I did a seminar recently at the U of MN Duluth. It was my "Why Gen Y is Completely, Totally and Hopelessly Screwed" seminar. And while admittedly the seminar is not the politest or most adroit speech, when it came to the "What were you told you SHOULD like in the opposite sex" portion of the lecture, an interesting thing happened. I asked the young men in the audience what they found attractive in a woman. Not what they were told to like, but what they in fact did like.This illustrates the primary difference between ALPHA and BETA. It is fear. Women can sense male fear. They can practically smell it. They don't find it attractive, in fact, it is a distinct turn-off to them. They often despise it. However, this doesn't mean women are going to come right out and say that they are attracted to men who aren't afraid of them, or at the very least, signal that they are not afraid.
Not one of them answered.
OH, they KNEW the answers, their sheepish faces and smirks gave that away, but they couldn't answer for they feared what the repercussions would be.
Observing this phenomeon right in front of me, I took the opportunity to point out something so sad, but so very true. I said
"My god, look at how brainwashed they have you guys. You can't even speak the truth."
I then bellowed out the truth....
Now, remember, feelings are difficult to articulate, especially to the opposite sex, so it is often necessary to translate cross-sex statements. In this vein, we can decode what a woman means when she says the following:
So much of Game simply revolves around conquering your fear in order to behave more like the naturals who simply don't feel it for one reason or another. Whether it involves initial approaches or marital relations, fear is the sex killer.
It's understandable why so many men are afraid. Fear has been instilled in them by 16 years or more of relentless feminist propaganda in the educational system, in the ruthless reinforcing of the female imperative by their parents, their teachers, their pastors
But it's all a lie. Bad things are not going to happen if you refuse to avoid offending and upsetting women. You are not committing to living a monk-like existence devoid of female companionship if you fail to regularly kowtow to the female imperative, in fact, in case you haven't noticed, those of us whose default position is open contempt for that imperative tend to do considerably better with them than you do. And if you have reached the point where you are so fearful that you can't even admit that you find a long mane of wavy hair or a tight, well-formed female posterior to be attractive, you can't reasonably call yourself a man. You're nothing more than a sad, pathetic drone.
So stop being afraid. It isn't masculine. It isn't attractive. It isn't even Christian, for that matter. Conquer your fear, and that is the first step in developing Game and moving up the socio-sexual hierarchy.
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The SAS had it right from the beginning, Who Dares Wins. Every man should live by it.
Fear is the mind killer.
To the dark side , fear leads.
They've been beaten up and told their masculinity is evil all of their lives. They've been embroiled in a war against who they are.
Is the man than lays in the foxhole avoiding getting his brains blown out a coward? Or is that prudence? This crap was just starting when I was in college (a time when MTV still played rock music videos), so I don't know what their lives must be like under the feminist boot, so I can't judge whether their cowards or not.
Bad things are not going to happen if you refuse to avoid offending and upsetting women.
Right up until you're fired from work. Then it can get you blacklisted from ever applying for another job for a long time. (remember, Vox, when you pointed out this instance of offense leading to firing?)
SNL had it right so amend Vox up there: Bad things won't happen to you ONLY if you're good looking enough to get away with it. Your risk from offending is inversely proportional to your socio-sexual score. Even then, a lvl 10 man has a non-zero chance that he could come across a harpy with too much spare time on her hand...
It's surprising he was allowed on the UMD campus. Being the white male privileged sort that he is with all the Unfair Campaign nonsense going on up there.
And, yes, a brain washed audience for sure. That place was horrible.
I don't see anything to decode in the statement "I find confidence attractive." I believe it's more accurate than your alternate.
How to build confidence? Find something to be good at. Roissey wrote, "be interesting." The scriptures talk about being called.
This is a big reason the US Evangelical church rolled over for feminism and failed: it doesn't support its men to find their calling. So men have little to focus on except pedestalizing women.
"Find out what you're afraid of and go live there."
I used to be afraid of offending a woman...then I realized offending them is the best thing for me. It lets me know what I'm made of.
A couple of weeks ago, I made a terrible mistake with my 11 year old son. He had sassed me, mumbling under his breath and calling me "woman." As in, "I'm getting it, woman" when I told him to grab his coat after a fuss between us on how cold it was. Typical kid stuff. Anyway, as I'm yelling at him for the disrepect to ME as his MOTHER, I made the mistake of saying that saying that type of thing is offensive to women in general. He immediately says, "Oh, I'm sorry! I'm sorry to all women for that disrespect." I could so hear the school indoctrination of "respect for women because they're women" tone in his voice. I backtracked and I am going to be much more aware of how I phrase things to him from now on. He has to respect me because I'm his mother and yes, I am quite aware of what today's temperature is, not ALL women just because they are XX carriers. Some women don't deserve any respect at all and should never, EVER be deferred to or apologized to for their BS.
