Thursday, February 12, 2015

Feminism kills

Feminism doesn't just murder unborn children and inspire post-divorce rape male suicide, it causes young women to despair and kill themselves too:
Rachel Gow, a 29-year-old hospital administrator, was struggling with the fact that she was unmarried and didn't have any children. The pressure became so much for her that just before her 30th birthday, tragically she took her own life.

At that point, she'd spent four years without her mum after losing her to cancer in 2011, and she'd also been through three breakups. Though she had started a relationship with her engineer boyfriend Anton Tsvarev, 30, she feared it was ending.... It's a heartbreaking tragedy, and one that has clearly devasted all of Gow's loved ones. But what it does show is the undeniable - and understandable - pressure that young women face in their twenties.
Who is putting that pressure on them? Not men. Consider the list:
 1) Found a job we love where we can take a long maternity leave and still have a desk to come back to. Preferably with a chance of promotion

2) Made enough money to afford childcare so we can keep on working post-baby

3) Found someone to have baby with

4) Figured out if we actually want a baby

5) Had enough relationships, dates and sexual experiences to keep us going till we retire, i.e. our seventies

6) Gone travelling (everywhere). Figured out how to do this in between climbing the career ladder and earning some money

7) Fulfilled all major dreams that can’t be done once we have kids and mortgages 
The pressure to obtain degrees, high-status jobs, and ride the ALPHA carousel, then perfectly time the leap to obtain a BETA husband of sufficient means and status comes entirely from women. Feminism kills, and it kills young women too.

50 comments:

Earl Thomas said...

Makes me wonder if she was taking anti-depressants and/or birth control. The only way feminism seems to keep going is if these gals stay sufficiently drugged in their delusion.

Iowahine said...

Women - even some men - don't need meds to wallow in delusion. Then again, Eve was willing to ingest a high fructose substance to be like God.

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AmyJ said...

Took a Women's Christian Business Ethics course in college (yeah, I know - it WAS as worthless as it sounds). The professor was a baby boomer who had waited until she was 40 to get married; she had the astounding luck to marry a wealthy economist (her former boss) and pop out two beautiful children. Most of the girls in the class thought she was definitely the standard to shoot for: she had developed a career on her own that not only let her travel a lot, but enabled her to meet her future husband after a decade on the road. She had a family without jeopardizing her career. She was energetic, slender, and stylish, impressive given that she was in her 50's. While the biggest parts of the class were devoted to acting and dressing ppropriately within the bounds of your career, she was very encouraging of us to not get married until we had established a career. The Christian college I had attended was renowned for its focus on marriage and marrying kids off early, but her telling us to wait was subversive and exciting. Here was a successful, beautiful woman who had done it all and now has it all It's attainable, right? Absolutely, all of the pressure to have it all comes from women, and women only.

I shudder to think of how much damage she's caused to the hundreds, maybe thousands, of women who have taken her course. And this was a Christian college! Imagine the devastation this has on the vast majority of women who have a degree from secular schools.

Earl Thomas said...

No they don't need meds...but they seem to be a pretty common occurrence to keep it up.

JP said...

Every single person who encourages young women (and men) to not have children, is guilty of genocide. It may not be the ugly type of genocide with the gas chambers or the machetes, but it is genocide nonetheless.

Laguna Beach Fogey said...

Boo-fucking-hoo.

Liberalism kills. Liberalism is the culture of death.

SarahsDaughter said...

It's been disheartening to watch the predictable behavior of my peers who are now over the age of 40. The window of opportunity for marriage and children has been, for the most part, closed for those who delayed and those who frivorced are looking down a long road of being alone. Those of us who married young and had babies young are now sending our children off to college, and soon will be entering the stage of having children get married and becoming grandparents. Are the barren spinsters speaking out about their regrets, are they being honest about their loneliness, are they telling women younger than them to not make the decisions they made? Of course not. They are doubling down on "I am enough" - literally the title of a post I read by one 40 year old woman who divorced early, aborted one baby and has recently ended her quest to make up for it by conceiving via IVF (two failed attempts).

"I am enough...well actually...me, my Zoloft, Xanax, and Ambien are enough!"

Earl Thomas said...

'Every single person who encourages young women (and men) to not have children, is guilty of genocide.'

The biggest culprits are contraceptives and abortion.

This is what happens when you divorce sex from procreation. They have always been meant to go together.

Trust said...

