Saturday, November 5, 2011

BETA Fish

It would appear that hypergamy is everywhere:
IT'S not just women who can fake orgasms. Female brown trout do it too, to dupe potential partners into premature ejaculation. The trick may help females avoid mating with undesirable males or attract more partners, biologists suggest.

As courting pairs of brown trout prepare to spawn, both fish quiver violently with their mouths open. Usually eggs and sperm are then released simultaneously, to maximise the chances of fertilisation.

Sometimes, though, the female quivers without releasing her eggs. To investigate this behaviour, Erik Petersson and Torbjörn Järvi of Sweden's National Board of Fisheries watched trout in an aquarium, and found that females faked orgasms in 69 out of 117 couplings.

"The females behave as if they should spawn," says Järvi. "They trick the males into releasing their sperm".
The ruthlessness of the female gender is surprising discovery when one is a BETA. Women are to be programmed to nurture and care for their offspring, and a man's first interaction with women usually involves his mother. This, coupled with ignorance due to a lack of a ALPHA teacher, seems to cause some men to never realize how little woman's instincts care for his feelings. It seems that many men expect women to be as loving as their mothers, without considering the other side of the genetic coin. The attachment to the idea that women are inherently more loving and moral than men keeps many of those men stuck in a constant cycle of confusion regarding why girls act the way they do when they are no longer interested, or were never interested in the first place. This was certainly my experience: female ruthlessness had to be pointed out to me.

An important thing to remember is that those same instincts that drive a woman to nurture and protect her offspring even to the cost of her life come from the same place as ruthless hypergamy. Protecting her offspring does not start after they are born, it includes protecting them from weak genes. And if those instincts care little for a woman's life in favor of her offspring's, imagine how little those instincts care about rejecting lonely BETA after lonely BETA.

26 comments:

RVT said...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/10480597@N08/1796175631/

Look at this pathetic beta male.

SarahsDaughter said...

That might be a beta fish but he seems to have some lamda going on there, a dancing queen fo sho!

Love the post RM, I almost want to apologize for the truth of it...almost.

The BETA married men I know seem to have no conviction of what is right for their families. They will agree to whatever whim their wives come up with (going back to college for yet another degree, putting the babies in kiddy jail in order to pursue her career and fulfill herself, girls' night out etc.) While ALPHA's convictions aren't always on the right track, when they are, it's a done deal, no arguing about it, it's what will happen in their family.
I hardly see the point in men desiring women to prefer the BETA male. The most logical solution is for BETA men to utilize blogs like this in order to learn how to properly lead women.
(Side note, while I was typing we had a crazy earthquake. 2nd one now in a state that "doesn't have earthquakes.)

Trust said...

@: "a man's first interaction with women usually involves his mother. This, coupled with ignorance due to a lack of a ALPHA teacher, seems to cause some men to never realize how little woman's instincts care for his feelings."
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Not just the lack of a teacher because so many men are being raised by single mothers. The absence of the father in the home also keeps the sons from seeing how cruel their "loving and nurturing" mother would be to their father.

I never lived in a single mother home, and my dad certainly is not an alpha teacher. But it wasn't lost on me how this woman so nurturing to her son could be so cold and calculating to her husband.

So the lack of teaching is both due to the lack of a teach and lack of observation of the mother.

Trust said...

@SarahsDaughter said... The most logical solution is for BETA men to utilize blogs like this in order to learn how to properly lead women.
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Also of logical solution is to put an end to the force of government behind the whim of the wife. The force of government alone knocks quite a few points off a man's masculinity rating when he transitions from boyfriend to husband, and even more so as he becomes a father... unless of course he's the type of man who isn't concerned about losing his kids and funding his (soon to be ex-) wife's hypergamy.

It is amazing how much more strong, confident, and consequently attractive, a good dependable husband is when a wife stands to lose all he provides if she stops being his wife. Unfortunately, all she stands to lose are her obligations, while he is forced to keep his, which makes him seem weak and unappealing to her.

I know, government isn't the only thing that beats near alphas into barely-betas, but it is a huge problem.

SarahsDaughter said...

While I agree that it would wonderful for the government to get out of marriage and for women's suffrage to end, "near alphas" would be wise to devote all of their efforts to emulating true Alphas in their marriages without wavering. I disagree that it is the force of government that knocks a few points off a man's masculinity. It is their doubt in their Alphaness that does.
Women with strong, confident, dangerous, and audacious men stand to lose HIM to another high SMV woman and that is more than enough to keep her in her obligations.

