Saturday, May 24, 2014

Blue Pill Bodycount

In which we see how the lack of Game can prove deadly to young men and women alike in an environment of unrestricted female sexuality:
'I'm 22 years old and I'm still a virgin. I've never even kissed a girl,' he says in the video'. College is the time when everyone experiences those things such as sex and fun and pleasure. But in those years I've had to rot in loneliness. It's not fair. You girls have never been attracted to me. I don't know why you girls aren't attracted to me. But I will punish you all for it,' he says in the video, which runs to almost seven minutes.

He repeatedly promises to 'punish' women and lays out his plan for 'retribution.'

'I'm going to enter the hottest sorority house of UCSB and I will slaughter every single spoilt, stuck-up, blonde s**t that I see inside there. All those girls that I've desired so much, they would've all rejected me and looked down on me as an inferior man if I ever made a sexual advance towards them,' he says.

'I'll take great pleasure in slaughtering all of you. You will finally see that I am, in truth, the superior one. The true alpha male,' he laughs like a maniacal movie villain. 'Yes... After I have annihilated every single girl in the sorority house I will take to the streets of Isla Vista and slay every single person I see there. All those popular kids who live such lives of hedonistic pleasure...'

Rodger's Twitter account has only two tweets, posted on April 19 and 20.

'Why are girls sexually attracted to obnoxious, brutish men instead of sophisticated gentlemen such as myself?
The rage of the Omega is boundless. The young man wasn't bad-looking. He was obviously well-off. He drove a nice black BMW. And yet, his anti-Game was so bad that he made it to 22 without ever so much as kissing a girl. No wonder he was murderously furious with women.

There are two clues to his problem. The first is that he considered himself a "sophisticated gentleman" at 22. Girls in their teens and early 20's aren't attracted to sophisticated gentlemen who treat them well. They are attracted to jerks who treat them indifferently, and the more arrogant the jerk, the better. The second is the fact that he was a literal "PUAhater" who was opposed to the androsphere and everything it stands for.

Taken together, this indicates that Rodgers was an omega male who simply couldn't accept female nature for what it is. He refused to take the red pill, and the blue pill bodycount wound up at seven.

94 comments:

vashine said...

"Game" is the very first word that came to mind when I opened the link to the article.

Imagine the number of brain aneurysms in liberals across California if they were to even consider that a healthy and fact-based disrespect (non-pedestalization) of women combined with an adolescence full of manly, violent, confidence-building activities (sports, rifle and handgun training, hunting, wrestling, martial arts), with guidance and oversight from older males, is actually exactly what was needed to avoid this outcome.

Their brains would be exploding and they'd be dropping like flies in the middle of the street. Chai lattes in hand, spilling all over the sidewalks, their fair trade clothing line, and on their broken Macbooks. The population in Santa Barbara would be cut by 70% in a matter of minutes.

Instead I can already hear, a continent away, the sentimental, emotive cry of "guns!"

Dexter said...

Rodger is thought to be the son of Peter Rodger, assistant director of the Hollywood film franchise The Hunger Games.

No wonder he wanted to kill himself - the "son of an assistant director"!

Sienna Schwartz said the shooter approached her and said, 'Hey what up?' and then began shooting at her as she walked away. The distressed girl said she initially thought the gun the shooter flashed at her was an airsoft gun but realized it was real when three or four bullets buzzed past her ears.

Not just a loser with women but also a bad shot.

Rodger was a website forum called PUAHate.com, which describes itself as the 'Anti-Pickup-Artist Movement' and aims to reveal 'the scams, deception, and misleading marketing techniques used by dating gurus and the seduction community to deceive men and profit from them.'

Translation: I tried all the PUA techniques but couldn't make them work and now I am REALLY, REALLY angry and frustrated.



Bob Wallace said...

He felt humiliated so sought revenge. It's right in the beginning of the Bible - Cain murders Abel.

He was also grandiose, which always covers up weakness. You know - Hubris? And Hubris is followed by Nemesis.

cailcorishev said...

This is also an extreme example of why women instinctively distrust "nice guys": they think the niceness is probably an act he's putting on to hide something. Not necessarily murderous rage, but maybe anger, fear, rudeness, boringness, whatever.

Of course, that brings up the (seeming) paradox: a woman is usually more attracted to the man who's openly rude to her than to the nice guy who might be rude to her someday.

vashine said...

It was his lack of disrespect for women that made him a mass murderer of women, that drove him to go on a killing spree. It was his over-valuation of women, his delusional pedestalizing of them as a source of happiness, beauty, and success, that drove him to hate them. And murder them.

The assholes do not go on killing sprees. They are too busy getting laid, going out on dates, raising families. They are too busy being respected and chased by women. Case closed.

This Omega sought blood vengeance to assuage his frustration and seething anger.

cailcorishev said...

Sienna Schwartz said the shooter approached her and said, 'Hey what up?' and then began shooting at her as she walked away. The distressed girl said

"Distressed"? My coffee table is "distressed." I think being shot at deserves a bit more emphatic a term. Maybe the writer didn't want to use words too strong until he made sure the shooter wasn't part of a protected group.

Krul said...

My God, that's terrible.

I thought the perp looked and sounded gay in the video. Deeply repressed homosexual, maybe. I wonder if he was on anti-depressants.

cailcorishev said...

No wonder he wanted to kill himself - the "son of an assistant director"!

And yet, dropping that fact into conversations should have gotten him laid like tile with the kind of 19-year-old aspiring actresses who hang around L.A. hoping to be spotted by the casting director for a second-tier reality TV show. He probably told himself he was too much of a "sophisticated gentleman" to go that route -- so he shot a bunch of women instead.

Laguna Beach Fogey said...

What a nutcase.

To all those opposed to PUAs and the Manosphere, this is why men need Game.

Weouro said...

It doesn't make sense. He could easily have gotten laid. I wonder if he felt like a loser not respected among men and women were a symbol of that, so he slaughtered the symbol. Because someone like that could have gotten laid if that was what he really wanted.

Kalushkin said...

@Weouro: I know, does not compute. He had all the tools, just needed to learn how to use them. He was a good looking kid, with a nice car, a Daddy willing to bankroll a good spending account. Partial fame or access to fame, with all the trimmings of the red carpet and Hollywood celebrity interactions (fame or access to it, is the greatest aphrodisiac).

Why go out and shoot people and yourself? Tragic for all involved.

Still young, could have improved his situation. There has to be more that we are still to find out.

Krul said...

Weouro - "It doesn't make sense. He could easily have gotten laid."

