Soumaya, née Aphrodite, is one of a wave of tens of thousands of Westerners who convert to Islam every year, more than 75 percent of whom, astonishingly, are women. Equally surprising is the fact that most of these women gravitate to conservative Islamic groups – the more misogynistic and oppressive ones – insisting all the while that they feel “liberated” and “free.”Look, if a woman is willing to completely transform her life, change her name, and start wearing bedsheets simply because the man treats her like a filthy infidel bitch while she scorns the nice helpful guy who is at her beck and call, this should tell you something about how men are advised to treat women they would like to find them attractive.
Reading through dozens of stories of such women, one can’t help but notice the similarities among them. All claim to have embraced Islam of their own free will; yet an overwhelming majority, like Soumaya (whose story was profiled in the Dutch newspaper Het Parool), converted only after dating (or wedding) a Muslim man, usually – interestingly enough – a Moroccan (even in countries like England, where Moroccans do not form the majority Muslim population).
Muslim men are attractive to Western women precisely because they treat them with scorn and contempt. They may not do so for the same reason Western rock stars do, but the effect is the same.
This is a basic Game concept, but for some reason, men find it hard to believe. Just remember: women like strong horses. They like stallions. They don't like pack donkeys.
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Have there been any studies comparing the divorce rates of patriarchal denominations with non-patriarchal ones?
And the White Knights wept.
I find it hard to comprehend remaining aloof and being dominant... It seems like staying aloof you wouldn't care what the woman does while being dominant could be pushy/beta/overbearing.
Dude,I am originally Ukrainian (though live in the western europe) and can tell you one thing.
When I was young I remember that I played in a football team for a local medical school in Ukraine.There are many students from arab countries (Moroccans,Syrians etc) studying medicine in Ukraine.I remember very well that day when we played a friendly against an "all arabs" team.The stadium was full of Ukrainians girls,cheering for their sand nigger boyfriends and coursing at us!Not even ONE girl supported us.Not even one.They own guys.Back than I was very right wing,I was SO deeply offended that even now I feel angry and disgusted about that day.
Another well known problem with Russians and Ukrainian,which makes Russian and Ukrainian guys upset,is the unexplained love of local women towards men from caucasus:the primitive "countries" of georgia,armenia,chechnya,dagestan and so on.
Russian women are also known to go for "sex trips"to Turkey-in fact they even have special site where they share opinions on particular turkish men in particular hotels or places.
Simply disgusting and revolting.
Simply disgusting and revolting.
Yes, but but like Everest is, it is what it is.
blah blah blah NAWALT blah blah blah *obligatory hamster ramble* blah blah blah *men are to blame* blah blah blah blah *I'm a special snowflake*
Chicks become hens, then turn to turkey's. There is a ugly duckling swan song in here somewhere.
Judiaism and Christianity were ok when they recognized the difference - the complementarity between men and women, with men dominant but women protected and respected to that extent. The idea is that with power comes responsibility for those in your power.
Islam at least gets the relationship right. Nature, experience, and reality don't grade on a curve.
Our feminized culture demands a king like 1 Samuel 8. I wondered if that happened just after women's suffrage.
I don't think one can even begin to expect a woman to cater to him until he is aloof, Marky Mark.
"You are certainly free not to be the woman who will cater to my whims, my dear. There are plenty of fish in my sea, after all." Aloof and effective.
And amusing, because the gears go wild.
Don't confuse aloof (above the petty concerns, disinterested in the nonsense of women) for depressed.
PS - Rule #1a, me droogs. Nyet Russian devotchkas.
Aloof isn't about being a dick. It's about not bending over for their ridiculous whims.
Chick dig jerks over nice guys...chicks dig Muslims over Christian betas...chicks dig prison inmates over responsible hard working men.
And yet some guys still deny the cruel facts.
Two thousand years of civilization building and it counts for nothing. The whores will jump on the first sand nigger's dick that acts like he owns the place, even though of course, he's only here because he's allowed to be. Truly, women are whores.
I find interesting the comments by anon 1:52 about the conduct of Muslim men in non-Muslim nations. He talks of Muslim men studying medicine in Ukraine, dating (and presumably having sex with) the local girls.
I attended college in the midwest in the late 1980s. I lived in one of the dorms for international students, some of whom were Muslim men. Without exception, all of the Muslim men were as sexually promiscuous as the women would allow; all were drinkers and tobacco smokers, and some used illegal drugs. They were as Americanized as possible.
SO I find interesting the notion that Islam insists on rigorous sexual morality and abstention from harmful substances. Yet we hear reports of Muslim men sleeping with Western women and indulging and abusing all manner of substances.
Interesting.
deti
Meanwhile, confirming what we've known, another country changes the laws...
