Wednesday, September 3, 2014

How Gamma males argue

John Scalzi likes to brag about how he's a master of rhetoric because he has a Bachelor's Degree in Philosophy of Language from the University of Chicago. Here is how he demonstrates that rhetorical mastery when various gamers have pointed out the obvious fact that Anita Sarkeesian, who has developed a little cottage industry out of complaining that there aren't enough women involved in the games she doesn't play, has completely failed to provide any convincing arguments to support her ramblings:
In the last couple of days, some dudes have tried to talk nonsense about @FemFreq to me here. Dudes, I SO don't have time for you. (1/2)

Your arguments are bullshit, you reek of fetid sexism, and also @FemFreq is fucking RIGHT. So, stop, already. You're not swaying me. (2/2)
Now remember, the First Law of Gamma is: Lie RELENTLESSLY to yourself. Observe that Scalzi is announcing that NO INFORMATION can possibly sway him from his chosen position. In doing so, he also announces that he is not capable of dialectic, he is one of those individuals that Aristotle described as the sort for whom "not even the possession of the exactest knowledge will make it easy for what we say to produce conviction. For argument based on knowledge implies instruction, and there are people whom one cannot instruct."

The Gamma cannot be instructed because he identifies with his delusions and any knowledge that does not conform to his preconceived delusions must therefore be rejected before it can threaten them. This is the primary difference between Delta and Gamma. Both Deltas and Gammas tend to be conflict-avoidant, but the Delta can be easily instructed. The Gamma cannot be.

21 comments:

Ben Cohen said...

Isn't being conflict avoidant desirable, considering that it is futile to actively try to change someone's mind? I can understand defending yourself against slander or ridiculous charges by crushing the accuser in front of a crowd though.

kbswift said...

He has no need to employ his vast rhetorical prowess here, when a couple of ad hominems and begging the question easily wins him this twitter battle of wits.

Rek. said...

@ Ben Cohen.

Scalzi's failing is not his unwillingness to engage in a subject for which he doesn't have much interest:

"In the last couple of days, some dudes have tried to talk nonsense about @FemFreq to me here. Dudes, I SO don't have time for you. (1/2)" although, his phrasing is too girly for my own liking.

But his defeatist and dismissive intellectual mindset that supposedly shows his deeper understanding of societal issues:

"Your arguments are bullshit, you reek of fetid sexism, and also @FemFreq is fucking RIGHT. So, stop, already. You're not swaying me. (2/2)"

Vox said...

Isn't being conflict avoidant desirable, considering that it is futile to actively try to change someone's mind?

It depends why you are avoiding the conflict. If it is your automatic go-to strategy as a male, you're guaranteed to remain low-status, because male status depends, in part, upon competitive success versus other men. If you're not willing to defend your own statements and positions, other men quickly come to hold you in contempt. And when men consider you contemptible, women tend to find you unattractive.

Cataline Sergius said...

Dudes, I SO don't have time for you.

Does the man take estrogen shots?

Keyword: Dude

If Scalzi uses that term with you. You are the enemy.

One of the cool guys from high school, who would almost instinctively, almost reflexively and without conscious volition give him a wedgie when passing him in the hallway. The Dude-Bros didn't enjoy doing it, they would rather not have gone anywhere near the disgusting little troll but it just had to be done.

Ah but Scalzi also remembers with pride the day he found a way to defeat the evil Dude-Bros.

"Ooo! Jokes on you! I just had an orgasm!" He squealed through the tears and butt hurt.

And young John Scalzi knew he had won, when the evil Dude-Bro reeled away in revulsion and disgust. Unwilling to touch something that unmanly ever again.

It's still his go to tactic

SarahsDaughter said...

And when men consider you contemptible, women tend to find you unattractive.

And untrustworthy and horribly repulsive. What a gamma defends in this manner is often known by the woman to be a lie or wrongheaded. She will hear rational statements and positions and though she may dig her heals in and deny their validity, inside she'll know she's been defeated. The man who concedes to or defends her illogical position has dramatically failed the shit test and is someone she knows is untrustworthy, being unwilling or unable to display wisdom or logic in his passive aggressiveness. A woman internally would much rather have a man consider what is being said and say to her, "they have a point and you are wrong." Men really need to understand that it is a tingle killer to hear a man call another man a sexist.

Eowyn said...

He talks like a teenage girl. All he left out was the #icanteven tag.

Kyle said...

Sarkeesian is a liar, a thief, and a slut. She is not a gamer. Scalzi should be ashamed of himself and his bitch-ass white knighting.

Joe A. said...

The damned cowardice of the man, though...

Salt said...

Scalzi stands barefoot in the middle of his lawn, his toes palpating the manicured grass, gazing at the driveway he once marveled at as the UPS driver skillfully backed his truck up. "All's well in my world," he thinks. "I am da man and I shall not be swayed."

SQT said...

Isn't being conflict avoidant desirable?

I'm not sure that's what he's going for here. If he wanted to avoid conflict he could just stay silent on the topic altogether. What he's really doing is aligning himself with one side with no actual argument to back up his stance and then running off yelling "la la la I can't hear you...." to anyone who wants a coherent conversation on the subject.

Tommy Hass said...

"Men really need to understand that it is a tingle killer to hear a man call another man a sexist."

Exactly.

Corvinus said...

Men really need to understand that it is a tingle killer to hear a man call another man a sexist.

When a woman calls a man a sexist, she's basically calling him a real man. So if Scalzi is calling a man a sexist...

Houston said...

"It depends why you are avoiding the conflict. If it is your automatic go-to strategy as a male, you're guaranteed to remain low-status, because male status depends, in part, upon competitive success versus other men."

Speaking as someone who spent years on the Delta/Gamma boundary, I confess that automatic conflict avoidance was a hard habit to break. It's extremely hard to make any progress unless you have a decent understanding of social hierarchy, the humility to learn its rules, and the courage to push back when someone else tests your boundaries. It's even harder for a man who didn't have a father in his life while growing up. You have to pity Scalzi for that reason, as despicable as he is.

JCclimber said...

probably not a tingle killer if you call another man a sexist, he replies "takes one to know one", you both laugh, high five each other.

frame control.

Desiderius said...

Vox,

"And when men consider you contemptible, women tend to find you unattractive."

Depends on which men. The better the woman, the better the man it takes.

Scalzi has obviously experienced this in the past from the receiving end, and is trying to work it the other direction. The better the woman, the less its working, as he's not much of a man.

FemHypocrisy said...

Ah, you talk like a fag, and your shit's all tarded.

-- Dr. Lexus, Idiocracy

Retrenched said...

"Observe that Scalzi is announcing that NO INFORMATION can possibly sway him from his chosen position."

So he's no really different from a religious fanatic.

Joshua_D said...

He is such a woman. I feel sorry for his daughter.

Michael Maier said...

I have sympathy for Gammas, having been a borderline case myself. But Scalzi... he seems to revel in being a pussy. It's scary how far the Rabbit Hole he scurries.

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