I don't see anything to decode in the statement "I find confidence attractive." I believe it's more accurate than your alternate.
You're wrong. A woman is not attracted to a man who is entirely confident about his skill in Call of Duty or even real-life sniping but is afraid to approach her.
It's not about confidence. It's about fear. That audience of young men didn't refuse to speak up out of a lack of confidence, they held their tongues out of fear.
"Oh, I'm sorry! I'm sorry to all women for that disrespect."
I'm totally going to steal that one for all of my future apologies.
I've come to find that along with keeping your eye on the Mission (i.e. - The Great Commission; following Christ by way of utilizing your gifts and talents), embracing your inner sociopath (if you've got one) is a great way to reduce fear.
So I always ask myself questions and "prod" myself along with stuff like, "Okay, so she left me with her drink to use the restroom. Why am I NOT guzzling it down?" or, "Why directly beeline towards her when I can slip in behind her and startle her somewhat? More amusing that way. For me."
For an introvertive-INTJ-delta-in-day-game-training, this has shown some interesting results.
LL,
I will take your word that he sassed you with that "Woman" and I completely agree that he needs to respect his mother. However, if he ever does this playfully or in a way that you should laugh instead of getting angry, I think that "woman" is something you should cultivate. Let him game you. It can be soooo much fun and what better way for him to learn about the nature of women than from you and his father?
"The diabolical thing about criminalizing male desire is that we're all guilty of it -- we run around on the lam, just waiting for some woman to drop the hammer on us." -- Zed
This is funny and true.
For fun, I taught as an adjunct to incoming freshman level courses. In spite of requiring four heavily sourced research papers plus one personal opinion piece that was graded on logic...in spite of requiring an in-class analysis of the subtext of a certain novel on the hidden drivers of European currency systems...in spite of relevant lectures on the socio-sexual hierarchy, and students ability to correctly identify their personal place in it, divided by sex (ponder what this encompasses)...in spite of requiring them to do a fair bit of math in a non-math related course...and in spite of the fact that most students, including upperclassmen who had put off the class, argued that my piddly-level class was by far the most challenging one they had taken so far...
I still had, for the department, record-setting evaluation scores, record-setting attendance and full enrollment every semester.
It had little to do with my ability. It had everything to do with operating without fear. Normal fearless behavior is an absolutely shocking thing on a college campus. They may as well call them fear factories.
Predictably, after I helped out there long enough to get a reputation, and to make it plain that I rather liked the way things worked in my classes, and didn't intend to change, my fully registered night classes were given to full-time faculty who couldn't seem to fill their own courses, and I have not been asked back.
I'm sure it had nothing to do with fear!
[Sidebar: in one of my history classes when I was in school, the professor went off on a little tangent about FDR's "Only thing to fear is fear itself" address. When he asked one of the students what he knew about it (don't remember the point, but it was a softball question), the kid said, "Uh, that we should fear the Germans?" The professor said, "Close!"]
PS - And yes, nearly all of the "in spites" that I brought up above were well-known to my deans. They confronted me about them on more than one occasion. The problem was that the student work stood on its own, and everyone knew it. Because I knew that the work and subject matter was relevant to the syllabus objectives as well as to the students, I never worried about getting "busted" for going off-script. I wrote the thing according to their rules.
I only fear GOD
Men were not created to be timid, weak, and full of fear:
... for God gave us a spirit not of fear but of power and love and self-control. 2 Timothy 1:7
Fear comes from the enemy. If you are Christian, you are required to conquer it. If you're not convinced, look at Revelation 21:8 and see who's first on the list of those destined to experience the second death.
Thou shalt honor thy mother and thy father...lest they beat the snot out of thee.
I don't see anything to decode in the statement "I find confidence attractive." I believe it's more accurate than your alternate.
You're wrong. A woman is not attracted to a man who is entirely confident about his skill in Call of Duty or even real-life sniping but is afraid to approach her.
It's not about confidence. It's about fear. That audience of young men didn't refuse to speak up out of a lack of confidence, they held their tongues out of fear.
