- Alpha: He will only accept a subordinate position if he is under another alpha. Otherwise, he will incessantly challenge for leadership. In leadership, he'll be prone to having inappropriate affairs with attractive female subordinates. He will take risks, but they will not always be intelligent risks with a requisite prospective reward.
- Beta: He will often be called upon to succeed the alpha he served. He will be completely unable to do more than continue what the previous alpha started. A caretaker.
- Delta: He will tend to let women run roughshod over him and try to push their responsibilities onto the men under him. In disciplinary situations he will always excuse the women and blame the men, regardless of who is at fault.
- Gamma: He will inject unnecessary drama into situations, refuse to back down when he is wrong, and sacrifice the company's interests to his own feelings. If he finds himself in a position of power, he will become paranoid and dictatoria.
- Omega: He will creep out the women. If anyone is going to shoot up the office, it will be him.
- Sigma: He will quit and go off and do his own thing without warning. He'll probably have an inappropriate affair or two as well, but no one will know about it until he's gone. If given management or executive responsibilities, won't play well with the other managers. Best in a semi-autonomous "skunk works" capacity.
Wednesday, July 20, 2016
Sociosexuality and the workplace
One of the things we often discuss here is intersexual implications of sociosexuality, but there are also a tremendous number of intrasexual implications as well. Case in point: a man's rank in the hierarchy will have a tremendous effect on his behavior in the workplace. Consider the likely problems caused by each social rank:
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Omega: He will creep out the women.
And occasionally frighten the men. I didn't realize how off-putting some of my comments were until I heard them coming from another Omega venting his frustration at work.
A Sigma is essentially and Alpha who is an introvert and prefers to be alone. It is next to Alpha in the hierarchy.
I've been noticing more and more gammas since Trump. "Everybody is stupid and I'm a genius. Why won't anybody listen to my genius?"
There are a lot of different work environments. I have found that alpha's can be weak managers. They push for expansion but if they do not have betas and upper betas around them. They will push for growth while not keeping up on the details. Like keeping profitable. It takes an alpha's balls to push growth past what is economically safe. It takes a stronger beta to tell "The Man" he is going over a cliff.
That's why we were given the Cross.
That's a remarkably stupid thing to say, Arthur. We were not given the Cross because of our different socio-sexual ranks, we were given the Cross because all are sinful and fallen short of the glory of God.
Your theology isn't even inept, it's ridiculous.
What if you're an Omega so good at your job they try to push responsibility into you?
Just broad stroked guidelines, my friends.
What if you're an Omega so good at your job they try to push responsibility into you?
In such cases, they'll offload work on the Omega, but without paying him what he deserves, let alone promoting him to any prestigious positions. IOW, they'll exploit him like a slave.
...Hmmm... Forgot "Lambda" lol. Amen...
@Matt
"What if you're an Omega so good at your job they try to push responsibility into you?"
That question doesn't sound like an omega question it sounds gamma. It sounds eager and try hard.
Most Omegas see the oncoming responsibility and think "How are these bastards going to try to screw me next?" They think of the myriad and labyrinthine ways that their boss will sabotage their efforts or take all credit for their success. They think this promotion is "all responsibility with no authority". They think with absolute dread of the harridans and harpies they will be forced to work with.
In short they think of revenge, or leaving that job.
In short they think of revenge, or leaving that job.
If we were all honest with ourselves, we would admit that any "job" that is not a business that we ourselves own is one in which at some point we're either going to be plotting revenge against the bozo(s) we will inevitable be stuck working with or for, or getting ready to leave.
"In such cases, they'll offload work on the Omega, but without paying him what he deserves, let alone promoting him to any prestigious positions. IOW, they'll exploit him like a slave."
Only slightly relevant Office Space clip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctOBMFznkto
So... the guy who keeps his head down and just does his damn work without chatting everybody up would be a...?
Joe A. Clearly, you are describing a delta. Deltas are the bedrock of civilization and I think many who visit here and Vox Popoli somehow think that alphas, betas, and sigmas are putting them down by describing them as deltas.
Deltas are great, if you are in favor of civilization and tribes and friendships that last and are solid. The only real problem is that in our modern, corrupt society, women have no respect for deltas and they are the victims of divorce rape more than most other categories except perhaps gammas.
Extrapolating this to socio-sexual rank and applying the same solution is a bridge too far though?
Yes. Stop the Christian virtue-signaling. It's stupid and has exactly the opposite effect you are intending.
So... the guy who keeps his head down and just does his damn work without chatting everybody up would be a...?
Delta.
I get not having a theological debate here. I would like to sort out my understanding of your position at some point but I'm sure we're not doing it here and I'll respectfully remove my God-bothering.
It's just completely out of place as it has no logical connection to the topic. It's completely off-topic, in other words.
I made what I thought was an insight, that is all. I wasn't looking for an argument and regret responding the way I did when my pride was insulted. I have a lot to learn, and I can see I still get injured by rhetorical shivs. Both my manhood and my faith have a long way to go.
I made what I thought was an insight, that is all.
In that case, it's on you to specify why it's related to the topic.
And no, saying "well this topic is about people behaving badly and thus sin" is spurious because the vast majority of topics have to do with people, and people behaving badly. Then under that logic suddenly every single topic is okay to veer off into discussions of sin.
That mode of logic dilutes the topic at hand.
"In that case, it's on you to specify why it's related to the topic."
