In the latest and perhaps decisive battle over the role of women in the military, Congress is embroiled in an increasingly intense debate over whether they should have to register for the draft when they turn 18.They want equality, give it to them until they scream for mercy as their society crumbles around their ears. Then restore a sensible nationalist patriarchy and never let them vote or attend higher education again.
On Tuesday, the Senate approved an expansive military policy bill that would for the first time require young women to register for the draft. The shift, while fiercely opposed by some conservative lawmakers and interest groups, had surprisingly broad support among Republican leaders and women in both parties.
The United States has not used the draft since 1973 during the Vietnam War. But the impact of such a shift, reflecting the evolving role of women in the armed services, would likely be profound.
Under the Senate bill passed on Tuesday, women turning 18 on or after Jan. 1, 2018, would be forced to register for Selective Service, as men must do now. Failure to register could result in the loss of various forms of federal aid, including Pell grants, a penalty that men already face.
No society needs women soldiers, women doctors, women scientists, or women programmers. They are needed, desperately, as wives and mothers. Anything that stands in the way of that will ultimately need to go or the society will collapse within a few generations.
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Women voters have shown they don't want a civilization. It's shown by women who demand equality when they get something out of it, but not when they have to spend their own blood or money. Those are the actions of tyrants, not equals.
This must be a surprise for all the deluted creatures out there.
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Also an amazingly pointless gesture.
Any 18 year old woman who is fertile, has an automatic out. If a girl is pregnant when they arrive at bootcamp they get discharged automatically and sent home.
A quick to trip to the Planned Parenthood Clinic after that and their national service is done.
A draft is pointless anyway.
Welcome to the age of the internet. One minute of Googling and anyone will know enough to claim a back injury when they arrive for their physical.
Besides which, no one thinks our culture is worth fighting for.
I'm no fan of JFK but in 1941 he got his draft notice and he was as legit a Med DQ as there ever was. Addison's Disease was and is an automatic disqualifier, big time. No waiver even possible. "Go home and die in your bed son, we don't blame you." JFK used his every ounce of his Dad's influence to get into uniform.
You think that would happen today?
The Left won't fight because there is great strength in being a magnificently glorious pussy, just like their Dad's were during the Vietnam draft. Fearlessly wearing Grandma's Sunday Dresses down to the MEPS.
The right wing won't fight because we'd be fighting for the Left's culture and we're done with that shit.
Where there is only a choice between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence.
~ Mohandas Gandhi
Any 18 year old woman who is fertile, has an automatic out. If a girl is pregnant when they arrive at bootcamp they get discharged automatically and sent home.
A quick to trip to the Planned Parenthood Clinic after that and their national service is done.
I can see adding a provision to the law stating that any woman who gets pregnant in order to avokd military service will have her term of service doubled (e.g., if the term of enlistment would have been four years, it's now eight). A repeat offense means a federal prison term for a period equal to three times the original term of enlistment.
No society needs women soldiers, women doctors, women scientists, or women programmers.
I'll grant you soldiers, but why not doctors, scientists and programmers, as long as they can actually do the work? There will always be a few outliers who can. We don't need every woman to be a mother.
Now when trannies can instantly declare themselves female, it would be inequitable in the extreme to allow them to get out of the draft this way. So, biological women have trannies to blame for the extension of the draft to them. Add boatloads of male tranny middling athletes winning "women's" events and you have a hilarious flock of chickens coming home to roost. And, I know it's been said, but there is still that matter of the millions of warrior women who have to die in battle before the score is equal to men's.
Rex, read the sentence again: "No society needs..." We don't need a single woman to do any of those jobs. There would be no reduction in productivity or innovation if we had zero women doctors, scientists, etc. More likely those things would improve.
Now, if a few women want to do those things badly enough to buck societal norms and put up with working in uncomfortable male environments, there probably wouldn't be enough of them to hurt much, and they'd be the kind who wouldn't cause much trouble. But what we have now is an insistence that we need at least 50% women in every field (except those involving manual labor or things that are icky) -- that computer programming, for instance, is currently sub-par because there aren't enough women doing it -- and schemes to talk girls into them regardless of whether they have any interest or aptitude. We don't need any of that.
Cail, the way I read the sentence is that no society needs any women in those positions, and that's what I disagree with. The few that you describe would probably be more valuable as professionals than as mothers (not that those are mutually exclusive; I know a woman doctor who has four children, all of whom are now well-functioning adults).
I certainly agree that we don't need what you described in your second paragraph. I just don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Cail, the way I read the sentence is that no society needs any women in those positions, and that's what I disagree with.
What society needs any woman in those positions? What society is going to collapse if it does not have AT LEAST ONE female doctor, scientist, and programmer?
The Society of Women Engineers,Vox, that's sure to collapse.
There's a lot of bath water, but I'm not convinced there's a baby in it.
Pointing to one special snowflake who managed to hold down a job as a doctor and raise four kids proves nothing. You don't know how much better a doctor the man who would have had her job could have been, how many more kids she might have had if she hadn't wasted years in school, how much better off her husband (assuming she has one) and kids might be, or how many men didn't go into medicine because men were discouraged so that women like her could succeed. Her success doesn't supply the slightest evidence that she was needed as a doctor.