I'm not wrong, you're just creating artificial distinctions. Of course being afraid to approach her is unattractive, b/c it's equivalent to saying he lacks confidence to approach her.
And if you want distinctions, then being "fearless" in the broadest sense of the term is not a requisite. I read an anecdote about Cael Sanderson wanting to get up close w/ a tornado, accompanied by his girlfriend and a buddy of his. As they approached one to a point of several hundred yards away, he paused and decided "I'm not going in there."
His girlfriend did not knock him for not being "fearless" in that instance.
I might have second thoughts if I were still in college. I've no doubt there are reeducation classes for undergraduates who vocalize those types of thoughts. Pick your spots.
I was in a stripclub once, and one of my friends told the strippers that I was a virgin, which I was. Those strippers wouldn't leave me alone. I mean it.
I was blushing and acting all uncomfortable when those strippers came near me. And this behaviour just seemed to egg them on.
I just kept on feeling more and more uncomfortable. They seemed to sense it, and the attention became even more brazen.
I couldn't understand this.
I still don't.
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The strippers saw their mark. Strippers operate like carnies, not women looking to satisfy their sexual urges.
As to op, I have to imagine women, and most especially college women, would have quickly volunteered answers. Tall, hair, rich.
In support of the notion that women are attracted to fearlessness:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHOEtcGoLdI
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Marellus, market prices develop from the interactions of buyers and sellers. Their knowledge of your status put a much greater potential price, and greater likelihood of a transaction, on their attentions.
Regarding the confidence/fearless discussion:
Might we say that confidence is an INNER disposition that may or may not be easily outwardly displayed
fearlessness is an OUTWARD display that can be interpreted as revealing a deep inner quality (it may be sociopathic or the good quality of confidence)
Women can only observe the OUTER actions, thus fearlessness is the better descriptor of attraction qualities to be developed
Fearlessness doesn't exist. If you don't have fear, you're not human.
Having fear does not mean fearfulness.
Fearlessness describes actions, not feelings, at least in this context.
the silence of those college boys is refracted throughout the whole kulture -- workplaces, courts, even families
telling boys the truth -- that they have been brainwashed, silenced, and emasculated by the gynocracy and its paid punks -- is definitely good stuff
the whole point of Der Matriarchy is to keep boys and men constantly terrorized and in fear of which word or look or gesture will bring down the wrath of the gynogulag and its goons
offering men Game to overcome their (correct and proper) fear of the Fempire is like forging a blade by sending it to a PUA seminar, and telling it over and over again Be sharp! Be bevelled!
peoples' characters are not altered at deep levels by clever theories, or talk, or practice techniques, or slick seminars by salesmen
character is altered (or not) like the sword, by passing through the fire of REAL adversity and oppression and strife, which usually takes many years, and typically decades to accomplish
course, people dont want that, they want to "develop" character and fearlessness instantaneously and easily, and well golly! wouldja lookit that, there are the Gamesters to tell young men the Short Cut is Here Now and available, if only they'd listen to the Gamesters and pretend they are what they are not
the confidence of a shorin ryu expert doesnt come from watching a martial arts movie, or imagining they have the skill and confidence of bruce lee
it comes from the thousand hours of sweaty decks in the dojo -- there is no real change in character w/o sacrifice
Game falsifies character, offering a kind of courage that is built on straw, perhaps useful for fooling a few girls into sex, but easily blown away when any real wind comes up, defaulting back to fear
character is not developed, nor gained, by pretending one has it
revrogers- If you choose to define terms that way, so be it. I think it's an unnecessary distinction.
I do think you bring up an interesting point that women are attracted to the demonstration of the fearlessness, with little concern or regard of whether its source is pos or neg.
character is altered (or not) like the sword, by passing through the fire of REAL adversity and oppression and strife, which usually takes many years, and typically decades to accomplish
Ray...where do you think those PUA seminar attendees (the ones who are serious about it) after they receive the instruction? To the silverware drawer?
We're not talking shoguns, here, man, but society. Adversity is anywhere you go.
