Tuesday, October 29, 2013

"Rape" is often post-sex regret

It appears the feminist meme of "women never lie about rape" has been put to rest for good:
A young mother has been jailed for making two false rape claims within hours of drunkenly sleeping with a friend’s partner. Ashleigh Loder, 25, wasted at least 100 hours of police time by inventing the assaults. She first told officers she had been attacked by two strangers in an alley before changing her story to say a man she knew had forced her to have sex in her home.

However the friend she had accused was able to prove his innocence because he had filmed the sexual encounter on his mobile phone.

The footage showed Loder, a mother-of-two from Bideford, Devon, was a willing and active sexual participant. She was drunk on vodka and invented her story because the partner of the man with whom she’d had sex was a friend. She feared the consequences of the other woman finding out what they had done.
This incident underlines what I noted last week, which is that most reported rape is nothing more than post-sex regret. It doesn't matter if the encounter is described "date rape" or "acquaintance rape" or "marital rape" or "near rape", if there is an adjective before the noun, it transforms the noun. Just as "social justice" is not justice, "date rape" is not rape.

In fact, it is readily apparent that if alcohol is involved in any way, that should be considered an important indicator that regret, and not rape, is involved. Many women intentionally get drunk in order to absolve themselves of responsibility for their subsequent actions, and in certain mixed-sex environments, one could make a very strong case for the mere fact of getting drunk equating to consent, given the fact that implicit consent is the controlling factor in the complete absence of formal written and notarized consent.

24 comments:

Crowhill said...

And the feminist response to this seems to be the "rape is rape" campaign. IOW, rather than admitting the problem, they double down on the stupidity.

Vox said...

Yes, they don't seem to grasp that the issue is not "rape is rape", but rather "not-rape is not rape".

En-sigma said...

This needs to be on the list of reasons TO date a single mom.

11. They like to drink...a lot....

12. They don't mind you recording the act

13. Their rape accusations are easily disproved.

tilikum said...

always be filming

swiftfoxmark2 said...

More reasons why women shouldn't go to college. I remember stalking the halls as a pathetic Omega hearing those intelligent, independent women giggle about how drunk they were going to get on Friday. And looking out my window and seeing girls walking arm in arm in order to hold each other up.

There were rape alarms all over campus. Only once did I hear one go off, followed by the RA's dash to the rescue. Too bad it was a false alarm. White knighting must be exhaustive.

freeonus said...

Rape is a horrible experience and can have long lasting effects - both physically and emotionally. These women who claim rape as an afterthought seriously belittle the women who have actually been through it.

Ecclesiastes said...

"Rape" is any sex act that a woman is embarrassed about. That's it.

Did she get photographed enjoying oral sex in public? It's rape. Was it in private and the photos showed up on the internet? It's cyber rape. Did she wake up with a geek last week? It was date rape. Did the guy blow her off? It will be rape next week. Was the natal delivery staff rude to her? It was birth rape. Did her husband arouse her out of sleep and have sex with her? It was marital rape.

I don't care about rape anymore. It used to be important, but now it's only embarrassing.

LibertyPortraits said...

It's a shame that that guy will forever carry the stigma of being accused of rape.

Crowhill said...

freeonus makes a good point -- that the women who lie about rape, and the women who (and legal structures that) help and support other women who lie about rape, are hurting the people who actually have been raped.

swiftfoxmark2 said...

From the article, here's a quote from the scumbag defense attorney:

Her life was a complete dream and she convinced herself she had been raped. Who knows what was going on in her mind but she believed something within her had said no.

Mark my words, we will soon enter an era where the court system will convict a man on the basis of a woman's claim that she believed to have been raped, regardless of all evidence to the contrary. This includes eyewitness accounts and video footage.

tz said...

We need something like MADD to promote large fines and jail terms for SUIs/SWIs.

As to rape, is it serious or not? If sex is not sacred (and the government seems schizophrenic on the issue), then rape should have no more penalty than the theft of any other service - running out of a barber shop, restaurant, or spa without paying for example. The local hookers can establish the going rate for the service that was stolen.

If sex is sacred (even in a civil sense - consider perjury), then hooking up itself should be criminal. It would be a fraud to engage in.

Unknown said...

