Wednesday, September 24, 2014

Alpha Mail: the BETA shield

A reader observes white knights actively defending women from the consequences of their own actions:
A woman-writer posts about getting creeps asking for one-on-one sessions. She jokes that they can have one... for a million dollars, ha ha! So I don't know this person, but I gently point out that this is not the best idea. She's basically admitting she's a prostitute and inviting these same "creeps" to talk her down on the price. This is actually a relatively well known parable that she's put herself into....

Well the reaction is all too typical. Her beta orbiters swoop in to protect her from the insinuation that she need ever have any sense. They have to one up each other showing how cultured, refined, and right-thinking they are with regards to feminism, humanism, and chauvinism. I can't imagine what it must be like... going through life having a veritable team of full time cheerleaders that would do everything in their power to protect you from ever having to think, to reason, or develop a moral compass. But that's what this is....

It is of course even worse in the church. R. C Sproul is a pretty good guy for the most part, but in his survey of the Old Testament a falls apart when he gets to Job. When Job's wife says, "curse God and die," it wasn't such a bad thing, really, and (according to Sproul) we shouldn't get hung up on it. After all, she has such a caring heart that she just wants to have her husband's suffering alleviated. (Never mind that she is basically repeating the words of Satan from a few verses earlier... and never mind that alleviating suffering in this case basically boils down to euthanasia.) The woman's been dead for thousands of years and yet Sproul has to stick up for her.

Women in a Bible study who have lived a sheltered life will respond poorly to anyone that points out what's going on with this. They will even go to the point of defending the abortion of kids with Down Syndrome-- after all, preventing suffering is what our heart is all about, they say. It's unreal the lengths that they will go to avoid having to take a firm moral position on anything.

I have no idea if this revulsion to responsibility is instinctive or socialized, but it is very bad news. It means you cannot rely on women to train children in any aspect of morality, theology, or ethics. But culturally, we defer to them in those matters on the assumption that they tend to be more spiritual than men. The reality is that we've delegated these things to a class of people that have an almost perfect shield against any sort of consequences or responsibility.

One thing about GamerGate is that reveals just how big a thing this really is. Zoe Quinn cheats on her boyfriend and she instantly has every major media outlet at her service to provide shielding. This is why it's futile to argue with women about anything. Not only do they have the option to use unfair tactics and then get a pass on it, but they always always always outnumber you. Tramps, sluts, and even dead women can easily maintain a coalition of twenty people that will routinely shout you down.... It's unreal.
I don't recommend arguing with women about these things. I recommend simply treating this sort of woman with the same disdain and lack of respect you would treat the logic presented by a retarded child attempting to defend his decision to defecate in his own bed. No individual, male or female, who refuses to accept responsibility for his own actions, can be considered a moral adult or an intellectual peer. I don't automatically defer to women on anything, and I certainly don't regard them as peers sans evidence of actual higher brain function.

Now, I trust my wife to train our children because she has reliably demonstrated both the aforementioned brain function as well as acceptance of her moral culpability for her actions. But she is not most women; she has never made a habit of attempting to evade the consequences of her decisions, good or bad. She is observably a moral adult and expects to be treated accordingly. It is a mistake to assume all women are moral children, even if it is a less egregious one than assuming that all women are not only moral adults, but are also morally and spiritually superior to men.

As with men, the proof is in the observable actions. Women can and often will behave like moral adults when they are expected to do so. It should not be surprising that when they are permitted to behave like moral children and permitted to evade negative consequences, many of them elect to do so instead.

And as for being outnumbered, what of it? Being outnumbered doesn't matter so long as you outgun the other side, both literally and intellectually.

Whatever happens, we have got
The naked truth, and they have not.

44 comments:

tz said...

Also note how the orbiters also lack morals. It is the herd where when attacked they all group together. It is a strange group co-dependence - addiction. Like AA, but instead of abstinence, they binge. In this case they all tell each other "you really are a good person" hoping it will enter the void of their heart where their conscience knows differently and that still small voice echoes through it. Pointing out what is actually good and evil is intolerable.

People of character know they fail to live up to the standard, but realize the standard is true, but they are weak. They don't glory in the weakness, but try to overcome it, and can hold others to the standard not unlike someone who does cross the finish line after 26.6M - he can respect someone who tries but can only do 5k for now, but not someone who won't even walk to the corner store.

People climbing the mountain will help each other up. People who desire the nadir resent them.

