Monday, July 25, 2016

The motivations of a mudshark

A woman wonders why some white women subject themselves to the social rejection that inevitably accompanies mudsharking:
A young brunette and a dark-skinned man are strolling about downtown on a nice evening, looking idly into the storefront windows they walk past. It’s not what you think. I was meeting up for drinks with a group of coworkers and as it happened, most of us were running late except the above-mentioned brunette and the Black coworker of mine, who were not a couple. To kill time while waiting for the rest of the group, they walked around for a bit. Later, she described to me the shock of noticing people’s reactions to the sight of them as a presumed couple. She said that she’s never experienced that before: every person she passed either gave her dagger-looks or froze her out. “How can somebody choose to live that way?” she asked.
The question of whether the motivation for mudsharking is eugenic or psychological tends to depend upon the attractiveness of the woman involved. My feeling is that it largely depends upon the age and attractiveness of the woman involved.

The older and less attractive a woman is, the more likely it is that her motivation is essentially eugenic; she's trading down in race in order to trade up in fitness. A fat, 35-year-old white woman is going to be able to attract a much more physically fit and younger man if she goes black, after all, even though it means she is probably going to bear the financial burden for her children. That's an easily understood choice, particularly for the sort of low-IQ, short-time-preferenced women one sees choosing that option.

The younger a woman is, the more naive and malleable she is. She is highly aware of the drama that "breaking the taboo" will create, and all the attention it will draw, but she is unaware of, or at the very least, does not believe in, the heavy social price that she will pay over time. And why should she, when the media is constantly telling her that she is cool and morally superior and progressive, and even her parents are afraid to tell her the truth? Also, young girls are much more likely to be susceptible to the more aggressive "yeah, come on baby" low-IQ African forms of courtship than more experienced women, who find them ridiculous and repellent.

The more attractive the woman is, the more options she has. So, the attractive woman's decision to mudshark is much more likely to be purposeful, and therefore pathological in nature, unless she is quite young. The exception, of course, being the attractive white women who get involved with wealthy black celebrities, in which case they are usually just ruthless fame whores who didn't happen to land a white celebrity.

I saw a pair of mudsharks a few months ago, one with children, one without. They were the only two Europeans who were in the small African group at a town festival; the short, overweight mother looked downright depressed while the other woman, an attractive, but heavily tattooed blonde, was carrying herself in an extremely aggressive manner and was obviously hyperaware of the fact that people were looking at her in disapproval.

I could only conclude that some women are so desperate to stand out that they prefer social rejection and open contempt to the moderate amount of attention that their looks would otherwise command.

I very much doubt there are any studies available, but I hypothesize that mudsharks have much higher rates of divorce than women who do not miscegenate regardless of whether they eventually marry a man of their own race or not. It's even possible that the 100 percent higher rate of WF-BM divorce is not primarily a consequence of the interracial nature of the marriage or the higher rate of black infidelity, but rather, the psychologically problematic nature of the mudshark.

51 comments:

Keyser Soze said...

A new neighbor moved in a few years ago. Nice looking, great legs. She commented that she was glad to leave a, her words "white trash" neighborhood nearby. So far, so good. Then I saw her mixed race kids. Boner killer (sad!). A couple years pass, a little extra weight, but still respectable and now she is dating a dark mixed race dude with full on face tattoo's. Clearly not a case of "what was she thinking?", but "was she thinking at all?" I'm cordial with her, as a neighbor, but how could any white man want to take an interest......

Whisker biscuit said...

A couple of girls I went to high school with were known for burning da coal. Nowadays, they both have kids by multiple men, and are the most vile, snarky women you'll meet.

They also look rough; something about datting black dudes makes a woman age bad.

Gordon said...

Too many Newports and too much weed wear on a gal. I've noticed in a group of women in a black neighborhood, the white girls always defer to the black gals. They often have difficulty adapting to the "scream vulgarity at the top of your lungs" parenting style or the "play obscene rap at high volume" method of helping kids learn to read.

