Why would a woman pay for sex when they can walk into any bar and get it for free?', is a classic male response to this topic.In other words, they'd rather pay for ALPHA sex than get BETA sex and all the associated material goodies for free.
Well, that’s highly contingent on how old you are, how good you look, which bar you walk into and, crucially, how fussy you are. Most females are very fussy indeed. We don’t want sex with anybody, we want sex with someone we’d like to have sex with.
Apps like Tinder are popular with women as well as men because she can see what she’s getting but they have drawbacks....
'You get what you pay for,' said one 37-year-old woman, who didn’t want to be named but has a twice monthly set appointment with the same male escort. 'Women’s sexual systems are complicated. My guy’s highly skilled at what he does. I’ve tried Tinder and the sex was rubbish. The guys haven’t the foggiest of what women need to orgasm and get offended and huffy if you dare to guide them.'
The quality of sex on offer appears to be one of the main appeals of hiring an escort - and the more ‘me sex’ is it, the better.
Wednesday, May 27, 2015
Women pay for Alpha
Any last remaining doubts about the reality of Game and the Socio-Sexual hierarchy should be eliminated by the behavior of female prostitute-users:
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I love how men who pay for sex are considered sad, lonely and pathetic losers, yet women who do may be lonely, but they're empowered!
'In other words, they'd rather pay for ALPHA sex than get BETA sex and all the associated material goodies for free. '
They'd rather have 'me sex' and pay for it than 'you sex' and secure commitment. That to me is exhibit A of a low value woman.
Yes, what One Fat Oz Guy said above ^.
Arguably it's even more pathetic for women to pay for it, since, as the article points out, ostensibly they can get it for free.
When I was at school in England I had a friend, the son of a Canadian diplomat, who worked weekends as a male escort. He was tall, burly, with superhero good looks. We played rugby together. He advertised his services on the back page of one of those free newspapers. At weekends he would go down to London and go on 'dates' with older women. He told me a few stories. Not all of the women he 'dated' were bad looking, he claimed, they just needed attention from a (young) man.
Yeah it's important to also focus on what the woman brings to the table as opposed to only looking at the man's appearance.
What with all the market prices floating around, there's a paper to be written quantifying the economic value of SMV for both men and women. In a world of female purchasing power, a male 10 simply doesn't have to work for a living unless he feels like it. I'd like to know the corresponding salary he should be expecting for all the monetary and nonmonetary remuneration he receives for extending the pleasure of his company.
"You get what you pay for."
Not in the sexual market. It's been my experience that the best and most frequent sex I have ever had was initiated by women I didn't spend anything on.
>They'd rather have 'me sex' and pay for it than 'you sex' and secure commitment. That to me is exhibit A of a low value woman.
That's the thing though, they're making an economic decision. If the prime imperative is to raise children, and she already has a steady income, then the only thing she needs is a man's seed, and more discretionary income apparently means better seed. #R-selection
More discretionary income means she has more ability to choose men with no signallings of fatherhood. Cads, criminals, and drug addicts are her seed of choice rather than a man who would actually factor into the decision of raising his kids.
It's not so much if the guy is 'alpha' or not...it's if she finds him 'worthy' to be the sperm donor for her ultimate plan. If you want to know why poked holes in condoms or 'I guess I forgot to take my birth control' exist...that's why.
And they wonder why no good man wants them now.
I owned a taxi for five years and got to know a lot of whores. Some men saw them for the emotional connection and didn't even have sex with them. I've always know several PUAs and every one of them was a coward and whackjob, even the so-called "alphas." And every one of them paid for women. And all the male prostitutes I've known have been gay. Women paying for men? Vanishingly small. Always has been and always will be. It'll always be unattractive lonely wealthy older woman paying for handsome younger men - who aren't "alphas." I've got the experience on these things.
A highly skilled sex worker? It's just sex, but it helps to be attracted to the whore. She just can't get what she used to give away.
In terms of SMV women are far more repulsed by lower end men than men are by lower end women. What they are repulsed by is a question answered on these sorts of blogs, not necessarily looks etc. Im acutely aware around women not to show insecurity, given its seeping out of every pore in my body this has meant I simply avoid it. I know I will be judged and I can't get my head round how to develop the applied charisma stuff when I struggle socially generally. Lack of confidence in men is effectively a micro-aggression against womens need to feel secure. Your lack of confidence unnerves her. Although Ive also noticed some like to turn the knife in when sensing insecurity, particularly if they are less attractive.
Noteworthy in the article that Oz was bi-sexual, surely that would be off putting to most women?
Apps like Tinder are popular with women as well as men because she can see what she’s getting but they have drawbacks.
Users complain that most people look nothing like the picture they’ve posted (or keep on walking past the meeting place after deciding you’re also guilty as charged), lots turn up drunk or are off-putting in personality, intelligence and (dare we say it) class.
This is hilarious. Men's complaints on Tinder are primarily about fatties with out-of-date pictures. Women's complaints are about awkward Gammas and Deltas who happen to look good.
@Bob Wallace
I owned a taxi for five years and got to know a lot of whores. Some men saw them for the emotional connection and didn't even have sex with them.
Gammas.
I've always know several PUAs and every one of them was a coward and whackjob, even the so-called "alphas." And every one of them paid for women.
Those are try-hards, not PUAs. Real PUAs don't look like PUAs, nor would they even tell you they are.
"Betas pay, alphas split, super-alphas profit." - Roissy
'Those are try-hards, not PUAs. Real PUAs don't look like PUAs, nor would they even tell you they are.'
If a PUA gets a woman in bed, but doesn't tell his bros about it after...did it really happen?
And they wonder why no good man wants them now.
