Friday, January 3, 2014

Alpha Mail: the magical tool

GG not only ignores the evidence of her own eyes, but insists that everyone else must do the same:
Forgive me VD, but you have the uncanny ability to come so close, so very close... and then to veer so far off into the abyss all one can do is watch you float away.

Women respond to whomever is in CHARGE. It has nothing to do with being attracted to sociopaths or sociopathic behavior. Our world, our culture, has put a whole lot of sociopaths in positions of authority. They aren't attractive because of the way they act, they're attractive because of the power they hold. If pirates ran the world, we'd love pirates. If nerds held all the cards, we'd love nerds.

The flip side of that for some women is the pity factor. We will lay down in the railroad tracks to try and "fix" a sociopath. It's not really sexual attraction, it's a symptom of female pride, we believe that our love and our sexuality should be powerful enough to cure what ails them. That's a small percent of the population, however. Most women are not that interested in martyrdom and the odds of getting yourself killed.
This is a load of complete horseshit. Women ALWAYS come up with some idiotic excuse to explain why what they are doing isn't what everyone can plainly see they are doing. It's as if GG has never seen a woman turn down dozens of perfectly decent, educated man with a decent job after another, only to volunteer for the role of sex toy for the first tattooed thug, drug addict, or criminal to show her any interest.

Is the unemployed guy who spends his days huffing paint in charge of anything? What is the guy sitting in a cell for the next 50 years in charge of? GG is simply doing what every woman does when confronted with the reality of her sex's behavior: she invents nonsensical fictions in an attempt to deflect criticism. Female behavior can be readily manipulated so long as one realizes that one of its primary motivating factors is the avoidance of criticism.

Now, it's entirely possible that GG doesn't happen to be drawn to sociopaths herself, but rather the socio-sexual dominance that sociopathy often emulates. But she does not speak for the 3.5 billion women on the planet. And this female solipsism is why no man should EVER listen to ANY woman about what another woman wants. Most women are provably unreliable with regards to their own sexual desires; they are totally useless with regards to any other woman's with the possible exception of their closest friends' favored types.

As several commentators observed yesterday, women are always in a hurry to fix sociopaths, criminals, and murderers, but they're considerably less interested in fixing the mentally handicapped, the physically handicapped, and the socially awkward. This tends to bely GG's insistence that it is the fixing process that is the female motivating factor. As does the fact that women's vaginas are not some sort of magical Black and Decker device; one can't help but notice that this selfless fixing on the part of women somehow always seems to involve resorting to the use of that remarkable tool.

70 comments:

cailcorishev said...

Heh, yeah, no girl ever wanted to fix my shyness or make me lose weight.

Good reminder on the uselessness of getting advice on women from other women. I think men often think that another woman will have greater insight, but if you want a second opinion, you're really better off asking another man. Even if he doesn't understand women all that well, he'll at least be able to give you an objective description of what's happening.

His Lordship said...

Yes, it is not unlike the tendency of men to attempt to "fix" these wicked, sociopathic women, who are the extreme majority of women, by means of sexual excitement.

Dex Banner said...

To all readers of this blog, I wish you a very Happy New Year! I hope 2014 is a good year for you, your family and your friends.

crazyivan498 said...

New pick up line to try. "hey baby bring that Black and Decker over here. I need a fixin"

4ab2dda0-3c27-11e3-9ef4-000f20980440 said...

Yeah, GG-

Why don't you use your Vag-O-Matic to instill some confidence in a successful but slightly geeky computer programmer who would treat you like gold? If you're so determined to fix someone, why not fix the fault in a good man instead of a bad one?

Answer: Because there is nothing, nothing, nothing, altruistic about women who date thuggish, sociopathic men.

Such women are more akin to rodeo cowboys who want to ride the bull with the most dangerous reputation. The cowboy who can stay on such a bull longer than the others is clearly more of a man than anyone else.

And the woman who can successfully navigate the pitfalls of dating a sociopath gets the ego stroke of knowing that her femininity and sexuality is a greater, more powerful force than all the other women who tried to tame the bull.

This, also, is why women don't care about a man's previous sex partner count. Who cares if you can ride a bull that has yet to buck-n-chuck off a few dozen cowboys?

Women want the glory that comes from climbing Mount Alpha, they don't want the ease of strolling up Beta Hill. Women want to strive, they want to break a sweat, in the emotional sense. They want battle scars of love.

