Tuesday, July 2, 2013

Killer Game

The badder the boy, the hotter he is:
Unfortunately, there are many misguided, if not downright reprehensible, people out there lamenting not the impact this murder case will have on their fantasy football team, but instead the incarceration of an updated version of OH AN HE SEXY.

I first came across someone noting not how terrible it is that a man is dead, or even that a promising career is likely over, but rather that hotness has been wasted when I saw this:

    Hernandez, you were so hot. WHY?????
    VF Castro (@VFdoesFootball) June 26, 2013

Perhaps that’s just a taste of what you can find in Miss Castro’s upcoming book, The Modern Girl’s Guide to the Gridiron. Because I guess women need gender-specific reading to understand the sports things because, like, there’s so much more than those cute tight pants and stuff.

But, hey, isolated ignorance, I thought. Later that day, though, comedian Neil Hamburger began retweeting more and more people who find murder not to be the biggest crime in all this. If you’ve ever wondered how serial killers and other prisoners can get letters from incredibly pathetic strangers promising marriage, this is how. It’s what Tommy Tomlinson wrote about regarding the beautiful women at Rae Carruth’s trial: “It reminded me again of the raw sexual power that a great athlete can have — even one charged with putting out a hit on his pregnant girlfriend.”

For being a detriment to every female who has worked so hard to break down stereotypes in the sports world, these folks deserve a public shaming. So come along as we put the microscope on some seriously misguided people whose parents have failed hard.

    Am I the only one who thinks Aaron Hernandez is still sexy even if he is a murderer?
    (@candymkvi) June 30, 2013

Nope. You have many terrible peers below.

    Leave Aaron Hernandez alone .. He's sexy as hell
    Steph (@StephMurillox3) July 01, 2013
The remarkable thing is that while Aaron Hernandez is a physical specimen, he is also a dull-eyed brute who looks as if he shambled out of a cave where he spent the afternoon raping bears.  Keep this in mind the next time a woman tells you that what women find attractive is a man who is a gentleman.

32 comments:

swiftfoxmark2 said...

A man who kills without remorse is viewed as a protector by half-savages. After all, better to have a murderer protecting you than a gentleman.

A said...

Whenever I see a brutish/thuggish guy, I can't help but think that my wife finds that as sexy as I do a young female with a tight body. The difference, perhaps, being that one tears down civilization and creates damaged children, and the other simply reproduces and buys things. I have no desire to imitate a badboy/thug, even in roleplay, because I find that culture to be revolting, but it's unnerving to know that it's catnip at the back of every woman's mind.

Stickwick Stapers said...

I find that culture to be revolting, but it's unnerving to know that it's catnip at the back of every woman's mind.

Please understand that it is not catnip at the back of every woman's mind. The kind of woman who finds thugs sexy is in the same class as a man who finds super-fake slutty women sexy. Both are grotesque caricatures of what most women and men find attractive in the opposite sex.

Now, as a reasonably well-adjusted woman, I think my preferences for men are generally representative of most women. I once said here that I find a bit of brutality appealing in a man, and someone quite rightly pointed out how base that was. It was a poor choice of word on my part, because it implies savagery. What I meant is that I desire a man who is psychologically and physically capable of violence when it is necessary. (Is there one word that encapsulates that?) Despite feminist delusions to the contrary, women are physically quite vulnerable, and our children even more so. We need men who can protect us. Just as a man looks for genetic suitability for his offspring in a woman who is feminine and shapely, a woman looks for the same for her and her offspring in a man who can and will protect them. For men, that natural desire for femininity and shapeliness can sometimes be twisted into a desire for something grotesquely exaggerated with unnaturally huge fake boobs and super-slutty behavior; for women, that natural desire for masculinity and physical/psychological fitness can be twisted into a desire for something grotesquely exaggerated with a criminal mentality and savage behavior. That does not suggest that all men and women find those caricatures appealing in the back of their minds.

Any healthy man would find a young woman with a tight body sexy; the counterpart to this is a physically fit man with the capacity to commit violence in a way that preserves civilization rather than tears it apart.