As to GG and ZQ, I can only note the aggrieved boyfriend's screencaps shows abuse more than elevator vid for Ray Rice (I agree with Vox's analysis though). No one to my knowledge has taken pity on Ray Rice and suggested he should be given support through the backlash, though I suspect he has gotten worse than ZQ. And that is GG in a nutshell, the gaming press was shown ZQ is an evil bitch, yet they continue to all but worship her, sacrificing both their cash and their souls. That is easier for them than to admit they made a huge mistake and were taken in.

I would be happy to use "alleged" in both cases above, but no one else is; if the NFL doesn't need a finding of "guilty" in a court of law, nor the reviewers of EA's parodies, I'm happy to use their standards.

LP 999/Eliza said...

There are no morals in the henhouse just a toxic pool of estrogen.

technogypsy said...

Shouldn't there be an apology to Belloc after the quote at the end?

insanitybytes22 said...

"...the same disdain and lack of respect you would treat the logic presented by a retarded child attempting to defend his decision to defecate in his own bed.."

You people seem to have a strange obsession with expressing distain and disrespect for the so called retarded. Watching you do it while claiming to be following Christ is just abysmal. A little truth here, it is far better to be cognitively impaired than emotionally constipated. Defecating in your bed is preferable to being unable to expel the waste matter residing in our soul. At some point we all stop defecating. Your spirit however, you will be taking with you.

JDC said...

I experienced this white knighting in Bible studies recently. We have been strolling through the O.T. When you look at the actions some of the more prominent women - Eve (encouraging Adam to eat the fruit), Sarai (inviting Abram to lay with Hagar), Sarah (encouraging Jacob to steal pa's blessing), one gets the sense that these gals are not the fairer sex, but in fact the antagonists of the story. I made the point that the women are no better than the men when it comes to obedience and morality. Fireworks ensued. The truth hurts.

alfanerd said...

I was glad to read this. I recently experienced something similar over twitter, and even though I knew full well what I was getting into, the pile-on left me depressed about the state of humanity.

Basically, some woman journalist that I used to follow (sadly this is a relatively conservative journalist) posted a tweet saying 'being in the vagina club only means childbirth and suffering from systemic discrimination'. I replied in 3 tweets:
-men have been dying in wars for eons to protect women, if the boat sinks it's women and children first
-(in Canada) we have a minister for status of women, women's studies at every university, and feminism is basically official state ideology
-white knights will fall over themselves to defend you from my previous 2 tweets

The 3d tweet turned out to be prophetic as I was promptly accused of being a Ray Rice fan, a virgin, a woman-hater, to live on a different planet... all by "men". Notably nobody spoke to defend me and share the abuse, but I did gain a few followers.

White knights want nothing more than to "bravely" defend a woman. It really doesnt matter over what - any pretext will do.

vashine said...

Looking forward to the posts about this one....

http://time.com/3422046/30-is-the-new-50/

Dewave said...

"You people seem to have a strange obsession with expressing distain and disrespect for the so called retarded"

Are you one of them? You seem incapable of grasping the basic principles of the English language.

The object of this sentence is 'logic defending defecating in bed', not 'children'.

Additionally, lack of respect is not the same thing as disrespect, just like a lack of hatred does not indicate the presence of love.

You really need to work harder atmaking your tactic of "skim until offended, disqualify" a little less obvious.

insanitybytes22 said...

"You really need to work harder at making your tactic of "skim until offended, disqualify" a little less obvious."

Not at all. I'm rather enamored with this hall of mirrors actually, this constant projection. Grimly horrified too, a bit like watching a train wreck, but certainly not offended.

"Additionally, lack of respect is not the same thing as disrespect..'

That's almost amusing. Who told you that?

Corvinus said...

"Additionally, lack of respect is not the same thing as disrespect..'

That's almost amusing. Who told you that?


I know women have a hard time with math, but it's like saying that 0 is not the same thing as -100.

Owen said...

I don't know why people bother with ib.

Her points were clearly addressed and soundly rebutted and all she can come up with is, "Oh, yeah?!?! Says you."

totenhenchen said...

@insanitybytes22

According to the quote you pulled, Vox's disdain is not for retarded children, but for the "logic presented by a retarded child attempting to defend his decision to defecate in his own bed.."

You should work on your reading comprehension.

insanitybytes22 said...

"I know women have a hard time with math, but it's like saying that 0 is not the same thing as -100. "

Not trying to be impolite here, but if a woman convinced you that a "lack of respect" is not the same thing as "disrespect," it wasn't her math skills that she was employing. Next I suppose you'll suggest that cold indifference has nothing to do with contempt? Never mind, that's simply too pathetic and sad to contemplate.

