Friday, July 14, 2017

The consequences of trading up

Two pro-West women, Lauren Southern and Brittany Pettibone, address the consequences of applied hypergamy.

40 comments:

Keyser Soze said...

Huh? Ok ladies, all true. I notice that neither of you have a ring on your finger? All talk, no walk? Worrying about your own behavior? Ahh, so many questions, so little time....

Paul Caster said...

Ya know I agree yada yada yada. Does anyone get the feeling however this is classic attention seeking behavior? Woman reads tea leaves men are getting sick of this shit. Check. Gotta figure out a way to entryism my way into this. Check. Parrot platitudes. Check. We've been here before...

Kentucky Headhunter said...

I can't believe anyone reading this blog gives a good god-damn about what women have to say about any non-trivial topic.

paworldandtimes said...

tits or gtfo < white babies or gtfo

SJ said...

Hilarious. The more attention thirsty guys give these two average looking women the more their own hypergamy is inflated. To quote dagbfm;

all is going to plan

the new virtue of the west
run by single white women
consist of
zero husbands
zero childrenz
zero sandwhiches made
zero mentions of the GRETA BOOKS FOR MENZ
zero mention of jesus moses plato galileo
zero diapers changed
zero dollars of patreon donations given to men
zero mentions of reforming the family courts
zero mentions of outlawing no-fault divorce
zero mentions of ending abortion
tons of mascara and lipstick and rougez

Aeoli Pera said...

Let's keep the autism to reasonable levels guys. (Haters gonna hate tho tbh fam.)

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Bunnky said...

The guys in this section seem extremely dissatisfied with listening to two women give advice, but as a woman listening to them, it is encouraging to hear other women talk about these things who aren't 60. There Are So very, very few role models for women, and I should know. I've been looking for so long, and it's just sluts, sloths, and fatsos.

Timmy3 said...

Okay, I thought it was a constructive video. Men will obviously think "Duh". Women will think "u'r kidding". Life goes on.

Stg58/Animal Mother said...

Is the video targeted towards women? Helping them break the cycle of hypergamy? If so, you should thank them. It's not advice for you. It's for women who would have been happy with Deltas/Betas in previous generations.

Nate73 said...

I'm sure this has been asked before, but why doesn't hypergamy apply to men? Shouldn't they be constantly dumping their girlfriend for a hotter, younger one, or is that called something else?

Stg58/Animal Mother said...

Men are not women.

Sean said...

Two women communicating to other women using a feminine style of communications. It's not at all surprising that I'm relatively disinterested in listening for longer than a few minutes. Of what I heard, the message is good, and I hope it reaches people and makes a difference. The one point which may have been contained in the part I didn't listen to, and is sorely needed, is that young ladies need to examine their own behavior. Looking for Mr Right is no good if you are Miss Wrong.

Don't "Marry your best friend." Be your husband's best possible wife.

Out of Nod said...

"Likewise, teach the older women to be reverent in the way they live, not to be slanderers or addicted to much wine, but to teach what is good. Then they can urge the younger women to love their husbands and children, to be self-controlled and pure, to be busy at home, to be kind, and to be subject to their husbands, so that no one will malign the word of God." - Titus 2:3-5

This is good! Keep it up!

Timmy3 said...

"Shouldn't they be constantly dumping their girlfriend for a hotter, younger one, or is that called something else?"

It's called divorce. More eligible men end up on the dating market after their wives dump them. Men are more likely to marry again. This is speaking from my own experience.

Oddly, women while alone feel liberated. They have no regrets. So no one should feel sorry for them.

dc.sunsets said...

Everything you do becomes a permanent part of you. Every act embeds memories. Every moment spent doing one thing can never be used again.

Life isn't Pretty Woman.

Every action has consequences.

From these premises an intelligent man or woman can reason through to a set of behaviors that keep open the door to a happy life, well-lived.

Of course, doing so today makes you a poor fit for this social cesspool.

dc.sunsets said...