Just this week, a letter was posted on SJ-R titled: "Desperate need for child care assistance." A woman made the following comment on the letter:

"I live in California and have been on a child care assistance waiting list for almost 2 years. I am right now having their dad live in my house because we can't afford to both work and pay $2800 a month for 3 kids."

Okay, so her and their dad are doing what it takes to take care of their kids. But she has other plans. She further comments:

"This idea that women should have to depend on family, friends, and the fathers when they are all trying to work is a pain and try to raise them in good schools is next to impossible."

So depending on the father is "a pain." She apparently thinks the idea that we, who are also trying to take care of our families, should have our income forcibly taken to subsidize her choices is just fine.

I don't know the full situation, but my guess is that if she gets child care assistance, the dad will be booted out of the home. If that isn't the case with her, it clearly is the case with many kids who have absent fathers and irrespondible carousel riding mothers, all due to feminized laws and incentives.

Feminism does kill. It kills women, men, children, families, unborn children, and society.
http://www.sj-r.com/article/20150207/OPINION/150209609/2014/OPINION

YIH said...

Aw, those poor now-homeless cats.

Sanelity F said...

Unless something changes soon, I expect to see more stories like this. Dalrock updated his never married stats and they continue to show a further increase: https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2015/02/07/2014-never-married-data/

Owen said...

Trust,
My guess, as a former welfare worker, is that she hides the fact that he's in the house in order to appear more poor. So, the "pain" is because she has to produce kabuki theatre to get Big Guv to pay for her lifestyle, since she had kids with a guy who can't support the family.

She banged a loser (at least one), had three kids, and now has to lie to try to get free childcare.

Keep in mind, she likely already receives free healthcare, food stamps, etc.

Trust said...

Insanitybytes, I make every effort to be charitable and have polite discourse with people whim I disagree. However, in your case, you only seem to argue words you out in other people's mouths rather than reality.

In any case, you're arguably the biggest fool on this forum, and there is no shortage of worth competition for that accolade.

Owen said...

She's just trying to drive traffic to her site. The exaggerated claims in the link are obviously meant to get counter-comments.

Never wrestle with a pig. You get dirty and the pig likes it.

hank.jim said...

Women cannot do all the things that can't get a man and then suddenly decide a man is worth keeping at age 30. Life doesn't work that way and babies don't arrive suddenly at age 31. She needs to decide what is important. Is it marriage and babies or career and cats and cock?

Men have more time because that can deal with drudgery better than women. Men can have babies well after 40 by marrying women 25 to 35. Life is unfair and made more unfair by women.

Corvinus said...

@hank.jim

The simple fact of the matter is that equalism is robbing women of their reproductive power, in two major ways:

1) Because men often wait until their 30s to get married -- in many cases because we have to -- equalism DEMANDS that women do so as well.
2) Similarly, equalism DEMANDS men marry women their own age. Because men in their early 20s often don't know what the h*ll they want to do, the women figure they can dink around (i.e., travel and ride the carousel) until their same-age peers finally get their sh!t together.

Laguna Beach Fogey said...

The number of single, childless women in their 30s-50s that I meet socially around here is enormous. They fill their empty lives with social causes, hobbies, wine, and meaningless sex.

Behind the faux-sophistication and "you go grrrl!" bluster you can sense there is real pain. I don't know what the alcohol and drug addiction rates are like among this female demographic, but I bet they're high and rising. I can count on ten hands the number if women taking some sort of ant-depressant, antI-anxiety medication.

I used to feel a bit guilty after banging these girls, but the more you take advantage of them the more you get used it. It's a wasteland out there.

Earl Thomas said...

'She needs to decide what is important.'

Ha.

Ha ha.

HAHAHA!!!!!!!

She needs the man who has authority over her (God or father)...to tell her what is more important. If she listens to academia, society, her girlfriends...they'll all tell her it's the job, cats, and cocks.

hank.jim said...

I think women rather marry her own age rather than this having to do with equalism. Shouldn't equalism suggests women should marry younger men just as men marry younger women? Equalism is frankly unnatural which is why it is failing.

Women are delaying marriage until after 30 not from equalism as a concept, but because they would rather use their time having fun and focus on their careers. This is not something that men necessarily do too since men would rather marry younger if given the chance. Most men are not successful with casual sex.

Trust said...

@hank.Jim

Women only plead for equalism when it gets then privileges or cash/prizes. They aren't interested in equality when it means responsibility or accountability.

Eric said...