"Fear comes from the enemy. If you are Christian, you are required to conquer it. If you're not convinced, look at Revelation 21:8 and see who's first on the list of those destined to experience the second death."
exactly, that's a great comment
God is masculinity itself, he's the one who instilled, in fact breathed, masculinity into male human beings and made men what they are, and he HATES it when men are too terrified to become men, to express masculinity for fear of repercussion from this anti-male world, and especially from satanic amerikan kulture
so, what is the aim of the Fempire, and of all its institutions and agents? to keep men constantly afraid (of females indvidually and collectively -- of rape and torture in their mancages, of losing our jobs, of having our sons stolen from us, of obie's little kidnapping schemes, on and on)
the baseline psychological state of the western male long ago became one of constant, low-level fear -- guys are just good at hiding it, esp the lefty/femmie males, who are the most cowardly of all
the Gulag thus AUTOMATICALLY separates us from our disgusted Father, who expects men to stand up to the thugs and liars and oppressors of this world -- whether this is Empowered Females individually, or their state/church institutions that instill constant fear in boys and men, and trade upon that terrorization
the U.S. Matriarchy blabbers endlessly about a global War on Terror, but she is the biggest Terrorist of all, and Father despises what she does to the sons of "her" nation
Marellus, market prices develop from the interactions of buyers and sellers. Their knowledge of your status put a much greater potential price, and greater likelihood of a transaction, on their attentions.
I don't know... Now, I shouldn't know anything about a show like Big Brother, but embarrassingly this isn't the case. I blame my mother and sister.
But anyway, on the previous season, there was a stripper in the house. There was also a Christian virgin who believed that sex was only for marriage.
The stripper was absolutely goddamned determined to take his virginity. Must have tried at least ten times. (Didn't succeed.) And there was obviously no money involved, since they were in the Big Brother house.
And he was the only guy there towards whom she showed any real sexual interest.
Markku: some creatures like staining innocence. Probably to dim the light shining on their own corruption.
Shortly, in the future, women may take the position that they like timid men and their unspoken reasoning may be that they present no threat to them.
Anyone paying attention will know that what they say and what they do are vastly different and therein lies the key.
telling boys the truth -- that they have been brainwashed, silenced, and emasculated by the gynocracy and its paid punks -- is definitely good stuff
Ages ago, when werethings lurked in the night, Lycan had a story where he was being nice to 7th grader he liked with no success. After a male teacher pointed out how that approach will never work with a woman he followed his advice which was game.
The population is becoming Balkanized in so many aspects. The divides between Left and Right, Men and Wimps, etc seem to be growing and those in the middle becoming fewer and fewer.
And might I say the Cap'n is doing the Lord's work.
"Fearlessness doesn't exist. If you don't have fear, you're not human."
Mike Tyson...a guy you would never think would be afraid had one of the best statements about it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khiiv19SVpI
Markku,
Trawling through some discussion forums, I found comments like these :
1)I've had sex with one virgin before and I had had sex plenty of times with this one guy (who actually used me..besides the point). I loved the stage fright he got, it made me feel like he was afraid of not making it perfect. And later in life i noticed that men who aren't virgins tend to take more than they give, but that night was something different. Considering I was new at sex 8 months before that, it was cool teaching someone how amazing it is. Plus for girls, we can train you to be good and to still reach your goal. Watch your face though, haha I have never seen such a silly face in my life! It was cute, but then i had to giggle inside. Don't feel awkward about your age either, if i could ever repeat the experience i would. Men tend to be the empowered ones in sex, for once i felt like the hot shot. Turn on? for sure..
2)Legit! I agree that it's easier to teach a guy to be good in bed if you take his virginity. I've had sex with several (and then a few more) men, and they all think they're GODS in bed. You try to tell them how to get you off, and they just keep doing what they want because they think they're awesome (because of all those girls who've faked an orgasm, no doubt- but it's a vicious circle, because even if you try to teach them, they still don't get it and you end up faking. You can't win!). When I slept with a virgin (lol, I say that like he was an "it"), I was literally having an orgasm every one or two minutes. I'm absolutely sure that the next girl he sleeps with will experience the same. He's also the first guy who's been able to give me a manual orgasm. Because he was so nervous, he did a lot of teasing before foreplay and I got off really fast. He learned that you can't just stick your hand down a girls pants before kissing her and shove your hand into her vagina and expect her to have an orgasm after twenty seconds of thrusting.
3)i feel like i own them after
4)OMG I WOULD LOVE TO TAKE AWAY A GUY'S V CARD!!! i would rock his fucking world upside down, sideways and all kinds of mind boggling shit that he will never forget and will leave him in a bliss. It will be his favorite story and memory to recall.
