Sunday, January 22, 2012

No taming the tigress

Game has its limits. If a woman is a confirmed drama-addicted maneater, it is almost always best to keep a safe distance, regardless of whether you are the Alphiest Alpha or a white-knighting Gamma.
The “dramatic,” like other sociopaths, provides glimmers of past abuses in past relationships, which really is bragging about past bad behaviors and promises of new ones yet to come. Men drawn to these women ignore those warnings, and think they have the power to change such women. Clearly, the problem exists on both sides of the gender divide, but the sexual behavior of male sociopaths is another story.

Such a woman subtly displays her sexuality in a way that is more understood by women than by men. She wants to walk into a room to dominate the other women, telling them by her presence that their men are theirs only as long as the “dramatic” decides not to take them. Sexuality is not to be ostentatiously displayed, but to be conveyed in subtle and tasteful elegance. The kind of woman says, “I dress to attract the attention of other women and to dominate them. I let them know their men are mine for the taking. The men, of course, will look at me, but the women will look at me and hate me. I thrive on it!”
Game doesn't work well on female sociopaths for the same reason it doesn't work well on rocks or fish. Their motivations and processes are outside the normal range of human behavior, so they simply aren't going to conform to the usual patterns well and their actions tend to be erratic and unpredictable. No amount of Game or even Hand is going to help here, because the very stability that Game and sexual dominance pleases a neurotypical woman is exactly what the sociopath instinctively seeks to escape.

It's not the outcome, but the specific form of the disaster that will tend to vary depending upon one's socio-sexual rank. While Gammas and Betas will simply be used, chewed up, and spit out without a moment's hesitation by the sociopathic woman they so nobly and self-sacrificially want to help, the higher-ranked men arguably have it worse. They're the ones who end up getting stalked, whose bunnies get boiled, and whose houses are set alight.

I strongly recommend not getting involved in any way with a woman who talks openly about how badly she was abused by a previous man, especially not if it appears to be a pattern with her, or as the author of the linked article suggests, if it is a point of pride for her. Solipsism is one thing, but cranking it up to eleven by removing even the most vestigial conscience is something altogether more dangerous. Even the most hardened practitioner of Dark Game simply isn't up to the task of dealing with woman of this sort; it's like taking a knife to an exchange of intercontinental ballistic missiles.

There is no cure for crazy.

17 comments:

Anonymous said...

I'm trying to understand the following sentence.

"I strongly recommend not getting involved in any way with a woman who talks openly about how badly she was abused by a previous man, especially not if it appears to be a pattern with her, or as the author of the linked article suggests, if it is a point of pride for her."


The author of the linked article talks about the sociopath bragging about doing the abuse not being the victim of it. At least that's how I understood it. Is your sentence a mistake or am I not understanding correctly?


Athor Pel

Anonymous said...

Something I've noticed in the manosphere is the propensity of some victimized men to attribute sociopathic character traits to all women in order to justify their demonization of women in general. If full blown sociopathy/psychopathy isn't what these men use then some other mental illness like borderline personality disorder or narcissistic personality disorder is used as the brush to paint women with.

I've been extreme in my characterization to make a point. I actually don't think too many men do exactly what I've described above but I do think once men start to see women for what they really are they become aware of the potential for those pathologic behaviors to surface in any woman and that awareness is enough make these men extremely gun shy concerning any relationship with any woman.

All women become potential psychos even if their previous behavior for the most part belies that diagnosis.

If you witness irrational or extremely vindictive behavior enough times in enough women and that behavior has no concern for consequences no matter how bad then the rules for how reality functions start to warp for you. If one woman lies about you to get you into trouble then all women become capable of the same behavior. If you get damaged badly enough by enough women then there is no going back, there will be no more trust of any depth and complete trust will forever flee from you no matter how much you desire it. All women become damaged goods in the man's eyes.

So, to the women out there that root for team woman come hell or high water remember what was written above and pay close attention to what I am about to say. For you to defend any woman from a man's accusations regardless of her real culpability is to also condone the actions of the accused woman which then paints you with the same brush in the minds of every man reading your words. You become a psycho in men's eyes and from that point on you can't be trusted and every word you utter will be analyzed and no quarter will be given. If you want to be abandoned by or alienate the men in your life then this is the surest way to do it.

You have been warned.


Athor Pel

Markku said...

