Sunday, July 17, 2016

Alpha Mail: the end of online dating

A fifty-something gentleman gives Plenty of Fish a try.
A friend told me for a good laugh to check out Plenty of Fish. It is a free introduction/dating site. I put in an age range and zip code for search purposes and voila!

It is incredible!

1. You have the land whales showing way too much flesh and often hideous tattoos. Why it is land whale wear big rimmed glasses.

2. The females who have to make a "funny" face on the picture. A favorite seems to be a squeezing of the lips from both sides (pursing) to create a jutting, more vertical mouth. That one I don't get.

3. The psychopaths with the disturbing gaze into the camera. Their eyes are saying "Helter Skelter!"

4. I am convinced a few are actually men claiming to be women.

5. In general bad pictures. If I were on a dating site, I would be in my most appealing clothes, have a new haircut, some make up on. If I were overweight, I would probably try and work out for a month or two to tone up.

6. "I am a single mother with five children." As if that is a lure?

7. The profile titles as "I am tired of games," "No games, no drama," "This site sucks" etc. The anger is right out there for all to see.

8. Here and there, you do see a female who appears normal. They are outliers due to their scarcity. If the profiles are truthful, they are generally nurses or some sort of management. The scarcity of normalcy makes them stick out.

It is not a surprise that most take no pride in their appearance and make no effort to make a good impression. The nature of our slovenly society. I am of the view if someone does not take pride in their appearance, they don't take pride in anything else in their life either.

I did a search on age 36-52 out of morbid curiosity. I am 52, will be 53 in October. I was shocked at how aged from in their mid and late 40s looked. Probably a combination of cigarettes and too much sun exposure. Ridden hard and out wet.
There may be plenty of fish, but they're not the sort of much appeal to the average fisherman.

31 comments:

Bard said...

We used to read those sites in the mission planning room on deployment as a group for a good laugh. They are hilarious.

Bard said...

We used to read those sites in the mission planning room on deployment as a group for a good laugh. They are hilarious.

Bob said...

Heh the age thing is absolutely spot on. Most 20 ish year old girls look like they're 30-40.

The problem is all those ugly cunts STILL get hundreds and thousands of messages per minute. Their phones are constantly going. I've seen one girl's inbox and there were literally hundreds of unread messages, more than they possibly could keep up with.

Most are beta as fuck of course and irrelevant, however even those still massively inflate girl's egos to disproportionate heights, where you even have fatties walking around genuinely thinking they're goddesses.

Of course their inability to find anyone for anything more than a quick lay, shows through along with their anger though, which is pretty amusing.

archerfisher21 said...

Pof is crap. I've tries it... Bad crowd.

Okcupid determines if you're hot and if so, filters you in the hotter people away from fuglies. Have had a few good dates off it.

Tinder is mixed.

Rex Little said...

I've been on POF for a year and a half now, and I have no complaints. Sure, there are plenty of undesirables, but you can pick out the exceptions and go after them. The women complain about the quality of the men, too; more than one has told me that most of the ones my age (66) look like creeps and losers, and that I stand out because I don't. (I'm pretty average-looking in my own opinion, though I do look much younger than my age.)

The women I've met in person through POF haven't been young hotties, but they've been reasonably fit, not repulsive, and not hostile. One became my girlfriend for about a year, and I still have an FWB relationship with another.

The great thing about POF is that it's free to actually use. Other sites let you put up a profile and look at the women's profiles for free, but if you want to contact them, one or both of you has to be a paid member.

Hammerli280 said...

I was on the eHarmony scam for several years. Saw much the same thing in the 35-45 age range. You had the rode-hard party girls, the women bigger than I am (and I'm not svelte), and the pet worshippers.

BTW, ladies, a couple of pieces of advice....

1. Saying you're sarcastic is not attractive. Sarcasm is nastiness, not wit.

2. Pictures of you partying will not attract anyone but pump-and-dump artists.

3. I'm not interested in dating your dog. Kindly desist in putting up photos of your pets. Besides, my parrot is smarter.

