Monday, March 7, 2016

Why women will always be drawn to male spaces

It wasn't the question he was answering, but Rollo happens to answer it anyhow as he contemplates dominion-dependent sexual marketplace value of women, particularly as it relates to nerd spaces:
It’s really entertaining to see these guys try to outdo each other when a girl enters that nerd space with even the resemblance of an interest in something nerd related. That glimmer of interest is like throwing a starving man a cracker in the desert most times, and the more conventionally beautiful and sexy she is the greater the effort, or the greater the default despair is for them.

I’ve covered male idealism in a generic sense before, however that idealism (the unhealthy kind) when put in the context of a noble nerd’s fantasy girl – who shares his passions, is considerate of his borderline autism and appreciates his non-patriarchal deference to her – she either becomes something he obsesses over (severe ONEits) or she represents the despair that only an unreachable dream can stir in a man.

That said, semi-attractive gamer girls do exist (nothing more than an HB 7.5 by my reckoning), but most fall into the demographic of ostracized weird girl or semi-goth, fuscia-haired outcast who never clicked with the in-group girls in high school.

Nerd culture represents an environment where a girl’s otherness makes them a prized commodity. Girls who find nerd/gamer culture either on their own or via their ‘cool nerd’ (see Emo-Goth) boyfriend soon discover a social subset whose males pedestalize to an even greater degree than the prissy in-group bitch girls who ostracized them enjoy from men. In fact that pedestalization, that identification, that default deference and autonomous sublimation to the feminine is integral to the nerd culture. So when you combine a gamer girl’s nerd-niche SMP dominance with the overblown pedestalizing most nerds will elevate them to, it recreates gamer girls in the contextual likeness of the in-group girls they despised and never got along with.

Most top shelf gamer girls tend to hook up with the elite, usually Emo, guys in the subculture. The exact same intersexual dynamics remain, but the context changes. All of the fundamental aspects of Hypergamy and social ego inflation remain, but now within a domain dependent environment they can finally exercise their sexual strategies in ways they never could in the social set they’ve been cut away from.
That is why there will never be male spaces that are safe from female entrysm and subsequent invasion. The girls know that if they are the first ones in that space, they will get an SMP bonus due to proximity. This presents an incentive that the men in the space never realize until it is too late; they tend to believe that the women are there only because they genuinely share an interest.

But, as anyone who has paid attention knows, the women's interest in the space, whatever it is, is always secondary to the prime objective of getting involved with the highest-ranking inhabitants of the space.

39 comments:

En-sigma said...

The complete side-show oddity of all of this is the fact that "strong, independent" individuals, who need no help, are screeching to take things from other individuals without having to learn what it takes to create, organize or maintain those things.

"We want to be equal" but they want us to give that to them. No one gave men "The Patriachy," we cut it out of the wilderness. Why would women, who are just as capable as men (?), require that men give them something that men were never given? How would that equate as equality?

Feminism has been hacking away at authority since The Garden. I heard an african-american radio host tell his african-american audience, "if it's been 400 years and you have not won a game yet, then you cannot blame the other team." Third world countries have had centuries to develop a thriving nation, making crops thrive in the desert is not unheard of, but those third-world nations are still third-world nations.

This world was not won by the patriachy by screeching. It CANNOT be equalized by one side giving something to the otherside. In order to be equal, the "weaker vessel" must conquer by the same method. Otherwise, it is just women screeching for subsidy.

Timmy3 said...

Nerd spaces might have female entrysm, but invasion? That'a a little hard to imagine. They are already trying to get more female scientists and engineers without much success. So keep trying. The invasion results in drop outs. Another thing, nerds welcome it because it is so rare. Just like "Mars wants women" so do nerd. They'll be happy to keep them around as pets, although the women thinks it's the other way around.

Aeoli Pera said...

But, as anyone who has paid attention knows, the women's interest in the space, whatever it is, is always secondary to the prime objective of getting involved with the highest-ranking inhabitants of the space.

As it should be.

Cataline Sergius said...

These girls actually aren't that big on entryism. As they start to age, they immediately turn on the frost rays on any younger/prettier girls that attempt entry.

Their own daughters are allowed in but that's it. Don't believe me look at Worldcon or the SCA. There is a reason these domains are ruled by middle-aged hags. The hags in question used to be 7.5s themselves a few years ago.

Admittedly these spaces are Gamma Males enclaves to begin with so entryism was already a foregone conclusion. It was built in as a feature. Very shortly I expect the current generation of gamer girls, the Felcia Day's and the Morgan Webbs will start putting their foot down on any new girl trying to enter their space. Using the same mean girl tactics that were used against them.

1337kestrel said...

So essentially, open source software needs to have social spaces which act as firebreaks to keep entryists out. Like the IRC channels where people argue over which language is the best, but no actual coding takes place. The awkward flirting can be safely isolated from the actual activity.

Let's call this area dedicated to inclusion the "kitchen."

Dirtnapninja said...

I have found this occurs in three stages

The first stage are women who are actually interested. These women enter the space and are understanding and respectful of its rules. That said, they are very very rare.

The second are the entryists. Once a space becomes better known, it attracts more women with interest in the space. But these women are less interested in the space itself, and more interested in how it can benefit them socially. It is these women who start to change the culture of the space to make it easier to exploit.

The third are the destroyers..they are purely parasites. Once the entryists kick down the door, the parasites come in to feed. They have no interest in the culture, no respect for its rules and traditions and only want to plunder it.

Mr.MantraMan said...

Women are a mammalian herd species, their concerns are with hierarchy, the small battles are nearly non-stop. Your woman's last thought won't be of love it will be how she is up on that bitch Julie.

If you hate Game you hate women, if you love your woman you will improve your SMV.

Arnold Sigmanegger said...