"tilikum said...

always be filming"

in some western jurisdictions, notably New Zealand, filming an intimate encounter is also a crime. A young government advisor was accused of rape, presented the video as defence, was convicted of that crime instead. this law will be coming to your area....

Jimmy Hendricks said...

http://thepost.ohiou.edu/content/blackburn-will-not-press-charges-alleged-rape-court-street-case?utm_content=bufferd2341&utm_source=buffer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Buffer

Looks like sanity actually won out in Ohio. Sadly, despite all the evidence, I doubt true justice wins out with false accusation charges being filed.

"A reasonable person would think that she was not intoxicated beyond the ability to consent," Blackburn said.
Blackburn, in one of the most detailed accounts of the alleged rape given by a public official, described the event as follows:
The couple left after closing and began kissing at several locations moving from North Court Street to South Court Street.
At one point, the man and woman were chased from the hood of a car while kissing, and at approximately 3 a.m. Oct. 12, they stopped in front of Chase Bank, 2 S. Court St., where the male performed sex acts on the female.
The female was responsive, smiling and grabbing the back of the man’s head.
During the act, the man asked the woman if he should stop because a crowd was building behind them; she answered no. Independent witness confirmed this.
After leaving the bank, the two were seen on video voluntarily entering the man’s apartment. They arrived just after 3:30 a.m. and left at 6:30 a.m. The man then walked the woman home and provided her with his cell phone number via text message.
Lab results show the woman’s system was clean of any date rape drug. Neither party was aware that the sex acts were videotaped.

poxvay said...

This incident underlines nothing because it's an anecdote. This is like finding a frog with 6 legs and claiming that most frogs have 6 legs.

Conscientia Republicae said...

Yes, an anecdote from a public official. No need to pay attention to it. Just like Uncle Remus!

Jill said...

Poxvay, you are technically correct. VD posts quite a bit of anecdota. Individually, these stories don't make a case. Taken as a whole, one case after another, a pattern begins to emerge. It's a pattern I've observed from just living in the world, without looking at media. Young women are living with cognitive dissonance brought to them by competing messages of free-love and slut-shaming. So they will engage in free-love, and then often lie about it to avoid the shaming. Although to be fair, some women are simply looking for attention. I agree with the above commenter (freeonus) that those who are lying about rape are doing an enormous disservice to women who are actually raped. And that's all I have to say about that. I chose to respond to you because I held the same disrespect for VD's anecdota until I stepped back and observed his methodology.

paulmurray said...

ABR.

Always Be Recording.

Remo said...

Arrested! My goodness! Well I'm sure her 12 hours of community service will be very trying indeed. Book deals and talk show circuit to follow.

Dexter said...

We don't have anecdotal evidence that Pox Vay is stupid as shit.

His track record is 100% consistent, and at this point him saying something intelligent would be like finding a frog with six legs - a most unexpected development, indeed.

poxvay said...

Dexter is obviously intimidated.

I don't mean that the story is untrue. It's simply one piece of data. Vox uses it to highlight a point he's trying to make, but it fails in that regard. It's simply illogical to conclude that rape is most often sex regret because of a few incidences. Or even many incidences given how much actual rape there is.

Trust said...

Vox could say that X% of rape accusations are false, but that probably wouldn't be as perusasie or condusive to readership. Giving an illustration of the kind of "rapes" included in the 1 in 4 women are raped statistic illustrates why the state is bogus.

I recall reading something like this: when 911 is called bc a woman has attempted suicide, reaponders normally end up with a woman who walks to the ambulance after taking 10 aspirin. When they are called bc a man has attempted suicide, they'll often fund his brains splattered all over the room. The justaposition is how cruel it is how often it is touted that women attempt suicide more. Is that to say women never succeed and men never feign attempts for attention? Of course not. But the story gives a better illustration of what is really being said than dull facts.

Of course there is real rape, and of course it is horrible. But Vox is great at illustrating that what qualifies as rape nowadays is far from true horrible rape. He doesn't excuse true rape, nor does.he allow men to be falsely accused of it so women can feel better.

Dexter said...

Pox is obviously deluded, both in his assessment of me and of this story.

En-sigma said...

pox is uninformed. Go through the archives, find the info you are looking for. It has been discussed here, and linked to studies, and other blogs which also linked to other studies and so many places that a lone troll is about as worrisome as a centipede that only has 99 legs.

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