Wednesday, June 26, 2013

The next time you're tempted to white-knight

You would do well to keep this sort of thing in mind:
Philip, a polite and quietly spoken 26-year-old father-of-one, was plucked out of the blue by a total stranger who spotted his picture on the social networking site and decided to falsely accuse him of rape. In an act of inexplicable viciousness, 31-year-old fantasist Linsey Attridge chanced upon a photograph of Philip and his then 14-year-old brother James and used it to back up a story she’d concocted. She’d done it, apparently, in order to win some sympathy with her boyfriend, when she feared his affections were waning....

It was only two weeks ago that Linsey, a single mother, appeared at Aberdeen Sheriff Court, where she admitted a charge of wasting police time. And her punishment for a callous deceit that besmirched the names of two innocent young men? A risible 200 hours of community service and a social services supervision order.
Women not only lie about rape, but women USUALLY lie about rape.  The "rape culture" that feminists and their white knights decry exists; but only in the parts of the West where third worlders have been permitted to reside.  And the more sympathy that real rape victims are given, the more women who have not been raped crave to get in on that dramatic action.

The statistics are unambiguous.  Most rape accusations are false, by which I do not mean that they are he said-she said cases that may or may not be genuine but unprovable, but are either exposed as false by the evidence gathered or admitted to be false by the accuser.  So, the next time a woman tearfully recounts the terrible awful story of her rape for your wide-eyed and sympathetic benefit, keep in mind that she is probably making the whole thing up because she wants to be the focus of attention.

And if you want to have some fun with such a fantasist, just pretend to take her very seriously and insist on driving her to the police so that she can report the "crime".  The degree to which she demurs is the degree to which you can be confident she is concocting fiction.

26 comments:

finndistan said...

200 years in a whorehouse would be more apt...

VryeDenker said...

Pro tip: if she doesn't turn bulldyke or start cutting herself after the incident, she probably wasn't raped. In rare occasions, the victim may turn into a gutter slut, but again, if there isn't some seriously self-destructive behaviour, she's just being a drama whore.

newrebeluniv said...

That's just sad. If you can't trust a rape victim, who can you trust?

--Hale

e96dd1c6-d05b-11e2-ad29-000bcdcb2996 said...

This is one of the reasons I support a shall-issue policy for carry permits. How do you tell a real rape attempt from a fake accusation?

In a real attempt, the would-be rapist was shot. Problem solved.

Scott said...

"Most rape accusations are false" - what is the basis for this claim beyond your personal opinion.

Vox said...

"Most rape accusations are false" - what is the basis for this claim beyond your personal opinion.

Police statistics.

GF Dad said...

Having been on a grand jury, we heard about 3000 cases in our term. Of those there were only three rape cases brought before us. One was a child molester (we issued an indictment) and the other two involved girls claiming they were given ruffies and were raped in their sleep. I wasn't convinced and felt both were either consential, yet regretful sex or simply drunken, regretful sex. They may have been raped, but without tox screen results showing ruffies in their blood stream. it was she said / he said and we sent neither case to trial.

Stickwick Stapers said...

And her punishment for a callous deceit that besmirched the names of two innocent young men? A risible 200 hours of community service and a social services supervision order.

The punishment for any false accusation of crime should be on the order of the punishment the accused would've received if found guilty. And the same measure of shame.

Unknown said...

Amen, Stickwick Stapers, punish perjury as the crime that was lied about.

mindstar3000 said...

I would assume this guy could sue her for libel/slander. It's a damn shame what she did

Bike Bubba said...

Police statistics for false reports are estimated all over--2% to over 50%. I'm reminded, though, that a great way of stopping false reports is to punish the woman the same way the man would have been punished. Do like the Mike Nifong defendant/perp did and accuse six guys of forcible rape, and then they find a third of Durham's DNA in there but that of the accused? You're going to spend some time in the graybar hotel.

Deuteronomy 19:15-21

And the accuser would have been glad we didn't punish rape capitally after that one....

Astrosmith said...

Someone I know has this rape story she concocted involving a man in her neighborhood breaking into her house and raping her. There was no physical evidence of either the break-in or the rape ("He cleaned up", she says) and neither she nor her husband will go to the police about it. Now, her husband is sort of a puss, but even he would at least press charges if such a thing actually happened, even if he wouldn't go down there and beat the crap out of or shoot the guy.

The fact that neither of them went to the police makes me think that this was some sort of dream she must have had.

"Rape culture" is bullcrap.

fc6cedc2-d6a8-11e2-b860-000bcdcb471e said...

I would assume this guy could sue her for libel/slander. It's a damn shame what she did

The probably is that will cost you $30,000 or more in attorney fees and you won't see it back. You can have the satisfaction of emotionally ruining her for the rest of her life, and destroying her credit for a decade, but most of us don't have that kind of scratch lying around.

Maybe somebody should start some sort of a libel fund. Could probably raise enough money in $5 donations to take a few dozen of these women down. If it gets enough publicity that girls lives are being ruined by false accusation of rape it might curb the behavior somewhat.

NATHANIEL MANELLA said...

The sad thing is if a man with the resources did pursue legal action against a false accuser, he'd just be viewed as vindictive and be judged guilty in the court of public opinion. (Rabbits). Now would I sue her ass into oblivion? You bet your ass.

Joel said...

Astrosmith: "Someone I know has this rape story she concocted involving a man in her neighborhood breaking into her house and raping her."

Too bad you don't live in the same neighborhood as she does. If I were one of her neighbors and caught wind of this, I would insist that either she go to the police or I would. After all, I'd tell her, we can't allow a rapist to roam free in our own neighborhood. Think of the children.