This was good however," I can't imagine what it must be like... going through life having a veritable team of full time cheerleaders that would do everything in their power to protect you from ever having to think, to reason, or develop a moral compass."

It was absolutely awesome, thanks for asking! What could possible be better? I'm curious however, why did the author conclude that all the white knights hovering around women would always be so immoral as to fail to teach anyone to think, reason, or have a moral compass? I mean, that would be rather cruel in and of itself, wouldn't it? In fact, wouldn't that pretty much be evidence of their own blatant immorality and selfishness?

So Vox comments and concludes with, "Being outnumbered doesn't matter so long as you outgun the other side, both literally and intellectually." I can see why he didn't also say "morally." Apparently men forfeited that argument long ago.

JCclimber said...

alphanerd,
I have never yet used Twitter, but I've consistently noticed that if I post a non-PC statement on someone's Facebook page, within 2 days I'll get FB friend requests from some of the women friends of that person.

Doesn't even really matter what the topic is, just so long as I'm morally correct and it is contrary to the feminist consensus.

There are a lot of women out there in Amerika today who have the feminism rot seeped deep into their thinking, yet even that mind poison cannot kill the desire to seek alpha behavior.

SarahsDaughter said...

I have no idea if this revulsion to responsibility is instinctive or socialized

Raising daughters has me almost concluding it is instinctive. Knowing they are at a very pivotal stage of maturity we make it a priority to take advantage of every teaching opportunity we have. What they are learning as we help them take responsibility for their actions/moods is that only on the other side of owning one's responsibility is a fantastic thing called grace.

SirHamster said...

>> "You people seem to have a strange obsession with expressing distain and disrespect for the so called retarded"

Are you one of them? You seem incapable of grasping the basic principles of the English language.


In the previous thread, she said something that implied so. Respond accordingly.

vashine said...

Holy shit. This is seriously not the place to go on an "Mentally-challenged-not-retarded" crusade. For the love of God, go away.

swiftfoxmark2 said...

Had a similar problem with a former friend on Facebook. Remember when that pregnant mother of three (not including the child in her womb) drove her van into the ocean?

She felt sorry for the woman and stated that hormones make you do crazy things. I pointed out that her hormone levels were irrelevant and that this mother just committed three acts of attempted murder (four if you oppose abortion). I also pointed out that men have hormones too and that ours make us aggressive, both physically and sexually. Yet nobody ever gets to blame their crimes on testosterone.

So we aren't friends on Facebook anymore. Not my doing either.

Dewave said...

"Not trying to be impolite here, but if a woman convinced you that a "lack of respect" is not the same thing as "disrespect"

This is not a difficult concept. Respect is earned. If you know nothing about a man, you neither respect nor disrespect him. Your opinion of him is at neutral, at zero, and you will treat him in a neutral fashion. As you learn more about him, you may come to hold him either in contempt or respect and in both of these cases, your behavior will differ from your initial behavior. All men are used to sizing up the character of other men in this way.

Not having respect is not the same thing as having disrespect. Thus should be immediately obvious to anyone. It is just the same way that absence of evidence is not the same thing as evidence of absence.

Dewave said...

"I can see why he didn't also say "morally.""

More proof that "skim until offended" is the only tactic insanity knows. VD uses the words "morals/moral/morally" at least 7 times.

seymourbutz said...

Can you imagine the shit that a normal person could accomplish with a dozen or so devoted groupies?

Also, cringeworthy: http://www.youbeauty.com/relationships/short-men-better-husbands-3325. The logic brings to mind a certain someone, though.

Dewave said...

Insanity, from your blog you appear to be a woman. In this case there is no point in you engaging in a discussion about respect, as it is a concept almost wholly foreign to most women. Respect is primarily about the way men interact with other men. Men can respect even their sworn enemies who are trying to kill them. Women don't even respect their other female friends of many years standing m this should not be surprising, since if you don't understand loyalty, you won't understand respect either.

Now, women know that men desire respect, and will often use the word in order to get what they want, but typically they simply do not understand what it means. "I really respect men who wash the dishes! "

I don't say this to condemn women : the traits men desire in their male friends have almost no overlap in the traits females desire in males, nor should we expect there to be so. Women don't sleep with the unemployed charming abusive jerk because they respect him. Likewise, women will react with revulsion and horror to boring creepy guys approaching them, even though the man in question is well respected by his peers because he is honest, hard-working, and loyal. Respect is simply not much of a factor in women's relationship to men. It mostly comes up as a way for churches to excuse the sins of wives by implying that if the husband usn't the kind of man the woman can respect, her failings are actually really all his fault.