Stickwick Stapers said...

The remarkable thing is that while Aaron Hernandez is a physical specimen, he is also a dull-eyed brute who looks as if he shambled out of a cave where he spent the afternoon raping bears.

By the way, this is wonderfully descriptive, and made me laugh out loud. Also, the man looks like a human doodle pad.

Emrys Myrddin said...
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Emrys Myrddin said...

"What I meant is that I desire a man who is psychologically and physically capable of violence when it is necessary. (Is there one word that encapsulates that?)"

Are compounds allowed? Because last time I checked, 'Badass' encapsulated psychological and physical capability to excel at violence when it is necessary, which necessarily implies mere capability as well.

Stickwick is right. The desire for thug is a perversion of the natural and good female desire for badassery, which in turn is the counterpart of the natural male need to be badass.

A thug will always hold some attraction because he is a variant of the badass, but to a woman whose emotions are in proper order, badassery without thuggery is the superior badassery for the same reason a wine drinker is regarded as superior to a beer drinker.

Huggums said...

"The remarkable thing is that while Aaron Hernandez is a physical specimen, he is also a dull-eyed brute who looks as if he shambled out of a cave where he spent the afternoon raping bears."

How so? Just saw a picture of the guy. I've seen some people who look like the "dull-eyed brute" you describe, but I don't get a cave-bear-raping vibe from this guy.

Awoman said...

yes, it is disgusting...
Women sending OJ proposals...
Men sending Casey Anthony proposals.
I bet there are men sending Jody Arias love notes.
Didn't one of the Menendez brothers get married in jail?
I echo Stickwick's response. This is not catnip in the back of every woman's mind. I saw the photo for days straight and never did one "sexy" hair lift on my body. Just disgust that a human being did this to his "friend." That psychopaths like this exist...
I want to further say that men and women who respond to these killers are maladjusted, damaged goods who are looking for a reality-show of their very own. And that is the nicest way I can describe these pscyhological deviants. They are NOT "every woman."
I will not claim them as part of my species..

dannyfrom504.com said...

you SOB, you beat me to this. i was going to write about it tomorrw. RATS!!!! FOILED AGAIN!!!! lol.

MikeT said...

It just occurred to me that anyone wanting to start an online dating service would do well to create one that passes itself off as a criminal background check service and is advertised by word of mouth.

boxsterpaul said...

MikeT,

No really its a valid link....
http://www.meet-an-inmate.com

Retrenched said...

Nothing makes a 'gina tingle like a killer.

MikeT said...

boxsterpaul,

I'm thinking more like a site that gins up a fake rap sheet for guys who want thug credentials but don't want to go through the messy business of going to prison.

Trust said...

Wasn't there a story a while back about a man who, after months of getting no response to online dating ads, updated his ad to say he was on parole... and started getting responses?

The problem is not so much that women are drawn to bad... that is simply a biological reality that will never change. A bigger problem is the denial of this reality, which leads men and women alike to respond inappropriately to it.

Retrenched said...

@ Mike T

But what happens when the women realize that these guys are not real criminals, that the guys they slept with were just regular guys? They might feel raped.

e96dd1c6-d05b-11e2-ad29-000bcdcb2996 said...

Paging Miss 1963...to smack her granddaughter with a frying pan.

Two points:
First, who said a gentleman is NOT capable of violence? I maintain that a properly educated gentleman MUST be well-trained in the fighting arts. This goes all the way back to settling disputes on the field of honor.

Second, Stickwick is right. We're talking about boobs with boobs, not intelligent human life.

theman said...

"I desire a man who is psychologically and physically capable of violence when it is necessary."

You desire a champion, a paladin, a King David, a Braveheart.

Conscientia Republicae said...

My father told me that the word "gentleman" used to mean a man who was capable of violence when appropriate but exercised restraint and self discipline.

He was born on a different planet.

Weouro said...

Lady used to have certain implications, too. Which are probably farther gone than those of gentleman. At least people have a vague idea of what a gentleman was. Nobody remembers what a lady used to be.

Bogey said...

