Monday, January 18, 2016

Selling the shark

Luther star Idris Elba is to warn MPs that a lack of opportunities for black actors on British TV is leaving talent 'on the scrapheap.' The actor has hit out at the situation saying he had to move to the U.S. just so he could be considered for more leading roles in shows.
There is no dearth of black actors on British TV. The problem is that nearly all of them are occupied with playing the doting husband to their white wives in advertisements, when they're not playing the "token fourth friend" in car ads.

You can't get away from it. I counted the other night and there were three commercials in a row, two for banks and one for McDonalds, and each of them featured an African man, none of whom were handsome enough to ever be considered for the role of James Bond, improbably married to white women who ranged from moderately cute brunette to very pretty blonde.

It's less Hollywood that is aggressively pushing all the mudsharking than the ad industry. Of course, you very seldom see a white man with an Asian woman on TV, despite that being the most common interracial pairing by a considerable margin. In fact, one very seldom sees Arabs, Muslims, or Hispanics on British TV. And one doesn't often see African women in commercials either, except as "black mother" or "the token fourth friend" in aimed at women.

There is no question that it's not any sort of racial equality that is being advertised, but rather a very specific form of mudsharking. And there is nothing accidental about it.

35 comments:

Sir Thermite said...

Saw an ad just last night (can't remember for what) showing a tent door being unzipped and revealing a white woman laying down next to a black man, camping with children and apparently all forming one big happy outdoors-adventuring family. Even more odd was the kids were all white too. Reminded me of on observation on Roissy's site that mudsharking women are still solipsistic enough to want daughters who look like themselves, and how it's a shiv if they have to comb out a mulatto daughters' nappy hair. Perhaps the ad agencies recognize that too, and decided to go with a softer sell...

Oliver Märk said...

http://freedompowerandwealth.com
Some people just don’t get it. They see discrimination or semi-discrimination everywhere instead of looking at the facts.

Mr.MantraMan said...

Proving PC is akin to fashion and hence just as vulnerable, "Does this PC make me look fat?" "Yes that PC makes you look fat and that PC is woefully out of date."

liberranter said...

...and each of them featured an African man, none of whom were handsome enough to ever be considered for the role of James Bond, improbably married to white women who ranged from moderately cute brunette to very pretty blonde.

I always ROTFLMAO whenever I see a TV pairing of an average looking or downright ugly black guy with a smoking hot white woman. In real life, whenever I see BM/WW interracial couples, it's almost always average looking or downright ugly black guys paired up with downright uglier, fatter white women. Mudsharks are usually always low-value white women.

I never know for sure whether I should be laughing at or pitying the poor bastard. Believe me, I know firsthand how loathsome black American women are, but to think that these guys think white American women are any improvement indicates just how bad things are in the ghetto.

Mr.MantraMan said...

Females ever on the make to up themselves in the hierarchy, and frankly speaking the billions upon billions of dollars spent on giving us the impression of UberMandingo does not really return much on the investment. BLM, and perhaps the NFL itself are not helping to put the black man as hierarchy improvement, too bad.

Wait till genetic choice is available, the howls of despair will be biblical.

Cecil Henry said...

I don;t want to see blacks on the television I watch, period.

I want to see my race and culture, and not this anti-white coercive propaganda.

And I'm not watching anything that pushes this agenda.

Mr.MantraMan said...

You know Cecil that is kind of childish and frankly weak as a response, the weakness part being pure conservative script.

Its propaganda, identify it as such, mock it as such, scorn it, but don't put your fingers in your ears and dream of White Candyland where all is well, the left preys on that.

Cataline Sergius said...

There is no question that it's not any sort of racial equality that is being advertised, but rather a very specific form of mudsharking. And there is nothing accidental about it.

Since it's white men running these ad agencies the term cuckoldry would be the best fit.

I am curious as to why. Is there a sexually submissive undercurrent that is making it's way through the male SJW warrens now?

