Think twice before you actually ask this loaded question. What will you gain by knowing the answer In my opinion, very little. Numbers mean nothing without knowing the circumstancesActually, what it will tell you is if they are inclined to be faithful or not. You don't need to make sense of a woman's final number. You only need to know what it is to know whether the odds are in your favor or not.
Knowing the amount of lovers your partner has had without knowing the age and stage they were at when it happened tells you very little. Say they admit to 40 lovers. They might have clocked up 38 of them between the age of 18 and 25 and had a modest two more in that last 20 years. Or they might have had two lovers, then got married and had six affairs, topping up the total after being separated for just one year.
Or perhaps they added the last 20 at an erotic 'sex party' like Killing Kittens – oh, and those 20 happened to be same sex rather than heterosexual encounters.
To make sense of someone's final number, you need a lot of detail. Do you really want to know that much detail? Knowing someone's sex number without the details is a bit like snooping, finding something out and not being able to ask for an explanation.
You drive yourself mad imagining who, what, where, how (and how good). Unless your partner's prepared to answer one hell of a lot of very personal questions, knowing their number is going to accomplish little else but drive you nuts.
There are two very good reasons to ask women advice about sex and relationships. And that is to find out a) what NOT to do and b) what she believes to be in her own interest.
The reason this woman advises not to ask a woman about her N is because her own is well into the double-digits.
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WTF?
Once again, I don't envy unattached men above a certain age. The pool of women looks like a stagnant retention pond at a sewage treatment plant from my perspective.
At what point is the N high enough to qualify the girl as a prostitute?
Women who have been with several partners--meaning 5 or more-- give off a vibe that any red-pilled many should pick up on.
It's hard to describe; but you just know. It's a sense you get---like being around a lib or gay and your spidey sense goes off and picks up on the darkness in their soul. Maybe it's evil.
maybe it's self-destruction.
Maybe its Maybelline... Most western women give off that vibe. The only ones who don't are the very young conservative religious women who have miraculously stayed chaste in this hedonistic fuckhole we habitate.
And even her self-serving answer implies that the N they give you won't include all the sex encounters that "don't count".
She was drunk.
She was very young.
It was a one-night stand.
It was only oral sex.
It was only anal sex.
She didn't come.
It happened on a school trip.
He didn't come.
She was traveling in a foreign country.
She was depressed and it "just happened".
None of those are going to show up in her self-reported N.
``At what point is the N high enough to qualify the girl as a prostitute?''
When N>number of husbands. N should equal number of husbands, and if N=1 rather than 0, she had better be a widow, not a divorcee.
I don't know man. I had this girl-who-is-a-friend in high school who was a really messed up slut. Anyway, she'd give me pretty solid advice on what girls like, e.g. how to fuck'em good, what to say, how to act around them, etc. Some of it sickened me, but the stuff I took to heart helped a lot.
Though to be fair, this isn't the usual advice you'd get from women. We just had a sort of understanding: I'd treat her like a normal human being and she'd help me score with her friends. It was a weird situation, but we both benefited.
I looked up the Killing Kittens website. Female solipsism and hypergamy on full display. It markets itself as a high end, exclusive, elite orgy club centered on the pleasure of the female clients. Completely degenerate and SJW, who saw that coming, right? Love the last line of the intro page, Men be gentlemen, women, be whatever you want to be.
Always ask a woman her number. It's one of the best ways to know if she is wife material, a safe bang, or a diseased bang.
Even if you don't care if she has a high number, her N should be lower than your N. On average, most men should have low N for that's the reality.
"Actually, what it will tell you is if they are inclined to be faithful or not. You don't need to make sense of a woman's final number. You only need to know what it is to know whether the odds are in your favor or not."
A woman's N will also tell you how able she is to form and sustain relationships. It is also some evidence of the kinds of men she gravitates toward.
A woman who's fucked 10 guys in 3 years isn't very good at forming relationships and keeping them going. She's also not very good at picking men who are willing to stay with her. The only thing she's good at is picking men she likes fucking, and who pump and dump her.
@Whisker biscuit
Most likely what Heartiste calls the "thousand-cock stare".
Perhaps it is indeed a bad idea to ask about N. Rather, anyone of either sex who wants to make a relationship work might simply admit their number so that the one they love can make a decision.
