Friday, September 19, 2014

Teach women not to rape

TIME observes that women rape men as often as men rape women:
For many feminists, questioning claims of rampant sexual violence in our society amounts to misogynist “rape denial.” However, if the CDC figures are to be taken at face value, then we must also conclude that, far from being a product of patriarchal violence against women, “rape culture” is a two-way street, with plenty of female perpetrators and male victims.

How could that be? After all, very few men in the CDC study were classified as victims of rape: 1.7 percent in their lifetime, and too few for a reliable estimate in the past year. But these numbers refer only to men who have been forced into anal sex or made to perform oral sex on another male. Nearly 7 percent of men, however, reported that at some point in their lives, they were “made to penetrate” another person—usually in reference to vaginal intercourse, receiving oral sex, or performing oral sex on a woman. This was not classified as rape, but as “other sexual violence.”

And now the real surprise: when asked about experiences in the last 12 months, men reported being “made to penetrate”—either by physical force or due to intoxication—at virtually the same rates as women reported rape (both 1.1 percent in 2010, and 1.7 and 1.6 respectively in 2011).

In other words, if being made to penetrate someone was counted as rape—and why shouldn’t it be?—then the headlines could have focused on a truly sensational CDC finding: that women rape men as often as men rape women.
I was a victim of a female rapist. Where was the candlelight vigil on my behalf? Why was she never prosecuted? There is clearly a female rape culture and a conspiracy of silence protecting the women rapists in our midst.

35 comments:

Kathy Farrelly said...

"Penetrative sex cannot happen without an erection. An erection does not happen without arousal (unless chemically induced). Being forced to have sex is not an atmosphere that is typical to induce arousal. The stress of the event would normally be enough to divert blood flow from your penis to other areas of your body (i.e. internal organs) as your brain uses it's survival instincts to prepare for a traumatic situation. As all men know, stress = no erection! "

" This simple fact makes a claim of being raped very hard to prove if penetrative sex took place"

You cannot have it both ways.. . Men claim they cannot get it up for unattractive women..

Makes sense..

"And now the real surprise: when asked about experiences in the last 12 months, men reported being “made to penetrate”—either by physical force or due to intoxication"

Rubbish! Intoxified men AND women deserve what they get!.. Put yourself in a vulnerable position? Your problem.

cailcorishev said...

Kathy, the point is they've defined "rape" down to the point where it's not special anymore, and it's not men who insisted on that. If regretting drunk sex is rape, then I guess I can claim to be raped. There was that one time that I met a girl at a party, based on a picture she emailed me that must have been at least 10 years and 50 pounds ago. After seeing her I had no intention of touching her, but she got me into a drinking game, and kept whispering in my ear about how hot this 18-year-old girl at the party was.... O God, the pain, I just can't talk about it.

Men claim they cannot get it up for unattractive women.

Any such men would be lying. Yes, it can be hard to get it up for an unattractive wife who openly resents sex and just lies there. But an unattractive girl who bites your ear and sticks her hand down your pants in a dark room while the room spins around you from the 12 shots of Goldschl├Ąger? Yeah, you can get it up for that. It's not like you're going to be looking at her face that much, after all.

Bob Wallace said...

Let's not forget all those female teachers who are attacking young boys, say 12-years-old. How can that not be defined as rape?

Peter said...

I was a victim of a female rapist.

You're so courageous. Your example is so empowering to the millions of until-now silent men like me who were also victims of a female rapist.

Booch Paradise said...

@Kathy
Thank you. I have been saying for a long time that it's not rape if she orgasms. It's good to know that I'm not alone.

For example, this is not rape:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfnFF8VVbrw

Vox said...

You cannot have it both ways.. . Men claim they cannot get it up for unattractive women..

An unconscious man has no idea if a woman is attractive or unattractive. Why are you such a rape apologist?

Cataline Sergius said...

Thank you for helping me finally face it.

I'm a survivor too, Vox.