JP said...

I recall a couple of years ago when I worked at a large South African online media company, this chick put out a piece on how white women shouldn't knock having sex with black men because they were so "eager to please and aggressive". So about 15 comments down, a guy says to her "you know, it's all good and well you breaking the racial barriers, but that same black lover of your's has probably slept with at least 20 women in the informal settlement he calls home. So you're basically having sex with them too.". She stopped responding to comments after that and closed the comments down completely about 10 minutes later.

She was pissed for weeks. And I got to see her face every single day.

Human Animal said...

"play obscene rap at high volume" method of helping kids learn to read.

Ah, an optimist.

She said that she’s never experienced that before: every person she passed either gave her dagger-looks or froze her out. “How can somebody choose to live that way?” she asked.

Remember guys: This kind of narrative math is also happening for the white male / asian female couple.

but heavily tattooed blonde, was carrying herself in an extremely aggressive manner and was obviously hyperaware of the fact that people were looking at her in disapproval.

Another tragedy of feminism? Women trying to stand out from the tribe, not just other women, approaching the rates and degrees that men do.

will said...

Tiger Woods ex-wife has moved on to an interesting new suitor. Not what I expected but fits with this article.

Laguna Beach Fogey said...

I don't see many mudsharks around here, but the few I do are invariably fat and old. I've taken to pointing and laughing, and taking photos, some of which I used to post on Twitter.

En-sigma said...

I have a distant family friend that I have never seen, romantically speaking, with a white man. She is married and divorced twice - one black, the other native American. It seems to run in the family because her niece burned a lot of coal when she was younger but eventually married a white man. I think he knows about her past, but they are both Democrats, so I doubt it mattered to him. The propensity seems to flow in some families, even if the union seems abhorrent to the rest of the family.

The price of parents keeping silent is Grandma has to go pick up "junior" from school and stop for groceries on the way home. Her silence costs her a lot of rueful looks as well (Gramps is never seen with them alone). Oddly, I see a lot of them in Walmart. The last occurrence was a white couple with one mixed, and one white child. He would not look me in the eye, but I was thinking, "Not even if she was a gold-medal sexual gymnast that felt she was failing if she didn't have me howling at the top of my lung three times a day."

I've never even heard of the black woman I would marry, and they have not made the "three times a day" model of woman yet.

genericviews said...

They also look rough; something about datting black dudes makes a woman age bad.

It could be other things. Self destructive choices seldom travel alone.

It is also very likely that most of those women were already invisible to white men, so they had nothing to lose.

VFM #7634 said...

Later, she described to me the shock of noticing people’s reactions to the sight of them as a presumed couple. She said that she’s never experienced that before: every person she passed either gave her dagger-looks or froze her out. “How can somebody choose to live that way?” she asked.

I've gotten dagger looks myself once in a while when I talk to nonwhite girls. For whatever reason, they're always from highly attractive white women. May be related to the fact that for the past few years I only actually get anywhere with highly attractive women. Girls in the 5-7 range dismiss me as too weird, and girls below that are either indifferent or actually hostile (although once in a while an aggressive uggo does hit on me).

One girl I know had a fling with a black guy this summer and made it public on Facebook. Then she shut down her account. I wonder if it was because she got crushing social blowback.

The younger a woman is, the more naive and malleable she is. She is highly aware of the drama that "breaking the taboo" will create, and all the attention it will draw, but she is unaware of, or at the very least, does not believe in, the heavy social price that she will pay over time. And why should she, when the media is constantly telling her that she is cool and morally superior and progressive, and even her parents are afraid to tell her the truth?

I think this is very similar to the reasons why many young men become Gammas. And indeed, the girls most likely to race-mix are those most steeped either in far-left twaddle or, if they're from a right-leaning family, cuckservativism and/or Churchianity.