Girls usually need leaders to follow. If these young women are part of the vanguard replacing the certifiably, clinically insane and/or bull dyke "leaders" of 20th century feminism, more power to them.

Every trend change is accompanied by signposts.

Stg58/Animal Mother said...

This kind of advice is meaningless to women if it doesn't arrive in the right vessel. Ugly or old women wonf have the same effect as attractive women in delivering this kind of guidance.

The delivery vehicle is important.

Days of Broken Arrows said...

I tried watching videos of these two, as well as the one who calls herself Blonde In The Belly Of The Beast. Nice to look at, but dull as heck. Sounded to me like they'd watched old videos by Roosh and Captain Capitalism and just recycled the talking points -- and did it in a way that had as little personality as possible.

Michael Maier said...

Yeah, it still blows my mind that women in REAL LIFE think PRETTY WOMAN is a romantic story.

I told an old GF "Yeah, but YOU'D HAVE TO BE A WHORE FIRST!"

I really have to wonder if she truly saw anything wrong with being one.

Cub Scout said...

Lotta people here saying that although boring, its good for women to have female leaders like these. Maybe. But women are like Men in that they prefer to have *Male* leaders, partly cause Men are smarter and more competent.

Its good that these girls are sending a better message than the typical feminist cesspit type of "advice" but tbh, compared to people like Heartise, Rollo, Vox Day, this vid is just alot of dull platitudes and vague statements with occasional red pill truth added in.

'Marry your best friend' sounds nice, but women don't fancy Men they see as friends. 'Develop the same qualities you want to see in the other person' also sounds nice but Men and women are so different and want such different things from each other that this could easily be interpreted as 'be a strong independent women cause you want a strong independent Man' Be complimentary is sounder advice.

As I said, this is miles better than some feminist tripe, but this kinda wishy washy relationship wisdom is hard to take from women who are themselves presumably still single and certainly unmarried and childless. Perhaps they practice what they preach, but I doubt it.

Kettle said...

OT

Have fun with this. Trump asserting himself over Macron.
https://youtu.be/1DwijJfVbBg

dc.sunsets said...

I told an old GF "Yeah, but YOU'D HAVE TO BE A WHORE FIRST!"

I really have to wonder if she truly saw anything wrong with being one.


Hookup culture makes women worse than whores. At least a prostitute gets paid.

A person has an empty reservoir for memories of intimate moments. Once filled with casual sex, what room is there for marital devotion?

Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club said...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDOgQf2XcAIBmDo.jpg

S. Misanthrope said...

I was skeptical going into the video for the aforementioned "where your white babies at?" reasons, but I think they did a solid job overall. The marry your best friend advice is retarded, though. From the outset of my relationship with my husband, I knew that if we weren't romantically involved, I probably wouldn't even be good friends with him let alone best friends. Not because we don't share values (we obviously do), but it's just not the same type of relationship. Almost 15 years later, we're more in love than ever while many friends, even "best" friends, have fallen away.

Thanks, J. said...
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VFM #7634 said...

"The marry your best friend advice is retarded, though."

@S. Misanthrope
What I suspect they're trying to say, and not doing it correctly, is: marry someone you know well and have known a while.

In other words, marry in a K-selective way, rather than an r-selective way where you jump on a sexy (often brown) cad and marry (or start sleeping with) him after knowing him for three weeks. Of course, the r-selective way is how you become a single mom with four kids from three fathers.

Fundamentally, I guess the two girls in the video are trying to push "more K-selection, less r-selection". The runaway hypergamy they're decrying is pure r-selection.

S. Misanthrope said...

@VFM #7634
In fairness to Brit, she was quoting advice from someone else, and I don't doubt that she received that advice from an old, successful, married couple. I've gotten it, too, but it usually comes from the type of people who claim to have 200 close friends. They're just highly agreeable basic people without particularly strong values beyond sort of bland, generic things. Not bad people but not the kind of people I care to take advice from.