5)I'm guilty of taking the virginity of 3 different men (different times of my life). They never complained and always said they were glad it was with me. Weird enough I wasn't dating any of them! They were all friends that did't want to lose it to someone they would never know again or hate one day (an ex). I personally feel like I'm a lioness about to pounce on a gazelle because they were so nervous and I was so relaxed! I'm still friends with all 3 of them and my husband laughs about it whenever we see any of them! not cool! haha
There were comments where the women said it was a turnoff, but still ...
Fear has been instilled in them by 16 years or more of relentless feminist propaganda in the educational system, in the ruthless reinforcing of the female imperative by their parents, their teachers, their pastors
But it's all a lie. Bad things are not going to happen if you refuse to avoid offending and upsetting women.
Isn't this dependent on the environment the offending engagement occurs? ie: Pycon fail.
A better management of expectations, offend away, just prepare to face retaliation.
" Anyway, as I'm yelling at him for the disrepect to ME as his MOTHER, I made the mistake of saying that saying that type of thing is offensive to women in general."
Lol. Love that Team Woman. Team Woman is more important than your own SON. Elevate yourself. Elevate yourself.Gotta work together to keep men and infants down!Quick, a male child is saying something disrespectful in the presence of a woman. Every woman is a transmitter/amplifier of OPPRESHUNZ, therefore she is transmitting the OPPRESHUNZ to EVERY FEMALE HUMAN BEING ON EARTH. Why stop there? HE'Z OFFENDING WIMMINZ ON THE MOONZ AND IN OTHER SOLLARRR SPHEREZ!He's not making a remark to one woman for acting overly womanly, he's TOWERING HIS FUCKING ELEVEN YEAR OLD ASS OVER ALL WUMMUNKIND AND RAMBOING THEIR ASSES BACK TO THE KITCHENZZZZZZZ!!
"He immediately says, "Oh, I'm sorry! I'm sorry to all women for that disrespect." I could so hear the school indoctrination of "respect for women because they're women" tone in his voice. I backtracked and I am going to be much more aware of how I phrase things to him from now on."
And did you relay his apology to the rest of womankind with your sparkly magic girl brainwaves? I know you said they picked up the insult loud and clear, did you trouble yourself to relay his apology to "women in general"?
I preemptively apologize to all women on the earth,the moon, in Candyland, in other solar systems, if one woman sees this response and feels insulted by it and telepathically transmits her outrage to every one of you with her magic "wummun" powers.
It's not hard to figure out why modern women want to take a man's virginity. He'll remember her.
Other men she screws are using her and she knows it - but a man's first? At least that guy won't forget her.
Lol. Love that Team Woman. Team Woman is more important than your own SON.
Don't be a tard. She obviously meant that it's not just a particular quirk of hers that she doesn't want to be addressed as "woman" by a kid, but that any other woman would feel the same way if he said that.
He just misunderstood, due to public school indoctrination, that "women in general" meant some mystical concept of... womanity or whatever.
And he was the only guy there towards whom she showed any real sexual interest.
Sure, blame your mother and sister. I'll bet they held you down and made you watch.
She wants to be the one that Tim Tebow can't say no to. The fact that he can resist her doesn't sit well. If had been eager at the start she'd have been re-assured that she is hot stuff and shot him down.
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Fearlessness is the ability to acknowledge your fear, tuck it away, and continue to operate normally, not letting that fear corrupt your performance, attitude, or decision making.
Team Woman is more important than your own SON
No, but God's commands are and that would fall under #5.
"If had been eager at the start she'd have been re-assured that she is hot stuff and shot him down."
Yup.
The Elusive (True) Alpha
It is painfully obvious to a prudent observer that the female imperative has made men into limp-penis pussies, who pretend to be men. This is nothing new and has been in motion since the early 1990’s. Don’t believe me? Watch some early Andrew Dice Clay videos then compare them to some later videos and notice the dramatic difference in his routine (the later videos barely qualify as “comedy”). When I first saw him, I believed that he was a true Alpha: not caring what anyone thought and offending simply for the sake of offending. Unfortunately, his later videos showed him/her to be a simpering shemale, who accepts the female imperative like my dog accepts human food…lapping up every, last molecule.