Songs like "Hit Me with Your Best Shot" and "Love is a Battlefield" are not a lament of the dating scene, they are a celebration of it.

4ab2dda0-3c27-11e3-9ef4-000f20980440 said...

And by the way, GG, nothing I said should be taken as a criticism. It is merely empirical observation. If I were to criticism women for being that way, I would have to criticize them for having ten fingers. It is just the way they are made.

Men need to learn how to present such that those responses are triggered. Game is just makeup for a man's social face.

Trust said...

Just today, I read a story about a Nazi (literally) who has grabbed headlines over birthday cakes and custody battles for two of his children who are named Adolph Hitler and Eva Braun (Hitler's mistress). The man has 9 children with 5 women.

Five broken black and deckers I guess.

His Lordship said...

If I were to criticism women for being that way, I would have to criticize them for having ten fingers. It is just the way they are made.

Then it is God's fault, clearly.

JCclimber said...

I'm going to be smiling and laughing to myself all day thinking about the "Black & Decker" fixem' sociopath tool.

Just imagine the late-night informercials!

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- Trot out a hot looking woman -

Then you need the Black & Decker Socio-Fixinator! This hot little model here will cost you half of everything you own, which may not be very much, but she delivers regular doses of hot sex, shaming language, high drama outbursts, ultimatums.

Fine print: if this Black & Decker Socio-Fixinator works and manages to turn you into a normal office drone, she will be automatically returned to be sold to another buyer, with a restocking fee appropriate to your potential earning power.

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4ab2dda0-3c27-11e3-9ef4-000f20980440 said...

Nope. Fallen world. I can't criticize them for their drives. I can only criticize for the choices they make.

I can't criticize a man for wanting to bang as many hot young women as possible. I can only point out that it would be a sin to do so.

So, thug-loving women should basically stay single until they mature out of their pathological attraction impulses. If they do not want to be with a good, honorable beta male, so be it. Both of them would be miserable in the long term.

But, she should attempt to keep herself as undamaged as possible so that once she matures, she is still marriage worthy, instead of a banged-out scratch-n-dent special.

Crowhill said...

>Female behavior can be readily manipulated so long as one realizes that one of its primary motivating
>factors is the avoidance of criticism.

Okay, I admit I have a hard time with this one.

If I want to avoid criticism, I change my behavior so I'm not doing the things that provoke criticism.

Some people want to continue to do the behavior and then complain and moan about being criticized.

Vox said...

If I want to avoid criticism, I change my behavior so I'm not doing the things that provoke criticism.

So what? Are you a woman? Seriously, I do not understand the male inability to understand that women are not like them. Do you like to get pounded by big hairy men? No? All right. Then you should be capable of understanding that women have an intrinsically different perspective than you do.

I admit I have a hard time with this one.

How is it difficult to grasp? Every time you start to wonder why a woman doesn't do what you would do in her situation, ask yourself why the thought of Brad Pitt/Robert Pattinson/one of the kids from One Direction climbing on top of you doesn't get you excited. Then realize that you're being an idiot.

Some people want to continue to do the behavior and then complain and moan about being criticized.

Yes, obviously.

Crowhill said...

Women want to avoid criticism. Right. So do most people. I tend to avoid criticism by changing the behavior that caused it. Other people try to avoid criticism in other ways that don't make much sense to me.

Rushing to "male inability to understand that women are not like them" sounds more like "I have to defend dogma" than an actual reply to what I said.

4ab2dda0-3c27-11e3-9ef4-000f20980440 said...

Maybe it is that women want to avoid criticism from those whose criticism actually wounds their egos, but want to draw criticism from certain others, so as to gain the sympathy of the herd to which she wants to belong.

GG said...

"Female behavior can be readily manipulated so long as one realizes that one of its primary motivating
factors is the avoidance of criticism."

On what planet, VD? And who is trying to avoid the criticism here?

Expendable Faceless Minion said...

GG, It's nice of you to show up and post your perspective. You have to understand, though, that you aren't representative of your gender. You may very well think you are, but there are very few women who can stand to be criticized in a reply or two.

After being thoroughly called out on the headline by the site owner, you're still here arguing intelligently. The number of women who would do that is a microscopic percentage of the total. The vast majority would throw a tizzy, leave an acidic, venomous paragraph or two and leave permanently.