Vincent Castrillo said...

I would treat the logic of a retarded child shitting his bed with more respect than most women. At least those children cannot help it and will often listen as best they can to what you the adult say. Women will poop their bed and then get mad at you while they poop in your bed.

Dexter said...

It means you cannot rely on women to train children in any aspect of morality, theology, or ethics. But culturally, we defer to them in those matters on the assumption that they tend to be more spiritual than men.

Even supposed conservatives believe this, e.g. Jonah Goldberg

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/229288/where-feminists-get-it-right/jonah-goldberg

This is why it's futile to argue with women about anything. Not only do they have the option to use unfair tactics and then get a pass on it, but they always always always outnumber you. Tramps, sluts, and even dead women can easily maintain a coalition of twenty people that will routinely shout you down.... It's unreal.

Bullshit on that. It doesn't matter how many people repeat a lie or embrace sin, that does not make it true or good. Me, the truth, and virtue versus twenty (or twenty thousand) lying sluts, I will win, and they won't shut me down.

Dexter said...

You people seem to have a strange obsession with expressing distain and disrespect for the so called retarded. Watching you do it while claiming to be following Christ is just abysmal. A little truth here, it is far better to be cognitively impaired than emotionally constipated. Defecating in your bed is preferable to being unable to expel the waste matter residing in our soul. At some point we all stop defecating. Your spirit however, you will be taking with you.

You went full retard on that comment.

Akulkis said...

It is a strange group co-dependence - addiction. Like AA, but instead of abstinence, they binge. In this case they all tell each other "you really are a good person" hoping it will enter the void of their heart where their conscience knows differently and that still small voice echoes through it. Pointing out what is actually good and evil is intolerable.

TL;DR: They're all exhibit Narcissistic Personality Disorder (and possibly other PD's as well, but NPD at the least).

insanitybytes22 said...

"Respect is simply not much of a factor in women's relationship to men. It mostly comes up as a way for churches to excuse the sins of wives by implying that if the husband usn't the kind of man the woman can respect, her failings are actually really all his fault."

That is really quite heartbreaking. I'm so sorry. It's not true you know, women are more than capable of both respect and loyalty towards men, but you wouldn't believe me even if I told you.

SarahsDaughter said...

It's not true you know, women are more than capable of both respect and loyalty towards men

Not without a relationship with God and a strong understanding of His very specific instruction to wives. Outside of that it is conditional at best. Conditional loyalty? What's the point for a man? Conditional respect? From a wife to her husband is rebellion against God.

You know this is true. You know divorce statistics prove it to be the case as well. It's bad enough you're a non-stop anklebiter, you spew lies and distortions regarding the nature of women in support of Team Woman (yet you claim to not like women) - nothing but a pathetic, lying feminist.

Myles said...

@SarahsDaughter

Damn. You forgot to drop the mic after that one.

insanitybytes22 said...

"...you spew lies and distortions regarding the nature of women in support of Team Woman.."

Not at all, SD. I speak the truth about men and women and I speak the truth about you. You are an example of one of the things I dislike the most about women, your constant need for approval and validation leads you to tell men not what they NEED to hear, but what they WANT to hear. You actually feed off all this wounding, so your motivation revolves around keeping those wounds open and fresh, so you can nurse them and create a kind of dependency. It's common behavior for female cult members.

These men don't see you for what you are SD, but I sure do.

SarahsDaughter said...

~7 out of 10 divorces are filed by women. Yet your truth is that women are loyal.

God made sure to specifically instruct wives to respect their husbands out of obedience to Him yet your truth is this is something that women do naturally.

You are not speaking the truth about women.

It goes without saying that you are not even close to qualified to speaking the truth about men.

Corvinus said...

I'm curious however, why did the author conclude that all the white knights hovering around women would always be so immoral as to fail to teach anyone to think, reason, or have a moral compass? I mean, that would be rather cruel in and of itself, wouldn't it? In fact, wouldn't that pretty much be evidence of their own blatant immorality and selfishness?

Not necessarily. It's because women won't look up to (that's what "respect" means) any BETA white-knight, so it doesn't matter how much of a saint he is, they aren't gonna try to model their behavior after his. The only people who are? Other BETAs, and low-value women.