4. Dress well. Miss Ann Average can pump her SMV up a point with a good outfit.

5. Sweetness sells. Do yourself a BIG favor and listen to Dr. Laura's program for a week. For all the talk of the manosphere about the Red Pill, it's women who need it....and she's got a 55-gallon barrel.

Eater of Rabbits said...

Strongly agree, and my experiences have been similar.

Last did online dating when I was last single, 6-8 years ago. At that time, most women at least attempted to put an attractive profile photo up, and tried to present a sane face to the internet. The entitlement mindset was already on the rise though.

Even then, most women on PoF were older and unattractive, but I still managed two dates from the site, both with slender, pretty women. Now, seems like all there are on almost any site are overweight single moms with slovenly pics, thousand cock stares, and profiles practically bragging about how crazy they are.

And yup, with all the thirsty low-ranking men, those women can do all that and still get hundreds of worshipful messages. Doesn't help their egos and sanity, or impart much interest in self-improvement.

It was briefly a bit better on OK Cupid, with their attractiveness ranking system, but haven't been there in a long time because they stealth-IP banned me. Likely for some very mild anti-SJW wording I had on my profile. There were no actual ToS violations. However, these days they don't explain why they do it, or even admit that they do.

The women are looking older, too. My impression is that for a long time in the developed countries, each generation of women looked slightly younger and healthier at a certain age than the one before them. Not anymore. Thanks to obesity and the cock carousel, you see dead-eyed burnouts in their late 20s.

paworldandtimes said...

There may be plenty of fish, but they're not the sort of much appeal to the average fisherman.

This is why mudsharking must be sanctioned, and not blithely (and defeatedly) conceded as a phenomenon that involves women who are undesirable to begin with.

The reason for why there are so many hideous White women out there is that they are settling on Black suitors. Male company is male company, dick is dick. Without that option, all of them would take better care of themselves, and more than half of them would be desirable to Deltas.

PA

VFM #7634 said...

Online dating is indeed imploding, due primarily to male thirst, and secondarily to the simple aging of the white American population, whose most common age is now 56.

POF is dregs now. OKCupid is not much better, and given how SJW-run it is, may be in fact worse in some ways. Thirsty men are even driving the more attractive young women out of Tinder. Not that that's a bad thing.

Another big problem with online sites is that you're forced into dating close to your own age, whereas IRL you have much more leeway.

The reason for why there are so many hideous White women out there is that they are settling on Black suitors. Male company is male company, dick is dick. Without that option, all of them would take better care of themselves, and more than half of them would be desirable to Deltas.

@paworldandtimes
I'm not convinced that mudsharking is actually causing obesity. Otherwise, states with few blacks such as West Virginia wouldn't also have a problem with female obesity, which may in fact be even worse than Mississippi's obesity problem if black females are excluded.

I read the situation as a large number of white women having become so poisoned by feminism that they essentially WGTOW out and bloat up. Black men, if there are any in the area, are either a palliative or a cynical "fuck you" to the white men whom they perceive as having wronged them. (And I imagine Muslim men serve the same role in Europe.)

Cail Corishev said...

POF is pretty bad. It insisted on trying to match me up with women 5-10 years older than me (I'm 46), even though my profile and settings said I was looking for 5-15 years younger. I don't know if that's because they have a surplus of older women, or because those are the paying customers, or both. And as he says, many of them don't even look like they're trying.

The funny part is that there will often be a banner ad for foreign brides or "Rich Cougars Want Young Men!" so right above the grid of images of angry, 50-year-old fatties, there will be an ad featuring a couple hot chicks showing off their cleavage, making the actual members of the site look even worse.

liberranter said...

This is why mudsharking must be sanctioned, and not blithely (and defeatedly) conceded as a phenomenon that involves women who are undesirable to begin with.

The reason for why there are so many hideous White women out there is that they are settling on Black suitors. Male company is male company, dick is dick. Without that option, all of them would take better care of themselves, and more than half of them would be desirable to Deltas.