Your behavior is logical, knowledge seeking and rational enough that it casts doubt upon your really being female at all. Women in my experience just don't do that.

Beefy Levinson said...

They aren't attractive because of the way they act, they're attractive because of the power they hold.

That must be why Bill Gates is the man all women want and all the men want to be like... oh, wait.

His Lordship said...

So, thug-loving women should basically stay single until they mature out of their pathological attraction impulses. If they do not want to be with a good, honorable beta male, so be it. Both of them would be miserable in the long term.

But, she should attempt to keep herself as undamaged as possible so that once she matures, she is still marriage worthy, instead of a banged-out scratch-n-dent special.


Then your solution, it would seem, would be to lift up women's eyes to one, rather than to lower oneself to them.

What a quaint notion, that a woman can choose these things without a strong, dominant male to make the choice for her. The next you'll say is that such an intransigent, clearly mythological creature would make a far better wife!

Some Guy said...

"On what planet, VD?"

This one. I use techniques like this every day. Blog sites all over the internet teach it. Companies teach men how to do these things in exchange for money all over America and England. The fact that you don't like it doesn't mean it isn't real.

Retrenched said...

It's easier to lead a camel through the eye of a needle than to get a woman to admit what kind of man turns her on.

I'm sure every girl Roosh has ever bedded would tell you that she hates players, that game would never ever ever ever work on her in a million years, and all she really wants is a nice guy who will bring her flowers, take her to dinner and treat her like a princess.

Acksiom said...

>Okay, I admit I have a hard time with this one. If I want to avoid criticism, I change my behavior so I'm not doing the things that provoke criticism. Some people want to continue to do the behavior and then complain and moan about being criticized.

Solip Rating: a full 2.0 -- 6 personal pronouns over just 3 sentences.

Far from a record around here, but respectable, nevertheless.

GG said...

Good grief, men can't empathize with women at all, can they? It's rather startling to discover that. Men are simply incapable of perceiving the world through anything but their own eyes. The problem is, if you can't ever put yourself in women's shoes, you'll never know how much you are loved, how much you are needed, what value you have in the world.

That male solipsism, that self obsession, that's simply tragic. Subjectively women are dazzled by the magic of it all, hearing the music...... and some guy is feeling like a sociopath, rattling off jerk points in his head. Likely swallowing his guilt over being such an ass, too.

You are completely incapable of seeing yourselves through our eyes. That's awful.

Vox said...

Pathetic, GG. Your response is straight out of the female handbook: accuse the other party of what you are being accused of, regardless of whether it makes sense or not.

You're just projecting.

Vox said...

It's easier to lead a camel through the eye of a needle than to get a woman to admit what kind of man turns her on.

True. With the exception of a few virgins until married, I have met very few women who didn't say that she "hated" someone with whom she subsequently had sex.

Acksiom said...

>. . .if you can't ever put yourself in women's shoes, you'll never know how much you are loved, how much you are needed, what value you have in the world.

How much I am loved?

How much I am needed?

What value I have in the world?

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All right, I'm listening. Put yourself in my shoes first, and tell me.

Tell me how much I am loved by being sexually mutilated at birth.

Tell me how much I am needed in having a price tag put on my sexual flesh.

Tell me what value I have in the world when I'm less human than human.

Trust said...

GG, watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbeEuYAZFL4
Humorous exageration, true, but nonetheless how your average man feels women treat him in regard to the "bad men."

Do you empathize with the first guy, or do you explain away why 85% of women would be more wierded out by him than the other guy?

Trust said...

Also, guys, don't be too hard on GG. She really does not have a clue. It's in women's DNA to rationalize, turn the tables, make it about how they feel and your inablity to understand. It truly is difficult for women to take an objective look at what women actually do.

As to the why, it is in unrealistic of her to expect men to empathize and dissect why, since women do not understand the actions of women (including their own).

Expendable Faceless Minion said...

@GG:
"You are completely incapable of seeing yourselves through our eyes. That's awful."

Game is going through the scientific experimentation process of attracting and having sex with women. The entire point of game is to see ourselves through women's eyes.

The first rule of marketing is that what you think of your own product means absolutely nothing. The only thoughts that matter are the customer's thoughts. Advertising is all about getting the customer to think your product is a good investment.