Trust said...

@SarahsDaughter said... I disagree that it is the force of government that knocks a few points off a man's masculinity.
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While I agree with most of what you have written in the comments here, this is where I think you are off a bit.

While government is not the only thing that knocks a few points off the masculinity of men, it is certainly a factor, and a large one at that. Which is why women treat their men much better before marriage than after. Government gives women insane power over their men, which makes the men less attractive to them.

redlegben said...

A woman won't leave her husband for fear of loss (he might screw another hot woman) long before any excitement of gain (she gets half his money). That mentality is maintained by an Alpha.

If he's a fat slob with a dead end job, he's not Alpha. I wish Beta men would stop making excuses (i.e. the government). You don't need permission from the government to keep your wife satisfied and excited about you. It is sickening to me how much men, even here, look to blame someone or something else for their failures. Grow up and take responsibility for your weakness. Until you do that, you will be a whiner.

Anonymous said...

"While government is not the only thing that knocks a few points off the masculinity of men, it is certainly a factor, and a large one at that. Which is why women treat their men much better before marriage than after. Government gives women insane power over their men, which makes the men less attractive to them."

Cool Hand Luke. That is all.

SarahsDaughter said...

Trust: (sorry, even your moniker sounds a bit Beta) women that are qualified to be marriage material, do not even know what the government offers by means of divorce. They learn it over time by associating with feminist women, watching feminist television, working in feminist environments etc. A husband with Alpha characteristics will properly restrict all of these activities (by insulting it with jeers and laughter and a confidence that is unshakable). A Christian Alpha will recognize that if she does not already know the danger of feminism (and its detriment to the family), he will introduce it to her and guide her to God's will for their marriage/family. When I say guide, I do NOT mean speaking with her like a soft philosophical puke. Guiding her looks more like emotional abandonment and a nonchalant attitude. You express the facts, you do not waver, you neg, you make sure she's aware that her understanding of a Godly marriage is imperative but that understanding can not be given to her by you or anyone else, it has to be realized by her desire alone. You express that until she "gets" it, you are not concerned in the least if the marriage should end. You'll take your worst case scenario and move on (you are wise to make sure she knows moving on means moving on to younger, higher SMV females). You keep your posture with her.

I promise, if you can accomplish this with your wife without caving to your BETA temptations, you will be so blessed!

We (women) don't desire to treat our husbands worse after marriage than before, we just honestly desire that he keep the challenge going. It will benefit you in your career as well. There is no underestimating the benefits of men emulating the most Alpha behaviors they can. Similarly, there is no underestimating the benefits of women understanding and living the true role their creator intended for them.

Trust said...

@redlegben:

Excuse? Hardly. To point out the obvious that government is a damaging factor is not an excuse, it is an observable fact.

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@SarahsDaughter: "women that are qualified to be marriage material, do not even know what the government offers by means of divorce."

I don't see how one can seriously say considering how women have reacted when given what the government offers.
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@Trust: (sorry, even your moniker sounds a bit Beta)

That's funny. I've give you that, but it doesn't mean what you think it means.

My history with women has been quite a blessing. I feel no need to accomplish anything. I'm merely observing and advising, not seeking any because I'm pretty content with my life, my career, my marriage, and my children.

Trust said...

SarahsDaughter, I do have one question for you. Do men usually back off a disagreement when you insult their masculinity? Does that crap usually work for you?

I find it amusing how you say it would be wonderful if the government got out of marriage, then you quickly call the position beta. In other words, you say it is wrong because it is obvious, then you insult anyone who challenges it because you really like having the power. Say one thing, then do another.

This may surprise you, but I like you, SarahsDaughter. It's fun how I agreed with 95% of what you said, then you overreacted the 5% I disagreed with. I definitely do not think you are a man masquerading as a woman.

Stingray said...

Trust,

Purely anecdotal, I for one never new anything about what the government would offer me in a divorce until I started reading about game. I never cared. My husband could easily have the pick of the litter. Somehow he picked me. I do everything I can to make sure he continues to pick me. To someone in my situation, what the government offers is completely irrelevant as I want nothing to do with it. What I want is my alpha husband.

Trust said...

@Stingray said... Purely anecdotal, I for one never new anything about what the government would offer me in a divorce until I started reading about game. I never cared. My husband could easily have the pick of the litter. Somehow he picked me. I do everything I can to make sure he continues to pick me. To someone in my situation, what the government offers is completely irrelevant as I want nothing to do with it. What I want is my alpha husband.
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It's the typical, "because I'm not like that the whole premise is flawed" argument."