If she still refuses, then it's almost a sure bet she's lying. Either way I'd be paying the cops a visit.

LGB said...

False accusations happen far more often than you'd think, I think a lot of them don't even get into the legal system.

This happened to somebody I knew in college, a girl he barely knew accused him of forcing himself upon her at a party and even though it was proved untrue what with witnesses and all, and her story shifting wildly from one unlikely scenario to the next, some of her friends went out of their way to spread the word that this guy was a rapist running loose and free, they had, for whatever reasons, invested so much in such a short time in this fellow being a sexual assaulter they weren't about to let little things like "evidence" get in the way.

MikeT said...

they had, for whatever reasons, invested so much in such a short time in this fellow being a sexual assaulter they weren't about to let little things like "evidence" get in the way.

This is why US defamation laws need to be changed to strict liability. Their motives, beliefs should be irrelevant. The fact that they are wrong should be enough to convict them of defamation in a civil or criminal context. We need to make it much more dangerous to one's liberty and property to go around saying stuff that simply isn't true about people.

3f3b26a4-df29-11e2-8d2f-000bcdcb2996 said...

OT but relevant!

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/12/false-reports-outpace-sex-assaults-in-the-military/?page=all

Its funny because the media is finally catching on to what people in the military have been saying for years!

swiftfoxmark2 said...

From the article:

Unknown to Philip, his brother, a student at a residential school for teenagers with behavioural problems, had been taken in handcuffs from his mother’s home half an hour earlier.

He recalls how frightened he was during the five hours in which he was questioned, fingerprinted and swabbed for DNA.

‘My life is clear, I’ve had no dealings with the police whatsoever,’ he says. ‘I was just panicking, panicking . . .

‘It was when they mentioned that it was such-and-such a day that I calmed down. I told them I was putting my daughter to sleep at that time. I had an alibi. Kelly’s family were there and everyone vouched for me, saying: “He was putting his daughter to bed.”

‘They finally released me at about half past two in the afternoon and said: “We will get back in touch with you.”


And this is why I despise the police. They did all this probably either without his consent or with coerced consent.

In that situation, you ask the officers what the allegations then you tell them you are invoking your fifth amendment rights and will be contacting an attorney. Refuse to comply with their DNA swaps and fingerprinting. Do not sign any paperwork they set in front of you and make it more trouble than its worth to hold you. You may end up in jail for a few days, but a few days is better than a lifetime of being on the sex offenders list and having an official criminal record.

In other words, the legal system will try and swallow you up, so try and make them choke on you.

empathological said...

And the more sympathy that real rape victims are given, the more women who have not been raped crave to get in on that dramatic action.


Exactly the same for abuse. Most/all discussion, "therapy", outreach, whatever is recruiting, and empathy chasing.

HanSolo said...

Interestingly I was just having this conversation and made this comment about feminist rape angst:

http://www.justfourguys.com/feminists-and-raunch-queens-are-the-dominant-alpha-mares/comment-page-1/#comment-471

The interesting thing about the rape scare is that rape stats have dropped 68% from 1995 to 2010 (completed rapes) and all categories of sexual abuse (attempted rape, completed rape and other abuse) have dropped by 58%. And this is in a time of heightened encouragement to report, so you’re less likely to have women hiding in the shadows today, afraid to report, than in the past.

It raises an interesting issue. Feminists are all about shaming men, calling them creeps, potential rapists and so on. But who are the men that listen to this? They tend to be the more cooperative beta types. Bill Clinton and other badboys sure as hell never got the memo.

Thus, at least at a subconscious level, it seems like the feminists are really trying to set up a society-wide shit test or filter, to weed out the pussies that will allow themselves to be dominated by the Fempire and allow the truly masculine badboys that don’t give a fuck about societal convention to be the only ones approaching women…along with the attractive men that women will flirt with or approach. It’s like the Tom Brady skit on SNL, where everything the average guy does is sexual harassment but not when Tom does it because, well, he’s attractive.

If we’re moving into more of a sexual free market where the provider/protector that will stick around isn’t needed as much and you just want the best genes then let’s think of how this applies to rape. Being raped and impregnated by a man with shitty genes would be one of the worst things to happen to a woman’s high-priced eggs. Evolutionarily speaking, rape by a great-genes man, in the safe/rich environment, would actually make the child’s genes better for most women.

Suddenly the matrix becomes understandable and all this rape angst becomes clearer. What’s really being spoken to is their loathing of average and below-average men. And the angst only gets absorbed by the beta males, really–look again at how old Bill was out there abusing women left and right, according to the women’s testimonies.

HanSolo said...

And the slap on the wrist punishments, if that, need to be reversed so that punishment for a demonstrably false rape accusation is AS SEVERE as the punishment for an actual rapist.

Ghost said...

My daughter had a friend (key word: had. She refused to remain friends with this evil twat because I raised her right) who had sex with a 23 year old (she was 15). She bragged about it for two weeks, and then someone told her dad. Suddenly, she had been raped.

I knew why my daughter didn't want to remain friends with her, but I wanted to her her reasoning why. She said, "she thought nothing, NOTHING, about destroying someone's life so she wouldn't lose her phone for 2 weeks. Fuck her. If she could do that to someone she loves, I'm not sticking around to find out what she'll blame on me."

Hmm said...

I've always read that 2%~ of sexual reports were false (which is more or less the average for other crimes as well).
May I be linked to some sources?

Ghost, how did it end?
I hope the man was found innocent. What can they do to a girl her age in your country?

davor said...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10140992/Soldier-tells-how-his-life-was-ruined-after-woman-he-tried-to-comfort-accused-him-of-rape.html

100s of such stories. Sentencing ranges from 8-12 months

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