Behind the faux-sophistication and "you go grrrl!" bluster you can sense there is real pain. I don't know what the alcohol and drug addiction rates are like among this female demographic, but I bet they're high and rising. I can count on ten hands the number if women taking some sort of ant-depressant, antI-anxiety medication.

I'm in that age bracket now. The women with whom I went to college that prioritized career over family are just miserable. They gained a bunch of weight, drink way too much wine, and get angry when anybody mentions children. To cap it all off none of them are doing very well professionally.

LP 999/Eliza said...

Satanic worldviews usually end badly.

Didact said...

Bonobo-nose is back! And evidently every bit as afflicted with intellectual diarrhoea as ever.

Men didn't lie to young women and tell them that they could have it all. Men- at least, those of us with our heads screwed on even halfway right- know full well that "having it all" is a silly dream.

Feminists, on the other hand, have been lying to women for decades about having it all. Feminists, being incapable of recognising basic truths of biology and physiology for what they are, simply cannot understand how illogical it is to expect a woman to be perfect at everything. The blame for this rather fetching young woman's untimely and unhappy death belongs not with men, but with the feminists who convinced her that she could do the impossible.

Laguna Beach Fogey said...

@ Eric ~ I remember reading an article a year or two ago about rising alcoholism rates among women, particularly female wine drinkers. The wine bars around here are full of groups of single, horny women who practically fall over one another to get the attention of the relatively few attractive guys, like a pack of street dogs fighting over some scraps of prime rib. I love it.

Corvinus said...

I'm in that age bracket now. The women with whom I went to college that prioritized career over family are just miserable. They gained a bunch of weight, drink way too much wine, and get angry when anybody mentions children. To cap it all off none of them are doing very well professionally.

@Eric
Another phenomenon I've noticed is for the more attractive women to move to a major city (NYC, LA, Chicago) and consistently fail to find a man to marry. Although I'm sure we all can imagine what they're doing in the meantime...

Vox said...

The meme we need to drive home with young women is the Four Cs: "College, Career, Cocks, and Cats". Because that's what they're choosing over "Wife and Mother".

Vox said...

Another phenomenon I've noticed is for the more attractive women to move to a major city (NYC, LA, Chicago) and consistently fail to find a man to marry.

Yep. I've seen that too. NEVER encourage a young woman to move to the big city. Most of them never got married or had children. One or two got out in the nick of time and had kids in their very late 30s.

cailcorishev said...

Corvinus, your first point is exactly backwards. It's the women who are delaying marriage; men are going along for the ride because the sex is still plentiful enough (at least for the men attractive enough to demand what they want). Men would be getting married at 20 if most of the 20-year-old girls wanted to get married and weren't giving out the milk for free. Men will do what it takes to get sex (and for most, reproduction). Right now, that doesn't require marriage -- in fact, with many women under 30, the guy bringing up marriage is a sex/relationship killer.

On your second point, it's true that many people today act like an age difference more than 5 years or so is disturbing. But that's mostly driven by women and their parents. You think 30-year-old men wouldn't be happy to marry 20-year-old girls if the girls were interested?

Cataline Sergius said...

I call it the Sex in the City syndrome.

As big lies go it's one the most successful. I can understand why women are into it. Do whatever you want to do and there will be no consequences, everyone likes to hear that. What I don't get is why the White Knights back this play. They are literally getting nothing out of it.

Well actually I know perfectly well what the WKs are getting out of it. The illusion of higher SMV for themselves, by passing a perceived Fitness Test. .




Cataline Sergius said...

Anybody here heard the song 29/31?

Its about a single woman singing at two different ages; 29 and 31

Sample lyrics.

29: When God closes a door, you see, he opens a win-dow.

31: You realize that’s a smaller opening, right? You used to be able to walk out the front door and now you have to climb out some slightly ajar window somewhere, possibly falling five stories to your death.


Don't assume the duo who wrote this have seen the light. Garfunkel and Oates also wrote a song called: Pregnant Women Are Smug.

Laguna Beach Fogey said...

"Do whatever you want to do and there will be consequences"

This is how children and the undeveloped races think.

Laguna Beach Fogey said...

*will be NO consequences

(damn iphone!)

Corvinus said...

@cailcorishev

I understand what you're saying, but I do think there's plenty of blame for both sides.

I suspect that women would be quicker to marry if the average man's Game hadn't gotten so terrible. When all the men around them turn out to be man-boy white-knight pedestalizers who fail every single shit-test the women throw at them, it puts the women off.