Contrast that with the situation Ms. Cox describes; wondering in the aftermath of a romp in the hay about that. Well, yes, that would be a bad time, I think. Moreover, it also shows that both participants aren't serious about the relationship already. You want a stable relationship? Great. Ask and answer some of these questions before you know if she's a natural blonde or not.
I mean gosh, what could facts ever teach you?
> listening to women
> even once
As has been observed over and over, there is a severe asymmetry in the dating market. Women control access to sex where men control commitment. *However*, a woman can have sex, and quite a bit of it, well above her marriage number. A man cannot get commitment will above his marriage number.
Therefore we should expect to find mid-tier middle age women excusing their whoring, as their pussy has out-grabbed their looks and they realize they need to secure a mate more inline with their own MMV.
And so we find it.
Hilarious. Her projected examples are mere details that disprove her thesis:
Every one of the different "scenarios" to 40 simply show the mathwork that results in overexplaining what the plain old "40" already told everyone - she's a ho.
If she's offended and angered by the question, you know all that you need to know about her.
Run, Forrest, RUN!
That's why God simply warns people in His Word (King James Version Holy Bible [KJV]) not to have sex until marriage. But very few take His Word to heart. Amen.
~Bro. Jed
Have a sincere, heart to heart, and have her reveal her N.
Then, double it, because women lie about their N.
@Jed Mask
If I had to guess, extramarital fornication is a worse mortal sin for a woman than it is for a man. And even if they went to confession, the woman would have more time in purgatory as temporal punishment.
``If I had to guess, extramarital fornication is a worse mortal sin for a woman than it is for a man.''
That may be. Herpes, AIDS and so on are equally serious for men and women, so I think there are good reasons for not sinning, even if you are a man, even if you don't care about sin.
Finally, sin is sin, and Brother Jed is right.
VFM #7634 said... If I had to guess, extramarital fornication is a worse mortal sin for a woman than it is for a man. And even if they went to confession, the woman would have more time in purgatory as temporal punishment.
I would think you are correct. Women are the gatekeepers of sex.
The most insane thing about this "don't ask about N" advice is it assumes that the conversation just ends with a number. If you have context to justify your actions, what's stopping you from providing that context? Only the fact that the difference between "context" and "rationalization" is four syllables, I'd wager.
I know multiple polyamorous people with a more modest N (<5) than your average party girl. There is something deeper than your adopted ideology at play when it comes to promiscuity. r/k at work, I suspect.
If I had to guess, extramarital fornication is a worse mortal sin for a woman than it is for a man.
My mother-in-law recently found out she and her sister were the product of an affair. Grandma is 91 and kept the secret for over 60 years. Now, to be fair, the secret has done damage to two families because the biological father was married too. It's pretty terrible no matter what imho.
So the last girls I fooled around with, prior to getting remarried, had a notch count of 12 ( so she said).. She had spent her twenties living in a big metropolitan city and then traveling the world. So I multiplied it by 2 making it closer to 24. Anyway she was a cute girl, 34 and desperately wanted to get married. Red pill me knew she was cute enough for pump/dump but not commitment. Anyway fast forward 5 years and Im in the grocery store and look over at this young woman and think to myself "shit that chick looks like she's one step away from being a mentally ill bag lady".. I then do a double take and recognize her as my old fling. Went over shot the breeze and came to the realization that she literally had gone over the edge and become bat shit insane. The lies of feminism, non attached sex and her age - all collided and had created a human train wreck. It was sad really
@Revelation Means Hope,
"And even her self-serving answer implies that the N they give you won't include all the sex encounters that "don't count"."
That's why you multiply her N by 3.
Don't ask about N?
Don't ask a slut for advice about slut avoidance.
there is a severe asymmetry in the dating market. Women control access to sex where men control commitment.
I don't buy this "truism".
Men don't control commitment. Yes there will be times when she wants it more than he does. But when she decides it's over, it doesn't matter how "committed" he is, the relationship is done. If men controlled commitment, women would not initiate the majority of divorces, and divorce would be a lot less common.
If she won't commit to you because she's in her 20s and wants to ride the carousel, or because she is tired of being married and thinks she can do better, there's not going to be a commitment. So how did you, the man, control commitment?
[b]If I had to guess, extramarital fornication is a worse mortal sin for a woman than it is for a man.[/b]
Absolutely not true. At no point does the Bible support male fornication or say that the sexes will get judged differently in the afterlife.
RooshV.com isn't the Bible, lol.
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