I agree, he could have. IF he were really attracted to women. My guess is that he was a closeted homosexual who despised himself for not being normal, and took out his hatred on the people who represented "normal" to him.

Blaximus said...

....Maybe the writer didn't want to use words too strong until he made sure the shooter wasn't part of a protected group.

Oookkaaayyy.

The shooter has reasons for be a homicidal maniac, and I am completely non plussed by them. What does interest me, is the odd ability of white males, especially young white males, to go on murderous rampages for being/feeling slighted or upset.

We can attribute this particular instance to a " Blue Pill Rage " or an " Omega " guy, or whatever, but there is a consistant historical theme of white males mass murdering people without very much provocation.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/mass-shootings-map?page=2

Why is it that people from seemingly normal backgrounds decide to go out and wipeout large numbers of people because they feel slighted? And what's up with the mental health angle?

But the real head scratcher ( .. not really ) is why don't these actions put a stigma on white males? Much like the colorado shooter, this incident will fade by the end of next month without so much as a ripple remaining. We had a white dude go into a SCHOOL and slaughter children for crying out loud, and today it's like it pretty much never happened. We can hardly make it 12 months between mass shootings.

Why aren't entire groups of white people being labeled as dangerous mass murdering thugs because of the actions of these individuals?

Maybe it's because the shooters had mental issues. Yeah, some did. But that is a really lame way to excuse the behavior.

Maybe it's genetic. Maybe just being white makes you prone to killing at the slightest provocation. Maybe whiteness is genetically linked to killing mostly innocent people. Maybe someone should do a study on it. How about some of the HBD crowd search for a study on why this is happening. Lord knows that they put enough time and energy into discussing and showing " studies " on why minorities commit crimes. Somebody needs to study this.

I'm not a fan of murderers and criminals. Not by a country mile. Yet I have to see, consistantly, minorities - mostly black -being painted with a huge, wide brush of criminality. What, mass murder by white males doesn't count?

Even when white men in the business and finance world are caught red-handed in acts of criminality, virtually nothing is said or done. Why is that? If you crash the U.S. economy ( as sick and fake as the economy actually is...fiat currency and all ) , why aren't people going to prison in droves?

This kind of f@ckery isn't about guns, or the 2nd amendment. It's about a mindset and a sick culture that's getting sicker by the day. Mentally weak men of every color are engaging in murder, criminality and theft, and amazingly low moral standards on a massive scale.

In reality, non of this has do to with genes or genetics. That is just a feel-good-about-myself bullsh!t smokescreen. It's our reaction to horrible sh!t that happens that is part of the problem.

Our culture is driving people insane, whether it's the evil feminism, or classism, or racism, or some molotov cocktail combination of everything combined.

Men allowed this to happen. It will be men who can fix these problems. But it will never happen as long as " we " have a hard time identifying ALL of the problems in a non-biased way.

I dunno..... I don't hold out much hope for that happening.

Peace.





Doorstop said...

Social media is already blowing-up about the evils of misogyny and I saw one comment saying the MRA's are resorting to terrorism. Am picturing that Sean Bean/GoT "Brace yourselves..." meme- Brace yourselves for the onslaught of "nice guys really aren't" projections that are coming. With lots of the colorful words to describe nice guys like "dickless," "f*cktard," and loser/creeper. Because leftists tell us that everyone, and especially the mentally ill, deserve understanding and respect. And because they'd never stereotype the living based on a now-deceased outlier...

Am also also seeing lots of pontificating about how "no one is entitled to anything" and how a guy who seemed nice butsuddenly snaps and goes on a rampage really couldn't have been a nice guy. I definitely agree. Wonder if they'd agree that women also aren't entitled to anything, and certainly not pedestalization, despite all the comments I hear about how they "deserve" this or that, including a man who "will go to the edges of the earth" for them. Let's also agree that a woman who suddenly flips and blows up her marriage really couldn't have been a good wife or a good mother.

badgerhut said...

"Social media is already blowing-up about the evils of misogyny"

What's interesting here is that the man's misogyny was clearly borne of the opposite - he loved women too much, idealized them and held preposterous ideas about female nobility and behavior. His disillusionment is what led to his hatred, not some "social conditioning" or PUA lessons or whatever.

Now we can sit back and observe the MSM-PuffHo-Slate-Salon logical response: dude has no skill with women, and actively degrades the idea of getting better with women...so the people to blame for this are folks who teach men how to be better with women.

cailcorishev said...

It doesn't make sense. He could easily have gotten laid.

It doesn't make sense until you understand what women actually want and how that's the complete opposite of what blue-pill boys think. I wasn't a virgin as long as this guy, but I was a lot longer than I wanted to be, and I didn't have to be. In hindsight I can see times when girls were practically throwing themselves at me, and plenty more times when I could have had one if I'd known just a few small bits of Game (and a BMW, sheesh). But I was too caught up in being a respectful, "sophisticated gentleman," thus driving them away like garlic on vampires.

A firmly blue-pill kid doesn't just want to get laid -- if that were his only goal, he'd visit a hooker. He wants the whole package, to sweep the princess off her feet with his romantic prowess. But every time he tries to do that -- by buying her flowers, writing her a poem, doing her favors, and telling her how much he respects her -- it fails and she goes back to her jerk boyfriend, and he really, really has no idea why. Either there's something wrong with him that no one will tell him about, or the universe just hates him. If he's a certain kind of guy, he starts hating it back.

Blaximus, it's obvious from the kid's picture that he's not a member of your protected group. So I wasn't talking about you, but it's interesting that you felt the need to defend your group so strongly. Well done.

The Remnant said...
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The Remnant said...

Rodger was one of the losers in today's Darwinian sexual environment and lashed out. A society with rampant, unregulated sex will also have rampant, unregulated violence. That's NOT a justification, merely an observation. We destroyed marriage in any meaningful sense and left sexual matters to the law of the jungle, of which violence is a major component. You can't let the animal genie halfway out of the bottle.

In a healthy and sane society (i.e., patriarchy) with strong social taboos and laws enforcing the sanctity of marriage, Darwinian sexual struggle is greatly reduced and frees up male energy for more productive endeavors. If Rodger were born 100 years ago, he likely would have found a wife and become a useful member of society. As it is, we have more needless deaths and a needless loss of energy and creativity.

Bob said...

heh Blaximus, obvious trolling.

But I think there's a BIG difference in what this guy did and what some black (or sometimes white wannabe gangsta) dudes do when they go out and "pop a cap in some1s a$$ for disrespecting them".

One is engraved into the culture that they hang around with (and shown as a common link / theme within that culture), the other is a complete outlier, who is doing such acts not because they're part of a culture, but because he cannot fit in, and is rejected from one.