How's that for psychologizing?

Kona Commuter said...

Just when you think they couldn't get any lower. Real Jerry Springer stuff

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4684890/Mother-banished-husband-sofa-dead.html

Jourdan said...

I just sat through that whole damn video and they didn't even get naked.

manuel hernandez said...

@dc sunsets

"Hookup culture makes women worse than whores. At least a prostitute gets paid."

And for better or worse, at least prostitutes, escorts, and strippers actually give a sort of "social service", namely sexual release. And they don't try to talk to you.

And Jourdan, exactly my feeling. If a girl on video isn't, at minimum, modeling the bikinis she, or rather, daddy or boyfriend, bought, I don't care. That's why I couldn't care less for the chicks from Fox News. Still enjoy watching the occasional hot Latina weather girl though.

Bob Loblaw said...

Yeah, it still blows my mind that women in REAL LIFE think PRETTY WOMAN is a romantic story.

I told an old GF "Yeah, but YOU'D HAVE TO BE A WHORE FIRST!"


Well, yeah. That's what makes it romantic for women. It's a fantasy about a woman who goes from the very lowest social status to the very highest.

Mordakei Silberreich said...

To the negative commenters, while there are occasions in which it is a appropriate to do so, like probably never, don't punch to the right. And quit bitching against women who aren't wymynz. We need more women to tell other women not to be idiots and to themselves not be idiot.

Lucas Evans said...

"Do as I say, not as I do"

Both these women are career-grrls, who do a lot of travelling and have a lot of guy friends. Neither is married or has any children. Nothing but red flags here, these are not women anyone should be listening to.

Useless, random thots wasting their most fertile years riding the cock-carousel and making mountains of shekels off beta thirst. Nothing more.

My Dead Gramps said...

Whenever butthurt flares up in the comments I have to remind myself the majority of TRPers are gammas in remission.

If someone is useful, let them be useful. No different from the Alt-Reich and Christians who envy Milo for taking the fight to the enemy.

Cary said...

People, chill out a little. These are allies. I would characterize both Brittany and Lauren as alt-light but moving rightward.

As a father raising a daughter I appreciate that there are young women on the right talking about western values. I believe Blonde (mentioned in comments), and Tara McCarthy are both engaged. I've never heard Lauren talk about a man in her life, but she has done a video and university talk on traditional values. She has debunked the lies of feminism, promoted the benefits of chastity, and the reality of the wall and time frame to have children.

And while some of the advice in this video, e.g. marry your best friend, is more cliched conservatism than deep insight, I have seen both make thoughtful and insightful comments at times. Lauren's book was surprisingly good and much more alt-right friendly than I expected.

Michael Maier said...

Bob Loblaw said...
Yeah, it still blows my mind that women in REAL LIFE think PRETTY WOMAN is a romantic story.
I told an old GF "Yeah, but YOU'D HAVE TO BE A WHORE FIRST!"

Well, yeah. That's what makes it romantic for women. It's a fantasy about a woman who goes from the very lowest social status to the very highest.


....so it's just like KINGSMEN for chicks...

Stg58/Animal Mother said...

Quit your bitching, sperg people. Go watch some Star Trek or something.

Harambe said...

Calling these two chicks "average" is the male gamma equivalent of women "holding out for Mr Better-Than-You".

Stephen Murray said...

A bit too much MGTOW sperging here

These 2 ladies are young (22ish each) and cannot be expected to understand everything in the world of men and women yet. They are also women, and will never really see things the way men do, and as their nature dictates, they will always be hyperganous.

Self knowledge is the cure for all things, and it is nice to see the first glimmerings of it in the female population. Lauren and Brittany are 2 sd to the right of the political mean, and it is a very good sign indeed.

But some folk call them sell outs because they aren't as red pilled as a 26 year old gamma male. Cheer up lads, the push back is in full bloom and young chicks on the right would have been inconceivable 5 years ago

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