Now, keep in mind, the picture above is of the woman who said this. Moreover, she said that about a man who was not only an athlete from a wealthy, attractive family, but a founding member of an award-winning rock band with three Billboard-charting dance hits. How does this make any sense at all? Why would a grotesque toad like Nielsen Hayden ever claim something so patently ridiculous?
The reason is that most men are insecure about their sexual appeal. Women know this and they instinctively attempt to play on that insecurity in an attempt to gain the upper hand. This is fairly automatic for them, no matter how low they are on the totem pole, because they are accustomed to thinking of themselves as the pursued, ergo, the more desirable, even if this has absolutely no possible relationship to the actual male-female interaction involved.
And consider: if an obese troll like this is going to attempt to play the sex card with a man who wouldn't dream of touching her with his worst enemy's 10 foot-pole in his scariest nightmare, what will a normal girl who is actually in your league going to do? The answer is to maintain frame. Ideally, your response to a woman playing the sex card should be to respond exactly as if the girl looks like Ms Nielsen Hayden, with a mixture of amusement and genuine horror.
We apologize in advance for any nightmares this post may inadvertently inspire.
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Yikes. And I used to be afraid to approach females?
In the immortal words of Austin Powers:
That's not a woman, that's a man baby.
I just looked up Xander Harris and realized why he is her quote of choice. His most current role, he has added at least 80 ponds and was in love with a... well land whale would be generous. He can be found on Criminal Minds.
Ugh! My genitals just retreated in terror into my abdominal cavity.
The reason is that most men are insecure about their sexual appeal. Women know this and they instinctively attempt to play on that insecurity in an attempt to gain the upper hand.
Expand this into a post please.
That's a fat man wearing a wig.
Say what you will, I like her in "It's always sunny in philadelphia"
That's no moon...
Look at here smile!
Was it Coulter or Malkin you disagreed with on deportation? I forget but it would be hilarious if it was Coulter and (s)he couldn't even get that right.
Look at [her] smile!
The thing is, her basic facial structure isn't bad, and you can tell by looking at her wrist and hand that she has delicate bone structure. If she lost weight, got a more flattering hair style, applied a little makeup, and dressed nicely, she would be pretty.
If my monitor gets warts from displaying her picture, I'm sending the bill here.
Ugh. My breakfast just turned sour in my stomach.
My, how life changes once you learn to always maintain frame.
For those who are Christians, note how Jesus ALWAYS maintained frame, in front of Pontius Pilate, the woman at the well, the woman accused of adultery, even when awakened from a sound sleep into the middle of a sea storm.
"Worst enemies 10 foot pole"
So Scalzi DOES have something going for him..
Wow that is a frightening looking woman. And I think her quote was from his days on "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" before he fattened up and his female companions did the same
The Crisco Crusaders always lay claim to being familiar with having sex.
They mistake the fact that people roll them over and baste them like a turkey once in a while as having actual sex.
They're not having sex. They're being used as low end masturbatory relief.
Her Xander Harris (Buffy the Vamp slayer ref) comment probably places her in the Rabbit camp.
I wonder about how many cats she has.
Vox, I'm listening to and enjoying Silicon Jesus right now after reading this post.
Since most women can get sex much more easily than most men it is a sore point for many men, that they can't get laid as easily.
Many women will use this as a way to shame men into silence and submission.
But that ability to get laid easily is nothing for women to brag about. It's like a delicious cake bragging about how it can be put in the room with 10 hungry people and be quickly devoured.
Vox, if I remember your bio, I'm thinking that the appropriate response would be "Well, this will come as something of a surprise to Spacebunny."
Then, the absurdity trap being laid, you can point out the tactic of playing on mens' sexual insecurities. Sometimes, the less said, the better.
As a Sonoran desert toad I find the labeling of Ms. Hayden as a "grosteque toad" offensive. I quote the good Sir Thomas Browne: "I cannot tell by what logic we call a toad, a bear, or an elephant ugly; they being created in those outward shapes and figures which best express the actions of their inward frames; and having passed that general visitation of God, who saw that all that he had made was good. Sir Thomas Browne, 1642.