Can't see many messages of support for this guy, or encouragement to go out and do what he did. Yet in parts of the groups that some other violent arseholes hang around in, there is VERY much encouragement. Hence the common links / stereotyping.

White men as a whole, do not support this type of thing. Such actions are regarded as those of a failure.

2870b918-77c0-11e3-b9bd-000bcdcb8a73 said...

Blaximus does raise an interesting point: why are mass shooters disproportionately white? I think he's too quick to dismiss genes, however. This is purely a hypothesis, but I think it's possible that there's a form of mental illness that can make someone more prone to mass murder, that this illness has a genetic component, and that whites are more susceptible to it than other races, just as blacks are more prone to sickle-cell and Jews to Tay-Sachs. How this would have come about I have no idea, but sometimes sh*t just happens.

Cataline Sergius said...

Apparently he was a frequent poster on PUAhate.com. Link not provided. Usually that means that he probably went to a PUA camp and got nothing out of it. Which frankly, happens. Only fifteen percent of the students get anything out of it. Adverse Selection is the term Krauser uses.

A big part of it of course is they go into these classes...and try to stay plugged into the Matrix. Their egos won't let them abandon their old identity. They want to hang to every single aspect of their paradigm but still get laid like James Bond.

This kid clearly thought he was perfect as it was and he only wanted to learn the magic words that would make panties drop. But only on his terms as a classic Gamma Male or as he puts it as "the supreme gentleman."

Blaximus said...

Bob,

Not trolling at all.

You make my point in that you see a " BIG " difference in what this guy did vs. a " black " gangster. The whole pop a cap in someone's a$$ for disrespect is only sighted by those who don't know what they are talking about.

I would never, ever suggest that white males support mass murder.But if there are to be no excuses for the " gangsters " you so fondly point to, there are to be no excuses for anyone. That's what I am saying.

There is no difference. Murder is Murder.

....stay thirsty my friend.

Hey cailcorishev, what's up ( not followed by gunfire )?

Your comments are correct sir, except for the part about me of course. There is talk that the shooters family attempted to warn police because of that youtube vid the killer had posted before going full metal jacket. The cops even supposedly interviewed him and found him to sweet and downright delightful -

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/05/24/shooting-california-santa-barbara/9532405/

This is a tragic clusterf@ck all the way around. Our young men are in a world of trouble. The Remnant's comments above point to major factors that are at play here.



Sambuca Ford said...

Immediately thought "Game" when i saw this story, too. What was his upbringing i wonder? Heavily feminized? His means seemed appropriate to draw deep from the Hollywood well. But you don't play Game on paper.

Weouro said...

Cail,
That's still just a longer way of saying that if he could have gotten laid, he wouldn't have killed anyone. "If he could have let go of his sentimentality, then he could have gotten a girl and wouldn't have killed." OK, but what causes extreme sentimentality about women then, since that's the actual issue? Probably fear of men and a desire to use women as a safety blanket.

Sambuca Ford said...

Immediately thought "Game" when i saw this story, too. What was his upbringing i wonder? Heavily feminized? His means seemed appropriate to draw deep from the Hollywood well. But you don't play Game on paper.

Doorstop said...

@ Blaximus

Non-hispanic Whites are about 63% of the population of the U.S., so one could expect to see them commit 63% of mass shootings. Blacks are about 13% of the population. So accounting for nothing else expect raw numbers, we should expect to see whites commit about 5x as many mass shootings as blacks do, and see blacks only commit about 20% as many drive-by shootings as whites do. Which prediction is closer to reality?

Johnny Caustic said...

I thought the perp looked and sounded gay in the video. Deeply repressed homosexual, maybe.

No. That's just how gammas act and sound.

(I do agree with you that he was probably taking antidepressants.)

I couldn't watch that video without laughing. I believe his words were real and heartfelt, but his facial expressions and voice tone were so incongruent with what he was saying, I have difficulty sympathizing with him. He's trying to cover his vulnerability with a false layer of bravado and posturing, to comic effect.

I'm sure his defensive front is one of the first things women notice about him, and they recognize it instantly as a warning sign. I recognize this because...that's also how gammas act and sound.

Krul said...

Johnny Caustic - "I have difficulty sympathizing with him."

Sympathizing? He's a mass murderer, a psycho killer maniac. The fact that you even consider having the slightest bit of sympathy for him makes me question your grasp of the situation.

Johnny Caustic said...

Folks, in all likelihood most or all of the school shooters over the last several decades were taking SSRIs or other psychoactive pharmaceuticals that cause suicidal and homicidal ideation in a substantial minority of takers. And Rodger was probably no exception.

Now, you're probably not wrong to blame the blue pill as well. But the rash of school shootings is primarily caused by prescription drugs (a fact that the pharmaceutical industry spends a lot of money to keep out of the news). Outlaw the drugs, and the shootings will "mysteriously" come to a stop.

(See also David Healy's blog.)

Johnny Caustic said...

Sympathizing? He's a mass murderer, a psycho killer maniac. The fact that you even consider having the slightest bit of sympathy for him makes me question your grasp of the situation.

I was exactly like him once, except that I didn't have the guts to take that final step, though I sure as hell wanted to. I think I grasp his mind quite perfectly.

cailcorishev said...

Blaximus does raise an interesting point: why are mass shooters disproportionately white?

A kid like this is told (or thinks he's been told) that if he follows the rules, he'll get what he wants from life. Those rules involve being nice, not being too aggressive, following the script of college and degree, being a complete gentleman, turn the other cheek, step back and make way for those less advantaged, and so on. When he follows those rules all his life and ends up with the shaft, he feels betrayed to his core.

Minorities, girls, and slower kids aren't told what he was. They're told that, because they're disadvantaged, they have to get out there and fight for what they want from life. They're taught to demand what they want and use whatever talents they have to get it. If they end up with the shaft, they might not be happy about it, but at least it doesn't come as a complete surprise and a betrayal of everything they were taught.

That's my guess: these school shooters come from the only demographic that's fed this particular line of bullshit -- especially about women -- all their lives, so they're the only ones with the chance to react so strongly to it.

cailcorishev said...

But if there are to be no excuses for the " gangsters " you so fondly point to, there are to be no excuses for anyone.

Agreed. I don't think anyone here was making excuses for him, but that would be wrong. Maybe you're confusing the attempt to find reasons with making excuses. Those aren't the same thing. I can say that his upbringing, the school, the way girls treat boys like him, and a dozen other factors influenced him, and not be making excuses for him. There's no excuse; he's responsible for what he did.