Game is marketing and advertisement of men. Of course the men involved are seeing themselves through the women's eyes. That's the entire bloody point of the effort. Every last technique is about nothing but how women see men.

The awful part is about how men are finally able to see themselves through your eyes, and that women are just as stupid about sex as men.
And as easily manipulated.
And as clueless about themselves.
And as shallow, selfish and uncaring of others.
And just as big of self-deception artists.

GG said...

"Pathetic, GG. Your response is straight out of the female handbook: accuse the other party of what you are being accused of, regardless of whether it makes sense or not."

I accuse the other party of simply suffering a great deal, Vox. It's really awful to read these blogs and listen to all that pain and rejection and self blame.

lostsailor32 said...

I have met very few women who didn't say that she "hated" someone with whom she subsequently had sex.

That would describe several of my past girlfriends. I know when I hear a woman say "I hate you" with a pouty face that I'm hitting all the right buttons...

Krul said...

GG - I accuse the other party of simply suffering a great deal, Vox. It's really awful to read these blogs and listen to all that pain and rejection and self blame.

Umm... It's nice that you're such a sensitive soul and all, but you might want to reconsider expressing so much pity.

I mean, considering what you wrote before, people might get the idea that you're offering a... "fix".

tz said...

After a few times waking up in a gutter in a pool of vomit with no memories of how you got there, most men can make the association with excessive alcohol consumption.

After a few times waking up in a strange bed with various marks, pains, and ... I think you get the thrust of my argument ... most women are simply confused.

Men have the upper body strength, but it extends above the arms since they have to do the heavy lifting intellectually as well as physically.

Doorstop said...

"That male solipsism, that self obsession, that's simply tragic. Subjectively women are dazzled by the magic of it all, hearing the music...... and some guy is feeling like a sociopath, rattling off jerk points in his head. Likely swallowing his guilt over being such an ass, too." - GG

"I accuse the other party of simply suffering a great deal, Vox. It's really awful to read these blogs and listen to all that pain and rejection and self blame." - GG

"Somtimes you just have to slap a bitch when she gets hysterical" - Advice/observation I once received from a female bartender.

It really is tragic, GG, that some of us men are not natural, guilt-free sociopaths and wife beaters. It's a shame that we can't see ourselves through women's eyes and realize how much abuse many of you are willing to trade (and to forgo inflicting upon us) to get magical, musical gina tingles. Fortunately for me, I should be able skate by with the simple observation that a woman's respect and attraction towards me are usually inversely proportional to the politeness I show her.

Markku said...

Finnish joke: It doesn't buzz. It doesn't fit in your arse. What is it? Answer: A Russian arse buzzer.

This particular power tool seems to have about equal track record.

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Doorstop said...

OT- Markku, you probably also recall a power tool used by Russians but mastered by Finns, and especially by a particular Finn named Simo Häyhä. Rhymes with Mosin-Nagant, as I recall, and many of us freedom-loving American males have one like it leaning against a wall in our bedrooms.

kh123 said...

"It's really awful to read these blogs..."

It really is, in'it.

"...and listen to all that pain and rejection and self blame."

Offer them a pillow.

Doom said...

Depends a LOT on the woman, her background. While all are vulnerable to not knowing the difference between psychopath and top dog, those from a proper family, who are managed to marriage, have a better chance at picking between the two. (Not college girls, for the most part, by the way... College, for women is what public and even private school is for kids... parental dumping grounds). Yeah, a plug for homeschooling, you can thank me after hating on me.

Anyway, the thing is, once a woman has been on the carousel, she has learned the nitty gritty dirty low-down and seeks the psychopathy that she resembles, in man form, to complete her self destruction... and encourage it in her lover. You have to have been on both sides to see. Then again, you were Vox? Honestly? SB is married to a psycho? Really? See, that's my out. Well, and my own story, if I haven't found 'her' yet.

Albeit, as I have suggested, top dog and psychopath... share some... traits. Sometimes they ARE indistinguishable. I suppose one could just as much say that all top dogs are socio/psycho-paths. Which would make your statement true. But a top dog that is true to some given set of principles simply doesn't necessarily externally show guilt. Can't, to a degree. But that doesn't mean it doesn't exist, or that there is no actual difference. Like all women being sluts. Which I have no problem with as long as my slut is only a slut to me. I think you... are mistaken.

redpillpushers said...