I would point out that licking *me* brings on a state of euphoria and a series of oft time pleasant hallucinations, while licking Ms. Nielson would cause spastic uncontrolled vomiting and give you Herpes. Please be more sensitive in your use of the word Toad in the future. As you can see here: http://www.erowid.org/archive/sonoran_desert_toad/images/amplexus.jpg our couplings are *FAR* less offensive looking than Ms. Nielsons.
*Ribbit*
While I'm aware that absurd accusations merit corresponding rebuttals, posting someone's picture as an object of mockery on a blog where not everyone is following the SFWA debacle is a little much.
Fighting fire with fire is ok, fighting crap with crap still leaves you covered in crap...
For those who are Christians, note how Jesus ALWAYS maintained frame, in front of Pontius Pilate, the woman at the well, the woman accused of adultery, even when awakened from a sound sleep into the middle of a sea storm.
It comes as no surprise that God incarnate would be Himself with perfect consistency. I'm not sure that frame maintenance applies in this particular case.
Double E said...
Say what you will, I like her in "It's always sunny in philadelphia"
Hey now, take that back. Danny Devito does not deserve that.
@Oak
Better to confront with extreme force than to be nice.
Read this again: "It's really, really obvious that VD is not acquainted with actual women. I don't just mean sexual relations. I mean he's had little or no social interaction of any sort.... It's pretty clear that VD fears and dislikes women."
Oh yeah, Theresa? You're gonna be nasty and ugly with your words? Talking about how someone can't relate or get any nookie? Have a slice right back. It's only fair, since men and women deserve equal treatment, right?
Better to confront with extreme force than to be nice.
I'm familiar with the idea and don't disagree, but there are many ways to hit back with extreme force which don't make you look somewhat childish.
I have no business criticizing anyone for going for the jugular. Been there, done that. Even when it made absolutely no sense. And apparently there is some risk you could get banned from your club or whatever. But no one gives a squat what those low lifes think. I'll bet not even their best friends, assuming they have have such an animal, gives diddly squat.
posting someone's picture as an object of mockery on a blog where not everyone is following the SFWA debacle is a little much.
And inadvertently it appears you agree the mere posting of the picture is mockery. Hmmm, wonder why.
It is so amusing that there is no refuting the absurdity that is her physical appearance, only the bemoaning that it was used to make a point of her ludicrous assertion that VD hasn't been associated with actual women. It can't be helped - male, female, gay, gender queer... what have you...you know the image shown above and the thing that belongs to this imagae is not an authoritative voice on what is or is not a woman.
"Oh yeah, Theresa? You're gonna be nasty and ugly with your words? Talking about how someone can't relate or get any nookie? Have a slice right back. It's only fair, since men and women deserve equal treatment, right?"
Game is not for internet interaction. And this kind of idiotic statement only gets made on the internet. In person... she would look profoundly stupid saying something like that about VD.. while he was standing there with spacebunny on his arm. And the response from him would be simply tilt his head... smile... and say, "clearly".
But again... the confrontation would never have taken place. The troll-frog would be terrified to approach someone like VD in person.
Goodness, Vox. If the only two women left in the world were her and a crack whore with end-stage AIDS, and God told me I HAD to marry one of them to preserve the species, I'd be gambling on a cure for AIDS.
V-
this post is VERY misleading; that thing in the picture is not a woman.
S/he seems to be very angry.
S/he seems to be very angry.
Cmate, was Jabba the Hut angry? Was Jabba's sex readily observable?
Danny, is that an obtuse Star Wars reference? This post could have been easily named "Sir, that's not a moon."
Mierda Sagrada!! she looks as though someone set her face on fire and put it out with a shovel....
Sad. The variance between words and reality. Theresa - and women like her - also play the "sex card" because that's all they got. They "feel things" and have "opinions" but know nothing and can't reason themselves out of a paper bag.
In earlier times, they'd have just stay at home raised their kids, read ladies home journal, gossiped with the other wives, and no one would have cared. Today, they have access to computers, and work as journalists and "teachers".
God help us.
"S/he seems to be very angry."
Ugly, yes. HUNGRY, probably.
Angry? Who cares?
She wants her problems to become our problems.
No
'I could be content that we might procreate like trees, without conjunction, or that there were any way to perpetuate the world without this trivial and vulgar way of coition; It is the foolishest act a wise man commits in all his life, nor is there any thing that will more deject his coold imagination, when he shall consider what an odde and unworthy piece of folly hee hath committed; -Religio Medici Part 2 section 9
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