76a86186-641e-11e3-a4c7-000bcdcb5194 said...

I've long maintained that for an attractive woman, returning men's smiles is a public service. Just to let men know they aren't invisible.

Blaximus said...

@Doorstop,

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know the numbers drill by heart already. Sheesh.

I will put it to you like this, and then I will leave it alone. Believe none of what you hear, and half of what you see. 50+ years I have roamed this earth, and I have yet to have seen a " drive by " shooting or it's aftermath. When I was younger... much younger... we used to marvel at how gangs on the west coast used to shoot each other in drive by shootings.

If the numbers are right, there would have been virtually no way that I could have escaped seeing or being involved in a drive by. When the prison system decided to spread the degenerate gang population all over the country, they brought their homicidal ways with them and spread it like a virus. Even with that, the trend is not as widespread as the " numbers " suggest.

.... but that won't move you. I needed the exercise for my fingers so, it's cool.

The numbers suggest that white, or as you say " non-hispanic " white males account for over 90% of mass shootings. Numbers man.... they don't tell the whole story. A sane man will go by numbers, but will also go by his life experiences.

That's how I used to bone prom queens and models. The numbers said "no". I said something else.

Peace.

brian said...

>> Either there's something wrong with him that no one will tell him about, or the universe just hates him. If he's a certain kind of guy, he starts hating it back.

Cail - that was me, but until I was in my 40s. Although I never made the jump to thinking I was entitled to kill people for it.

Am I angry that I was lied to my entire life? You bet. But I'm not going to kill people over it. I was raised better.

Part of the problem with this kid is I'll bet his parents never said "no" to him. And when the pretty girls said "no", it just totally blew his mind.

@Blaximus - Here's a potential alternate explanation - culturally, UMC people (of whatever race) aren't _allowed_ to use violence to solve their problems. So they bottle that hate and rage up, and eventually it pops. And we get a mass violence incident.

I don't know, and I don't care to look, but I'd wager a glass of Maker's that all but a very few of the mass shooters of the last 20-30 years have been anything but white UMC males.

brian said...

Crap - never go back to rewrite part of your sentence without a full re-read.

That last sentence should say "That all but a very few of the mass shooters of the last 20-30 years have been white UMC males."

Doorstop said...

@Blaximus

Neither myself nor anyone I knew has ever experienced a mass shooting, and I can only recall hearing about one or two drive-by shootings in my city. So I'm not worried about either. We did have an incident recently where an African-American customer whose credit card was declined felt "dissed" by the African immigrant behind the counter, went home and got a gun, and came back and blew him away. I knew one of the victim's co-workers and felt bad for him and his family, but such violence is so rare around here that it's not worth losing sleep over. The same goes for white mass shooters. Tornadoes scare me more.

Is that enough anecdotal speak for you?

Doom said...

I suppose some guys need to be jerks. And while I was, in a way, I really didn't lean into that. With 50 to 60 that I remember, some tops, some... not so much but what I favored anyway, it's not like I wasn't getting it, and when I wanted it. I suppose, as I suggested, some guys have to be jerks to get sex. It was so damned easy, and still could be... marriage maybe not, that's proving trickier, maybe impossible. But if I wanted leg, I'd have it tomorrow, with my choice of several women who have all but made it clear. Bleh.

The guy was just an idiot liberal idealist. Whether in economics or human relations, these people are clueless. They are only related by their hatred, and they are all murderous, just most would prefer the government to do the dirty work. Too bad the dumbass couldn't have just taken himself out, alone. My guess is he was a typical nonity, with no personality and no balls. At least he is dead and we don't have to hear 20 years of whining until he got a plum job at Harvard, where he goes on to become the head of NAMBLA or some shit. Good riddance. Just wish he had the balls to just accept that he was a failure, and his idealism was a failure, and take one for the team solo.

ray said...

The "lack of Game" caused this shooting?! LOL!


Wow you Gameboys are mad on the koolaid you made yourselves!


This is just another lost and angry male adrift after half-a-century of his nation demeaning, punishing, criminalizing, and destroying masculinity and fatherhood. 1. Sow. 2. Reap. Amerika has been in Reap mode for twenty years now, i remember writing to local papers in the nineties, telling them that these incidents would inevitably go down, and if they really wanted a feminst nation, then best triplelock all the doors. But everybody and their dotter wanted the gynogulag. So now you got it.


The only focus of this kid's life was Getting Laid. Hm, now, who is it exactly who has trumpeted that very message across the internet for the past five or six years? Why, that'd be the Gameboys and PUAs, who (after asserting falsely that they invented the manosphere) have attempted to convince these very boys that, yes indeed, all that matters in a man's life is That Notch Count Baby, and oh yeah here are my Special Secret Techniques (LOL!!!) with new cutesy made up names to help you achieve the ONLY goal in life worth pursuing: "Banging"


As i've pointed out many times to you and others, who is the target audience for the game hucksters? Teenage western boys, totally confused and enraged at their feminist nations, that very clearly alternate between ingnoring and hating them. So this kid bought into the Gameboy Rap that all that matters is Banging Hot Chicks (preferably in exotic countries so that acting like a scumbag can be made to seem cool to inexperienced homeboys).


This kid expected your impossible promises to be fulfilled. You chumps told him all he needed was Dread Game, baby, oh yeah DREAD DREAD DREAD, how cool is that to a teenage boy? A little Dread Game and the girls would be lining up.... except it's just another selfish lie. To be attractive to girls, all the kid needed to do was be patient, improve, and WAIT TO GROW up into manhood... but that doesn't sell books or tapes or conference appearances... doesn't draw attention to ME ME ME. No, the Gameboys instead guarantee that you don't have wait or work to become a man -- and to thus become attractive to females -- no indeed, all you need is GAME. So the kid took you at your word, and found that your Word, like your cult, is bullshit. At that point, he'd been betrayed TWICE. Once by his feminist nation, and then again by fellow brothers who, instead of helping him with mature adivce, were busy bleating out the verses of their New Religion.


So now our Feminist Media and Gubbermint are able to equate this shooting with YOUR stupid advocacies of Dread Game and all the rest of your narcissistic cult. And now that you've successfully equated the (desperately needed) men's movement with your PUA nonsense, Medea has a clear path to connect this enraged kid with the "men's movement." Nice going. Wonderfully strategized. So many SuperIntelligences, so little planet. Your nasty cult has managed to cut the legs out from under the tremendous efforts of the few antifeminist men and women who've labored over the past 20 years against what's now a global matriarchy. While the GameBoys have drawn attention away from the needs of boys and men, and onto THEMSELVES . . . so It's All Good.


