Tuesday, December 17, 2013

Be tall

You might want to reconsider those flat-soled topsiders:
Researchers analysed more than 80,000 interactions between users of the dating website in the UK.They found that every inch increase in a man's height directly correlated to his likelihood of being contacted by a woman.  Taller men were significantly more likely to be contacted by women than shorter men.

Their data revealed that the ideal height women seek in a man is 6ft. The 6ft men who were members of the site were 33 per cent more likely to be contacted than a man of average height (5ft 7), and 77 per cent more likely to be contacted than a man under 5ft 4.... The study by Dutch researchers found that women were most satisfied when they were much shorter than their male partners by about 7-8 inches.
I'm a little surprised that the 6-foot advantage is only one-third. The good news is that this is knowledge you can use to your advantage. For example:
  • Wear shoes in the house. Women always go barefoot.
  • Start wearing cowboy boots
  • Add an inch with sole inserts
Conversely, height is an interesting sexual metric. The close a man is to his wife's height, the more alpha his personality is likely to be. The man you want to be wary of is the man of average height with an unusually tall wife. He's too tall to have a Napoleon complex or be compensating for his lack of height, but he's dominant enough to attract an Amazon.


Conscientia Republicae said...

The man you want to be wary of is the man of average height with an unusually tall wife. He's too tall to have a Napoleon complex or be compensating for his lack of height, but he's dominant enough to attract an Amazon.

There is a guy at my church who falls into this category. Very masculine with a really good looking blonde wife who is about 4 inches taller than he is. I don't know how tall she is without heels on, but she doesn't wear flats.

RambleAround said...

Any chance CH could kindly elaborate on why we should be wary of him, or what is meant by that?

RambleAround said...

My sincerest apologies, I meant Vox.

ManiaC Provost said...

If such a man makes eye contact with you, you will feel an uncontrollable, primal urge to fight it out in the church foyer. That's why you must keep him out of your territory.

Conscientia Republicae said...


No need to fight. We are good friends and fellow Christians. We even make fart jokes together over email.

8to12 said...

It's worth emphasizing the Game advantage tall men have with SOME women, because many tall men are oblivious to it. I certainly was in my youth. I'm 6-4, but I was also quiet, introverted, and bit on the nerdy side in my youth. It wasn't until I got older that I realized the effect of being in the presence of a tall man (me or otherwise) had on SOME women. Weak in the knees is the best phrase to describe it.

The only analogy I can compare it to is what happens to SOME men when they are in the presence of an extremely busty woman. You've seen those guys; they lose the ability to concentrate and think, because they can't get their minds off the woman's attributes.

Being tall isn't a golden ticket with women, but it certainly doesn't hurt. Every man has his strong and weak points, and he should certainly try to play up his strengths and play down his weaknesses. If you are tall, you should use that attribute to your advantage.

Eric Wilson said...

Then posture certainly can help too. Keeping a straight back and your chin up may add a couple inches as well.

JDC said...

I will say that there is an unspoken bonus to having a wife that is taller than you (I am 5'7" and my wife is 6'0" [6'5" with the afro]), and that is tall children. My 10 y/o is 2 inches shorter than me - and should bypass dad by the time she is 12. There was great laughter amongst my family a few months ago, when, at a wedding reception I enjoyed a dance with my wife - in heels (I really should remember the shoe-lift / boots / cowboy hat accessory option).

JDC said...

I should add that my wife was wearing the heels, and not me. I mean - were Christians after all...men wearing heels is better left to the Methodists.

Trust said...

I challenge any feminists to explain why women are well within their rights to prefer height while men are bafoons for preferring long hair?

lostsailor32 said...

I second the suggestion of wearing western boots. I've worn them consistently for the last 25 years and they're a great way to add at least an inch of height. Plus, they are extremely comfortable. I have standard black and brown pairs but also some more exotic leathers such as python and ostrich, and they get noticed because they are different. They go with virtually anything from a suit to bluejeans.

But unless you are actually in Texas, leave of the cowboy hat. Seriously, that's just foolishness...

Joe A. said...

This is frustrating, but it's reality. It's actually humorous to see the positive effect of just using sole inserts has had for me.

Bob said...

Amusingly they all sit and go on about how shallow men are, then demand that any bloke who contacts them needs to be x inches higher than them, because they like to wear heels..

Trust said...


To women, what is a contradiction and hypocritical to men is actually consistent in the eyes of women. It is okay for women to prefer tall men because that is what they want, but it is wrong for men to prefer something because women don't want it to inhibit them.

Men understand that they can't tell women what to be attracted to. Women on the other hand will probably gasp so hard they swallow their iPhones at the suggestion that men have the same right to their preferences.

8to12 said...

@Eric Wilson,

A lot of tall young men have a habit of slouching. It's an attempt to reduce their height so they don't stand out as much.

I developed a habit of sitting on the edge of tables. It was an attempt to reduce my height so I would be at eye level. It was the exact opposite of what I should have been doing. Maintain your height and let the woman look up at you.

Hugging is another area where you should maintain your height. For most of my life I would bend over when giving a woman a hug (as in a hello or goodbye hug) so it would be cheek to cheek. Now I maintain my height (which puts her face against my chest or shoulder) and just pull them into me in a bear hug. It produces an entirely different reaction. ;)

4ab2dda0-3c27-11e3-9ef4-000f20980440 said...

I am 5'6".

I have dated women who were 5-8, 5-9, 5-10, and 5-11. All good looking. 5-9 girl was 10 years younger.