Such is the case in America today – very, very, very few real Alphas out there. I would further say that even higher level Betas are going the way of the Wooly Mammoth. Oh, there are plenty of pretenders, posers, wanna-be’s, and just general fakers out there but very few genuine Alphas and Betas. We have all seen the handsome young man at the gym that has all the right moves and right attitude to be an Alpha – until his attractive girlfriend comes around. He then changes into an over-attentive, whipped shell of his former (wanna-be?) Alpha self – herding her around like a sheep dog. In other cases, following her around like a lost soul – longing for her attention and approval. You see the same thing in the grocery store – men following their women around like whipped dogs. They push the cart, listen to her endless (yes, I said “endless”) complaints about virtually everything. The prices are too high, the selection is too small, the check-out lines are too long, and any other frivolous complaint that comes to her bitchy brain. Speaking of bitchy, why are the above mentioned men present with their women in the first place? Aren’t women capable of working-out and shopping on their own? Why are the men there in the first place?
The answer is simple: real Alphas and Betas are not born – they are made. Made by fathers who learned to be men from their fathers and so on back to Adam himself! Today, however, fathers are driven from young boys’ lives by their mothers. Either through divorce or simply being excluded from the very beginning. They learn to please women to the exclusion of all else – even their own happiness. Thank you feminism for making America a better place!
This leads to our faux-Alphas and faux-Betas. They can “act” the part of being self-confident and cool – until an attractive woman comes around. They are then reduces to their real, self-doubting selves and waiting for some…any…modicum of approval from the female. Disgusting to watch, really. A young, handsome man – full of potential – groveling for female attention. The very definition of pathetic. As if poon is more important than self-respect and dignity.
I am here to tell you that it is not! Poon is the product of self-respect, dignity, and being a man, not the cause of these things. Poon does not make you cool and self-confident, rather, being self-confidence and having self-respect gets you poon.
Let’s face facts: women outnumber men in most places. Sooner or later, women will need men to fulfill their biological imperative: having children. That means sooner or later women will need to choose a man, have sex with him, and bear his child/children. Reader’s Digest version: time is on your side, gentlemen. Be patient and they will come to you! The more resources you have, the more women you will attract. How do you acquire these resources? Do not waste your time, money, or energy on women. Focus instead upon yourself.
It’s really that simple.
"the silence of those college boys is refracted throughout the whole kulture -- workplaces, courts, even families"
I've been thinking about this today. I had a conversation over lunch with a pastor regarding game and applying it to marital counseling - he brought it the subject of the number of couples who have been together for years and yet, they're either divorcing or living as roommates (usually miserable ones at that). We talked about the problem being twofold. First, men didn't act like men by leading their families and loving their wives as Christ loved the church and second, submission was a bad thing now. Ideally, a woman should never marry a man that she is unwilling or would ever be unwilling to submit to.
But the more I thought about it, something happened. Rather than get angry at feminists, I realized that these women were acting out of the same nature that Eve displayed in the garden when she belived Satan's lie of "you will be like God.".For whatever reason, God put that vulnerablelity in Eve and in turn her daughters too. They are accountable, but I can forgive them because they're made like that. It'a similar to someone getting made at a lion for eating a gazelle - it's what they do.
But, when I think about the young men at UMN and all young men of that age and younger, I get really angry. My son isn't much younger than those young guys and I have to ask about the messed up world he will inherit and I get really pissed at the gammanginas that empowered the feminists - the Alan Aldas, and the John Scalazis - the "men" who would call themselves "feminists" and side with enemies of manhood, family and God. Granted, as the men of my generation got our educations, worked hard and raised our families, we allowed these simpering little versions of Wormtongue to infiltrate our society, our houses of worship, and our workplaces and allowed then to effectively castrate us. So I say, "ENOUGH!". It's time to quit playing with the gamma rabbits, realize them for the soft, pasty enemies that they are and cry havoc and let slip the beagles of war. I never saw that more clearly than today. This is an idealogical struggle for the soul of our culture and the gammas are the traitors and should be as such.
should be treated as such.
The Lone Planet said...
Fearlessness doesn't exist. If you don't have fear, you're not human. ''''''''''''''''''''
it does exist
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Vox,
Bookmarking this one, great article.
"Do not waste your time, money, or energy on women. Focus instead upon yourself.
It’s really that simple."
Yeah but when I do focus on women it's for my amusement. The other guys are scared anything they say or do will offend her...and I'm laughing on the inside when I purposely say something offensive.
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Fear is natural, but a man will overcome the fear. A strong man regards fear as a challenge, not a thing to avoid.
In other words, if you're afraid of talking to women because you've been indoctrinated since birth... that's okay. It happens to a lot of folks. You didn't know any better. If you're here on this site, though, you know better now. It's pathological and you should fix it. Now, go do something about it. It's a challenge, face your fear. And, after some time of facing it, you will find you are not afraid anymore.
