Sunday, November 27, 2016

There is always a "them"

Rational Male observes how feminists are dependent upon cutting off young women from the herd using a largely imaginary revisionist history:
In femopshere there will always be an ‘us’. As I’ve outline in many prior essays, the Sisterhood will always take precedence above religion, politics, personal conviction and even family affiliations for women. Largely this is due to women’s evolved propensity for collectivism among their own sex. In our hunter gatherer beginnings women had an interdependent need for collective support for keeping tribal cohesion as well as child rearing.

This intrasexual collective support has carried over into what’s become the Sisterhood today. If you look at the interactions of young girls and their social group interdependence you begin to see that nascent tribal collectivism naturally come through. In terms of larger societal scope this collectivity becomes about acknowledging a shared experience of an imagined oppression by men. Between all women there is a gestalt understanding of “the plight of women” and a presumption of an endemic sexism no matter how culturally or socioeconomically dissimilar those women are.
The best way to attack this is not to surrender and abandon all women as the MGTOW do, but rather, to attack the feminist paradigms, deconstruct their propaganda, and save young women from it. Yes, there is risk in this, but there is absolute and certain defeat in "going your own way" to the grave as an evolutionary and civilizational dead end.

There will always be a "them". It is up to men to ensure young women that there will always be an "us" that is a more powerful and meaningful and attractive bond.

14 comments:

Laguna Beach Fogey said...

I imagine this is how, say, jews and Africans maintain cohesion and tribal collectivism while living in European societies.

Assess all risks intelligently and prudently. And examine alternatives. Keep in mind opportunity costs.

tz said...

Women have higher in-group preferences, so if you aren't in an area with a strong group of "Traditional" women (I'm in one), women will tend to become feminists.
Between the Mormons, Catholics, and Evangelicals, the women here have discovered they are happy being supported, having babies, and trading recipes and home-making tips. As well as comparing notes on the best CCW gun and AR-15 v.s. AK-47. But I live in an an area that is shockingly in touch with reality. Not a safe space.

Where in fantasy are the female Orcs and goblins? There is a feminist theme here if I'm right.

MATT said...

Pacific is a death swamp.

Muslims invading.

Women are all nasty whores....


Meh.

tz said...

@MATT - I don't think the women there are all Nasty, some are nice. I won't debate the second part. But that's why I moved.

Artisanal Toad said...

This behavior was recently placed on view for all to see, when a henfest of "Red Pill" Christian women bloggers went off the deep end. One of the heroic women bloggers was writing about her impending divorce after years of convincing all the other women of what a monster her husband is. One woman blogger took her to task, asking at the outset who filed, along with other truthful observations of how it will destroy her, ruin her children and there's no way she'll ever find a man as good as the one she's kicking to the curb.

Oh, how the hens got upset. And, as usually happens, the evidence has been swept up and put away. Almost. You can see what happened here: http://archive.is/hOdsV

All the girls piled on to heap abuse on her for upsetting the narrative. Another of them promptly blogged about the dissenter's ghastly behavior and searched around on other blogs to find "damaging" quotes. Most notable in understanding this is in the comments, where our truth-teller is referred to as a backstabber.

A backstabber.

In case that disappears, you can find it here: http://archive.is/TxRcF Truth be damned, one woman had the courage to wreck the narrative and team woman had to get its pound of flesh. Divorce is a negative sum game and in order for the woman to come out of it looking righteous, the man must be publicly identified as a monster. Especially when he's not.

There is so much more here than you might imagine, but suffice to say that once a man's "good Christian wife" decides to cut him off at the knees... the other married women will work together to make it happen and cover up her guilt.

praetorian said...

The best way to attack this is not to surrender and abandon all women as the MGTOW do, but rather, to attack the feminist paradigms, deconstruct their propaganda, and save young women from it. Yes, there is risk in this, but there is absolute and certain defeat in "going your own way" to the grave as an evolutionary and civilizational dead end.

Attacking is only effective if the male in question is in a position of authority over the female: typically either fathers or alphas saving women for lower-tier men. Do we see a lot of these? A delta or lower is going to be dismissed as an embittered loser.

This is a hard reality that needs to be faced up to. There is a reason that courting was a communal affair for the majority of human history.

In my more despairing moments I think that only war and want can renormalize intersexual relations.

Laguna Beach Fogey said...

In my more despairing moments I think that only war and want can renormalize intersexual relations.

This is a reason to celebrate, to be hopeful.

Think of the coming war as a reboot.

praetorian said...

Think of the coming war as a reboot.

I have three young boys. I accept it as necessary, but I don't share the enthusiasm.

papabear said...

I don't recall many women commenting in defense of JudgyB when she talked about her problems with her husband, but there were plenty of white knights there. How many "red-pilled women" blogs remain?

anonymos-coward said...

Largely this is due to women’s evolved propensity for collectivism among their own sex.

What?? What planet does this guy live on? Anybody who has ever spoken to women knows that women hate other women. There's no crueler den of spiders and backbiting than an all-woman workplace.

Undocumented Pharmacist said...

"I have three young boys."

I'm in the same situation. Much more difficult to hoist the black flag when you've got young ones to worry about. Not too interested in saving a society if my own sons won't benefit. P.S. Don't care if anyone thinks that's selfish.

Boko Harambe said...

It's only natural that women would jump to Jenny's defense (blogger from Artisanal Toads reply). They see themselves potentially mirrored in her situation. Women see themselves potentially mirrored in ANY situation...and as such must rationalize some way to live with it..or die, literally or figuratively it matters not.

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James said...

It's not about surrendering, and abandoning all women. It's about only accepting women on my terms, which means that I can't have anything to do with most women. And I say that if men want to be men then they can't have anything to do with most post modern women. The situation is such that men must be extremely selective, so selective that most men are qoing to get squeezed out, if you know what I mean. Some men are less needy of female companionship than others. If the men who are capable of doing without do so, then there will be that many more high quality women available for the men who'd rather not do without. MGTOW are not scraping any skin off the nose of men who want women, the opposite is the truth. I'm rather puzzled that so many otherwise intelligent people can't figure this out.

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