Thursday, October 17, 2013

"Rape" is ex post facto regret

I find it both amusing and informative that the media can't even manage to keep a straight face while trying to report yet another regret rape as a real one:
A university student photographed while appearing to be engaging in a public sex act near Ohio University's Athens campus tells police she was being raped as fellow students watched and uploaded pictures. As many as 10 people watched and tweeted pictures and even a video of the act while describing both their shock and humor of the scene unfolding, according to students who broadcast the scene on Twitter.

The couple, described as being in their early 20s, is seen in several shots leaning against a Chase Bank window on Court Street - just a block from the Athens police station - as the man has oral sex with her.

But since the photos' upload, all of which appear to be deleted online, many have questioned whether the woman pictured wasn't actively engaging in the act herself. A college news website since claiming access to the event's 1:27 video Wednesday reports that the sex does appear consensual and the woman appeared to be enjoying herself.
The fact is that most claims of "rape" are fraudulent. Every police officer and every nurse who has to go through the charade of pretending to take them seriously knows it. It's time to stop pretending that rape is the worstest crime ever in the history of the world; most women who claim to have been raped are merely women who are attempting to avoid responsibility for the consequences of their sexual decisions.

Some well-meaning women believe that the solution is to warn women about the dangers of drinking too much, failing to understand that the reason young women are drinking to excess in the first place is in order to give themselves the excuse to be "taken advantage of" and "raped" in order to have casual sex without feeling guilty about it. Hence all the ex post facto fake rape claims; in this case, the woman was embarrassed by her behavior in public, so she cries rape, and hey presto, suddenly it's not her fault. Right.

Unless a woman is either a) underage, b) at home, or c) forcibly dragged off somewhere by a stranger, the chances are very, very low that she hasn't been raped. Contra the college propaganda, no does not actually mean no, as any man who has ever gotten up and walked out on a woman the moment she said no will recognize.

Seriously, try it sometime. It's vastly amusing. The moment a woman says no, immediately get up and leave. When she looks upset and says "wait, where are you going?" just tell her "no means no, have a nice evening".  After all, you wouldn't want to be a rapist, would you?

31 comments:

tz said...

Regret After Previous Encounter. There's Rape, and there's R.A.P.E.

(Typo in last, you wouldn't want to be rapist I think should be ...raped).

Back under the patriarchy, women's "no" meant until our honeymoon. One solution was shotgun weddings. The default was virginity, and it being highly valued. Now it is the opposite. During the transition there were rape shield laws. Women feared strange, threatening men, now they want them. Now the shield laws work in reverse. Statistically the accuser is a slut.

But it brings upma political-spiritual point. If we are all rutting animals, why shouldn't rape be treated as theft of service. If I don't pay for a haircut and run out of the shop, or don't pay for a blow-job, there are already penalties.

Rape can only be a horrendous crime if sex - (like life, before roe) is considered sacred, transcendent.

Now it is all utilitarian. Life is cheap, sex (one's body) is cheaper. Shouldn't the law reflect this deflation much as the inflation for writing bad checks over a value?

Booch Paradise said...

There's a reason for Deuteronomy 22:23-24

"If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death—the young woman because she was in a town and did not scream for help"

Conscientia Republicae said...

What rape victim poses for pictures with her rapist after the rape occurs?

She probably realized after the liquid responsibility eliminator wore off that there was internet proof of her sluttiness.

Conscientia Republicae said...

"I like rape, theft, murder and rape."

"You said rape twice."

"I like rape."

swiftfoxmark2 said...

Booch Paradise:

You forget that if a man had raped a woman who was not betrothed, then the man would have to pay a dowry to her parents, marry her, and he could never divorce her.

That's real justice.

Iowahine said...

No typo, tz. The question, "Afterall, you wouldn't want to be a rapist, would you?" is for posed to the guy who takes "no" as no and gets up to leave. Otherwise, if he stays and sex ensues, her saying "no" before she willing participates will be called rape by her.

Booch Paradise said...

swiftfoxmark2: I didn't forget, it's just not relevant. The point is that ex post facto rape rationalizations are clearly a natural part of female behavior. This is a societal problem that was recognized some 3500 years ago.

Andre B said...

Hahahaha I actually perform the "no means no" routine regularly, and it's a blast every single time.

Even with my fiancée it's hilarious. I've done it so many times to her that I swear she's now thinking three times before she decides to do something she might regret later. I think I've educated her better in three years than her father in 20.

sunshinemaryandthedragon said...

