Friday, November 21, 2014

Dr. Helen saw #GamerGate coming

It's related to a section of Men on Strike that was influenced by this blog. She writes:
Perhaps what the reader is observing in Gamergate and Shirtgate is that the geeks involved not only don’t have the social conditioning to “make nice” but that they have less to lose than conformists such as the media or feminists who need other women and men to join their worldview.

Women give them more trouble than they give to typical alpha guys and with fewer women available to them, it makes it less appealing to conform in order to get more women. What’s the point? In addition, as Vox points out, they have their games and other things that matter more to occupy their time and don’t need the reinforcement of the society (and women) to function in their world.
Games have long been an escape from women and social pressure for many young men, so it should surprise no one that they aren't particularly keen on seeing their retreat invaded by the very things from which they are escaping.

When people ask a gamma or an omega if he wouldn't rather be out and about "with a real girl" instead of playing games, they should first keep in mind what sort of "real girl" is probably on offer for him. And considering the alternatives, who can truly blame him if he looks at his choices and decides that games and porn are genuinely the better option.

30 comments:

Trust said...

Of course, the same women questioning why a man would rather play games than be with a "real woman" also think neglecting "real men" in favor of Twilight is perfectly fine.

b1bae96e-6447-11e3-b6bb-000f20980440 said...

Of course, the same women questioning why a man would rather play games than be with a "real woman" also think neglecting "real men" in favor of Twilight is perfectly fine.

That is because when women do it, it is out of self-discovery. On that topic, every time there is a new 50 Shades announcement my wife see it in her FB feed, which causes me to smirk because I envision what it would be like if men just casually posted about the next installment of Barely Legal, Big Breast Bohemians or Happy Endings Long Time or whatever.

Desiderius said...

Traditionally, Eveleth would have waited until Taylor married her to start humiliating him in public. At least now there's no chain on that ball.

Desiderius said...

Trust,

"...the same women...think..."

cite needed

Trust said...

@ Desiderius said... Trust,

cite needed
_______

Its based on observation only. Are women asked to provide a bibliography for everything they observe about men?

Jeff said...

Desiderius, why is a citation needed? Do your own life's experiences significantly differ from what Trust has pointed out? I immediately understood and agreed with his point. I'm genuinely curious as to why you think a citation would be needed.

Crowhill said...

And considering the alternatives, who can truly blame him if he looks at his choices and decides that games and porn are genuinely the better option.

Exactly, and it's a point that needs to be hammered into everyone's brain. We've created a "new woman" that no sane man wants to have anything to do with, and we're starting to reap the consequences. MGTOW is a rational response to the horror, but it's not a solution, and there will come a tipping point where, when enough men "go their own way," things will fall apart.

I know some people think that's the goal -- that once society starts to fall apart people will wise up -- but I think that's delusional.

Desiderius said...

"Desiderius, why is a citation needed?"

Guys, it's a joke. It's not thinking that those women are doing...

Trust said...

Except in the arena of studs/sluts, we do tend to stigmatize males more than females.

Example: MGTOW who choose not to have families are told to man up. Women who divorce shattering families and hurting kids are backed by the state.

Trust said...

@ "Desiderius


Gotcha. Apologies for not getting it. Stupid comments typed as serious statements by people like GG and yttik ad nauseam have made me question my detector.

PhantomZodak said...

i saw a news report on japanese hebivore men & the girl interviewing them was noticeably condescending to those men. she was so stupid she didn't realize that her attitude is why those men will never marry her. she didn't realize how powerless & useless she had become.

jimmy-jimbo said...

Would a real girl put out? I suppose that's the puzzle. The question answers itself.

Plus, a girl can't fake her intelligence to a geek. A geek learns to shut up when she argues her opinion. What point is female conversation?

So you can't bang her and you can't talk to her. What's left is games.

Cataline Sergius said...

I saw a headline this week that gave me near carnal pleasure.

Is Feminism About to Become Toxic?

The author of course viewed this as a bad thing but between #gamergate #shirtstorm and Time's list of words that should be banned, it might be an accurate thing.

Better still, I don't think the SJWs can stop themselves from destroying themselves. Thanks to Twitter and their own reflexive instincts, I don't think it's even possible.

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Rek. said...