Your conclusion that this boy 'needed Game' is the flipside of the gynarchy insisting that 'more feminism' will solve the world's problems. Well done.

Tommy Hass said...

"This is also an extreme example of why women instinctively distrust "nice guys""

Oh stop. I hate it when clever fellas put the nice guys in quotation marks.

Do you actually believe the bullshit that hamsters say about this? They don't dislike nice guys because they aren't nice, they say that because they have the self awareness of a lower order animal.

eclecticintellectic said...

Hey everyone. I've never posted on here before, but I've been following VP since about 2009, and this site blog since maybe 2011. Not sure how much I'll be commenting here or at VP since I generally don't manage time well, but this news hits close to home, so I thought I'd weigh in. I lived in the town where it took place, 9-8 years ago, and still visit there every once in a while. I was involved with a small church that ministered to the college kids there. So my heart goes out to everyone affected by this tragedy. The guy apparently had Asperger's, and I bet he was lacking much of a relationship with his father. He was seeing multiple therapists, so it's possible he was on antidepressants too. The video he posted is just demonic, but in some ways, I can relate to some of his frustration. I think he really could have benefited from Game (parroting VD here, heh). I bet he totally could've gotten a girlfriend if he'd tried harder and stopped believing lies about himself. He needed someone to counsel him on how to go about things and believe in himself. It's really sad that no one was there to help him in the way that he needed.

cailcorishev said...

Am I angry that I was lied to my entire life? You bet. But I'm not going to kill people over it. I was raised better.

Brian, I figure when something is as rare as a mass killer, a lot of different factors have to come together for it to happen. A certain mental makeup (not crazy enough to get locked up or watched closely, but maybe still off somehow), a certain environment and external influences, certain occurrences and interactions with others -- heck, maybe even a certain diet -- all adding up to just the perfect storm to set him off. (And Johnny has a point that mood-altering medications may be the cherry on top.)

Most people whose lives suck never get close to that point, and even those who do may be turned aside by one little thing. Had a girl kissed this guy, maybe he wouldn't have done this. Again, that isn't blaming the girls who didn't or excusing him; it's just saying that it must take a whole lot of things going wrong to lead to this, or we'd see a lot more of it.

brian said...

Cail - I couldn't agree more. Just from what info is available now, we can see that he FOUND the Red Pill, but spit it out.

I think ultimately he could not reconcile the revealed truth with the feminist teachings that formed him, and he broke. If he was a high-functioning aspie, that makes a kind of sense. I know people who have children on varying parts of the autism spectrum, and the common thing for these kids is once a thought gets locked in their heads, it becomes a kind of law, and takes a lot of patient and delicate work to dislodge.

ajw308 said...

If Rodger were born 100 years ago, he likely would have found a wife and become a useful member of society.
Comparing apples and oranges, fantasy and reality. 100 years ago, he'd have had his share of playground fights and masculine role models. He was most likely surrounded, real life and media, by the gamma/homo amalgams called metrosexuals. As for your statement about when he was born, would you feel an better if he was born in 1920's Germany and died in Stalingrad? We can't really do anything about the past except learn from it.

D. Lane said...

I think he really could have benefited from Game

I doubt game would have helped him much. As Vox alluded to in the post, the kid appears to have been in clear denial of reality. Even the highest level of game awareness won't help someone who refuses to accept the state of the playing field. Had he employed game as prescribed by most of the androsphere, I suspect he'd have ultimately lost his marbles over N not being high enough or some "spoiled, blonde slut" breaking his heart.

He needed someone to counsel him on how to go about things and believe in himself. It's really sad that no one was there to help him in the way that he needed.

Exactly. From what I've gathered on the story, this is a case of a fragile kid who was spoon-fed by his parents and never taught about properly handling failure. This is made clear in the provided quotation, where he frames himself as the victim of an unjust system. Instead of asking himself what he had been doing wrong in his advances, he faults others for not giving him what he rightly deserves. Had his father or someone else squashed this pattern of reasoning in its infancy, his post-insanity bullet festival probably wouldn't have happened.

This is also further evidence of the toxicity of modern culture, which ironically promotes N as a symbol of status. I've never seen any inherent virtue in N≠0 beyond its suggested level of sexual competency. In the contemporary social scene, however, N is typically assigned more weight than a $100,000 sports car. This kid got suckered into trying to become a high-status member of that group and everyone paid the price for it.

Desiderius said...

It doesn't make sense until you understand what women actually want and how that's the complete opposite of what blue-pill boys think. I wasn't a virgin as long as this guy, but I was a lot longer than I wanted to be, and I didn't have to be. In hindsight I can see times when girls were practically throwing themselves at me, and plenty more times when I could have had one if I'd known just a few small bits of Game (and a BMW, sheesh). But I was too caught up in being a respectful, "sophisticated gentleman," thus driving them away like garlic on vampires.

"A firmly blue-pill kid doesn't just want to get laid -- if that were his only goal, he'd visit a hooker. He wants the whole package, to sweep the princess off her feet with his romantic prowess. But every time he tries to do that -- by buying her flowers, writing her a poem, doing her favors, and telling her how much he respects her -- it fails and she goes back to her jerk boyfriend, and he really, really has no idea why. Either there's something wrong with him that no one will tell him about, or the universe just hates him. If he's a certain kind of guy, he starts hating it back."

That's my guess: these school shooters come from the only demographic that's fed this particular line of bullshit -- especially about women -- all their lives, so they're the only ones with the chance to react so strongly to it."

Cail is absolutely nailing this. I was that guy.

Natural alpha castrated by his upbringing.

Blaximus said...

It's logical to believe that maybe all of this would have been avoided if this guy would've gotten attention from one of these girls he speaks of. I'm not excusing what he did in the least, but game, for lack of any better description, would have helped him. No way it couldn't.

I'm not talking about PUA stuff with the SMV, Neg, SS396 b.s., but actual old school Game that would have taught him that what he was experiencing was not at all uncommon and it wasn't really all about " him ".

As mentioned here before, he was driving a BMW. Now granted, in Calabasas (sp?) they might use beemers as taxis for all I know, but he had some things working in his favor. He needed help. Maybe a lot of help.

@Brian - you are on target, as is @ Cail. In one way this is complex, in another it's just a disturbed guy going off the deep end.

His folks knew this kid had serious problems. They tried to get law enforcement involved. But I can't help but wonder what role they played in all this, as far as how he was raised. A poster brought up aspbergers.... seems there was something powerfully wrong mentally and maybe that skewed his perception. Maybe he was just too weird to get women/girls. I dunno.