Sure, blame your mother and sister. I'll bet they held you down and made you watch
They uttered female imperatives, and I was compelled.
Vox: "It's understandable why so many men are afraid. Fear has been instilled in them by 16 years or more of relentless feminist propaganda in the educational system, in the ruthless reinforcing of the female imperative by their parents, their teachers, their pastors."
This is what Susan Walsh is calling "The Beta Lament". She's critical of men who point all this out, but then says:
"The Beta Lament, I’ve noticed, never asks the question, “What might I have done differently? Why did I ignore what was obvious and in front of my face for 10 full years? Why did I not learn through my constant mistakes and failures?”
"Until you take responsibility for yourself and stop blaming others for “killing the nice guy” you’re doomed to repeat the same mistakes over and over."
Susan doesn't think this kind of fear is understandable. She seems to think that betas should just "get over it" and "figure it out" from watching and imitating successful men.
It's not that simple.
Vox, you correctly note that young men receive 16 or more years of relentless indoctrination and education on the female imperative. Around the mid to late teens, and early 20s at the earliest, most men do have the presence of mind and sense of reality on the ground to question why what they do is failing.
But their social networks, churches, siblings and parents have ready made answers. What is done is to play on the male conditioning to know and follow rules, to follow set algorithms, and to appeal to the young man's sense of fairness, justice and obligation.
He is told there is one, and only one, right and effective way to do things. He is also told that his highest and best purpose is to serve others, women in particular. When it comes to sex, he is clearly told that his interests are plainly secondary to hers.
Most plainly, though, he's told that any deviation from the feminine imperative will result in crushing rejection, abject misery, lifelong unhappiness and deprivation. Young man, there is no other way to do it, you have to do it my way, I'm older than you and I know more than you, and if you don't do it my way, BAD. THINGS. WILL. BEFALL. YOU.
"You're obviously not being nice enough. You need to be nicer."
"Your sexual desires as a man are bad and evil and predatory."
"Your male desires are base and ignoble and corrupt. Her female desires are lofty and noble and pure."
"You will only hurt girls if you push them for sex. Girls' feelings and bodies are much more delicate and susceptible to injury than yours is."
"there is only one right and good and moral way to have any kind of physical intimacy and that is you must wait until she is ready for it, and she will tell you when she is ready."
"If you are not being a nice Christian boy then you are doing it wrong."
"Nice Christian boys do not push girls for physical intimacy."
"Yes, I know Johnny has a lot of success with women. But his personality isn't attractive to nice girls. This "game" business doesn't work on nice girls. He's a jerk, and he can only have sex with sluts and stupid girls. Only sluts and stupid girls have sex with men like Johnny. Now now, young deti, you don't want to be like Johnny do you? You don't want to be stuck with a stupid girl or a slut, do you?"
When told that Johnny is fucking his way through the "nice girls" you have known since kindergarten, Mom and Dad and teachers and others reply: "Well, then, Johnny is a bad man. He is dishonest. He is tricking those nice girls into having sex with him. Now now, young deti, you don't want to be a liar and a thief and an asshole do you?"
Well, uh, mom, yeah, kind of. It seems to work.
cont'd below
deti
cont'd from above:
"OH MY GOD!! My son is going to HELL!! My son is giving in to his base fleshly desires!!
"deti, you're playing with fire and you're gonna get burned. Sex is bad. Keep your d**k in your pants. Just don't do it."
"You will only get hurt."
"He is going to hurt women. Do you think God loves woman-hurting assholes? Do you think your mother and father will love men who are woman-hurting assholes?"
Women only like nice men. I'm your mother. I'm a woman and I married a nice guy.
I'm Mrs. Smith. I'm your teacher. I don't like jerks. I like nice guys. You want to be a nice guy and get a nice girl, don't you?
I'm Mrs. Jones, the secretary at the Mayor's office. I'm married to a nice guy. I don't like jerks.
I'm Jenny, the girl you've known since kindergarten. I've made a few mistakes but they were jerks. I just want a nice guy who will treat me right. And if you don't treat me right, I'll tell everyone what a prick you are just like I told everyone about what a prick Johnny is.
I'm Sally, your first girlfriend. I'm with you out of the goodness of my heart. I know you were damn lucky to get me. If we break up, I'll just get another guy. You, on the other hand, will never f*ck anyone at this high school again.