I have come to the conclusion that it isn't exactly regret sex. Women simply cannot sleep around the way men can and feel okay about it, despite the feminist lie that they can. After engaging in casual sex, women often feel really, really bad. It isn't just regret; it's misery. And so her hamster starts spinning..."I shouldn't feel so miserable. I'm suppose to be able to sleep around just like men. He doesn't seem miserable, so why am I? I didn't consent to feeling like this! I must not have consented at all. It must have been rape. That explains why I feel so bad."

So, they actually end up believing that they were raped. It's a lie, but it isn't exactly a conscious lie.

Peregrine John said...

Is there any lie more pernicious, or more fecund, than lying to one's self?

Bob Wallace said...

My mother, who worked in a night ER as the admitting clerk, told me 90% of rape claims are false.

The other ten percent are guys who didn't call the next day. Like Mike Tyson.

Trust said...

So, if a man takes a woman out, and she isn't honest that she has no intent on ever having sex or a relationship, she just pretends she is in order to get him to pay for expensive dates or trips.... does the man's ex post facto regrets make it theft through deception?

Trust said...

@ Peregrine John said... Is there any lie more pernicious, or more fecund, than lying to one's self?
_________

If your son had consensual sex, what would you find worse about false allegation of rape.... the fact that she pied to herself, or the fact that she lied to the police, the judge, and the jury?

Stickwick Stapers said...

Trust, I don't think that was the point Peregrine John was making. Self-deception is worse, because it leads to worse things. A woman who deceives herself that she has been raped is likely to be more convincing and more driven for "justice" than a woman who is only outwardly deceptive. It's the same sort of difference between your average lying politician and a true-believer -- we all know which is worse.

cailcorishev said...

Yep, when she was in the act, it was probably mind-blowingly hot, the most exciting thing she's ever done. She probably felt -- to the extent that any thoughts were getting through the haze of lust and alcohol -- like a famous Hollywood actress and Mata Hari rolled into one. Then afterwards she realizes it's going to be just another grainy sex vid like millions of others online, with gross nerds who don't even know her name pleasuring themselves over her and then forgetting about her ten seconds later. She can't have done something that horrible to herself, so it must have been his fault.

Peregrine John said...

Stickwick is correct, Trust. Look up "fecund" for further details, though Stickwick did cover it pretty nicely.

JCclimber said...

cailcorishev,
almost correct.
It was actually slut-shaming that made her regret it, from other women that she knows at school. Has nothing to do with gammas and omegas masturbating to her image.
I don't think most women would have such a horrible reaction to the whole masturbation to her image thing, because in a way, that just shows that she is a hot sex object (to some men at least).

cailcorishev said...

JCClimber, true, although if they gave her poor reviews, that wouldn't help.

Trust said...

Gotcha. I do stand corrected and agree. Apologies. :)

tz said...

Volokh catches up.

tz said...

@Iowahine - I missed the lack of quotes, my bad.

Although to "Wait, where are you going", I either wouldn't respond, or with something like "elsewhere", or "away from you".

Bob said...

What amazes me about this particular case is, how much fucking evidence are you supposed to need?

We have:
Pictures
Video
Eyewitnesses
Logic & Facts (Round the corner from police station, changing story to cry rape after threatened with expulsion)
Posing for pictures AFTER

and all the rest of the bollocks.

What more could POSSIBLY be needed, a written contract? Heck even that would have NO value since the woman would just scream she was "coerced" into signing it.

Here we have absolutely ALL possible evidence on display, and yet the media, police and everyone else are still treating it as rape. What the effing hell? This is hardly some shady story about what "may" have happened in a dark alley or dorm room or something.

B.J. said...

When I was just a young lad, I was making out with this hot chick in my bed. As I was taking off her clothes she goes, "No, wait, stop, we can't do this..." I kinda freak out and immediately stop what I am doing.

She got VERY annoyed and said, "Wow I can't believe you gave up so easily."

Markku said...

It would be the most amusing, done in a very deliberate and rhythmic way.

Get up
grab pants
pull pants up
zip pants
belt up
point your finger at her like Buddy Christ and say "no means no."
swipe your hand in the air and say "and I'm no rapist"
say "good evening, ma'am"
leave

And to every protest along the way, say very gravely, "no rapist."

mansizedtarget said...

Getting up like that sounds like a good way to get accused of rape.

As I joking once said to a friend: It ain't rape if you buy her breakfast!

Seriously, a little manners go a long way to preventing you from sustaining or inflicting serious regret/confusion/false-rape-accusations.

Markku said...

This is black-knighting, not trying to avoid false rape accusations. If you are afraid to not have sex for fear of being accused of rape, then clearly black-knighting isn't for you.

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