The starting position by Vox was rhetorical. I'm not going to argue with him, it wasn't my intention and doing so was weak on my part. I've put myself down badly with him on more than one occasion. I'm not sure how to navigate this and it's past time a vacate this thread and take a long break from commenting.
As others have mentioned before, there's a dearth of information on the Beta. That is, Beta as defined by Vox.
Going by the descriptions in the topic, as best as I understand it Betas would often be the Vice Presidents, or middle-management-to-upper-management. They're more reliable and better with people than Deltas, but definitely don't have that killer instinct that Alphas do, thus they are caretakers.
Is this correct?
Ahhh..classic Sigma here. Self employed most of my adult life. Mostly due to the fact that Ive never been able to stick to a job for more than four years without getting bored and restless. Quit most of them , but was also "let go" at a couple of them. Had I not worked in an industry thats nearly 90 % male, would probably have also had a few illicit workplace affairs.
"The starting position by Vox was rhetorical. I'm not going to argue with him, it wasn't my intention and doing so was weak on my part. I've put myself down badly with him on more than one occasion. I'm not sure how to navigate this and it's past time a vacate this thread and take a long break from commenting.
You can start by not being a pussy who wilts just because Vox (or anyone else) contradicted you. If you're wrong, admit it and move on. If you're right, put up a fight. Extreme levels of conflict aversion (especially over something as meaningless and threat-free as the comment section of a blog) is not a good trait.
If you're right, put up a fight. Extreme levels of conflict aversion (especially over something as meaningless and threat-free as the comment section of a blog) is not a good trait.
It is his blog and I have been chided for posturing. If he wanted to have this discussion we'd be having it. Being invited to leave as a heretic by Churchians is a normal starting position for me. Maybe I'm too used to taking it on the run. I still need a healthy dose of humility. Call that "being a pussy" if you like.
It is likely that my socio-sexual rank puts me in a position to see Alphas as "rich". It's aspirational. From the position of an Alpha I imagine it appears ridiculous. At the end for me giving up on socio-sexual status is in line with the rich man giving up on his wealth or Paul giving up on the heritage he recieved at the feet of Gameliel.
I'm having difficulty placing value in rank while squaring it against counting all things loss. Part of it is the masculine nature God gave us and I want to fulfill that. I don't want to overemphasize it. Then I catch myself over thinking everything.
Arthur, we can inhabit various roles. An example:
Was raised by a delta. For awhile, that mindset heavily colored my thinking, I wanted to be the white knight and be a good loyal person.
But I also enjoyed leading others. So, I had a foot in what Vox classifies as a Beta mindset. I couldn't just sit by and keep my head down. Was asked to take various small leadership positions at work. Going through a pretty hedonistic time period, I was cool with not being top dog but also not being a good solid worker anymore.
Then Christianity brought with it red pill, marriage, and responsibilities. I began seeking more responsibility at work and in my personal life. I don't avoid conflict at all anymore, may even court it when it would move my position forward. And the growing experience at leadership and confidence gives a ZFG attitude that has flipped the script so that leadership opportunities are so many that I am tempted to slide toward a Sigma mindset, just for survival.
Probably the last piece of the puzzle will be to fully embrace the Alpha and thereby kill the remaining Delta childhood training, which I believe is where the difficulty in saying "no" to comes from. Nothing is so helpful in nurturing that as much as seeing the benefits of focusing and finding that people respect you even more when you say no. As Clint would say "A man's gotta know his limitations".
You're on to something with your description of Paul. When you die to self, AND you get a mission in life that you buy into with everything, you get closer to the Alpha. It is the Christian version of ZFG. Just don't let it be poisoned by the Cuckservatives in mainstream churchianity into becoming a footstool to political correctness and subservience (especially to women).
And one last thing, most alphas I've met in real life are technically losers, if you apply christian standards and often economic standards. A zero fucks given attitude toward life may be a hit with women and make you a leader, but is also a trait of drug dealers, and a number of low IQ thug types.
Alpha is a mixed bag, as with all the socio sexual ranks. If you don't already have that killer instinct and desire to be a leader, you may want to work on just bettering yourself. For example, if you wish someone else would stand up and deliver bad news, you're going to really struggle with the Alpha roles. You won't be happy.
If you fully embrace the responsibility of writing up your employees (some of whom may be your friends), or firing them, or shutting down a division of your company, and wouldn't dream of outsourcing that to a consulting firm or to HR, then you have the makings of an Alpha. No one said you have to always enjoy drinking the cup of Alpha, but if you are Alpha, neither do you run away when it is time to drain it.
I always try to peg myself into one of these categories and never quite find a fit - beta seems closest but it's always defined in relation to alpha. I wonder if the complete absence of alpha males in my neck of the corporate world muddies the rest of the pecking order.
I'm hoping that someone can provide advice about handling supervisors who are professionally successful gammas. My supervisor is a well respected attorney in my organization (I am also a lawyer). He is also a talented musician and is mostly good socially, but responds aggressively to AMOGs not in his circle. He is not not tall or good looking, and he is far too introspective to be an alpha, by my read of the hierarchy. He is a staunch democrat/ideological leftist who enjoys political banter as long as his opinions are given deference. While he professes to enjoy debate and the free flow of ideas, he views anyone who disagree as an idiot and a threat. I think I am a beta, but red-pilled with some alpha tendencies. Is the order here to keep my head down and avoid all political talk and hope for a supervisor change or look for another job? I am otherwise very happy with my job.
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