Also, strangely enough, I've found race-mixers to be much more closed off to older men than other girls. I have no idea why that is, but every single girl that has called attention to my being older than her turned out to be either a race-mixer or the product of race-mixing.

The propensity seems to flow in some families, even if the union seems abhorrent to the rest of the family.

Yeah, it's strange. I read about some people who mention how several of their relatives have married blacks, Hispanics, or Asians, obviously at a rate far higher than the general white population, while the propensity of my own relatives to race-mix appears to be lower than average.

Nara said...

From what I've observed, the white women that date black men tend to be overweight, unattractive and trashy. Imagine my surprise and distaste when I saw a white trash couple with a mixed race child. The guy was the actualised definition of a 'cuck'.

Jourdan said...

It is one of the odd things about human life and race relations that there exists a non-insignificant number of White women who find black men handsome and attractive, while there does not exist in any significant number White men who find black women pretty and attractive.

paworldandtimes said...

Remember guys: This kind of narrative math is also happening for the white male / asian female couple.

That is also briefly noted in the linked article. (Thanks for the link and analysis, V.D.!)

PA

VFM #7634 said...

Remember guys: This kind of narrative math is also happening for the white male / asian female couple.

I've repeatedly read online accounts of white Gammas who married Asian women and boast about the dirty looks they get in public from "nasty feminist white women".

I'd even argue that women take such rejection by their own men harder than most men do. It hits them at a primal level.

Rex Little said...

there does not exist in any significant number White men who find black women pretty and attractive.

Average black women, no. But I'm pretty sure the likes of, say, Halle Berry or Beyonce would stop traffic if the drivers were white men.

Bob Loblaw said...

A fat, 35-year-old white woman is going to be able to attract a much more physically fit and younger man if she goes black, after all, even though it means she is probably going to bear the financial burden for her children. That's an easily understood choice, particularly for the sort of low-IQ, short-time-preferenced women one sees choosing that option.

A fat, 35 year old woman is necessarily short-time-preferenced unless she already has or doesn't want children.

In general, I agree with your analysis. The distribution seems to be bi-modal - one lobe at "young and smoking hot" and another at "older and not very attractive to start with".

Tarrou said...

I live in a black-majority town, my observation is that WF/BM couples usually have about a six-point split on the attractiveness scale. Mostly it's shuffling hambeasts hooking up with relatively attractive black men, who would probably be embarrassed to be seen in public with something that hideous if it were black. That's the bit that interests me, I get why fat white chicks go for the hottest guys they can get. I don't get how the men they snag aren't inundated with abuse from their friends for dating landwhales.

VD said...

But I'm pretty sure the likes of, say, Halle Berry or Beyonce would stop traffic if the drivers were white men.

Halle Berry is more than half-white. Beyonce looks like a gorilla wearing a curly wig. She's not at all attractive. She's also probably 30 percent white.

Remember, African-Americans are, on average, 18 percent white.

VFM #7634 said...

I don't get how the men they snag aren't inundated with abuse from their friends for dating landwhales.

The low-IQ races don't mind fat chicks nearly as much as do whites and East Asians, for whatever reason. Blacks, nonwhite Latinos, Arabs, South Asians... all, it would appear, are able to pork sows without Viagra, puking, or even embarrassment.

Unknown said...

African-Americans are, on average, 18 percent white.

Ah yes, the Magic Melanin theory. You know, when a person's capacity for civilised thought and behavior is held to correlate to the precise percentage of melanin activation in their skin.

Hey, I wonder if that's what John was really getting at when he wrote "the great white throne" and "they washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb" and "You redeemed people for God by Your blood from every tribe and language and people and nation" in the Book of Revelation?

Perhaps the Google Glass team could develop an App so everyone can know the precise degree of deference or condescension that's appropriate in any given interaction. They only do God's will, right?

Aeoli Pera said...

She said that she’s never experienced that before: every person she passed either gave her dagger-looks or froze her out. “How can somebody choose to live that way?” she asked.

