Monday, August 24, 2015

Male complaints don't count

Not only are they false, but they only go to prove what pathetic man-babies they are, or so insists a male media feminist:
 I can’t help thinking, though, that most men who boast of possessive wives are speaking wishfully. “She won’t let me out of her sight,” says one chap I know of his wife. I’ve met her – she clearly cannot wait for a night to her self.

In other cases, there’s reverse psychology going on. I’m sure that one particular chap that I know keeps saying his wife is dictator behind closed doors in the hope that his words may eventually push her to become the most laissez-faire lady to ever live. Good luck with that one, pal.

So keep an eye and an ear out for these wife-slanderers, they really are great cinema. And although they exaggerate their servility, the fact that they’re considering the feelings of their wives, and taking seriously the responsibilities of fatherhood, can only be a good thing.

It might be more gallant, though, if in time they could express that without it being at the expense of their women who are, I’m sure, very rarely the hissing autocrats that their husbands speak of.
Remember, if a man says anything negative about a woman, it is evidence of his personal deficiencies. If a woman says anything negative about a man, it is not only Gospel truth, but you should probably call the police and have him arrested, just to be safe.

Anyhow, men who whine about their wife being "the boss" are mostly gammas and low deltas. The only time a man takes orders is if you are a) at work, b) joining the priesthood, or c) in the Army.

29 comments:

Trust said...

Amusing how the people most likely to preach equality and complain about sexism are also the ones who look no further than someone's genitals when drawing their conclusions.

everybodyhatesscott said...

It's always fun to google these guys pictures.

Dalrock said...

Hilarious:

I’m sure that one particular chap that I know keeps saying his wife is dictator behind closed doors in the hope that his words may eventually push her to become the most laissez-faire lady to ever live. Good luck with that one, pal.

The man who claims his wife is a dictator is obviously lying to try to convince her to stop being a dictator.

Crowhill said...

>Remember, if a man says anything negative about a woman, it is evidence of his personal deficiencies.

Yes, or that he is holding women to a more demanding standard than he would hold a man to. (Which may point back to his personal deficiencies.)

It's amusing to me how predictable it is. If you criticize a woman -- any woman, for any cause (except maybe a conservative) -- someone will say she's being held to an unfair standard.

Laguna Beach Fogey said...

Some of it is wishful thinking. A lot of modern men find being a man, having responsibilities and duties, upholding standards, exercising authority, and being White too burdensome a task. What a relief therefore it must be for them to unload it onto their wife.

Rabbi B said...

Oh, haven't you heard?

Women are gods and ANY criticism of them is blasphemy of the highest order punishable by having your nuts nailed to a tree as a warning to other would-be offenders.

corvinus333 said...

Anyhow, men who whine about their wife being "the boss" are mostly gammas and low deltas. The only time a man takes orders is if you are a) at work, b) joining the priesthood, or c) in the Army.

Never understood why men let women boss them around like that. It's not like the women will slit your throat if you refuse. The ensuing banter can often be quite entertaining.

corvinus333 said...

Some of it is wishful thinking. A lot of modern men find being a man, having responsibilities and duties, upholding standards, exercising authority, and being White too burdensome a task. What a relief therefore it must be for them to unload it onto their wife.

I see... IOW, male laziness as a factor.

Trust said...

Men who are not alphas, which are most men, usually do not have the verbal skills to handle their wives, any more than the wives could last 3 minutes in a boxing match with their husbands.

A lot of men get worn down. Arguing doesn't change anything, she never gets tired of at, and many men just suck it up and try to get along. Giving in then watching the game is easier than arguing through the game.

This isn't an excuse, but I see how it happens. There are times when I shut my mouth so my wife won't drive me crazy.

ray said...

I never hear men whine about their wives being boss. Instead, they make little 'jokes' about their wives being the real boss etc. It's a sub-language of married U.S. males, and even the 'pastors' play this sad game. Apparently by making such comments, married men (who, in America, are dominated by their wives) attempt to jocularize their emasculation, pretending that they 'know it's a just a joke'. Winky winky.