Look at it this way, now you can check a potential mate's intelligence by reading what she has to say about an alleged murderer on twitter, and be relieved that you can dismiss her from carrying on your genes.

and this for comparison:

http://www.theglobaldispatch.com/sex-scandal-teacher-debra-lafave-loses-appeal-probation-reinstated-21679/

Every dude I've ever spoken to always says the same thing "I'd hit it."

Trust said...

@Bogey said... Every dude I've ever spoken to always says the same thing "I'd hit it."
_________

Yes, but her crimes didn't increase how attractive men find her.

cailcorishev said...

I echo Stickwick's response. This is not catnip in the back of every woman's mind.

Yes, NAWALT. The better ones are able to have their good sense override their base attraction when a guy's violence goes from potential to outright deadly. But I'm afraid you're outnumbered. This guy can get more tail in one afternoon -- even now -- than I got in 1992-1994.

Let's put it this way: for every woman who's looking for a mild-mannered, caring, good-providing, would-never-hit-a-woman, nice guy, there are a thousand or so who would rather have the cave-bear-raper.

cailcorishev said...

Yes, but her crimes didn't increase how attractive men find her.

Exactly. While I still find her attractive, I'm also more aware of the crazy in her eyes than I would be if I'd just met her cold. So her crime makes me more wary, not more interested. I don't like hearing about a prospective partner's past romances (though it's necessary) in the normal case; I certainly wouldn't want to hear about this one.

Stickwick Stapers said...

Yes, NAWALT. The better ones are able to have their good sense override their base attraction when a guy's violence goes from potential to outright deadly. But I'm afraid you're outnumbered.

This is one of those rare times when I'll stick up for my sex. I contend that a sizable majority of women would not respond to a criminal thug like Hernandez. A disturbing minority, sure, but I very much doubt it's to the point that it warrants a NAWALT disclaimer.

How much of a minority? I don't know, but I think we can estimate it. I've seen claims that the kind of woman who is compelled by violent criminal thugs has been smacked around, herself, or is willing to be smacked around. According to several concerned women's organizations, an estimated 30% of women are in abusive relationships. SInce that's a nebulous term that includes "other" abuse besides physical, and knowing that these leftoid orgs almost always inflate their numbers, let's estimate that 15% of the adult, reproducing female population is involved somehow in physical abuse and would be turned on by violent thugs to the point that they'd get involved with such men. I think that's probably close to the real number (which may differ if you break it down by race). Why does it seem like so many more women are into thugs? Well, 15% is on the order of 10 million women, which is a lot, and would explain why there is no shortage of women to love up the bear-rapers.

The reason a guy like Hernandez isn't universally appealing to women is that he looks like a stupid, uncouth, shambling barbarian. There's a limited market for that. Greater in number are the kind of women who are turned on by intelligent, charming, lovable, not-ostensibly-violent psychopaths like Bill Clinton. Oh, sure, there are rumors that he raped a woman, but it's probably just a lie made up by people who are against him, and in any case it adds an element of danger and mystery. How exciting!

Let's put it this way: for every woman who's looking for a mild-mannered, caring, good-providing, would-never-hit-a-woman, nice guy, there are a thousand or so who would rather have the cave-bear-raper.

Even if the proportion is something close to that, what does it prove? It's not as though it's a binary choice between nice-guy and bear-raper. That's like saying for every man who's looking for a plain, nice, overweight woman with short hair, there are a thousand or so who would rather have a slender, long-haired, pole-dancing super-slut. While it's generally true that far more men would prefer the latter to the former, that doesn't mean most men would pursue the latter type of woman.

Conscientia Republicae said...

Every dude I've ever spoken to always says the same thing "I'd hit it."

Yeah, but I guarantee that none of the guys that would hit it would marry it or even call it the next day after sex.

cailcorishev said...

Stickwick,

I don't really disagree with anything you're saying, so here's where I'm coming from: most men need to be disabused of the pedestalized view they have of women, and if my younger self is any indication, subtle hints won't do it. Guys need to be shocked out of it by evidence they can't ignore.