I would never and I mean never have gone to bed with that one if I'd been sober.

Owen said...
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swiftfoxmark2 said...

Men claim that they don't get erections for unattractive women Kathy because they want to bang attractive women. It's a form of fat-shaming really.

The definition of rape is when one person has sex with another person without that person's consent. And the standard brought to us by feminist, who have codified it into law, is that if you are intoxicated and have sex, then it's rape. So if a woman takes advantage of a man while he is drunk and she is not, then she has raped him.

We are turning their own standards against them Kathy, Don't you see that?

Owen said...

Honestly, I had unwanted sex years ago. Stationed in Germany. I was hammered. My buddies and I would always go to the same clubs and there was always this one woman who hung on us but none of us wanted. She had the nastiest teeth.

Anyway, I was really hammered one night. She offered to drive me back to base. Instead, she drove me to her apartment. I pretty much blacked out. Awoke in a half-dream/half conscious state and we were mid-coutis with her on top.

Worst part? She gave me a hot shot. Clap. Had to get the penicillin shot after.

100% true.

The takeaway for me was 1) she had to know she had gonnorea and 2) she initiated unprotected sex, likely to get a baby from a GI. She was unsuccessful (honestly not sure if I finished) in getting a baby, but did leave me with her present.

Owen said...

Hey, Kathy, GFY.

Trust said...

Kathy, as a woman you don't understand how erections work. There are two stimulations, thought and physical. An unattractive woman it bitchy wife my not get man going just by looking at her or fantasizing, but she can arouse him physically. Physically, erections and ejaculations are involuntary. Which is why a passed out man can impregnate his rapist.

Best parallel I can think of for a woman is how many report orgasm during rape. That's an involuntary physical response like ejaculating. Just because a victim orgasms during rape wouldn't mean it isn't rape.

spastic0plastic said...

The truth is rape and sexual assault are just not a big deal in the age of promiscuity and abortion. Women have no honor to damage so the seriousness of the crime depends on injuries sustained. Instead of surpassing morality and the family "progressives" of course dialed back the clock to bring us to a state of savagery, "rape" makes little sense in the context of animal behavior

Nataliya Kochergova said...

All this sensationalism about "women raping men just as much as the opposite" is just perpetuating victimhood culture and eventually the feminist insistence that "men need feminism, too". Rape for everyone!

whoism3 said...

Vox,

Your courage in coming out and admitting you have been raped is commendable and awe inspiring! Men need to speak to 'take back the night'!

I too have also.... ... been raped.

By two women..

at the same time.

[Trigger Warning: read at your own peril]
http://whoism3.wordpress.com/2013/10/18/false-accusers-should-dragged-into-the-street-and-publicly-beaten/

Bob Wallace said...

"Best parallel I can think of for a woman is how many report orgasm during rape. "

I once read an article about an elderly woman who was being choked during an assault, and later told the cops she found it erotic and got aroused. Completely involuntary response.

Krul said...

TIME posting a story that goes against the "patriarchal rape culture" narrative, eh? I wonder if we're approaching the tipping point of feminism.

Feminism has had the run of the country for decades now, but leftists tend to consume their own kind over time. Like segregation and socialism before it, feminism may be headed for the chopping block. By this, I mean that it will no longer have mainstream credibility and tacit acceptance from the majority.

It's too soon to say.

Bike Bubba said...

It strikes me that if we're going to get anywhere in dealing with the various forms of sexual victimization, we've got to start differentiating between forcible rape, sex while intoxicated, unwanted sex achieved through psychological manipulation, and unwanted sex achieved through verbal threats. I would have to guess that the causes and results of each (and other factors) are very different.

And I feel SO deprived that I've never woken up next to something scary with a hangover and God knows what creepy crawlies on my genitals. I think I'll get over it....in time.

sigbouncer said...

"I was a victim of a female rapist. Where was the candlelight vigil on my behalf? "

We're currently working on getting a group discount for the candelight vigil. Hopefully you won't mind sharing the spotlight.