Under that logic, I would have argued the same thing you have argued. I've never been divorced, I've never been ass raped in divorce court, my wife treats me well, therefore since it has never happened to me it must not happen.

That's just not how the world works.

By all means, if you have an alpha husband, enjoy him. But just because you, as one person, have no interest in ass raping your husband in divorce court doesn't provide a justification for every woman having the the power to do so.

Imagine a man thinking it would be fine for rape to be legal since he has never raped anyone. That's how flawed the divorce law logic is.

SarahsDaughter said...

Trust, I apologize. I did not mean to insult your masculinity.

Trust said...

@SarahsDaughter said...
Trust, I apologize. I did not mean to insult your masculinity.
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No worries. I don't feel the least bit insulted personally. I'm having quite a bit of fun actually.

Stingray said...

Trust,

My comment to you was only a reaction to when you said this:


"I don't see how one can seriously say considering how women have reacted when given what the government offers."

How many of the women who seek out what the government has to offer were ever truly marriage material and how many of these women do you think were married to alpha males? OF COURSE what the government is doing to these men is heinous. It does not change the fact that if more men were alpha far fewer women would be going to the government in the first place.

Also, if I thought your premise was flawed why would I blatantly say my post was anecdotal? My point was that there are woman out there who never had a clue about what they could gain in divorce as it would never be enough compared to what they would lose.

Trust said...

@stingray

fair enough.

But consider your point here:

" It does not change the fact that if more men were alpha far fewer women would be going to the government in the first place. "

Fact is, women who marry betas know the man is not an alpha when they marry them. Saying she wouldn't go to the government if he were an alpha should be irrelevant.

It's like entering into a contract with a small business to build an office, then suing to still get paid without doing the work... and justifying it because "they wouldn't run to the government if the contractor was big business." Of course, they knew it wasn't big business when they signed the contract, but still want to keep the money and get out of the work.

It's fun to argue with female emotions sometimes, but it's also useless. So I dont' do it often.

Yohami said...

"Protecting her offspring does not start after they are born, it includes protecting them from weak genes."

Lovely.

Stingray said...

"should be irrelevant. "

A whole lot of things in this world should be irrelevant, Trust. Wishing does not change how things are. Men learning to become alpha would change things in their own personal lives and will completely circumvent any government bullsh*t.

"Fact is, women who marry betas know the man is not an alpha when they marry them. "

No, they don't. At least not on the surface they don't. They may realize that something is not quite right, but they have rationalized themselves to everything that is going on in that moment in time and have either blinded themselves to the fact that the man is not alpha or honest to goodness think they can change him. At the moment of the marriage they are sure they are in love with the man and when the beta doesn't change or gets worse, they then rationalize to themselves why they would do better divorced because they "love him but just aren't in love with him."

Most women can't tell you what they truly find attractive in a man and most women could not tell you if their husband is alpha or not. They only know how they feel. At the wedding they feel love. When it goes away they can't verbalize why, they just know the attraction is no longer there. A woman will most likely be able to point out to someone why a business is small and why the contract should be upheld. Women cannot do this when it comes to a man they are deeply attracted to, or not attracted to.

just visiting said...

I'll second that. Most women couldn't tell you what an alpha or a beta are, or what those traits are. They only know how they feel. Most would be clueless as to why they even feel what they feel. Sad, but all too often true.

Trust said...

Uncle Sam passes their niece a club and she quickly stops compromising and starts demanding, then she says "Club? What club? I didn't know I had a club."

It's hysterical.

Markku said...

Many of them might actually not have thought about it. It is enough that some are aware of it, so that they start behaving accordingly. Then others start to imitate them, although they don't know the original reason for the cultural change.

Markku said...

However, using the equivalent of the "man up" shaming language is not warranted. Having courage is compatible with picking your battles, and the government is a vastly superior opponent at present. It just makes sense to postpone marriage after the grand societal collapse.

Stingray said...

"Having courage is compatible with picking your battles,"

This is manning up. I am not trying to shame anyone. I don't think Sarah'sDaughter is either. Men don't want to marry and I don't blame them. As you said, pick your battles. Marry or don't. If a man does choose to marry he will fair better by bringing alpha to the table. In this day in age of marriage it is the only defense he has against the government and his wife. I simply suggest he use this power to the best of his ability.

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