That evidence doesn't prove all women can do it either. But that logic seems to be de rigueur for advocates of equality et al. One man legitimately rapes a woman, all men are rapists. One woman "drives" (read: sells t-shirts and ad space) in NASCAR, all women are capable of handling a 3500lb machine at 200 mph. A logical sort might see Adrian Peterson break six tackles and run for an 80 yard touchdown, and realize that he is an outlier; maybe a 6-sigma deviation from the norm and the average man is incapable of coming even close to performing at that level. There's no such insight in the minds of these people. The lunacy of it is that they're encouraging others who normally would have no business even attempting such feats to do so, and like you said, denying that spot to someone who is able to function at that level.
"They want equality, give it to them until they scream for mercy as their society crumbles around their ears. Then restore a sensible nationalist patriarchy and never let them vote or attend higher education again."
Yep. Only female combat troops on the front lines, until Equality in combat deaths by gender has been reached. No whining, no Congressional debates, no rationalizations. No more males sacrificed to the American gynarchy until Death Equality stats in combat for the nation have been documented and verified. Middle-aged females also should be trained and sent, to ensure that the entire burden of Equality doesn't fall UNFAIRLY upon the youngest snowflakes. Now, is that Equal or what?
Grown men in female bathrooms and grown women in male bathrooms? sure all good, after all the law of the land is Equality. Big Brave Bubba can stand outside the restroom doors of America, puffing out his chest and waving his twenty guage. At least he won't be running his mouth about how he's a conservative and a Christian.
Tyranny will not subside until negative consequences accrue to the advocates of tyranny, especially the cuckservative males who enriched and elevated themselves the past forty years via utilization of the Equality double-bind.
Merely one year of actual Equality in America would be sufficient to destroy their useful scam forever. Make them drink their own poison, the whole rotten cup.
Meh. This whole draft thing is just theater. Women don't want women to be drafted any more than than men do, but in the feminist world view registering for a nonexistent draft is free - Congress will never institute a draft for women. I'm against registering women for the draft, not because I think there's a chance they will ever be subject to the draft, but because it allows them to pretend them might be subject to the draft.
As a woman I used to think "Ok, well there are a few women who could be doc/lawyer/etc." NOPE! Just shut it down and send them home. I'm not completely against some form of higher education for women, but it needs to be explicitly for women and purposefully complement her work in her home and church/community.
Maybe grant some exceptions to nuns in their 30-40's who have lived otherwise blameless lives so that they can serve in their cloisters. Otherwise....
If I have to hand over an inflated and largely bogus system of higher education and career-ism so that my daughter can have a more stable future I'll gladly make the exchange.
"No society needs women soldiers, women doctors, women scientists, or women programmers. They are needed, desperately, as wives and mothers. Anything that stands in the way of that will ultimately need to go or the society will collapse within a few generations."
EXACTLY, EXACTLY, EXACTLY. Women's GOD-ORDAINED purpose on earth is primarily as WIVES and MOTHERS.
When society function back in NATURE the way God intended; things will be "lookin' up". Amen.
~ Sincerely,
Bro. Jed
When she says "Muh career blah blah blah", the question I always ask (if she has no kids) is "What did you do in your work, that nobody else could do, and that was more important than having and raising at least two children?"
Usually there isn't a good answer to this.
The women that are capable to become doctors, programmers, engineers - these are the genes that desperately need to be propagated - and that isn't happening in today's society.
Through the ages, the smart, competent folks had more progeny, because they could procure more resources and were better at bringing the children successfully to adulthood. That's been stood on its head, and we're just starting to see the consequences.
I'll grant you soldiers, but why not doctors, scientists and programmers, as long as they can actually do the work? There will always be a few outliers who can. We don't need every woman to be a mother.
Not this "if she's capable" bullshit again. It doesn't matter how capable your mythical female scientist is, insert any woman into a male hierarchy and watch them go from being productive to chasing pussy - and that's just one of the reasons.
It's got nothing to do with the ability (although that is as common as a unicorn) and everything to do with the structural reasons. That intelligence could be better applied elsewhere.
Through the ages, the smart, competent folks had more progeny, because they could procure more resources and were better at bringing the children successfully to adulthood. That's been stood on its head, and we're just starting to see the consequences.
My dumb, uneducated, oppressed grandmother had to buy hazardous chemicals from the chemist, combine them safely, and apply them properly as brass polish.
Today's educated women in the second year of a university's bioengineering course can't even read a periodic table.
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"Yep. Only female combat troops on the front lines, until Equality in combat deaths by gender has been reached. No whining, no Congressional debates, no rationalizations....Merely one year of actual Equality in America would be sufficient to destroy their useful scam forever. Make them drink their own poison, the whole rotten cup.
Amen, Ray. I'd bet a paycheck you have the following scripture thrice memorized by heart, but for the benefit of others here:
Isaiah 4:1 In that day seven women will take hold of one man and say, "We will eat our own food and provide our own clothes; only let us be called by your name. Take away our disgrace!
This changes nothing: like Catline said at the top of the thread, all they have to do to avoid this is get pregnant. Hell, this happens right now when they're supposed to get deployed.
you might need a programmer autc. who is a woman, but you don't need a programmer to be a woman per se any more than you need a soldier to be a man per se. all these needs are per merit.
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