They rarely complain openly about their wives, at least not around me. But the men seem to draw attention away from subjugation by 'admitting' their wives are in charge. Then, by reverse osmosis or something, apparently I'm supposed to infer that the REAL truth is that HE is the boss of the marriage. Which, of course, obviously he ain't.

Married men in America live rabbit lives. Always glancing around nervously, waiting for that Great Eagle to swoop in and snatch away their comfortable lives. This attitude is definitely related to modern matriarchy because in the working-class town where I grew up, married men did not run this jive.

Trust said...

Most husbands are aware that if push comes to shove, her legal power dwarfs his, and that the marriage succeeds or fails more on her whims than his efforts. Sucking it up and trying to keep the family together and spare the kids the athuing is not necessarily a sign of weakness.

ray said...

"Sucking it up and trying to keep the family together and spare the kids the athuing is not necessarily a sign of weakness."


It isn't a sign of weakness, it is weakness itself. This is how the matriarchy was built, and is maintained -- by men 'sucking up' to female power, whether expressed in their individual wives, in the feminist State, or in the woman-guided churches. We don't do our children any favors by choking down the gynarchy with a smile.

I'm aware of exactly how American women use children as weapons, and as pawns of power, to have their will done in marriages and in civil society. Caving-in to this has been the default position of U.S. males for most of the last century, with disastrous results. We tell ourselves we are being the Suffering Hero and are putting up with rulership under wives and daughters in order to 'maintain the family' etc., but in reality we are selling out our own families and our nations via submission. Most men don't do it for their families, they do it for themselves. One need only to look at the most powerful symbolic males in the most powerful nation the earth has ever known, e.g., president and vice-president, to see the horrible reality of this compromise. What men become when they go along to get along.

Laguna Beach Fogey said...

"male laziness"

Or cuckoldry. Take your pic.

Interestingly, among my male clients a large percentage defer household financial decision-making to their wife. I thought this was odd. When I looked into it more closely it appeared that this was true mostly for small business owners and middle class investors. The self-made multi-millionaires, entrepreneurs, and high-level executives were much more involved.

Rabbi B said...

"Interestingly, among my male clients a large percentage defer household financial decision-making to their wife"

This seems to be generally true. We recently had our house on the market "For sale by owner" for a couple of months. We had about 20 showings in that time. Not one showing was initiated by the husband. Always the wife. At every showing it was obvious whose decision to buy the house was going to be and in 90% of the cases it was clear who was running the whole show . . . and it wasn't the husband. Follow--ups and offers were also handled by all of the women. Maybe men are just that lazy.

Trust said...

Women in particular confuse the absence of self control with strength. Women who regard themselves as "strong" are most often ones who are too afraid to stop being a pain in the ass. They often confuse a man's inability to control himself with strength.

Yes, some people are too insecure or afraid to speak up. But self control ans shutting up often take strength.

Carl Philipp said...

I don't think it's that unusual for women to run household affairs, because traditionally she's in the house most of the time. Good leaders delegate.

Regardless: "I can’t help thinking, though, that most men" is how you can tell ahead of time that what follows will have no substance. And lo and behold, she is drawing large conclusions from gossipy bullshit. Why the heck should I trust the opinion of somebody I've never met about people I know even less, and why should that mean anything at all about what I think about "most men?"

"I can't help thinking" seems to me like it is probably, in my opinion, in general sort of like a way to dishonestly preserve plausible deniability. I think.

ray said...

'Maybe men are just that lazy.'


Doubtless the married castrati that infest America would like to believe it's just laziness etc. Even that is better than the truth.

But it's not laziness. It is subjugation.

JAY WILL said...

Most of the problem is thirst. Its like maybe if I say this and say that it'll get me in somehow. So you try to be "compromising" or "reasonable" effectively just compliant. In the short term this can get some leverage, and women with emotional or practical problems a lot more leverage, but it doesn't build attraction or respect and also sets up future expectations. So you blowing up 2 months later cos your pissed off and feel like your nagged to death comes out of the blue and is clearly unjustified to the woman. She'd have a point but the truth is she lied to herself too, she pretended your compliance meant something to her, she's probably morally worse than you.