If we say that only a minority of women are attracted to a violent thug, the blue-pill guy translates "minority" to mean "just the crazy ones, but definitely not my sweet Susie." In his world, you can draw a line between the good girls and the bad girls, and the good girls are made of sugar and spice. My goal is to convince him that yes, even his sweet Susie might find a violent thug more attractive than him -- that he can't assume that tendency is restricted to bar skanks and women who seem to walk into doors an awful lot. I want him to see that -- just as you said -- it's not binary, with bad girls who go to biker rallies on one side and good girls who prefer a nice, quiet walk home after church on the other. I want him to understand that the question isn't, "Is she attracted to aggressive men?" but, "What level of aggression does she find attractive?" If a 1 is a white-knight who lets her plan the date and apologizes when he bumps her arm in the theater, and a 100 is a serial rapist-murderer, is she a 20? A 40?

The important thing is to make him understand that there are no 1s on that scale, and he'll be a lot more attractive to sweet Susie if he stops suppressing whatever masculine instincts he still has and rises up the scale a little. I don't really care what the numbers are, like the percentage of women attracted to this particular thug, as long as they get my listener's attention.

As I said, I'm basically talking to my younger self here, and I know how resistant I was to seeing this reality, despite all the evidence around me. I want to grab myself and shake him, yelling, "Look at these chicks tweeting about this guy! These are not just a few rare whores and crazies! There are crowds of them, and they look just like all the girls you've ever had tell you they didn't want to spoil the friendship! You need to check your assumptions and figure out why this doesn't make sense, and for my sake, don't wait until you're 35 to do it!"

I don't want him to go to the other extreme and start hating women and thinking they're animals in heat, either. That does happen -- you can see it on these blogs at times -- but I think the danger of that is much less than the danger of such men staying in their comfortable blue-pill views and never learning.

Stickwick Stapers said...

Cail,

You raise a good point. It still surprises me that any man would think even the sweetest, most feminine woman doesn't respond viscerally to a manly man. Myself, I'm a gentle, warm-hearted woman who will go out of my way to avoid stepping on a bug, and yet I prefer a man who can be stone-cold and quite capable of violence. That being said, the predatory criminal aspect disgusts me. I want an Aragorn, not an orc.

Ghost said...

I heard a rumor that right after Magic Johnson's press conference announcing that he got the hivvies, there was still a line of groupies waiting for him at his hotel.

I don't know if it's true, but it's damn sure believable.

Weouro said...

I've been trying to come up with a word for one capable of controlled violence. I think just plain "man" is the best modern usage, since "hero/champion/paladin" are all old-fashioned. His counterpart is more easily defined. There are lots of words for brutes and cowards. "Rabbit" comes to mind.

Unknown said...

"Despite feminist delusions to the contrary, women are physically quite vulnerable, and our children even more so. We need men who can protect us."

In the wise words of Mark Minter....

Protection FROM WHAT? Lady, there aren’t any Sabre Tooth Tigers anymore. The shit you need to be protected from is a bill collector, homelessness, lack of esteem from lacking in financial capacity, and sacrifices your kids will make from lack of resources.

This isn't a hunter-gatherer society any more. Everything you could possibly need for "protection" is already provided. I hate when women tout this nonsense about how they need a man capable of violence to "protect" her. What you need is a man who can put a roof over your head and provide for your future and your children's future. That's not likely going to come in the form of a tatted up ex-con badboy. Wake up.

cailcorishev said...

Protection FROM WHAT?

From themselves, mostly.

Galt-in-Da-Box said...

How do you think so many teenage pregnancies happen, usually because dumblond Donkette is all hot and bothered over the biggest prick in school - especially if dude is a 'chucker or greaser.
Donkette (after the pump-and-dump) "That guy was an @$$hole! He treated me like $#!+!!!"
Me: (after having heard this jag from her for the thousandth time) "If he was such an @$$hole, WHY DID YOU FUCK HIM!?"
Whining, simpering.
Me: "Well?"
Donkette: "YOU just DON'T UNDERSTAND how I FEEEEEEL!"

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