Remember guys: This kind of narrative math is also happening for the white male / asian female couple.

I would suppose so, but much less. When you look at demographic maps the Asians and whites mix pretty well. Whereas you presumably never see Hispanics and blacks dating, or mixing in any capacity outside of the military or possibly fundamentalist churches.

Aeoli Pera said...

Hey, I wonder if that's what John was really getting at when he wrote "the great white throne" and "they washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb" and "You redeemed people for God by Your blood from every tribe and language and people and nation" in the Book of Revelation?

This here is why we shouldn't teach people to read. Nothing good comes of it.

Aeoli Pera said...

The low-IQ races don't mind fat chicks nearly as much as do whites and East Asians, for whatever reason.

R-selection is not concerned with quality.

I've repeatedly read online accounts of white Gammas who married Asian women and boast about the dirty looks they get in public from "nasty feminist white women".

I'd even argue that women take such rejection by their own men harder than most men do. It hits them at a primal level.


Hatred is often a complex emotion. Here we have frustration (because barren), sadness (because rejection), anger (because the instinctual response to race-mixing is in-group behavior-correcting violence), contempt (because low-status males), envy (because Asian chicks are thin and feminine), and probably a number of things I'm not noticing.

haus frau said...

Genetics doesn't cater to churchianity Unknown. If you ever chose one breed of dog over another because of innate temperament diffenerences then even you must know you are full of shit. %18 difference in genes goes far deeper than melanin.

Aeoli Pera said...

The other day I realized a good test for white male SSMV would be to present them with the opportunity to have sex with a highly attractive white woman with the knowledge that she has a mixed-race kid (OT: why do mulatto kids always seem to be boys?).

Human Animal said...

I would suppose so, but much less. When you look at demographic maps the Asians and whites mix pretty well.

Sure. But it's important to think it out in concrete terms. Like asking whether you're picking your partner for your children's future, or your own gratification. Or how supportive her Chinese family is going to be of your marriage and kids.

Unknown said...

@Aioli Pera

This here is why we shouldn't teach people to read. Nothing good comes of it.

Do you mean "shouldn't teach African Americans to read", or people who have less than a certain percentage of white?

Either way, it sounds like the best way to ensure the restored Garden is white is to encourage blacks to mate with whites. Over time, those filthy black 'robes' would be 'washed' clean both genetically and culturally until they are as pure as the driven snow. The alternative is to destroy anyone who is less than 100% white, together with all their living offspring, in the name of God. Wait...that's been tried...and they're still filling the maternity wards.

What next? Maybe an assassin gene. No, haus frau says color is more than genetics. She must know, she sounds white. I know, why don't we do what the Bible says, saved by grace through faith, and trust that God's eternal plan for all mankind is good?

MycroftJones said...

I was very surprised to notice a few years ago, a growing trend. The engineer nerds are no longer going for Asian women. They've been bumped even further down the rung. Now they are going for fat black women. Not kidding. Masters degree engineer, white nerd, in decent physical shape, with frizzy haired chubbo from the Congo. Couple years ago I found out why this is happening. I was targeted too. Those black women offer something even the Asians don't: within minutes of "hello", they offer you complete devotion, and full access to whatever depraved act you want in every hole of their body. Willing and enthusiastic. I didn't take this offer up, but it put things into perspective. John Griffin wrote the book "Black Like Me" in the 1950's. He described even back then, there was a segment of white men who went after black women. Then Dawkins book, where he tried to debunk the Bell Curve, quoted sources from the Civil War, that told the same story. Once a man leaves his race behind, he ends up with lovers of darker and darker hue, lower and lower status. The Asian women are going for the tradesmen now, they've graduated from the nerd beat.

Laguna Beach Fogey said...

"Beyonce looks like a gorilla wearing a curly wig"

Dude, that comment almost made me spit out my evening G&T.

haus frau said...