But what I do know is that PUA sites have zero blame in this mess. We gtta have someone to blame right? Couldn't have just been the shooters fault for reacting the way he did.

Bob said...

There's always something to blame. Usually it's "violent" video games etc.

The only solid link they've EVER found in these cases, is that the person has been mentally troubled, that's it. And it sounds like he certainly was.

Presuming more and more of these cases are now going unnocticed because, who ever helps the young, "nice" white boy, or notices him at all? People are too busy sucking up to alpha cads, or focused purely on the needs of women or "minorities".

They're fed all this bullshit and then closed away, left to wonder why the real world doesn't match their expectations. I've been there, but fortunately my mental state is solid enough to never dream of harming anyone because of it.

eclecticintellectic said...

Good points, D. Lane.

Blaximus said...

@Bob,

You know something? I have often wondered how all of this attacking of white males is affecting the young white males in this country?

I'm serious. I know I'm a black man, but I'm not blind or deaf. I see and hear the relentless attacks on white maledom. And as a black man, trust me when I say that I understand what it's like to be relentlessly attacked.

But is this having an impact on the youth that is boiling over in horrible ways? We can all agree that shit is turned upside down for ( most ) men in America. The sights have been turned on white men for the past 20 years or more that I've noticed. That's a hell of a shift. As far as mental health is concerned, how detrimental can it be to be targeted from birth, even when you haven't done anything, personally, to anyone.

These young cats today, they are bombarded with LGBT.. or LBGT.. or BLT or whatever it is this year, and R$pe Culture madness, and being medicated in schools for being essentially a male. They are being force fed neck beards and skinny jeans and sports are ridiculed as some silly masculine nonsense.

So when everything around you is trying to extinguish you, and you " come of age "....wtf? What is logically supposed to happen? Nothing is straight forward. You're damned if you do, etc. etc. etc.

It must play into some of this, mental illness or not.

Joel said...

"Blaximus does raise an interesting point: why are mass shooters disproportionately white?"

No, he doesn't raise an interesting point, because mass shooters are not disproportionately white. According to the very same Mother Jones website referenced by Blaximus, 44 of the 67 mass shooters since 1982 have been white. That's 65%, which is right in line with the percentage of non-Hispanic whites in America. In other words, Blaximus is full of shit.

2870b918-77c0-11e3-b9bd-000bcdcb8a73 said...

Joel is correct. I had assumed Blaximus was right because I could only recall one mass shooting I'd ever heard about where the shooter wasn't white. I stand corrected.

Looking at the Mother Jones article I was quite surprised by the number of Asian shooters pictured. I didn't do a count, but it looks like that's the group which is over-represented.

vashine said...

Some here seem to believe and think Game is merely window dressing. It is not. It is a change in a man's fundamental views of women and himself in relation to women.

Those whom adopt Game in a real way, not in half-assed, sophomoric, or superficial way, will experience and live out these changes. It will change who they are.

Real and lasting change only occurs in one way: through acceptance of new, fundamental beliefs that replace older fundamental beliefs about the nature and mechanisms of some aspect of life. Truly adopting Game demands, one way or another, accepting fundamental truths about women, men, and the truths of relationships between the sexes that do not lead to mass murder.

Vox's and many others' point that Game would have prevented this outcome is predicated upon this deeper understanding of Game. Those who disagree do not understand Game. You might be able to read and understand its mechanics, but not the fundamentals upon which those mechanics are built. The fundamentals include a vastly different worldview than what Blue-pillers know, understand, feel, or can even imagine.

Whatever the reason, this troubled soul could not accept those fundamental truths and integrate them into his worldview, personality, character, nor how he interacted with others on a daily basis. Because if he had, he would have either been getting laid on occasion and/or would have realized that getting laid isn't all that important. Either way, no massacre out of frustration from not getting sex.

Blaximus said...

Joel, you are full of shit. 65 percent is a majority. 44 out of 67 is a majority. Maybe you are confused by the word "majority".

Blaximus said...

Joel, you are full of shit. 65 percent is a majority. 44 out of 67 is a majority. Maybe you are confused by the word "majority".

Michael Maier said...

Blaximus, stop being dense. You know what's being said.

In case you're math-challenged, 65% and 44/67 is nearly identical. The white majority is apparently doing the majority of the shootings... which makes perfect sense.

Desiderius said...

vashine,

"Truly adopting Game demands, one way or another, accepting fundamental truths about women, men, and the truths of relationships between the sexes that do not lead to mass murder."

That is true, but the adoption of game is a sufficient but not necessary condition for accepting the truths.

Game requires rejecting the pretty lies that castrated Rodger, and millions of young men like him. His psychosis was rare, his plight not. But the killer app is the rejection of the lies, the embracing of one's masculinity, the demand for femininity among those women one pursues.

That is what the young women who rejected Rodger were selecting for, and thus they rejected his emasculated soul that transparently needed their validation to merely live.

In a culture that has suppressed both the development of masculinity and the means to express it, game makes a decent patch. It is not masculinity itself.

Shimshon said...

@cailcorishev

"I wasn't a virgin as long as this guy, but I was a lot longer than I wanted to be, and I didn't have to be."

I was 21. Already on in years. Unlike this poor sap, but like you, I literally had women throw themselves at me. It scared the hell out of me at the time. I was in a prison of my own making. I was looking for "the one." Not the ten, or whatever number it was. I had massive selection bias and ignoring their interest only fanned the flames. Had I understood Game at the time...

One girl knocked some sense into me. She told me she was not the pure and virginal thing I thought she was, and that she "wasn't going to take no for answer."

Having grown up in SoCal surrounded by that level of wealth (but not of it), I can imagine some of the bitterness and disillusionment he must've felt, despite being the beneficiary of such a life.

Shimshon said...

I knew a genuine Omega in college. He wasn't bad looking. and also came from serious wealth. Completely hapless with women. He creeped out all the girls in our social circle.

LAZ said...

Blaximus: Whites may be a majority but, aren't represented "disproportionately" (your word)..

brian said...

Laz - statistics ain't everyone's bag. Besides, if you look at regular plain old murder, blacks ARE disproportionately represented.

And if you've been conditioned to believe that to be "normal", then whites achieving racial parity in some violent crime statistic is going to be the anomaly, not the other way around.

Mass murder and serial killing are two sides of the same damaged coin. Both are acting out some imagined "mission" against what their broken minds interpret as wrong.

Yohami said...

"It was his lack of disrespect for women that made him a mass murderer of women"

It was the disrespect FROM women plus too much respect from him

Unknown said...