I'm only a little alpha, and back then I was more nice guy beta.

I think that some taller girls are less picky, because they have experienced the other side of height discrimination.

Short girls are the biggest c----s of all, really. I have women 6" shorter than me who won't date me, but women 3" taller who will.

And guess which girl will hide five extra pounds better, lol.

8to12 said...


Agree that taller women are less picky/stuck-up, but that's because they consider their height a negative. It's true that some men won't date a girl that is taller than they are.

4ab2dda0-3c27-11e3-9ef4-000f20980440 said...

I consider tall girls a vast, untapped (heh) source of interesting dating.

Some Guy said...

"Any chance CH could kindly elaborate on why we should be wary of him, or what is meant by that?"

Because he is Alpha to the core and will AMOG you in front of your woman as fast as look at you.

cb6f3d30-2f6b-11e3-9035-000bcdca4d7a said...

5'7" is average height for men? That's my height, and I've always thought I was shorter than average.

Rich Hill said...

Most women consider 6ft to be average height for a man.

8to12 said...

According to the linked chart, the average height for men in the US is 5-10.2. In the UK it is 5-9.6.

height chart

I've been pulling some numbers for a post on men's height, and found these numbers for Americans:

Men 5-9 or over: 60%
Men 6-0 or over: 18%
Men 6-2 or over: 5%
Men 6-3 or over: 2%
Men 6-4 or over: 1%

The point is that when women put "tall" at the top of their list, they exclude the majority of men (where have all the men gone?).

cailcorishev said...

Most women consider 6ft to be average height for a man.

Because most of the short ones are invisible to them.

Eric Wilson said...


Since becoming red pill aware, posture, and how I walk are things that I've tried to change. I used to walk and look at my feet as I went, so as to avoid tripping, etc. Now I make it a point NOT to look at my feet. I keep my head up and back straight while walking. I don't know if it actually makes me look taller, but I do know that forcing myself to walk like that makes me more confident.

eidolon hope said...

I have always felt that the Napoleon complex was just the reaction of taller people to shorter ones giving orders or being assertive. People associate height with authority and maturity, neither of which children, who are shorter than their adult peers with previously mentioned traits, have.

Jack Amok said...

A lot of tall young men have a habit of slouching.

I'm 6'4". When I was a clueless kid going out to night clubs, I thought my height was a terrible handicap because I hand to bend over to hear anything a woman was saying to me. Her mouth was usually a good foot below my ears, and in the din of the typical club, I couldn't hear unless I slouched and bent over to hear.

Needless to say, this didn't score me many points. It also annoyed me. So eventually I stopped bending over to hear.

I'd never heard of "Game" at that point, but the results were startling. I stumbled into Aloof Game because I couldn't hear what they were saying to I just sort of ignored them. What a difference that made...

dannyfrom504.com said...

I'm 5'4 and I'm not great looking. Yet I still do quite well. Game, confidence and swagger trump height.

I'm proof.

Nomennovum said...

"The close a man is to his wife's height, the more alpha his personality is likely to be."

I have come to believe this too. My ex-wife was about my height. When we were dated, she was clearly impressed by my status and bearing. (Unfortunately, after being married for some time I became more beta-ish. She never commeted about my height until the marriage was on the rocks.)

I also agree that taller women tend to be less concerned with a man's height. Short women tend to be very picky in this regard. Perhaps it's a genetic thing: Women want to produce the most alpha children. Height is a marker of the alpha. The shorter she is, the taller he must be to compensate for her short genes.

Doom said...

I didn't see anything about those who are well over the line. At 6'5, and growing still, I am curious. I don't have problems meeting women, should I get off my butt, but I am curious how niche the interest is in much taller than average men. I simply don't honestly know, from some perspectives. It's nice to understand, more fully, the game and the worth of the cards one is dealt is all. We are so relatively rare, or modern, guys in my height range, that... I'm not sure we are included in much data testing?

8to12 said...


I know at least one of the PUA gurus say that for every inch over 6-4 you start losing points with women, so I guess there is such a thing is too tall.

On the other hand, I'm a big believer in niche marketing. Even if most women would find a 6-10 guy too tall, there is bound to be a subset of women that find a 6-10 guy irresistible.

In target/niche marketing you play to your strengths, even if your strengths are something quirky. Bald used to be a handicap for men. Then men quit trying to cover it up and instead started to emphasize it--completely shaving their heads. Suddenly bald became not a handicap, but an advantage. Not all women love bald guys, but apparently enough do.

I wouldn't worry about being too tall (you can't change it anyway), but instead see if there is a way to turn it to your advantage.

Alphaisassumed has a post at his site titled "smell the glove" that essentially boils down to a growing trend among women wanting to be super-dominated by men. Height is the ultimate dominance signal. Hit some weights; work on your voice; and develop a confident to cocky attitude and you might find you will present an irresistible combo to those women.

Doom said...

Actually, my niche isn't height, it is dealing with women who don't like things about me. I am extremely outspoken and very anti-feminist. Yet my last fiancee was a feminist. And, yeah, it worked quite well. She wanted me, just didn't want to marry, so I headed out. Not completely fair though. I met her when I was strictly, mostly, barbarian and then became a Catholic in that time, or was headed to it. So... The dynamics changed around our relationship. Hell yeah I had her whipped, without seems, needlework, or violence save occasionally of mind. She was a fine piece of angry ass, let me tell you. Fangs, claws, and fur. Yum!

Just curious. I like when they don't like something(s). So, that's all good for me. Angry hateful little women are the easiest to reel in, all I'm saying.

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