I've seen some indication of this in the past. Remember Paolo?

Or to be more exact, do you remember the author? A white man who was proud of his own cuckholdry because that made him a real feminist.

There is after all a strong racial component to the Cuckold submissive fetish.

How strong is this fetish in male feminists? And where did it come from?

Cataline Sergius said...

I am now suddenly wondering if I'm on to something here.

It's not that outlandish an idea.



Feminism demands abject male submission in every possible aspect of his existence.


Most especially sexually. The males that thrive in this environment must embrace, in fact submerge themselves in being male submissives.

Feminists have made major inroads on this in the last year with their "Consent" campaigns where a man has to plead every time he does anything. It is an extremely submissive fetish.

And feminists are ramrodding it (soon to be literally) up men's asses.

Christopher said...


"It's less Hollywood that is aggressively pushing all the mudsharking than the ad industry. Of course, you very seldom see a white man with an Asian woman on TV, despite that being the most common interracial pairing by a considerable margin."

Mad Men influence here, but I wonder where the decision gets made. Do the ad script writers or story board people write or draw it like that? Is there a Don Draper in the background saying, "No, the black guy"?

Or are they all so afraid of legal that they just write 'generic couple' or some sort of stick figure and leave it to another department?

Who is in that department? Whose idea of socio-legally acceptable randomness would so frequently result in black guy-white girl pairings, and so infrequently white guy-Asian girl?

modsquad said...

It's not the guys running the agencies, it's the clients that are demanding a mixed "diversified" band of faces surrounding their products. If it's a collection of people in the ad then you'll see white-black-asian-male-female characters. If it's just a married couple or boyfriend-girlfriend, then one of the white's has to go for a visible minority. If there's just one character, it's a coin toss whether they'll be white or black.

I once did a retro piece that had an old stock photo of a bunch of kids swimming. They were all white. A couple days after the ad came out the CEO of the client went ballistic that there were no minorities in the ad. I'd already covered this ground with the client's marketing department, that if they were insistent on using a 1950s stock shot of kids, then A) there wouldn't be any diversity; and B) I wasn't going to photoshop a kid's skin to "Al Jolsen" him into a minority. In the end, it was still my fault that the kids were all white.

Christopher said...

modsquad,

Interesting.

But it still wouldn't explain why diversity would get expressed so often in the particular way we're talking about here.

Christopher said...

Further: I think the argument is that if it's really just a coin toss, the match ups wouldn't seem so often as described in the OP.

Joshua Sinistar said...

Oh if the enemy wants to bomb their own power base, then let them do it. No one really enjoys these things. Outside of comedians like Richard Pryor or eddie Murphy acting stupid in front of the camera, you see the most ridiculous and improbable crap possible. Its funny really. The complete opposite of reality, just like everything else on the Lying Idiot Box. Nothing the camera shows you is true. The kids are wise and the parents naive. The jews are honest and hardworking and Christians are dishonest schemers. Its like Bizarro World with uglier and less talented creatures. TV and especially Team Sports of Goofball where males who are fundamentally retarded play childrens' game are for the worst kind of lazy non-thinker. Like William Shatner famously said on an infamous segment of SCTV," Get a Life. Its just television. Its not real."

Dexter said...

Since it's white men running these ad agencies the term cuckoldry would be the best fit.

They're not white, but they can pass for white.

Cataline Sergius said...

@Dexter

Now that is an interesting comment.

Could you please expand on that? What is the ethnic makeup of a modern Ad-agency?

I'm genuinely curious.

Desiderius said...

"Could you please expand on that? What is the ethnic makeup of a modern Ad-agency?"

Great than 2% Jewish, sure.

The salient fact is likely >50% gay.

Huggums said...