Mudsharking has really very little to do with a woman's physical appearance, but everything to do with the (extensive) damage between her ears. By the time a woman is in "mudshark mode," she's too badly damaged to be salvaged and too dangerous for any white man to risk.

"Once she goes black, she CANNOT go back. Ever."

IOW, what VFM #7634 said on July 17, 2016 at 12:10 PM

Dexter said...

"Another big problem with online sites is that you're forced into dating close to your own age."

Why is that? Is it impossible to lie about your age?

Aeoli Pera said...

I know a lot of people meet online, but I would think it's usually through forums and other discussion groups.

David The Good said...

Mostly grunts, puffers, morays...

David The Good said...

This gentleman's observations are quite entertaining. I have noted the same in real life... the single moms with 4 kids by 10 men are particularly egregious examples.

liberranter said...

"Another big problem with online sites is that you're forced into dating close to your own age."

Why is that? Is it impossible to lie about your age?


I think Cail Corishev nails it. Women are an online dating site's primary customer base and successfully serving them is the primary mission of the site. If the majorty of the site's customers are older, washed up and abused fatty fugly slobs with an attitude and mental health problems, then those are the women the site is going to bend over backwards and pretzelize themselves in fobbing off onto the suckers, er, men who sign up.

IOW, what the MEN (relatively few that there are) want doesn't matter; they'll take what's put in front of them, or they'll go elsewhere.

And so many of these sites wonder why they have to practically bribe or threaten men to get them to sign up for premium (pay) services...

Sonia Rizvi said...

We used to peruse those locales in the mission arranging room on organization as a gathering for a decent snicker. They are clever.

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Anchorman said...

I'd wager the reason women look a lot older is because they lie about their age and think they can pull it off.

I tried it years ago, when I first divorced. Similar experiences.

genericviews said...

Agree with Anchorman. On-line women stop aging after 45.
The hard reality of on line dating is that everyone is lying. The least attractive of both genders are still attracted only to those few people who aren't interested. At some point, the circle of people I am attracted to fails to intersect with the circle of people I can attract. This happens due to age, flab, and race primarily. After you get to know they a little, the crazy shows itself and weeds out the rest.

Oddly enough, for middle aged people, those who make really good spouses, are already do that... with someone else.

The Lab Manager said...

I met a couple decent ones over the years but most of them are worthless. Even the ones with a college education are not reliable. I'm in a more conservative area and another peeve is how they tell you on the first meeting they go to church all the time. I'm not a raving atheist, but that is not something I wish to put a lot of leftover time into.

Then there are some women who make it a point to show pics with their tits almost hanging out but then end their profile with some snarky or derogatory comment about sex. Or something stupid about strong independent woman crap. If that's you feel about it, get some cats or dogs and delete your profile from a dating site.

And yes, the obesity and dyke haircuts don't help. Some of them should also just have headlines that put a price on the hoo-hah. Even 50 year old women, and nice looking for their age still sell themselves like a street whore. Code words like "successful man" and then a list of material crap kind of clues you in to the deal.

Marty Johnson said...

I once did a male profile using some obscure but very hawt looking movie-star's photo in my profile. And lied by dropping hints at how much money I had. I got unsolicited emails from some of the ugliest, oldest and skankiest she-beasts imaginable. It was as if those ugly she-whales had no idea of their sexual market value. My profile made me into the top 1% and most of the women responding were in the bottom ten percent. Not sure if they were delusional, or hawt men actually throw them a bone on occasion. Nah. Gotta be delusional.

Ministry of Truth said...

I have ben using POF of almost 1 year....quite successfully i will add.

Have been on "dates" with close to 10 girls from the site ( and had countless leads), actually bedding 4 of them. They range in age from 18-31...with the 31 yo being the maybe the hottest one; she is in love with me & i literally have to turn down an invitation to see her EVERY day.