Who cares what GG thinks? Or says?

Every Red Pill man knows how her story ends.

Steve said...

Poontang is her magical tool,
Used to fix so many a ghoul.
The more she fixes,
The more she drools,
Until she's left with a chain of fools.

Her carousel spins and the hamster within,
Assuages the doubts that come creeping in.
The more she doubts,
The more she rides,
Not to worry, some Herb will provide!

Now past the wall, she spins ever more,
Seeking a meaning for life as a whore.
The more she seeks,
The more she prats,
Only to end up eaten by cats.

GG said...

I'm glad so many of you fully understand men and women and have all the answers. Since you all are such experts, would you mind fixing a fallen world? I'm getting a bit tired of people having to scrape gray matter off walls and pry dead children off the sidewalks.

LL said...

GG, do you understand that you have gone from "we can fix you because we feel sorry for you and want to give you a good life" to "I feel sorry for you all because you have no empathy" to "You need to fix the world (and CHILDREN!!)" all in one thread? Please tell me you are self-aware enough to see how silly you sound because as a fellow woman to you, you're embarrassing yourself and the rest of us by trying to speak for us.

On topic here, I know a great guy, works hard, sweet, relatively good looking (tall, lean, about a 6 or 7), and just rolled over 31 years old. He just wants to meet a nice girl, get married, have kids. His last girlfriend left him 3 times for other guys, one of them being her baby daddy who just got out of jail. He's a gamma, for sure. And she took him for hundreds of dollars. He gave her a place to live for months, he supported her and her daughter, and he found out the last time that she was engaged to another man as she was coming over and needed a couple of hundred bucks to "move into an apartment sooner." She has a warrant out for her arrest for stealing back the engagement ring of the last dude because he snatched that shit back the second he caught on. I suspect she's back with baby daddy, unless he's in jail again.

You're spot on, Vox.

GG said...

LL, I don't appreciate having my words misunderstood, misquoted, and put into quotations. That kind of deceit is so predictably female, I became bored with it long ago. You did follow that stupidity with a pretty good suck up though, so congrats.

Yeah LL, I'm tired of dead children. Those are men's children, you moron. I'm tired of men throwing in the towel and splattering their brains about. I'm tired of broken women and dead children and miserable men. I'm tired of living in a world so full of collateral damage and wondering where the hell men's honor went.

Desert Cat said...

trust, that video is hilarious*! If y'all haven't watched it, scroll back.

*and tragically close to reality...

Desert Cat said...

Here:
Girls Are Assholes

LL said...

And yet you are doubling down on how it's all men's fault. If you are so disgusted by what is said on this webpage, perhaps you should use your incredibly easy-to-use option of not. reading. it.

I am not sucking up to Vox, by the way. He can either like me or not because as I've said repeatedly on VP, it's just the internet, but the reality is, I shared an anecdote of someone I know personally, an "honorable" man who has recently come across a woman which you imply does not exist or something. I'm not quite sure what your point is to all of this other than to whine about how sick you are of men killing themselves and dead children and.... Exactly what IS your point? That somehow loving & fucking a sociopath will make men less miserable, at least enough to not kill themselves or women or children because pity, pride, and vagina (but vagina not used because of our own sexual desire, only vagina used for its magical healing powers)? I am still lost on your logic and again, do not even pretend to speak for all women because there are quite a few of us who look out at other women and recognize our willingness to go with the bad boys for the thrill of it.

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All right, I'm listening. Put yourself in my shoes first, and tell me.

Tell me how much I am loved by being sexually mutilated at birth.

Tell me how much I am needed in having a price tag put on my sexual flesh.

Tell me what value I have in the world when I'm less human than human.

Aaaaaanytime this year, big mouth. Let's hear it. Come on, let's hear it, I'm still listening.

Bring it, you exploitive bigot.

His Lordship said...

I'm tired of living in a world so full of collateral damage and wondering where the hell men's honor went.

Honour, madame? Do remind me when what you now call "honour" was common among Man. Tell me when it was that uprightness of heart, and not fear nor blind custom nor immediate self-interest, ordered the lives of any but the most exceptional men.

What never existed cannot have gone anywhere.

His Lordship said...

Tell me how much I am loved by being sexually mutilated at birth.