I can remember once working as a bartender about 20 years back now. Smaller establishment in a tiny town and the owners lived downstairs. Well one nite they had an outside party down at the gazebo, about a 10 minute walk from the bar. There was alcohol being self served at the gazebo. A little later in the nite a few of the girls who worked there would come up to the bar from downstairs giggling. Turns out one of their friends picked up a drunk guy at the gazebo and had him laid out on the bed with his pants down after she screwed him whilst he was passed out. I heard she basically had to help carry him into the house because he couldn't walk. So basically 4-5 girls were all perfectly fine with what their friend did. And these girls felt they were entitled to check out (and whatever else they were doing?) the naked passed out guy whenever they liked. One can't help but wonder what if the tables were turned and this was a used naked girl passed out being viewed and whatever else by 4-5 guys who would come up for air and the occasional giggles?

LibertyPortraits said...

Shedding a tear for Vox now.

Sean Carnegie said...

So, I'm trying to clarify this since I'm a bit muddled.

Men forced to insert and got hard whilst unconscious? He wanted it. Obviously.
Women orgasm during rape and get damp? RAAAAAAAPE!!!1!111!!!!

Got it. Thanks.

borderwalker said...

@Kathy Farelly: If any male here lectured you about your clitoris, vagina, or uterus, you'd laugh your head off and quite possibly abuse them for their presumption and ignorance.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! ROFLMAO! (I'll skip the abuse and go straight to the facts.)

"An erection does not happen without arousal (unless chemically induced).... You cannot have it both ways."

Ah, spoken with the ignorant certainty of someone without a prostate, who thinks men are simple, sexual machines.

Not only is an erection commonly reported by the victim in a male-on-male (anal) rape, it is often used by the assailant(during the inevitable post-assault transference) as evidence that the victim "enjoyed" it - just like a woman who lubricates and/or has an orgasm during a vaginal rape is often told she "wanted it".

"A study of 22 male-on-male rape victims by Nicholas Groth and Ann Burgess (1980) found that half of the victims maintained an erection throughout their assaults."
http://freethoughtblogs.com/hetpat/2014/09/11/the-flesh-is-weak-on-the-erection-equals-consent-rape-myth/

" "As part of her current research, Lees received a transcript from a heterosexual man who had been raped in prison. 'He reported it immediately, despite the fact that he was terrified,' she says. 'But because the man had got an erection during the attack, the judge stopped the case even going to jury - revealing how he saw rape as a sexual encounter rather than a form of violent humiliation'. "
http://www.theguardian.com/society/1999/mar/03/guardiansocietysupplement13

What if the man is asleep (the "morning wood" effect)? Does his erection give consent when he's unconscious?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/15/chantae-gilman-woman-rapes-man-seattle_n_5824456.html?&ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000067

If this study (mentioned in the linked article, using DOJ/FBI statistics) is to be taken seriously...
http://richardfelson.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/sex-assault-archives_onlinepdf.pdf
...then a 15-year-old male has a greater chance of being sexually assaulted than a woman over 40.

APL said...

Kathy Farraly: "An erection does not happen without arousal (unless chemically induced)."

Incorrect, Not many men haven't woken up in the morning with an erection. An erection occurs at frequently intervals through the night.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nocturnal_penile_tumescence

It is not inconceivable that a woman, should she so wish could 'take advantage' of a slumbering man, his dreams might be the source of his erection, as he was unconscious but she engaged in intercourse, technically she may have raped him.

It's probably the case that a man waking up to find his partner straddling or blowing him wouldn't be too perturbed. But technically, without explicit prior concent, it'd still be rape.

Ben Cohen said...

It's hard to believe you were a victim, Vox. Was she a freak of nature that arm-barred you in the dojo and forced you to bang her?

-FUBAR Nation Ben

Iowahine said...

It's hard to believe you were a victim, Vox.