I'm Buffy, your first college girlfriend. I'm dating you because you're planning on medical school and I'm hoping to lock you down as a husband. I figure I sex you up every week or so that'll keep you glued to me. I can get other guys for sex. Unbeknownst to you I have had some sex here and there with some of your friends in the past couple of weeks, and they're better lovers than you are. I don't really care if you find out. If you break up with me, I'll be fine. But it took you months to find me, and if we break up, you'll be facing at the very least a months-long dry spell. You'll never get laid at this university again.
That's why the fear is there. Susan doesn't understand that he gets himself locked into one and only one way of thinking because everyone -- everyone -- around him is interested in preventing him from knowing anything other than what they tell him.
Susan also fails to acknowledge the fact that a man finds and participates in the manosphere and becomes a student of Game and the crimson arts indicates that he realizes he has been doing it wrong and is open to learning some other way of living his life.
deti
Susan glosses over the fact that Johnny's successes with women and the reasons for it are NOT obvious and are NOT in front of the beta's face.
The beta doesn't learn through his mistakes and failures because he is not being told or shown that what he's doing is a mistake or a failure. No, he's told he's going after the wrong kind of woman or she isn't ready or she's stupid or she's a slut. Or he is told that he must not have been nice enough and he needs to be nicer. Or he is told that to be nice he has to do whatever she (says she) wants and give her whatever she (says she) wants.
He is told to relate to a girl the same way he relates to men: To take what she says at face value; to believe everything she says; and that she says what she means and means what she says.
He is not told truths like
"most women are just not going to be attracted to you."
"confidence, dominance, fearlessness and displays of power are attractive to girls. Kindness, reverence, industriousness and fidelity are desirable but are NOT attractive."
"make her step into your frame; don't step into hers."
"make her qualify herself to you; don't qualify yourself to her."
He is being told he must DOUBLE DOWN on beta. He is told there simply is no other way to be with or relate to women.
deti
I'm late in my responses, but @Stingray, I normally laugh at boyness. I love that my boy is testing his man wings and I want him to be a MAN, not a male with womanly attributes. His response was couched as "Get off my back, I know better" and I could not let that stand. He is 11. I am 43. It was about 34 degrees. Yes, you need a coat to get out the door with me. Other than that, I would have brushed it off and let it just roll off my back. I am not a Sensitive Sally.
As for Anonymous and his analysis of my reaction, I said what I said unthinkingly, backtracked, and was well aware of what happened after his response and it made my skin crawl. You are more than welcome to pick apart my comment through your ridiculous "this is what I think she REALLY meant" glasses, but that says more about you than about me. And at least I have the cojones to use my blogging "name" versus a pansyass "anonymous" moniker. Which again says more about you than me. I would not have shared my story if I wasn't aware of how my reaction triggered an undesired reaction in him and I am consciously working towards not repeating that. So take what you will from my little anecdote. I can take the heat, even if it is frivlous, made up in your fevered mind heat.
GF Dad said...
"I had a conversation over lunch with a pastor regarding game and applying it to marital counseling...the more I thought about it... I realized that these women were acting out of the same nature that Eve displayed in the garden when she belived Satan's lie of "you will be like God.".For whatever reason, God put that vulnerablelity in Eve and in turn her daughters too. They are accountable, but I can forgive them because they're made like that. It'a similar to someone getting made at a lion for eating a gazelle - it's what they do."
I'm thinking that "fitness tests" and all the issues that go with it are part and parcel with "Eve" rebelling against the curse she came under, and where God placed her in the creation.
http://anorthernobserver.wordpress.com/2013/04/16/a-biblical-explanation-of-fitness-tests/
"So stop being afraid. It isn't masculine. It isn't attractive. It isn't even Christian, for that matter. Conquer your fear, and that is the first step in developing Game and moving up the socio-sexual hierarchy." - VD
Amen. Advice from the true Alphas:
Moses told the Israelites: “Be strong and courageous.” Moses told Joshua: “Be strong and courageous.” God told Joshua: “Be strong and very courageous.” The people told Joshua, “Only be strong and courageous!” Joshua told the people, “Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged. Be strong and courageous.” King David told Solomon: “Be strong and courageous.” King David tells us, “Be strong and take heart, all you who hope in the LORD.” Our Resurrected Lord told Paul, “Take courage!” Paul tells us: “Be on your guard; stand firm in the faith; be men of courage; be strong. Do everything in love.”
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