All women become damaged goods in the man's eyes.

I don't think it is "all" as in mathematically 100.00 % Just enough of them that getting involved with on has such low expectation value of turning out as a good idea that you'd like the odds of Russian Roulette a helluva lot more.

Markku said...

on=one

Gareth said...

And i read this post just after dropping my lovely boy off with my highly solopic and shouty ex. What timing.

Vox said...

The author of the linked article talks about the sociopath bragging about doing the abuse not being the victim of it. At least that's how I understood it. Is your sentence a mistake or am I not understanding correctly?

What you're not understanding is that sociopaths lie and female sociopaths like to play victim even when they are the victimizer. Such women are going to claim that she was forced to cheat because of X, Y, and Z not openly brag about it.

The other writer was saying that when they are telling their sob stories, they are actually bragging. In other words, he's telling you how to interpret what they say, not telling you what they say.

Markku said...

The other writer was saying that when they are telling their sob stories, they are actually bragging.

Like someone once said, schadenfraud.

Anonymous said...

"Even the most hardened practitioner of Dark Game simply isn't up to the task of dealing with woman of this sort; it's like taking a knife to an exchange of intercontinental ballistic missiles."

The only way to deal with the women of the subspecies Bitchyius spidereus is bringing your own nukes. Keep at a distance, always evade, and then salt the Earth if things get too hot. And never, ever, let them have any leverage over you.

It also helps if you are good at detecting them. Fortunately I am able to smell their wafting fetid pheromones in the same room from 40 paces.

IndyGuy77 said...

"If you witness irrational or extremely vindictive behavior enough times in enough women and that behavior has no concern for consequences no matter how bad then the rules for how reality functions start to warp for you"

Funny. Friday I was told (immediately after I pointedly told a rumour-monger I didn't want to hear any more office rumours, in fact!) that one of the women that "got hit with divorce out of the blue" flat-out lied to me about her story.

Why? Don't know, don't really care. I don't even know if the facts I was told were true, but I'd guess they are. It would fit.

I guess it's just frustration with folks. I'd much rather have them tell me (like I tell them if it applies) "I'm not comfortable enough to be talking about that with you" than lie to me.

But I guess it boils down to just fine-tuning your female BS detector and remaining skeptical about women until you have proof you can trust them.

Once you take that damn red pill...

Daniel said...

Man oh man the archetypical braggadocio of the female sociopath is an eye-popping rap.

If you are a woman, the sociopath craves your revulsion. If you are a man, she has your foot nailed to the floor at ground zero the second that "Aww," passes your lips.

Eject! Eject! Eject!

Spectator said...

The one upshot to women like this is it's a great opportunity to raise your stock in the eyes of other women while only risking alienating one woman who you could not possibly give a crap about. As stated in the post, even most other WOMEN hate these kind of women. Even the girls who present themselves as their friends often hate them, so they attempt to put you in your place and you just calmly (bonus points if pleasantly) verbally destroy them, it will undoubtedly put other women's hearts and loins all a twitter. Their spirits will soor like the people of munchkin land when dorothy dropped the house on her if they see her thoroughly cowed. As Vox has covered at length before, being a doormat to the woman you are trying to impress is a surefire way to kill it, but also being a doormat to another who is a stranger is probably even worse. So you gain several benefits from this display

1) demonstrate high value in that you show you won't tolerate uncouth behavior directed towards you.

2) earn status in the eyes of all the women around due to the fact that you have effortlessly stepped in and slain the beast who passive aggressively menaces them in the way Vox describes

Anonymous said...

"...one of the women that "got hit with divorce out of the blue" flat-out lied to me about her story."

A woman lied to you? No way man, get the hell out of here! Next you are going to claim they talk about anorexia being more of a problem than obesity.

indyguy77@work said...

Anon, I just found it funny that without caring or trying, a lie that served no apparent purpose whatsoever was exposed.

Why bother?

Anonymous said...

If she is hot enough, some guy will think he can deal with her.

That..is..why..she..keeps...doing...it....

And trust me, certain Ladies, ahem, know how to shut one of these freaks down when they get a little too close to our men :)
Carlotta

Anonymous said...

"Anon, I just found it funny that without caring or trying, a lie that served no apparent purpose whatsoever was exposed.

Why bother?"

Because it is a woman. Go read Schopenhauer again on dissimulation and women.

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