The problem is if your general smv is too low you only have drop out or self-improvement in your armoury. Otherwise women will seem like a series of job interviews, or worse soulless zero attraction "friend" moments. But its just a big lie, more than anything you want your dick in them lol. Not like your obsessing about it in the moment but effectively that's the end goal.

What must be wonderful is to raise your smv to a level where your "niceness" is now just decency, it makes you a genuine good guy. I see that when I see rugby-type men who carry babies around. He's automatically high smv, due to higher T signs, hairiness etc etc. Picking up a kid doesn't undermine his masculinity, if you look or act like a lower T or low T nice guy, you just look like a cuck. Nice people will never call you a cuck, but that's what you are. A low smv guy who pushes the pram is a fckin slave, and his balls will literally shrink. I've seen guys who people take the piss out of behind his back because his kid doesn't look like him. That is gut brutal.

Be the guy who fcks his Mrs behind his back, not the pram pusher. But the low risk, low T nice guy would rather the soulless grinding loneliness of a marriage with a nagging woman than what I have which is a more miserable existence, talking to myself, living in the clouds, needing immediate impulses satisfied. The thing is I know I would lose my head in the end, if I can't be a winner then there is a rage in there that I can keep under control most of the time, but when women are involved my powers of control go out the window.

JAY WILL said...

Whats great about my comments is they can all be used as evidence against me! Gamma naivety? Or maybe I want to be smoked out.

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pulvatory said...

The only time a man takes orders is if you are a) at work, b) joining the priesthood, or c) in the Army.

Yeah? What if you're at school and she's a teacher? What if she's a doctor? What if she's a person of authority talking about something you know jack shit about? Should I disobey the next female judge who gives me an order? Should I tell her that Vox Day tells me not to listen unless we're at work, I'm joining the priesthood, or we're in the Army?

Do you think about any of these things, Vox?

John rockwell said...

@puvatory

As per the passage of Isaiah 3:12 a nation ruled by women is a nation under the judgment of God.

women should not lord if over men in the 1st place anyway.

pulvatory said...

According to logic, Isaiah 3:12 is a crock of shit.

Vox, come out and answer me. How do you reconcile your idiotic views with my response?

SirHamster (#201) said...

Vox, come out and answer me. How do you reconcile your idiotic views with my response?

Reading comprehension is hard.

"The only time a man takes orders is if you are a) at work, b) joining the priesthood, or c) in the Army."

Jack Amok said...

I see... IOW, male laziness as a factor.

Yes and no. What Fogey said about some men finding being a man "too burdensome a task" is absolutely true. But is it because they're lazy, or is there some other explanation?

Well, sure, some men are just lazy, but society has made all those things Fogey listed significantly harder for the average guy. There's lmited support from the rest of society for a man trying to exercise authority or uphold civilizational standards. Alphas don't much care, they do what they do anyway, but Betas and Deltas need a little help because they're not comfortable going against the grain. They're not getting help these days, so no wonder more and more are shrugging their shoulders and saying "to hell with it." Men aren't to blame.

But on a man-to-man basis, there's nothing else to say but "get off your lazy ass and make your life better. Yeah, I know it's hard. Suck it up, Buttercup, nobody else is going to make things better for you if you won't try to make things better for yourself."

Aspies and Gammas won't understand the contradiction there - men aren't to blame while the individual man is - but regular guys will get it. The least manly thing you can do is blame the rest of the world for your situation and then use that as an excuse to sit on your ass and not try to improve it. In particular, doing that is aggriavating the lack of support - if you're at least trying to do those things Fogey mentioned, then you are making it easier to other men to do it too. You're providing some support to their efforts to set standards and exercise authority. Bravery is contagious. Catch some. If you do, you'll automatically pass it along.


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