Re this kind and what he did, I recognize myself at that age in him: lack of appropriate male role models, fucked up family, very blue-pill nice guy, lack of game, far above average IQ, shy, handsome according to other people. What spared me going his way was a constant trickle of pussy without me ever understanding how I got to bang some of those hotties.
Same as this guy I wasn't spared being treated like shit for just being nice, never understanding, always seeking fault in myself. Until I happened upon red-pill site about a year ago it never occurred to me that women treat men like crap for being nice and considerate and that they spread their legs for assholes. The second grave error this kind committed was to reject the facts which the PUA/redpill community has been digging out since decades.

As for the factoid that whites are disproportionately represented among perpetrators of mass-shooting incidents, there are two theories about this:
a) The perpetrators are victims of brainwashing employed by the spook-world to terrorize the population at large and smear a certain image unto a certain demography
b) White Europeans are the most K-selected group by large when compared to other demographies, what implies that white males have a very strong instinct of protecting their in-group (e.g. white females). Now, to see shitskins everywhere on a daily basis and to see white females copulating with shitskins is appropriate to eventually trigger a K-strategic response from somebody, despite whites having been submerged in a sea of propaganda and disinformation during the last 60+ years.

The kid should have learned game as his experience with women would have been far more positive, or, _IF_ he had homosexual tendencies he should have lived that out - far more healthy than shooting people up; the shitskins should eventually be segregated and sent back to whence they came because the experience with them, in almost every aspect, has been disproportionately negative.

Laguna Beach Fogey said...

Game denialism kills.

Bob Wallace said...

I have yet too see anyone point out this kid wasn't an Angry White Man. He wasn't even white. His mother was Asian, and he was short and scrawny, and was under treatment for Aspergers - whatever that is. Was he on murder/suicide psychiatric medication? Maybe. "Game"? Not in his case. The girls would have laughed at him, which they probably did anyway. Sometimes, for some things, there is no cure.

Jack Amok said...

Blaximus is right about the negative pressures on white people. Europeans have a very long history of significant violence. We've tried a whole series of different political systems (seriously, how many different fundamental political systems have Asians or Africans tried before running into Europeans?) to put a lid on our violence. Most work for a time, until the con artists figure out how to exploit it, then another spasm of violence. Our latest effort at controlling our violent natures was the idea of monogamous yeoman households where the average guy could be "king" of his own modest castle and where the comforts of civilized life outweighed the temptation to raise the black flag and get your Viking on.

Well, the promise of a chicken in every pot and a wife in every bed has gone by the wayside. You can start the countdown to the next spasm of violence.

B.J. said...

Here's the key phrase from the shooter's final video:

"All those girls that I've desired so much, they would have all rejected me and looked down on me as an inferior man if I ever made a sexual advance towards them."

Notice the wording? "...If I ever made a sexual advance..." He *never* made a move. Ever. That was his problem. If there's one thing I think all of us can agree on its that we need to do away with this stupid contradictory programming we instill in our children:

To girls we say: "If a boy likes you he will make a move."
To boys we say: "Never make a move unless a girl likes you!"

Desiderius said...

"Notice the wording? '...If I ever made a sexual advance...' He *never* made a move. Ever. That was his problem."

Good catch. He assumed the fail.

"If there's one thing I think all of us can agree on its that we need to do away with this stupid contradictory programming we instill in our children:

To girls we say: 'If a boy likes you he will make a move.'
To boys we say: 'Never make a move unless a girl likes you!'"

We, kimosabe? That programming comes from those who've found a very effective way to advantage their own genes over those of the suckers who buy it.

2870b918-77c0-11e3-b9bd-000bcdcb8a73 said...

"Game"? Not in his case. Sometimes, for some things, there is no cure.

This. The guy clearly had a seriously disordered personality, and had about as much chance of learning and applying Game as Jake Harper does of mastering tensor calculus.

Ever Light said...

Smh... I see these signs daily in many young men I see out in public. Some can/are willing to see the truth with just the right mentor who can show them the way.

This is beyond just saying this youth was "messed up"; there are no excuses for his or anyone's actions. I pray for the families of the victims and the perpetrator's family.

Although this happened unexpectedly; it may not have if he was grounded in reality here. He could have been helped and he's now in a recurring twist, serving as a form of inspiration for other outcast rejects of society who may follow his example.

Whenever we are and we find the opportunity, we need to reach out.

This young man is now where he will always be in eternity as well as the 3 people he killed. THAT is a (very) sobering reality beyond this "kid was just a loser".

As with us all who will pass on, we will either end up in Heaven or Hell depending if we've put our faith on Lord Jesus Christ to be forgiven of our sins and inherit the promised gift of eternal life.

This world is temporal and our actions will carry over to eternity.

Please, (God-willing), no other youth copies the actions of this young man.

Men here, we have to keep watch over these kinds of things than belittle the belittled. SOULS are at stake. Do not forget the eternal after this life.

In peace...

Remo said...

I've only been "red pill" for about 6 years now but I could have easily been this kid except for any number of distractions. It is surreal to see how it much sense it makes when you get the stupid notion out of your head that women are all sugar spice and everything nice. All you have to do is *not* label evil good, who'd have thought?

Put this kid on a plane six months ago to Thailand or wherever, let him see the real cost of poon, and problem solved.

Watching the comments on this on CNN is a complete joke. Blame "society" without actually correctly labeling what it is in society that instigated this, blame "guns" as if they get up on their own accord and start killing, blame everything and nothing at the same time to all but guarantee it happens again. Apes stacking boxes to get to the banana are quicker than this but they stubbornly refuse to lose their false presumption.

Remo said...

What's funny is that if he went to PRISON rather than killing himself after doing this he'd suddenly get tones of love letters and more play than any of the jocks he hated for "disrepectin" the object on his pedestal.

Dexter said...

Blaximus is statistically challenged, LOL.

Ever Light said...

@ Remo

I would say its rather "ironic". You definitely brought up the ironic twist that had the young man not killed himself and was put in prison he would get all those love letters of adoration he desperately believed he deserved just like what happened to the Aurora Colorado shooter and others...

Just goes to show how what happened could have had different outcomes. But reality done is reality.

Bob said...

It's bloody true though. There's really fucked up crims in prison that are there because they tortured or murdered their previous girlfriends. Some are visually "ugly" too, and get an absolute shitton of love letters, and visits for sex from random women.

They're so fucked up heh.

macengr said...

In which the point is totally missed:
http://www.dailylife.com.au/news-and-views/dl-opinion/yesallwomen-twitters-powerful-reaction-to-the-santa-barbara-shootings-20140526-38xcc.html

Akulkis said...