There is no jew or gentile, man or woman in Christ. That doesn't mean there is no such thing as a jew or gentile, man or woman. You are a churchianity fool.

bob k. mando said...

Rex Little said...
But I'm pretty sure the likes of, say, Halle Berry



Halle's mother was English/German and her father was an American Negro. therefore, she is certainly at least 50%, and probably more, Caucasian.

still, the "pay the toll" portion of the adage still holds.

"Her father was very abusive to her mother. Berry has recalled witnessing her mother being beaten daily, kicked down stairs and hit in the head with a wine bottle."

Whisker biscuit said...

Halle Berry is beautiful, but has zero sex appeal.

Beyoncé is a treetrunk-legged, no talent hack. Any white man that would slow down in traffic to get a gander at her is a pathetic soul.

Arthur Isaac said...

1 Corinthians 12:23 KJV
And those members of the body, which we think to be less honourable, upon these we bestow more abundant honour; and our uncomely parts have more abundant comeliness.

Aeoli Pera said...

Sure. But it's important to think it out in concrete terms. Like asking whether you're picking your partner for your children's future, or your own gratification. Or how supportive her Chinese family is going to be of your marriage and kids.

Agreed.

Do you mean "shouldn't teach African Americans to read", or people who have less than a certain percentage of white?

I mean YOU numbnuts. The other commenters have covered the dialectic aspect.

To be perfectly clear...I'm a race realist. Races are different and nonwhites have a lot of unsavory aspects, I get it. But you're a little confused about what the Gospel is. It is not—I repeat, NOT—about your goofy little white supremacy theories because whites are just as God-damned as anybody else on this sorry planet. The Gospel, which we're to preach to ALL tribes and nations, is that anyone can be saved from the consequences of their sins if they have the sense to get on their knees and beg for forgiveness.

MATT said...

Caucasian is a craniofacial classification
Halle Berry can have 75% white blood. She's black.

Apparently, Martin Gore from Speeches More has a black American father.

I have pale skin blue eyes and blonde hair. My grandfather's were Mexican and Puerto Rican.

Your skin is your uniform, as has been demonstrated time and time again. Ideology ans a willingness to put your beat interests aside may buy you some time, as in Elizabeth Warren case, but ultimately, you jus' anotha' cracka.

MATT said...

Sex with an Asian is often like having sex with a piece of paper. Their bodies seem to be comprised of rabbit bones. In my experience, good in theory. And no, they are not all tight, as a rule

chris said...

"I live in a black-majority town, my observation is that WF/BM couples usually have about a six-point split on the attractiveness scale. "

A man in the bottom decile of looks would need to earn an extra $188500 income in order for a woman to prefer him over a man in the top decile of looks.

http://bigthink.com/dollars-and-sex/do-women-really-value-income-over-looks-in-a-mate

A black man needs to earn $154000 more than a white man in order for a white woman to prefer him over the white man.

http://bigthink.com/dollars-and-sex/do-women-value-ethnicity-over-income-in-a-mate

So, if

bottom decile/x decile=188500/154000

then x decile = 1.22

Or in other words, being black is comparable to being in the bottom decile of looks for white women.

This could explain such a six-point split on the attractiveness scale.

liberranter said...

"Her father was very abusive to her mother. Berry has recalled witnessing her mother being beaten daily, kicked down stairs and hit in the head with a wine bottle."

And yet she not only identifies as black, but has always preferred men of the same race as her abusive father.

Obviously Halle inherited the "bat shit-crazy/thoroughly fucked up in the head" attributes from her father's female ancestors.

Jed Mask said...

A very good spot-on analysis of the "motivations" of what's called "mudsharking"...

So, my follow-up question is: Where are you going with this?

Are you (rightfully) trying to guide and steer the young white woman away from making short-sighted poor decision-making in their mate selections?

That's what I do, as the Lord leads... Amen.

~ Bro. Jed

Aeoli Pera said...