Incidentally, the successful campaign to portray Jesus Christ as some kind of hippy S.N.A.G. rather than as a confrontational tough guy dishing out RealTalk is exactly THE major reason Christianity is in deep trouble nowadays, and why the vast majority of Christians are pansies.

Tim Pollard said...

insanitybites22: I'm curious however, why did the author conclude that all the white knights hovering around women would always be so immoral as to fail to teach anyone to think, reason, or have a moral compass? I mean, that would be rather cruel in and of itself, wouldn't it? In fact, wouldn't that pretty much be evidence of their own blatant immorality and selfishness?

Corvinus: Not necessarily. It's because women won't look up to (that's what "respect" means) any BETA white-knight, so it doesn't matter how much of a saint he is, they aren't gonna try to model their behavior after his. The only people who are? Other BETAs, and low-value women.

Also providing shelter and support for immorality is an example of immorality itself, though in general a lesser example than the initial evil. (Accessory to X is a lesser crime than X.)

Of course that's not necessarily the case when the initial violator has less moral agency than the one that shelters and protects them (A teenage or mentally handicapped murdered may end up being punished less severely than an adult that concealed it), and an argument can be made that women have less moral agency than men. (Though I would say they still at least had some; perhaps more like a 15 year old boy?)

It's one of the inconsistencies of our society that we refuse to make a decision about how much moral agency women actually have. When it comes to rights and privileges (voting, decisions regarding family and career, etc) women have the full moral agency of an adult male, but when it comes to responsibilities and punishments (criminal cases, drug abuse, the draft, etc) they are treated more like teen boys, or perhaps even younger.

Akulkis said...

You people seem to have a strange obsession with expressing distain and disrespect for the so called retarded. Watching you do it while claiming to be following Christ is just abysmal

So, your argument is that the retarded do NOT have literally RETARDED intellectual development and decision-making abilities, and thus the characterization is unfair?

I'm sorry.. but expecting the retarded to function as a 100 IQ person is just as terrible as demanding that a parapalegic try out for the NBA... AND NEVER STOP MAKING THE DEMAND.

Akulkis said...

OR to summarize more succinctly:

@insanitybytes...
SIT THE FUCK DOWN
SHUT THE FUCK UP.

Doorstop said...

Now that GG/insanitybytes has lectured us about how un-Christian it is to call retarded behavior retarded, I'm waiting for her to tell us that Jesus NEVER referred to his opponents as being blind or deaf.

Vox said...

Stop flapping your rancid vagina, GG. You're a liar, plain and simple. And Sarah's Daughter understands male-female relations much better than you do, mostly because she's not a lying idiot.

Now go to your father the Devil, you old troll.

tonsplace said...

@ SD
I disagree darling. Strongly. The more churched a girl the worse she behaves toward men. I will never date a Christian girl again
Ton

SarahsDaughter said...

I know you do, Ton. I understand why. Notice though, I didn't say "churched" - I said "a relationship with God and a strong understanding of his specific instructions to wives." For a Christian woman, this is essential and it is very rare for one to focus solely on God's commands to her. You've read what I've had to say on the matter, it can not be conditional with regards to the husband. And without the moral foundation of God's commands, what would a woman, married to an average guy, base her loyalty and respect for him on?

It may be possible for a woman to respect a man and be loyal unconditionally without a relationship with God or his Word, and perhaps you have found a couple of those women (I don't know any except for the women I know married to very high status men). From what I understand, though, it is much less about those women's character than it is about the man you are to them. Very few men can maintain that frame all the time because most men are natural Delta's and are on ever sliding scale of the hierarchy. When they slip back to their Delta/low Delta habits for any myriad of reasons, if their wife's respect is conditional, she will lose respect for him and worse act disrespectfully toward him. If he stays there in his Delta frame, her loyalty will wane.

insanitybytes22 said...

"Now go to your father the Devil, you old troll"

My Father is not the one you serve, Theodore Beale. From your behavior it is more than obvious that you've never even met Christ.

liberranter said...

I experienced this white knighting in Bible studies recently. 

That's to be expected as the norm in any "bible study"* conducted by a churchian conglomerate. They go together like cbarcoal and smoke.

(* Was it really BIBLE study, or, as is much more typical of churchianity, a group reading of some "Christian" bestselling book that merely mentioned some parts of the Bible in passing?)

JDC said...
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JDC said...

It was really a Bible study. We opened our Bibles and read from them. I am an LCMS pastor. The LCMS has been and will be called many things, but churchian conglomerate is not one of them. For one who has set a goal to induce critical thinking in others, you have failed in this instance with your big paint brush and your misinformed conclusions.

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