Now, you see, I have many times wondered why Christians claim a god is loving who commanded sexual mutilation of an entire people.

GG said...

"And yet you are doubling down on how it's all men's fault..."

Again LL, you put words in my mouth that I did not say! Knock it off. It is not men's fault, it is the behavior of women like you that makes it nearly impossible for men and women to communicate. Naturally you will proceed to make sure I am misunderstood by dumbing down on the stupid even more.

"Tell me how much I am loved by being sexually mutilated at birth."

Apparently God gave the Arabs oil while demanding others cut off the tip of their tally wagers?

Life isn't fair or equal. Love isn't either.

Desert Cat said...

Responsibility for being understood is yours madam. It is plain that obfuscation is your goal however.

LL said...

Those are men's children, you moron. I'm tired of men throwing in the towel and splattering their brains about. I'm tired of broken women and dead children and miserable men. I'm tired of living in a world so full of collateral damage and wondering where the hell men's honor went.

Ok, then please explicate, GG, the above quote where you use the word "men" 4 times in lamentation of some sort of transgression where I think you are the only one who doesn't view this as blaming men. I don't want to put words in your mouth, so using your own words and asking for clarification, please, enlighten us all.

GG said...

"It is plain that obfuscation is your goal...."

If I were a man confronted with rejection, passed over in favor of an unemployed paint huffer, to protect both my male ego and my sense of responsibility, I would subscribe to this idea that women are simply sexually drawn to sociopaths. The truth, that I as a man cannot control the chaos of her choices, cannot protect her from herself, cannot even understand what is going on in her head, would leave me feeling powerless and out of control. Add to that a world where she holds all the cards and I would be desperately seeking some illusion of control. I would wonder why it seems as if the bad guys always win. I would start to study the bad guys, to attempt to emulate their behavior. As a man, my goal would be sexual conquest, rather than any desire to understand what motivates her. From a male perspective, what motivates her is irrelevant, possibly even important to ignore, because too much empathy would make sexual conquest uncomfortable. "Uncomfortable" because you can only perceive the situation through male eyes, you can only project yourself into a woman's reality as a man, and as a man being pursued sexually would feel as if you were prey, being sought after by a sociopath. So now you've defined yourselves as sociopaths, a rather negative term that somehow implies you are incapable of morality or emotion.

Maybe it's just me, but I've never know an unemployed alpha paint huffer. Drug addicts, cell mates, are in pain, are broken men. They are rarely sociopaths. I've know many women who have pursued them, not out of a selfless desire to cure them, but rather out of an attempt to elevate their own female feelings of inadequacy and powerlessness. It's an attempt to triumph hope over experience. Women pursue these men to attempt to cure them yes, but I never said it was selfless or successful.

GG said...

"...where you use the word "men" 4 times in lamentation of some sort of transgression.."

Am I correct to assume that we now live in a society where the word "men" is synonymous with "transgression"??

Sir Nemesis said...

GG: "Maybe it's just me, but I've never know an unemployed alpha paint huffer. Drug addicts, cell mates, are in pain, are broken men. They are rarely sociopaths. I've know many women who have pursued them, not out of a selfless desire to cure them, but rather out of an attempt to elevate their own female feelings of inadequacy and powerlessness. It's an attempt to triumph hope over experience. Women pursue these men to attempt to cure them yes, but I never said it was selfless or successful."

Remind me again how these men are in CHARGE?

LL said...

No, GG, I will repeat myself.

YOU said, "Those are men's children, you moron. I'm tired of men throwing in the towel and splattering their brains about. I'm tired of broken women and dead children and miserable men. I'm tired of living in a world so full of collateral damage and wondering where the hell men's honor went."

Then I specifically asked you to explain how this is not blaming men. If this is too difficult for you so that you have to handwave and muddy the issue, fine, but I was only giving you the opportunity to explain your words because you objected to my interpretation as putting words in your mouth and, according to you, furthering the reason why men and women cannot communicate.

I'll let the other commenters/readers judge for themselves whether I am the moron that you called me and whether it is I, and not you, who illustrates typical female behavior.

Again, how is that above quote not blaming men?





Trust said...

I would imagine GG is a decent, sincere person. Gievn that, a decent woman such as herself is here contradicting herself, rationalizing female tendencies, shaming men, etc. Relevant point being she like most women really doesn't understand why she does.what she does. The rest is the hamster trying to ex post factor rationalize.