Similarly, age gaps are undoubtedly stigmatized more nowadays because so many older men are Gammas and Omegas (which puts the women off), or divorced Alphas looking for a younger model (which puts their families off). Despite how crappy the economy is for young men these days, people still assume that an attractive man will marry young to a woman his own age.

Trust said...

@ Corvinus said...I suspect that women would be quicker to marry if the average man's Game hadn't gotten so terrible.
_______

I suspect the average man's game wouldn't have gotten so terrible if women hasn't leveraged every resource they could to stifle everything about masculinity that they secretly craved.

Earl Thomas said...

'I suspect that women would be quicker to marry if the average man's Game hadn't gotten so terrible. When all the men around them turn out to be man-boy white-knight pedestalizers who fail every single shit-test the women throw at them, it puts the women off.'

I suspect that women would be quicker to marry if the average woman's feminine game hasn't got so reprehensible.

cailcorishev said...

I don't think the average man's Game was all that bad, or particularly worse than his dad's, when I was growing up in the 1980s, and college-age women were already becoming allergic to marriage. No, the causation mostly goes the other way: women started delaying marriage because everyone told them they should do everything else fun and interesting they could think of first, and men reacted accordingly.

I've watched too many women under 35 tell me or other guys, essentially: "I'll sleep with you and even live with you, but I won't marry you." Obviously the Game was good enough and the attraction was there. They just did not want to get married yet. They hadn't checked all the boxes on their "experience life first" list yet.

If a guy with great Game pushed in that situation and told the girl, "No, sex isn't enough for me; it's marriage or I'm out of here," I'm sure some of those women would give in. But not most, and that's never going to happen anyway, because men are built to pursue sex and let women set the requirements for it. It'll never work well the other way around, beyond a few outliers.

I don't mind giving men some blame for going along with feminism, pedestalizing women abdicating their headship, and so on. I can't give them any for delaying marriage, though, because they just aren't the ones making that call.

Vox said...

*will be NO consequences

(damn iphone!)


Why do you think this excuses you? I mean, you CHOSE to use the iPhone....

Laguna Beach Fogey said...

I plan to get rid of it shortly.

Robert What? said...

It's the fault of you damned men who will not man up and marry them on their timetable.

1sexistpig2another said...

This is how children and the undeveloped races think.

What exactly is an undeveloped race?

Eric said...

If a guy with great Game pushed in that situation and told the girl, "No, sex isn't enough for me; it's marriage or I'm out of here," I'm sure some of those women would give in.

Perhaps so. But for the rest of their marriage the resentment would bubble just under the surface. "This guy made me marry him before I had a chance to date all different kinds of men and I missed out on the India trip all my friends went on."

betweenhammerandanvil said...

Right now, that doesn't require marriage -- in fact, with many women under 30, the guy bringing up marriage is a sex/relationship killer.

Too true...

Corvinus said...

@calicorishev

Actually, I think there's a different problem.

One theorem (or postulate, dunno if it's classically provable) that I got from CH is: a man craves sex the same way a woman craves commitment.

Corollary: A woman thinks of her boyfriend the same way a man thinks of his f*ck-buddy. Makes sense -- Alphas have plenty of f*ck-buddies, while hot girls, if they don't have a boyfriend at that exact moment, will have one tomorrow.

Corollary: A man should never be a woman's "boyfriend". "Boyfriend" is a completely phony status that's just as valid as "f*ck-buddy", with one crucial difference: it appears to have some special status of some significance in our current culture, like a pre-fiancé or some such.

But that's not how it works in the women's loins.

The reason these women don't get married is because they have all the commitment they crave from their stable of boyfriends (emotional f*ck-buddies) that they get over the years.

Earl Thomas said...

The idea of a boyfriend is fairly modern. It's a sign of exclusivity without having to make the lifelong commitment. Then people get all mad when they are cheated on or breakup from something that didn't really exist in the first place.

Jim said...

@ Corvinus

I think it would be more accurate to say "a man craves sex the same way a woman craves resources". Commitment is just to assure access to resources. If the average woman could really get paid $5000 (maybe even $1000?) a lay there wouldn't be marriage at all anymore, because women would want commitment like a fish wants a bicycle.

Sue Botchie said...

Perhaps Rachel killed herself because she could no longer handle the single-shaming / cat-lady jokes. What th' f* happened to compassion. Oh, and one other thing, single's-shaming encourages (aging) women to fornicate - that's a sin.

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