I can only imagine the dilemma a man faces if his assailant attacks him orally. While he could possibly overpower her with force, her defensive reaction would probably punish him more. A thinking man would refrain, just as a woman with a knife to her throat would submit.

Daniel said...

That's sexist FUBAR Nation Ben, and just demonstrates your ignorance and submission in a matriarchal society. Way to blame the victim: that's exactly why men fall silent in the face of society's tacit approval of male rape. I bet he would have never suffered the crime of violence (doesn't matter if he was overpowered or not: all rape is violence) had it not been for our culture's obsession with female sports by way of bureaucratic good ol' girls clubs like Title IX running the show.

Now, victims like Vox have to spend the rest of their lives fearful that by the simple act of turning on the television, he might be subjected to seeing his attacker living free as a bird and being praised and paid by society to wear a pantsuit on the sideline of women's basketball.

Is the horror of it all sinking in for you yet?

If not, I'd suggest you start evolving before society finds no place for people with disgusting thoughts like yours.

Mindstorm said...

You are SO right, Kathy. Women NEVER get wet down there for a rapist... as if [obviously not from personal experience, duh]/

Kathy Farrelly said...

"Hey, Kathy, GFY"

Hey Owen! Thanks for the kind thought, but I have a husband who gives me a good regular seeing to! ;)

BTW, hope your hand is getting better, mate. :D

Anthony Ball said...

That may be sexist FUBAR Nation Ben, and demonstrates your ignorance and submission in a matriarchal society. Way to pin the consequence on the victim: that's exactly why men fall silent in the face of society's tacit approval of man rape. I bet he could have never suffered the crime regarding violence (doesn't matter if this individual was overpowered or not: all rape is violence) had it not been for our culture's obsession with female sports by means of bureaucratic good ol' girls golf clubs like Title IX running the show.

Now, victims like Vox need to spend the rest of their lives fearful that by the simple act of turning around the television, he might be afflicted by seeing his attacker living free as a bird and being praised in addition to paid by society to wear a pantsuit around the sideline of women's basketball.

Will be the horror of it all sinking in for you yet?

If not, I'd suggest you start increasing before society finds no place for those who have disgusting thoughts like yours.

Akulkis said...

"Penetrative sex cannot happen without an erection. An erection does not happen without arousal (unless chemically induced). Being forced to have sex is not an atmosphere that is typical to induce arousal. The stress of the event would normally be enough to divert blood flow from your penis to other areas of your body (i.e. internal organs) as your brain uses it's survival instincts to prepare for a traumatic situation. As all men know, stress = no erection! "

" This simple fact makes a claim of being raped very hard to prove if penetrative sex took place"

You cannot have it both ways.. . Men claim they cannot get it up for unattractive women..

Makes sense..

"And now the real surprise: when asked about experiences in the last 12 months, men reported being “made to penetrate”—either by physical force or due to intoxication"

Rubbish! Intoxified men AND women deserve what they get!.. Put yourself in a vulnerable position? Your problem.



Oh, so men ONLY get physically aroused when they want to? Really?
[Were you living under a rock during your high school years?]

And so waking up to find some woman riding me isn't rape?

Bullshit.

Akulkis said...

Kathy Ferelly, either you are one incredibly stupid cunt, or you are one evil bitch who I would have absolutely no qualms with executing......slowly.

Kathy Farrelly said...

Akulkis.. PLease don't. hurt. me! Slowly. backs away.. While calling 911.:-P

Kathy Farrelly said...

it's Farrelly , btw, mate..o_O

Human-Stupidity.com said...

Help! My 18 year old girl friend has raped me 298 times

This makes a point both that women rape men very frequently. By feminist rape definitions. Because they have no qualms to disrespect a NO.

On the other hand, by traditional forcible rape rape definition, there probably is not much female on male rape going on.

A blurry line would be a man that passed out totally, from alcohol. This could probably be rape by traditional definition.

It also is disgusting that men have to pay child support for the product of female rape. Birth control lies also are a form of rape, because the man has not consented to unprotected sex.


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