I agree with most of your points. The cuckolding push is particularly sick as it also constitutes yet another attack on marriage. However, Elba is talking about the dearth of leading roles for black actors. I haven't run any numbers so I wouldn't know if that's true, especially in Britain. Whether or not Elba is handsome enough to play James Bond is a matter of opinion. I would say he definitely is, but that doesn't mean he'd have widespread appeal. And he probably wouldn't be written as well as other Bonds. If the cultural climate is as you say it is, Vox, I imagine he'd have to be portrayed as being perfect at everything and would have no flaws and make no mistakes. Not an interesting character to watch.

Cataline Sergius said...

@Huggums

The problem that Blacks have as lead actors is that the Cuck producers won't hire them as heavies anymore because they are afraid of being called racist.

Playing a Heavy is pretty much the traditional route up the Hollywood ladder. It gives producers and audiences a chance to see if the guy has that on screen magic.

The last black actor to get that chance was Wesley Snipe.

Basically it's reverse Racism.

Although in Elba's case he just thinks it's time to move up in world. If you are a British actor and want real money, you aren't going to find it in Britain.

modsquad said...

http://imgur.com/jhAxczW

Mr.MantraMan said...

Elba as Bond is weak, think of it as an aging Roger Moore with Blackness credit.

But it is a good idea to ask who actually makes these ridiculous decisions, shine the light of responsibility upon their stupid evil asses.

Huggums said...

@Cataline Sergius

I get your point. They think they're helping by limiting minority roles to the "magical" ones. Perfect in everything all the time. It's really not compelling and is sometimes unintentionally hilarious. I could see Elba being a strong Bond for instance, but he probably wouldn't be written well, but in his case I think he has the chops to do it. I think Michael Jai White fits the bill as far as Heavies go, but he hasn't had a leading role in a major action movie since Spawn. But again, who would write something like that now? White's character starts out angry and vengeful. He goes to hell and is supposed to fight for Satan. I can't see something like that being made now.

Aeoli Pera said...

@Cataline,

There is after all a strong racial component to the Cuckold submissive fetish.

For this, I can offer a plausible explanation. Refer to Anonymous Conservative's post Charlie Sheen, Gays, Transexuals, and Dopamine:

There was an anecdotal case highlighted in the book of a heterosexual man with a family who was prescribed a dopamine agonist for Parkinson’s symptoms. Once he was hopped up on synthetic dopamine, the father then went on a gay sex binge which he said he couldn’t control, until he went off the medication and became heterosexual again.

Sexual stimulation requires a mild level of amygdala stimulation. Too little is what you have between a husband and wife who have been married for decades, and for whom sexual activity is totally routine. Too much is what you have when a Grizzly Bear smells the deer hormones you put out by your tree stand, decides he feels a little randy, and, well, you just happen to be in the wrong place at the right time for the bear.

My own theory is, when you are hopped up on dopamine, you need more amygdala stimulation than you would normally need, to overcome the amygdala-quieting effects of the dopamine and get into that sweet spot where sexual drive arises.


So in a resource glut, the required level of sexual weirdness gets skewed. Because black people are scary to white people at a fundamental level (racist, I know, but true), the racial element provides a bigger source of transgressive amygdala stimulation.

Compare to Milo's assertion that he went gay because it was transgressive (and then got in a rut), and his attraction to black men.

Aeoli Pera said...

Think of this as an intensity amplifier for the pre-existing cuckold fetish, which I suspect originates elsewhere.

Michael Maier said...

Seriously, fuck Idris Elba. Whiny prick.

I dated a black woman for a bit that said something about "why don't more movies star black folks?" I said "Are you KIDDING me? Blacks are 10% of the population and you think they're UNDER-represented in TV & movie roles"?

Shut her right the Hell up.

Michael Maier said...

Further, every part I've seen Idris Elba fill is adequate - AT BEST. Even Larry Correia thinks he would be a bad-ass James Bond for some reason.

I guess telling Charlize Theron she's a robot before porking her counts as great acting.

APL said...

Michael Maier: "why don't more movies star black folks?"