"That's still just a longer way of saying that if he could have gotten laid, he wouldn't have killed anyone. "If he could have let go of his sentimentality, then he could have gotten a girl and wouldn't have killed." OK, but what causes extreme sentimentality about women then, since that's the actual issue? Probably fear of men and a desire to use women as a safety blanket."


Being lied to BY women about WHAT WOMEN REALLY WANT. It's just that simple.

Bob said...

LOL didn't take long:

"In Death, Girls (and Boys) Swoon Over Santa Barbara Mass Murderer"
http://www.infowars.com/in-death-girls-and-boys-swoon-over-santa-barbara-mass-murderer/

The Pinnacle of Irony indeed.

Whiskey said...

Mass shootings by Black males: Chrus Dorner, Omar Thornton, Colin Ferguson the Long Island Railway shooting, the one in City of Industry SCE and the in a Norcal quarry. Black males are far over represented in mass shootings. The media does not like to cover them bc the generally have a racial angle of Black guys killing Whites as was the case of Thornton and Ferguson. Oh firgot, DC snipers, both Black.

Whiskey said...

Oh I forgot the Colorado courthouse shooting, not Aurora btw, was also a Black male. To any one with open eyes, not surprising. Asian men the least violent stat wise inckusive of mass shoitings and Blacks the most. Sorry damn nook spelling.

Dystopic said...

The whole situation is quite sad, really. Unrestricted female sexuality is destructive and can break blue pills at any time. Most red pill folk have, prior to their conversion, been in the same situation as this guy, staring down the abyss and wondering what the hell went wrong. After all, you did everything they told you. Where he went wrong is easy to see: rather than swallow the distasteful truth about hypergamy, he retreated back into fantasyland.

In more restrictive times, this man would have been a semi-happy beta with a mediocre wife, loyal to him for his provider status. It might have been enough to avert tragedy.

Dexter said...

And never mind the mass shooting sprees, blacks are certainly over-represented in shootings of all kinds.

cailcorishev said...

Over on Vox Populi, Hardscrabble Farmer read the guy's manifesto and said he was pretty seriously messed up, way beyond the involuntary celibacy. So we probably shouldn't assume that Game or a little success with women would have made him "normal." But it probably is fair to think that one success with women -- or one spanking as a child (apparently he was spoiled to the extreme) or one punch in the face from someone bigger than him -- could have steered him away from this extremity. It makes you wonder how many other kids out there are being raised to be almost as bad as him, but just don't have quite the inborn personality flaws to take it that far.

Markku said...

Why aren't entire groups of white people being labeled as dangerous mass murdering thugs because of the actions of these individuals?

Oh! Oh! I know this one!

Pick me! Pick me!

*ahem*

White privilege, right?

Yes, yes, thank you, you are a most kind audience. Ok, that's enough applause. Thank you, thank you...

Tommy Hass said...

Btw, I believe Gamma is also an adequate label. "I am a sophisticated gentleman, women must be flawed if they are attracted to those brutes."

He was a deluded Gamma/Omega hybrid. Sad.

JCclimber said...

my first thought reading about this on Drudge this morning was that this sad sick loser needed game. Not to get laid, but because he needed that red-pill awareness of the true nature of women.

He also thought he was entitled to the hottest of the hot. And considering his dad was involved in Hollywood, he was probably nursed on liberal crap about empowered women his entire life. Such as Hunger Games, blue-pill feminist twaddle.

I hold his father accountable for this tragedy.

JCclimber said...

Also, what kind of loser spends considerable time planning a murder spree, casing the joint he's going to hit first (or second after his roommates), and is then stymied by a locked front door?

Loser. Loser. Loser cubed.

vashine said...

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3201913/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1

The father seems to be not that successful of a loser himself. Clearly he had little Game and hitched up with a sub-par Asian woman, made two kids, then later realized he could trade up and did so. His documentary looks highly predictable and puke-worthy. Bruno likely did more to advanced peace in the Middle East than this guy. It felt to me more like a sentimental "look at me traveling the world and asking deep questions about humanity" selfie than anything serious. Note his statement near the end... "I just think the key to life is very simple and that man just complicates it." Holy Shit. That's all you have to say? That is what you travelled to 23 countries in order to learn? Wow. You didn't learn much.

And he didn't teach his son much either. Clearly this kid was the genetic offspring of another gamma/omega who likely at some point realized he could do better and ditched the wife and kids. Who knows the real story behind the divorce. How many liberal news broadcasters will mention divorce as a possible factor in all of this? Slim to none.

The white male bagging a average-looking asian woman is the easiest game out there. The. Easiest. You, as a white male, can have negative game and bag yourself a sub-par asian woman, it is that easy. Many Asian women immediately see larger, taller, hairier white males as more masculine, not to mention wealthier and more worldly. It's even easier if she has any desire to immigrate to the Anglosphere or Europe. This guy not only started banging one, but married her. And he made a frou-frou, relativist documentary that starred, uh, himself.

Good job, certainly you solved the whole religion issue, made a nice commercial for yourself, and in the meantime your son became a killer. Bravo.

vashine said...

And will Blaximus admit that the kid is not only half-Asian, but that no person in their right mind would look at the kid and assume he was full-on "white"? At the very least you look at him and know he's got something 'exotic' and non-Northern European in him. That much is obvious just from a photo.

Or do all "whites", even when they're half-Asian, look the same to Blaximus?

Blaximus said...

@vashine

Nah, no group all look the same to me. I'm not hung up on purity. I'm too old and wise for that - I've learned better.

But....

The kid was raised in an extremely white community, with wealth. I've met people who were of another race than white, who were raised in white areas, and many- dare I say most, identify...self identify more as white than their race.

The kid had a white dad. I think, personally, that he has a right to identify with the race of his dad if he so chose. Now, what everyone else thinks of this is their own personal thing. Not many in America are " pure ". Only recently arrived folk can truly wave the PURE banner. I find that a bit narcissistic in itself, but something like that seems to make people feeeelll good. " I'm broke, I'm weak, I'm of bad charactrer, I can't get laid... but by God, I'm pure blooded German ( or whatever )".

I ain't even mad at that mode of thinking. It speaks plainly for itself.

But for your edification, I will admit that the kid was not " full on white ". It's true.

I will however dismiss the charge of him having something " exotic " ... I personally find nothing exotic about him, but that's because I was raised in an area populated by many asian people, along with many other kinds of people.

Irish, Italians and Jewish individuals weren't always classified as white in this country. Anyone who deems their racial make-up to be the pinnacle of their existence, well, more power to them. But allowing society to define and label you may be a recipe for mental disaster.


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