Not really. They're not looking for "good men" (i.e., loyal beta-schlub providers). They're looking for "hawt" badboys, nearly all of whom have their pick of top-tier women and don't need to settle for desperate, well-worn hags. THAT is what the desperate bowsers are whining about: Badboy is too busy shagging 10s to be bothered with yesteryear's cast-offs.
Today's 'top-tier' woman becomes tomorrow's well-worn hag.
Ever since I put out my shingle as a male escort, I barely get any sleep.
Women define "good men" as marriage-minded alphas. The rest dont count.
>It'll always be unattractive lonely wealthy older woman paying for handsome younger men - who aren't "alphas."
Actually, I should have noticed that confound. Sure, these ladies would probably prefer the badboy, but the badboy isn't in this business. And since she's essentially looking for a human vibrator, she's probably going to prefer sexual technique over looks and youth so long as the human vibrator clears the youth and looks benchmark. So a 40 yo might be out regardless of technique, but a 25 yo 7-pt buck with good technique will get the nod over a 25 yo 9-pt buck with poor technique.
Claims that a gigolo couldn't be Alpha are irrelevant (and probably misusing the term), because we don't decide who is Alpha, women do. If a woman is paying a man to have sex with her, she's already defined him as Alpha in her mind. It doesn't matter whether we think he's a loser, or whether he's a diseased coke-head, or whether he's actually homosexual and pretending to be straight for the money. She sees him as Alpha, so she's willing to pay him for sex rather than have sex with a grateful Gamma who would buy her dinner and roses beforehand.
I don't think it's a coincidence that these washed-up has-beens are getting sexed by Lambdas. After all, they're the only dudes who 1) have had a lot of sexual experience, and 2) are used to sticking it in unappealing holes.
Among the straights, ALPHAs satisfy criterion #1 but not #2, whereas BETAs satisfy #2 but not #1.
Lambdas and black men, rather.
"I love how men who pay for sex are considered sad, lonely and pathetic losers, yet women who do may be lonely, but they're empowered!"
That seems to be the double standard on so many issues.
As far as prostitution goes- I think it would be better if it was legal everywhere. A lot of incels could really benefit from readily accessible sex without any stigma.
...because we don't decide who is Alpha, women do.
If this is true, then alpha doesn't objectively mean anything.
In other words, they'd rather pay for ALPHA sex than get BETA sex and all the associated material goodies for free.
Is it that or are these women paying for sex because "free" sex requires give and take? This way she can indulge her selfish streak and make the sex all about her without having the man lose interest and move on. She's paying for a flesh dildo.
From the article, it sounds like the women customers are quite alpha. They want control. This sounds like an interesting negotiation with the alpha escort.
Trust
"It's been my experience that the best and most frequent sex I have ever had was initiated by women I didn't spend anything on."
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Oh, but maybe a lot of unwanted drama, nagging, maybe even a false rape accusation.
One way or another you pay for your hole.
Eric
"She's paying for a flesh dildo."
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And we pay for flesh flesh lights.
Let's try and be fair about this stuff, OK?
It's what separates us from them.
The better female properly responds to the better male. That's not a fault in woman. There's supposed to be some 'choosiness' and demureness in females.
A combination of factors and influences induces the mass of modern females to imagine themselves above their league. In every way, females now are encouraged and enabled in youth to pass over the guys they'd have married in healthy cultures. Our times and spirit encourage many destructive delusions in females, which then obliterates fatherhood and families. Which is always the goal for some interests.
'Is it that or are these women paying for sex because "free" sex requires give and take?'
Yes it's about the love of money and not the love of another human. Because that means she would have to do some work and become vulnerable.
From the article, it sounds like the women customers are quite alpha. They want control. This sounds like an interesting negotiation with the alpha escort.
This is where the alpha terminology can go off the tracks and why I stopped using it a year or two ago.
There's a mental confusion with alpha/beta/etc. It's not animal kingdom definition. It's not something that can be used with women (as in, alpha man/alpha women have the same characteristics). The terminology can be helpful for broad strokes, but can lead folks down rabbit holes that go nowhere or confuse issues.
The women are more likely low value (Sexual or Marriage). High value women still attract the attention of all men and can pick the higher quality men.
These women think they're choices are among higher quality men, but likely aren't. This is why they no longer want to play "life is like a box of chocolates" with men and want the straight (ahem) fantasy of bedding "alpha men" (as noted, in their eyes/mind).
All of this is really just a side conversation from the main point.
Women, if frustrated with their choices, will lay down money and lay aside pretense and do whatever it takes to get what they feel is "alpha."
That's the takeaway. It is there for the taking, if you want it.
Personally, I don't buy that "alpha" is "top." Rather, I think it's simply a different role in society. It's not higher or lower than the other roles. It just fills different functions. As such, incorporating "alpha" characteristics can lead to benefits in male/female relations. Won't necessarily make you more successful at the job or closer to God.
So, instead of chasing the wisdom of AN internet alpha, telling you how to bed women, look to The Alpha for lessons on how to align your life and walk IN the world, but not OF the world. He provided the lessons on male/male relations, male/female relations, family relations, committing to a vision/mission, single purpose, etc.
But, yeah, women without God will abandon all that matters for what they perceive as enough "alpha" characteristics. And men, without God, will abandon all that matters for poon.
Women are trying very hard these days to be exactly like men. Women have heard that men use escorts, etc.
So they are trying to prove they can out-do the men. "Hey, we use escorts too!!"
Nothing to see here.
"You get what you pay for."
Not in the sexual market. It's been my experience that the best and most frequent sex I have ever had was initiated by women I didn't spend anything on.
@Trust: It's called barter, then. :)
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