This is why men who on paper look horrible have skills with women that to women and the common man seem lime magic. They understand what pushes buttons and are never confused by what women say or how logic dictates they should act. Keeping them off balance tingled them more than flowers and a surprise cruise.

Sir Nemesis said...

^ Especially this part: "wondering where the hell men's honor went." Can't see how it isn't blaming men.

His Lordship said...

Can't see how it isn't blaming men.

Yes, it is as fair to demand honour of men as it is to demand reason of women.

LL said...

Sir Nemesis, I suspect she thinks that passive phrasing of where it went, like it somehow dribbled down your legs when you pee, is not actually BLAMING you, but the active verb usage of you men "throwing in the towel" is blaming, pure & simple. But what do I know, I'm just a moron woman who dumbs down the stupid and makes things more difficult for men & women to communicate. I'm not sure how I'll go on in life having been judged thusly by an internet denizen. I'm off to be a typical woman and go have a good cry cuz she hurt my feeeeeelings.

Cheers, gentlemen!

GG said...

" Especially this part: "wondering where the hell men's honor went."

Not at all. I can see where it went. There is no payoff for being honorable. The only way to succeed in today's world is to emulate the lowest common denominator, the sociopaths and paint huffers. I got it. I don't blame men at all. It would be kind of insane to continue to do something that has no payoff.

"Yes, it is as fair to demand honour of men as it is to demand reason of women"

I demand nothing. I fully expect us to continue our race to the bottom.

Desert Cat said...

Drug addicts, cell mates, are in pain, are broken men. They are rarely sociopaths. I've know many women who have pursued them, not out of a selfless desire to cure them, but rather out of an attempt to elevate their own female feelings of inadequacy and powerlessness. It's an attempt to triumph hope over experience. Women pursue these men to attempt to cure them yes, but I never said it was selfless or successful.

Circling back then, are not physically or mentally handicapped men, and the socially awkward not also broken men in pain? What is it about their particular pain and brokenness that makes them repulsive to women's efforts to "elevate their own female feelings of inadequacy" and/or "attempts to triumph hope over experience"?

There is a gross disparity here. Why don't women pursue these men in an effort to fix them?

Your posts and explanations neatly skirt the main point.

Sir Nemesis said...

GG:

Thanks for clarifying. Fair enough.

GG said...

"There is a gross disparity here. Why don't women pursue these men in an effort to fix them?"

Because they aren't perceived as broken, meaning you can be a perfectly well adjusted guy with a mental health disorder. Some of the socially awkward can be pretty adorable. The physically handicapped can be very independent and well adjusted.

She needs somebody messed up enough so she can become really co-dependent and the only one in the whole world that can fix him, tame him, I suppose. She gets to pity him which robs him of his power, which keeps her in charge.

A lot of women are damaged before they even grow up. There are absent fathers, child sexual abuse, dishonorable boyfriends, feminists, a whole culture that creates damaged goods. You can believe she's just a helpless victim of her sexuality if you want, but that doesn't really tell the whole story. It also leads men to the wrong conclusion, like women's behavior is somehow their fault, like maybe if they acted more like a sociopath they could fix it.

Trust said...

Imagine a woman housebreaking a dog this way:
If he goes outside, she says "you're such a nice dog, now go lay down and leave me alone."
If he shits on her carpet, she says "you naughty boy you, here's a biscuit and me wants some cuddling."

This is pretty much how women end up getting shit on by bad boys, and why the nicer guys start misbehaving.

And no, it is not because they are kindhearted little snowflakes who just want to help. That's just what the hamster says.

mmaier2112 said...

Vox said...

It's easier to lead a camel through the eye of a needle than to get a woman to admit what kind of man turns her on.

True. With the exception of a few virgins until married, I have met very few women who didn't say that she "hated" someone with whom she subsequently had sex.


Vox... you're really NOT helping my inclination to slip into my own sociopathic tendencies with posts like this.

mmaier2112 said...

And she took him for hundreds of dollars.

Only HUNDREDS? She sounds like an amateur. Especially with inflation.

Desert Cat said...

"
Because they aren't perceived as broken, meaning you can be a perfectly well adjusted guy with a mental health disorder."


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