Sunday, March 18, 2012

Hypergamouse 005

48 comments:

Anonymous said...

Eh, none of these really do anything for me.

mmaier2112 said...

GIYP. Mmmmmmmm.... actually, only a small percentage of the girls on that sight trip my trigger. But the ones that do...

I so need to join a gym.

Houston said...

Their grandmothers knew the answer. But it's not a question of what "more" men want; it's a question of what we want to begin with.

Anonymous said...

Funny and true!

Solo

Just A Girl said...

I hope you don't mind a woman asking a question. Having spent some time looking through the manosphere for a better understanding of what appeals to men, I thought yoga pants and a ponytail constituted a rather sloppy outfit. Wouldn't most men prefer a woman to put some time and effort into her appearance, and maintain a day-to-day look consisting of a dress or skirt, stockings, make-up, and jewelry?

Houston said...

Just A Girl: Men are attracted to female youth and beauty. To get some idea of what this is, Google "nose art" for World War II American bombers and see how the airmen depicted the women they fantasized about sleeping with. If you have a body like this, you can look good to men even in sweatpants. Hairstyle, jewelry, make-up and the heels/skirt combo do help to make plain girls more competitive with pretty girls in the SMP, but they are not what draw and hold our attention.

anothermouse said...

Girly....it ain't the outfit, it's what's filling it that counts in that panel....

mmaier2112@work said...

Anyone else thinking of the pullstring Malibu Stacy after seeing this girl's handle?

"Don't ask me..."

Wendy said...

Malibu Stacy

Hehe, nice. And yes. And the cartoon reminds me of Lisa Lionheart. (That was the name, right? It's been a while since I've seen that episode.)

Why would Vox mind a woman asking a question?

Well fitting Yoga pants and a ponytail in the right context (gym, park, etc.) can be quite attractive. Of course, what's inside the outfit matters the most.

Wendy said...

By cartoon, I meant comic strip above.

Daniel said...

...and yoga pants aren't sweat pants. What Just A Girl and BAmbitionMouse in the strip are missing is that putting your time and effort into things that men do not find attractive (education, careerism, girl business suits and brutal, business like haircuts and the severe, hardened expressions that come with them) and deliberately avoiding the things that men do find attractive (having a fit body with clothes that prove it, youthful, feminine hair and actually giving men attention instead of whining to a girlfriend about prospects) is self-defeating.

In other words, yoga pants isn't competing here with flowing (non-business) skirt and make-up - she's competing with Hilary Clinton.

And it is a slaughter.

Besides, the fact is this: a girl who looks good in yoga pants and no make-up is a girl who looks good.

Mike M. said...

Just A Girl is right. Especially for women who don't have flawless figures. As a rule, more formal clothing is better at concealing figure flaws and emphasizing good points than less formal clothing. It can't work miracles, but can be a significant boost.

Just A Girl said...

That makes sense. Thanks!

Orion said...

Of course the real subtext is that the "Ivy League degree" has very little attraction to men. Perhaps as much interest is generated if a man tells a woman they have the command structure of the Confederate army memorized from the War Between the States. Sure, there may be some that are impressed in a vague way, but odds are just as good that it will be a negative when considering for a relationship. Especially if you are familiar with what comes out of the Ivy League the last few decades.

Anonymous said...

At least in this case the 'smart' woman isn't fat...although she is masculine acting which is presumably the point. Most of us have encountered this type...the only thing missing here is the 'Ivy League' woman saying 'men are intimidated by smart women'.

Difster said...

Why are there two sets of comments? One set of comments here and another place to comment when you click on the picture to get the larger version?

Corporate women like that make me ill.

Stickwick said...

Why do men like pony tails so much?

Stingray said...

I didn't think they did? I thought most liked it down and flowing?

The in the gutter, male side of my brain automatically thinks "It is something to grab onto." Sorry. It just went there on it's own. ; )

Stickwick said...

I've heard quite a few men say they like pony tails on a woman, so it seems kind of universal. I just don't understand what exactly is appealing about it.

"It is something to grab onto."

That made me think of Flashheart in Blackadder II: "Like the beard, Bridesmaid. Gives me something to hang on to!"

Anonymous said...

Because it's long enough to be put into a ponytail. Doesn't matter that you do it, it matters that you can.

Daniel said...

