Wednesday, June 10, 2015

Lab girls

A Nobel laureate explains the problem:
My hero of the week is 72-year old Nobel-prizewinning scientist Sir Tim Hunt who this week went public at the World Conference of Science Journalists in Korea on the three main problems he has encountered during a lifetime working with female scientists:

     “Let me tell you about my trouble with girls. Three things happen when they are in the lab: you fall in love with them, they fall in love with you, and when you criticise them they cry.”


Inevitably this has got him into an awful lot of trouble with the professional offence-taking community, who have variously described him as “extremely irritating”, a “sexist shit” and an “old man”.

But to his credit – and this is what really makes Hunt my hero – he has stuck to his guns. While covering himself with a formulaic non-apology apology (ie expressing sorrow for the “offence caused”) he has so far made no attempt to retract what he said.

Presumably this is because Hunt is one of those old-fashioned, pre-Social-Justice-Warrior-era sorts who believe that a scientist’s job is to tell the truth.
Reality is what it is. And it's not those who think men and women can simply ignore the existence of sex and the inevitable fallout from sexual attraction who are on the side of reality.

25 comments:

Quizzer W said...

"While covering himself with a formulaic non-apology apology (ie expressing sorrow for the “offence caused”) he has so far made no attempt to retract what he said."

Have we not been reliably assured by dozens of SJWs that this is, in fact, a complete, total and abject apology?

swiftfoxmark2 said...

You mean these Lab Girls?

Then yes, I would be distracted in the lab...

hank.jim said...

SJW always blame men for keeping women out of science for telling the truth. The truth is women cannot be in science. There was another article that written by a female scientist that advised women to not be bothered by men who look at their chests. That was too much truth for them to handle. It is a good idea to avoid sexism. Just don't work with women.

ScuzzaMan said...

and then I go and spoil it all, by saying something stupid, like "I'm so-o-rry!" ...

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Cail Corishev said...

Makes you wonder: why did he offer even the formulaic "for any offense caused" apology? At 72 and holding a Nobel, surely he doesn't have to fear for his career. Maybe he actually did feel bad that he could have hurt someone's feelings.

Hammerli280 said...

“Let me tell you about my trouble with girls. Three things happen when they are in the lab: you fall in love with them, they fall in love with you, and when you criticise them they cry.”

The first two sound like a feature, not a bug.

Crowhill said...

Well, if women want to be treated like men, when they cry we can ridicule them, right?

Laguna Beach Fogey said...

To be honest, I sort of like having girls in the office as eye candy and sources of amusement.

I'm lucky in that my firm hires a lot of hot chicks, who mainly occupy admin and back office roles. The sales and client-facing professionals are mostly men.

The few older women there occupy management positions and are generally masculine ballbusters.

The younger ones try to please me and make me laugh. The older ones love me, too. Another reason to go into the office every morning.

There's a ton of fooling around occurring in the office these days. If the majority of beta males understood that, they would ban women from office employment completely.

liberranter said...

Well, if women want to be treated like men, when they cry we can ridicule them, right?

That, and maybe beat the shit out of them too.

Dexter said...

I sort of like having girls in the office as eye candy and sources of amusement.

That's great until you realize it means more work for you, and they're getting paid the same as you just to look pretty.

Iowahine said...

Dexter: That's great until you realize it means more work for you, and they're getting paid the same as you just to look pretty.

Most likely these gals are not performing functions that a male would; there have always been an abundance of mundane, routine, and tedious tasks that needs doing in "work outside the home." Women/girls are perfect for it; most men can't abide doing it. As for eye-candy - my father owned a business for decades. He finally hired an assistant for himself. While the other women in the office were starting to wear slacks (99% of the employees in his work space were females, the men worked in the "shop"), he particularly liked that his assistant continued to wear a skirt.

Laguna Beach Fogey said...

No, I don't have those problems.

modsquad said...

He resigned today. Out of a job.

genericviews said...

The first two sound like a feature, not a bug

Not if you are the owner of the lab and have invested your future on some sort of meaningful production.

Aeoli Pera said...

variously described him as “extremely irritating”, a “sexist shit” and an “old man”.

All excellent indicators of a quality scientist and an interesting conversation partner. SJWs care for neither group, of course.

liberranter said...

Dexter: That's great until you realize it means more work for you, and they're getting paid the same as you just to look pretty.

Most likely these gals are not performing functions that a male would; there have always been an abundance of mundane, routine, and tedious tasks that needs doing in "work outside the home."


Nope. If only they WERE all doing relatively harmless jobs that women traditionally have done. Were that the case, Sir Tim would never have uttered his words of wisdom and we wouldn't be having this discussion.

I can tell you from direct experience that many, even most of these women have been hired to fill jobs traditionally held by men. You appear to have no idea just how heavily businesses are recruiting women in order to fill "gender gaps" in the professions, an effort driven largely by (obviously unconstitutional) federal mandates.

And no, these women CANNOT perform at the same technical level as men. Not ANY of them. I have probably spent a good five career years over the last fifteen either doing these women's work for them (after either they or their emasculated mangina bosses have offered up every lame excuse imaginable as to why the women can't themselves do the work) or fixing the disastrous, costly messes that they've made through their own incompetence.

Sir Tim is, if anything being too kind in his assessment.

ray said...

No apologies for speaking the obvious truth. No non-apology apologies either. And especially no apologies for the speaking the truth in the face of the inevitable intimidations and dirty tricks and gotchas by Team Fem and its corporate and government thugs.

Iowahine said...

Liberranter: my comment was in response to Dexter's response to LBF's comment, "I sort of like having girls in the office as eye candy and sources of amusement." LBF also said, "I'm lucky in that my firm hires a lot of hot chicks, who mainly occupy admin and back office roles."

I haven't been in an office setting in decades, even longer since I was in a lab setting. My husband is the sole provider in our home and is surrounded in his work by many co-workers hired primarily for their sex and race, so I'm well-aware it happens way too often (and not just from my husband's experience). I was pointing out that the women to whom LBF referred sounded like the kind who have traditionally filled the routine tasks of administrative assisting. I do think the majority of these types of jobs are still filled by females, but I could be wrong, and I agree, hiring to fill quota spots is disasterous. I take no issue with Sir Tim's statements and would encourage only more of his blunt honesty and no apologies.

Retrenched said...

"How dare he suggest that women are more emotional than men! Sexist pig!" *sobs hysterically*

Retrenched said...

"How dare he suggest that women are more emotional than men! Sexist pig!" *sobs hysterically*

SirThermite said...

Amen, ray. And I await the day (closer all the time) when "Team Fem" has to come to terms with their own hatred for truth and their policy of punishment of thoughtcrime, after they realize that their embrace of transsexuals was sowing the seeds of their own destruction. They'll try to retract their position and then choke on it...SJWs always eat their own.

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