More to the point, why doesn't Africa have its own movie industry?

After all, India does ...

Cataline Sergius said...

Meet Agent Carter's New Love Interest

In NINETEEN FORTY FUCKING SEVEN.

Aeoli Pera said...

$5 says she comes out as a MtF right before the series finally gets cancelled.

Mindstorm said...

@Cataline Sergius
About that "Paolo" stunt, the first thought I had was: "Feminism. Not even once."

Derrick Bonsell said...

Idris Elba would make a horrible Bond.

Michael Maier said...

"Idris Elba would make a horrible Bond."

I am told "LUTHER" is a great show. If Elba shows anything other than laconic, it would be more acting than I've ever seen him do.

Bond is a charming assassin with a sense of humour. And for all things that are bad about the series, it does take some subtlety to be Bond.

I've never seen anything subtle about Elba.

Game Run 3 said...

I do not want to see black people on television I see the time.
I want to see my race and culture, and not propaganda against the enforced white.
And I do not see anything but push this agenda.
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littl3x said...

" In fact, one very seldom sees Arabs, Muslims, or Hispanics on British TV. And one doesn't often see African women in commercials either, except as "black mother" or "the token fourth friend" in aimed at women."

This is true, although I have seen quite a few S. Asians sprinkled about Dr. Who and other shows. The "problem" is that many of their shows are historical, so there isn't much room for a black or S. Asian role in it other than as a servant, and the vast majority of servants were white anyway.

Huggums:

Nice to see you around again.

"If the cultural climate is as you say it is, Vox, I imagine he'd have to be portrayed as being perfect at everything and would have no flaws and make no mistakes. Not an interesting character to watch"

It depends on the show. Dr. Who balances the cast very well, making the black actors bad or villainous at times, flawed, etc. The last season of Dr. Who that I watched (series 8, I think with the 13th Doctor) featured three black characters. One was the companion's boyfriend. He was universally disliked. The other was a bit character in two episodes and he came off as a normal person. The third was a school girl who was a bit of a delinquent with a heart of gold. There was a little tokenism but it wasn't eye rolling. I think that British TV does less of the Magic Negro and is less pc than American TV. That's not the problem.

I think the problem is that people like their Austins and Dickens and there are no roles for black actors in those because of historical reasons. One can only play Othello so many times. I have seen black and. S. Asian actors in some pop historical stuff, like Merlin. They are trying to make Shakespeare "color blind" for instance, and it looks off. That is not something that can be wished away and directors know this as much as they try to token it up.

For example, in the Hollow Crown series, there were a few black actors cast. The one cast in the Henry IV plays fit well because he was mulatto and his english accent was perfect so one could sort of overlook the historical incongruity. ( I haven's seen Henry the V) But the one cast for Edward the II was so dark and his accent so thick, that he stood out in a bad way. It was cringeworthy.

So that's my theory. There are plenty of roles for black brits in futuristic and modern settings, but few in the past. And that, being England, is where the prestige and the accolades are to found. That is where the young actors go to prove their worth, like Tom Hiddleston, David Tennant, and Benedict Cumberbatch. It is in these Shakespeare productions and the like that older actors preserve their legacy.

So Samuel Anderson may have played a good whiny, possessive boyfriend with PTSD on Dr. Who. Heck he could even be the next Bond. But that will never give him the accolades of playing Henry V. And that is what Elba is complaining about.

Some Dude said...

I'm sick of it as well. The shocking thing is that the UK population is 3% black. Nowhere near American levels. I can't for the life of me understand why CEOs would want to appeal to such a small segment with their ads...There's something more going on.

As you say, you hardly see South Asian men with with women, and they are 9% of the population.

Its very clear they are trying to promote black man + white woman. Its always that combo, no matter how ludicrous the setting, no matter how small the population, no matter what product, no matter how much sales decline. They dont care. They want to show black men with white women.

Its disgusting.

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