Any time an HB9 wants to enter my D&D club, I pretty much just roll my eyes. She's usually just looking for the only non mouthbreather in the group. Me. I just isolate and escalate, since most of my gaming buddies wouldn't know what to do with hot woman flesh even with a natural 20 roll.

JiggleRogue said...

Any time an HB9 wants to enter my D&D club, I pretty much just roll my eyes.

The whole 10 point scale is, if not something I can actually demonstrate to be bogus, subject to a salvo of fairly serious criticisms. Where's the dimensionality? If you're serious about your RPG personas, you should be serious about how you build your estimations of women with whom you may or may not be hooking up with.

Arnold Sigmanegger said...

One of my proven negs is asking her if she'd say her alignment is lawful good or chaotic good. That will really tell you if she's DTF.

JiggleRogue said...

Keep away from any HB, no matter how high she rolls, who says she's chaotic neutral, though. Don't stick your dick in the ChaNeu. (I coined that)

Arnold Sigmanegger said...

Not to get too nerdy, "Jiggleboy" but if you can't handle that kind of HB maybe you need to "level up" capish?

Varanus Dread said...

I've got a stable of HB8-9's, not as good as back in the day when white wolf was at its peak...but there is still interest, as I am well known for my DM skills and complex mapping.

JiggleRogue said...

The babes I can handle. It's the endless legal consequences I'm warning guys about. There is a REALLY high chance, I'm talking 3/5, that a chick who says she's chaotic neutral is a lawyercunt.

Arnold Sigmanegger said...

With a name like Varanus Dread your stable probably gets milked once a day.

Poser Sigma

JiggleRogue said...

" complex mapping"

It's a fine line. Not complex enough and your friends get bored. Too complex and the HB can't follow? She gets bored, and all you have is a lingering warmth on the side of your thigh, from where she was sitting beside you on the floor pillows.

Varanus Dread said...

That's typical gamma gamer talk spooganator, you obviously clueless when it comes to Latin. If I wasn't a sigma, I would probably care what you thought.

Arnold Sigmanegger said...

I got a lounge singer chick all hot and bothered in Singapore on a business trip to set up my subsidiary corporations way back when. Couldn't get her to stay off my Wang the whole time I was there. I told her to bring her friend who was bi but she wouldn't share me. Who can blame her?

JiggleRogue said...

Now AZNs are chicks I don't want to handle. Voice like a backwards record, and IT NEVER ENDS.

Varanus Dread said...

problem with Asians is, a half hour after you eat them, you gotta do it again, and their ax hop is purple.

Arnold Sigmanegger said...

AZN cosplay is legit though.

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JiggleRogue said...

Disguising your race may be a legit tactic in gaming, but I don't hold with it in life.

Varanus Dread said...

yeah, just look at Rachel Dolezal

Arnold Sigmanegger said...

I'd hit that. She looks like a girlfriend I had back in the day. Damn sexual chocolate!

Michael Maier said...

What in THE HELL is going on in this thread?

Arnold Sigmanegger said...

Whoa Gamma boy. What's the matter? Can't run with the big dogs?

Aeoli Pera said...

What in THE HELL is going on in this thread?

I'm thinking I'll change my UN to PussySlayer666 so I can keep up with these studs.

Aeoli Pera said...

Because- and let it be proclaimed o'er the land- I currently hold the title for Most Sigma. Those who lust for the title must defeat me in a rap battle.

Cataline Sergius said...

Disguising your race may be a legit tactic in gaming, but I don't hold with it in life.

Disguising your race?

DISGUISING YOUR RACE?!?!?

How dare you sir!

How dare you even consider intimating that Rachel Dolezal or for that matter Shaun King is not a gloriously beautiful Black Woman. Your comments are antitransracialist, antitransgenderist and antitrans...gamist?

Anyway. Hang your head in shame!

VD said...

One of my proven negs is asking her if she'd say her alignment is lawful good or chaotic good. That will really tell you if she's DTF.

Now THAT is how it is done, noble sir.

Arnold Sigmanegger said...

Thanks I guess. Whoever you are. Anyways, I used that negative on the last girl who wanted unto our circle. She acted like she'd never heard of the alignment system. I nexted her pretty much on the spot. I had a blonde waiting for me back at my apartment anyway.

Nate said...

we need a database of every commenter that has ever self-applied the term sigma...

S1AL said...

But Nate, what would the comments be like without "sigmas" trying to AMOG Vox? Is that a world you want to live in?

Cataline Sergius said...

Don't try to understand them Nate.

"They are Sigmas. This is just their way."

Quadko said...

Reminds me of one of my favorite Gamers: Dorkness Rising scenes, where the girl they convinced to try gaming with them walks into the gaming store and the all male population react in understated shock and adoration.

Cataline Sergius said...

Oh good lord I'd forgotten about that one

Yes, the sexual dynamics of The Gamers:Dorkness Rising easily covers this entire thread.

maniacprovost said...

I currently hold the title for Most Sigma

Man you sound ridiculous. I'm the most meticulous denying that I'm trying looking cool up in the thread in which you're posting coasting past the faster players in the game of D&D rolling hardcore. I get get em jumping like it's parkour in the dungeon cuz my threads silk- and I ganked all of the dread ilk.
Shame upon your minimaxing acting like we're asking who's a Sigma on his stat sheet. Man I got your rap beat; I can rhyme in time to beat a crit roll from a math geek, make the DM drop the rule book like a Large Axe; I'm superfluous in verse like Gary Gygax.

Dr Schwollenpecker said...

I'm one-fourth omega, two-fifths delta, one-fifth beta, and I'm still nailing down the exact ratios but I think its one-twentieth alpha and one-tenth Sigma. Or maybe that's exactly how one describes a full Sigma. We are very complex individuals.

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