Stingray's right - "something to grab onto" - but also this: an attractive woman in a ponytail is suspending her hair on purpose: unlike the kinetic sexiness of yoga pants on a fit body, it holds potential sexiness - the potential to unleash.

In other words, the casual girl, though not even as kinetically sexy as she can be with the mere twist of a band, is infinitely more appealing than Madame Executive Clubfoot.

A good ponytail is the "cute phase" of unleashed tresses.

Stingray said...

Is this why guys like women in a baseball cap as well? I have heard that many, many times and it has always surprised me.

Stickwick said...

When we go to the shooting range, I have my hair in a pony tail and a baseball cap pulled down low. My husband really likes this look.

Interesting explanation, Daniel. Makes sense.

Now I just have to figure out what yoga pants are.

Vox said...

Why do men like pony tails so much?

Can't have a pony tail without long hair. And a woman wearing a pony tail is usually doing something halfway-athletic, so she's probably in better shape than the norm.

I prefer long hair to be down if I'm given the choice. But I'll always notice a ponytail, especially the loose kind tied low.

Ghost said...

I have a feeling Ambitious Mouse will be marrying herself soon...

Anonymous said...

Wow, the artist did an exceptionally poor job on this.

Anonymous said...

Somehow, I don't think you consider shoulder-length long, because I have a ponytail and my hair only goes down to my shoulders when it's undone.

Giraffe said...

I like ponytails, and baseball caps. I don't know why.

Perhaps because exposing the neck is an indicator of interest.

Perhaps as VD said, she's doing something active.

Daniel said...

The ball cap also indicates - at a minimum - that the woman isn't going to have a kneejerk "ugh, sports!" response. In other words, at worst, she's got a passing openness or tolerance for sports, and at best, is a legitimate fan of them. If a guy shoots, golfs, watches or plays in sports (or even fishes) - a ball cap on a girl sends the message that she doesn't whine about that stuff.

Anonymous said...

It's not that bad. Mousephy Brown just needs some crow's feet.

Mr. Scott said...

The ponytail suggests youth and fun, being often worn by younger women doing things men consider fun. It also suggests the woman isn't too vain, as she's willing to go around without taking an hour to fix her hair.

Ezra said...

Shoulder length hair is "long" only in woman-speak. To men, (or to me if you prefer) shoulder length hair looks like a helmet and rather on the "short" side. I've explained the same point to other women. "Tresses" begin somewhere in the beyond-your-shoulders area.

Anonymous said...

Shorter hair is better on women anyway...

Eli said...

No, it's really not.

Anonymous said...

People are missing the point of the comic - it's not that men are attracted to yoga pants and ponytails (she just mentioned that in passing only).

The point is that men are attracted to femininity.

Drew said...

haha, love the businesswoman mouse with the short hair

Markku said...

People are missing the point of the comic - it's not that men are attracted to yoga pants and ponytails (she just mentioned that in passing only).

Furthermore, I think the joke is in how much more work there was involved with something that doesn't really work - good job and ivy league degree - than in what would have worked.

Stickwick said...

No, I think we all get that. The point of the ponytail discussion was to analyze what exactly is feminine and alluring about it.

Houston said...

@ Stickwick: That's a description of my future wife when I first took her shooting (and I really liked the look too).

jay c said...

Youth, or the illusion of youth.

Mr. Scott said...

Is it actually a common belief that achievement is a way to catch a man, rather than simply a path to extra money and some feminist idea of "fulfilment"? Traditional gender roles seem to be somewhat stronger here in the American South, so I could have easily missed that meme -- this is the first I've heard of it.

Caballarius said...

Many women mistakenly believe that men should find achievement and "confidence" attractive because those are the same traits they are looking for in men. A surprisingly common misconception among women age 50 and younger.

carnaby said...

I hate yoga pants. My wife wears them and I call them her ninja pants. Good thing she's so great that she could wear a used garbage bag and I'd still think she was awesome.

Ponytails are a plus though :-)

On the other hand, I dislike most jewelry and makeup. Keep it simple.

Laguna Beach Fogey said...

"Pony tails and yoga pants" -- too true!!

It works. :-)

SolemnSentinel said...

I would be more interested in a comic from a sigma's POV, and without animal people...

The CronoLink said...

The art is lacking but the characters' poses are excellent.

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