MGTOW are predominantly educated whites. Blacks and latinos don't worry about this sort of thing, they just keep on procreating. Things will fall apart for us. Those savages, they are used to living in shitholes, called ghettos and favelas.

ray said...

"Games have long been an escape from women and social pressure for many young men, so it should surprise no one that they aren't particularly keen on seeing their retreat invaded by the very things from which they are escaping."


Sure. The matriarchy must pretend that there is no matriarchy. But American males are withdrawing from an utterly feminist culture that constantly creeps towards gender-tyranny . . . law, criminal justice, education, government, etc. They've watched The Horror take over during the past decades, and know that for American males, one can either become an Estrogen Enabler, or a target for the New Totalitarians. Folks want there to be a middle-ground, so that their lives can continue to be comfy and profitable in phat (if failing) Empire Amerika. But there is no middle ground, and these young men understand that. Education, marriage, the workplace, doesn't matter -- you will be FORCED to enable, or forced out. Usually by indirect or extra-legal means.

So seeking self-preservation, young men don't participate in a culture which despises and disenfranchises them.

Nice job again by Helen, pointing out the obvious realities, so hated by the equality supremacists.

Corvinus said...

I saw a headline this week that gave me near carnal pleasure.

Is Feminism About to Become Toxic?


@Cataline Sergius
I think this is the article you're talking about.

Doom said...

"And considering the alternatives, who can truly blame him if he looks at his choices and decides that games and porn are genuinely the better option. " Sometimes I think you are joking. And I do know guys like that, I guess... from what they say. I just, sometimes, have a hard time believing that is even possible. Sure, I'm single. And not seeing anyone, mostly. I do have my eye on a particular young lady, and think that might just happen. But, to be fair to me, I could be on the heart transplant list. My lack of steam, and speed, are... well past reasonable. Plus, I have reformed from cad to husband wanna-be... or... am working on it. Spooky, I know.

My guess is that Dr. Helen holds my inability to understand also. A bit fairly, in that women only see things from their side, almost ever. And a reasonably attractive woman never thinks about those she doesn't think about, quite thoughtlessly. I'm not sure why I have such a difficulty believing there are scads of such men, but... there it is.

Women are easy, even for an ugly man. You don't even have to be mean, or nasty, or weird. Just talk to them! Gah! They pretty much land themselves if you just throw them a hook. They WANT to be caught! Dying for it, they are. I just don't understand.

Retrenched said...

This, pretty much

https://twitter.com/jokeocracy/status/526027179357130753

evilwhitemalempire said...

On the issue of porn that has been brought up....

Frankly I'm quite disappointed at just how few of you, throughout this whole GG thing, have been able to work out for yourselves that feminists (obviously) want to control video games in order to keep them from being used as a platform for VR sex (a platform poised to take off like a Minuteman missile in just a few more years).

LP 999/Eliza said...

Good, maybe she can speak some sanity to this WRE annoyance.

Retrenched said...

@ Doom

No offense, but if women were really that easy, then there would be no demand or audience for blogs like AG, Heartiste, Roosh, Rational Male etc.

Retrenched said...

Or to put it another way, there is a subset of men for whom women are easy, and another subset of men for whom women are very difficult, if not impossible.

In the case of geeks, we have men who have grown accustomed to being universally rejected by women, and so they simply learn to live without them and not worry about winning their approval.

Corvinus said...

@Retrenched

I'd put it slightly differently. Getting with women is indeed easy, but it's not at all intuitive, especially in the current cultural PC whiteknighting climate.

To put it yet another way: you can bet there are lots of men who, after reading CH, Roosh, and/or AG, are doing a lot of headshaking, facepalming, and duh'ing to themselves.

The Master Distiller said...

@Corvinus

And to put it yet another way: most men could get with a women but would she be attractive or the one he wanted? Most likely not. As for reading CH, Roosh et al., yes, much facepalming. However, Game is like Brazilian Jiu Jitsu: you can study all the principles you like (and yes they're pretty simple to understand) but actually applying them in real life is another story. Especially when the Uke is fighting back. Women do the same thing by being unapproachable, shit tests, etc. BJJ and Game are easy to read and understand but take years of painful practice to master and internalize. It seems that a lot of these gamers don't think that the women they can get with Game are worth the effort.

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