Outside of the ones i have seen or are currently seeing, i have dates lined up with a 30 year-old German girl and a 25- year old hippie stoner this week alone....if i can fit them into my busy work, family & social schedule.

I am 34. & though i see all the problems with POF that the emailer sees - it's just like real life
- you've got to weed through the bad ones and focus on the good ones.
- you cant wait for them, you have to initiate the messaging
- your profle must be rock solid - i.e. do NOT qualify yourself to the girls but rather list your turn-ons & turn-offs and make the girls qualify them selves to you
- i specifcally put that i wanted 18-25 year olds but that there are exceptions to every rule & i didn't arbitrarily discriminate by age....the 26-34 year olds actually eat that shit up & try to prove to me that they are the exception! lolz

It's important to understand too, that my SMV is already high & i am only using POF to meet girls that wouldn't ordinarlity have the opportunity to encounter. I have a number of plates spinning right now, & most are not POF related.

SO my point is this - yes there are way too many bad cases on these sites, but POF is actually a great resource to both meet women & hone your game for the real world

Bullitt315 said...

Bumble is the most depressing of all of them. A bunch of attractive, in shape women with college degrees who chose careers over children and are in their early to mid 30's looking to find someone. I don't want to try and knock up at 35 year old. I wouldn't mind my future wife having her last kid at 35 but I'm not about to try having my first kid with one. It's the most depressing to me cause these are middle class women who did what they were told when they should have been told 'you have a biological clock'

Artisanal Toad said...

This is so ubiquitous that it's ripe for skewering by a red-pill comedian. I'm imagining Bill Burr doing a monologue on "What if women told the truth on their dating profiles?"

sysadmn said...

. "I am a single mother with five children." As if that is a lure?

When I see that or "my kids will always come first" I think "thanks for the warning! Next!"

MC227 said...

The funny part is that the women have a list a mile long of what they want and what they absolutely will not have and it is the most disgusting looking whores you can imagine. let me see if I have this right you work as a cashier at 7-11 and you are looking for a guy that makes 150k a year, at least 6' tall, no facial hair, no smoking, no player, must love dogs and cats, must love dining at expensive restaurants etc. Are you joking? Every profile states "I love to laugh" Ok I love to breath so what? So you want me to be your circus monkey? These women just about all of them are so delusional it is hard to believe they live in the same universe.

liberranter said...

The funny part is that the women have a list a mile long of what they want and what they absolutely will not have and it is the most disgusting looking whores you can imagine. let me see if I have this right you work as a cashier at 7-11 and you are looking for a guy that makes 150k a year, at least 6' tall, no facial hair, no smoking, no player, must love dogs and cats, must love dining at expensive restaurants etc. Are you joking? Every profile states "I love to laugh" Ok I love to breath so what? So you want me to be your circus monkey? These women just about all of them are so delusional it is hard to believe they live in the same universe.

Other than missing references to "tats" and "full-figured" (euphemism for "battleship-sized landwhale"), this is a perfect generic description of the under-40 American woman (AW) of the 21st Century.

Dexter said...

I got unsolicited emails from some of the ugliest, oldest and skankiest she-beasts imaginable. It was as if those ugly she-whales had no idea of their sexual market value.

They are going with the same strategy that low-value men use for online dating, and for the same reason: it is quick and easy, so why the hell not, what do you have to lose?

chris said...

It can't be that bad guys.

This study and article write up done on dating website data shows that a man in the bottom 10th percentile earns over $248 000, than a woman will prefer him over a man in the top 10th percentile in terms of looks and earning $60 000.

http://bigthink.com/dollars-and-sex/do-women-really-value-income-over-looks-in-a-mate

So if you are a 7, you just need to be above average successful to score yourself an 8 or 9. (make $100 000 a year instead of $60 000). This is easily within mid career pay range for someone with a college education.

Jackie DeLister said...

@MC227

Jerry Seinfeld did a bit about women who say they have to respect what a man does for a living enough though they themselves work at a slaughterhouse.

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