Dammit, that was too harsh. I'm supposed to love my neighbors and I'm not very good at it.

Unknown, I responded disproportionately because you're making a common mistake among racialists, and one that is cynically propagated by manipulative cunts. They use religion to accomplish their political ends because they think God is just a noble lie smart people pretend to believe in so the kids will behave, because they lack sense.

So: you've allowed yourself to be a useful idiot. Fix it, stop taking ideas from confident idiots, and get right with Jesus.

Rodger Smith said...

What makes white men pursue black women? That has interested me most these past few years. In the small North Florida town where I now live there are more white men with black women than I have ever experienced throughout my years of military travel. One of the richest men in town was married to a black lady. She is a very nice woman, but large and not good looking. I can understand the black female attraction to white men. They are trading up, and goodness knows white men do treat their women better.

MycroftJones said...

Rodger Smith, you have it wrong. The black women pursue the white men. If the white man is parched, he is likely a Gamma. Remember the Gamma male fantasy, that the woman pursues him? With the black woman/white man pairing, this fantasy actually seems to come true.

MycroftJones said...

Addition: once a white man has had a black woman, and finds out how easy it is, he then pursues them on his own. Although, saying "Hello, my name is..." shouldn't really count as pursuit. The SMV differential makes it hard to resist, once you suppress the disgust factor. You know how a few years ago, Asia was filled with white men stumbling around in the back country looking for Asian women? Now Africa is full of Italian and Turkish and Scandinavian and Israeli chodes doing the exact same thing. I mean, it really is a race to the bottom. Men worldwide are so starved for sex with SMV-appropriate women, they are dredging the extreme bottom of the SMV pool. And our modern communications and rapid travel are enabling it in unprecedented numbers.

MycroftJones said...

From a Gamma male point of view, he goes from no sex, then suddenly there is a woman who treats him as if there is a 6 point SMV difference. Finally, a woman who sees him for the Secret King that he is! That is why so many white men are starting to go after African women now. And the African women are hungering for white babies, just like the Latinas and Asian women used to. Or maybe they still do.

Unknown said...

@Aioli

Stop taking ideas from confident idiots

Hehe. Moldbug and others predicted the emergence of the sub-intellectual Amerikaner. They're like fleas on a pitbull in the Alt-Right.

But "useful idiot"? I think you've missed the point.

Rhetoric steeped in irony flushes out the SIA's beautifully, just as it does with SJW's. Whitetrashbait, if you like. The choice is clear: flush them out or they'll drive the host mad as it scratches itself to death.

Aeoli Pera said...

But "useful idiot"? I think you've missed the point.

Conceded.

VFM #7634 said...

@MycroftJones

CDC data does confirm that black women have been getting impregnated by white men more often. The '90s were peak negro, when WF/BM accounted for just over 80% of all reported births with one (non-Hispanic) white and one black parent. In 2014, it fell below 75%.

VFM #7634 said...

Also, I found that WF/BM mixing happens to correlate directly with how well the Democrats are doing in public opinion. Mixing was subdued in 2001 and 2002, had a very large spike in 2006, and a rare decrease in 2010.

VFM #7634 said...

Sex with an Asian is often like having sex with a piece of paper. Their bodies seem to be comprised of rabbit bones. In my experience, good in theory. And no, they are not all tight, as a rule

Thanks MATT, I'll not be able to unthink this for a while.

Patrikbc said...

Short answer, negative attention is better than no attention.

vashine said...

Can we find out this mudshark's real name and pillory her on social media.... as a warning for all decent-looking, race-traitor white girls.... this is just pitiful seeing such a cute blonde dating a hoodrat...

http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/life/694227/catch-a-cheater-man-caught-cheating-viral-video?utm_source=traffic.outbrain&utm_medium=traffic.outbrain&utm_term=traffic.outbrain&utm_content=traffic.outbrain&utm_campaign=traffic.outbrain

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