Gamma Rabbi
and from that I extrapolated that women cannot testify against husbands in divorce. This took me by surprise. I can hardly imagine how much time and money this saves both the courts and the parties involved. Add to this the fact that civil marriage does not exist in Israel,
Emphasis added. So no "gay marriage", at least until the government controls that too so can define and allow it.
"Two thousand years of civilization building and it counts for nothing. The whores will jump on the first sand nigger's dick that acts like he owns the place, even though of course, he's only here because he's allowed to be. Truly, women are whores."
I understand the bitterness, I really do. This won't last, however. The pendulum is getting ready to swing mightily in the opposite direction. The last vestiges of feminism will vanish like smoke in the wind as Western civilization revolts against progressivism. Just wait.
"SO I find interesting the notion that Islam insists on rigorous sexual morality and abstention from harmful substances. Yet we hear reports of Muslim men sleeping with Western women and indulging and abusing all manner of substances. "
To Muslim men sleeping with White women, or even boys, is not considered a sin.
Anyway, ethnicity trumps religion.
SO I find interesting the notion that Islam insists on rigorous sexual morality and abstention from harmful substances. Yet we hear reports of Muslim men sleeping with Western women and indulging and abusing all manner of substances.
Hey, man, what happens in America stays in America. My husband asked one of these guys why they do all that stuff in spite of all the ranting against it, and the guy said "America is an addiction."
I have a young friend who's dating a Muslim guy. He's very relaxed, friendly, modern, etc., but I've warned her that these guys turn religiously conservative all of a sudden when they get married and start having kids, especially if the family moves back to his home country. She seems okay with that -- she's trying to learn his native language and I get the feeling she's contemplating conversion. She's a typical liberal-ish modern young woman with a lot of muddled thinking -- it'll be interesting to see, for example, if her support for gay marriage survives marriage and/or conversion. The white guy she dated before was boring, passive, and mushy; the flip in the other direction is rather predictable in terms of Game.
A very beautiful gal I went to high school with married a Saudi prince. When she comes back to visit, she wears her sheets with her many kids in tow. Her old liberal friends were all aghast yet in the same breath "can you even imagine being that rich???? O.M.G!"
@ UKrainian anonymous,
The stereotype here of Russian/Ukrainian men is of drunken, domineering, make-her-do-all-the-housework, wife-beating sexist pigs. According to this blog, the Ukrainian chicks should have been all over the Ukrainian men...
Damned Hajis. An easy way to diffuse this may be to ask how many goats they've fucked or tell them you killed one of their cousins in the war.
Or just call DHS on them.
Maybe another way to understand aloof/indifferent is to think of how a parent reacts to a child. You deal with the critical stuff, but you know what that is, that there's a lot they can't possibly know. You can't hold them accountable for what they don't know, so there's no sense in bending yourself into a pretzel trying to soothe their feelings or make them understand.
We women need to vent and test and know that something solid is there to catch us. Eye contact is helpful, though, cause it indicates you're "listening" to our nonsense, maybe even considering it, then deciding it's not worth "over" reacting to.
For years my husband's "indifference" for my "grave concerns" was a source of frustration and conflict - to me. However, he didn't bend, so I had to figure some things out on my own (like, he's not going to fold to my whiney whims). Now, I'm grateful to know my concerns didn't undo him: he's solid, has a bigger picture view. He's had heavier lifting to do and did it. I've come to understand it's about protection - and self-preservation - so he can do the job he's called to do as provider/protector.
Western women are starving for masculine dominance and they're taking what they can get.
This is what happens when a society emasculates its men. Its women look for love elsewhere.
@ SD
"Her old liberal friends were all aghast yet in the same breath "can you even imagine being that rich???? O.M.G!"
Hypergamy doesn't care about politics or religion.
Stickwick: She's a typical liberal-ish modern young woman with a lot of muddled thinking
SD: Her old liberal friends were all aghast yet in the same breath "can you even imagine being that rich????
Hey, this might actually be a good use for our (many) liberal, progressive young women. Send 'em off to marry Muslims; otherwise they're just hanging around here voting people like Obama into office.
Two thousand years of civilization building and it counts for nothing...
Ah, well... the civilization building counted for quite a lot, back when we were, y'know, actually building it. But we're post-civilized now, as you highlight with...
....even though of course, he's only here because he's allowed to be.
Real civilization keeps the barbarians out. They aren't allowed to be there. We're no longer actually civilized.
or, to put it more bluntly, we don't get any credit for all that civilization building with the wymyns because somebody else actually did the building. We didn't, as the saying goes, build that. Our grandparents, great-great etc. grandparents, they built it. We squandered it.
Why would a woman be attracted to someone who blew the fortune he inhereted from his dad?
Im a Turk and can vouch for this. In my younger days before marriage, I would re-create my cousins accent ( I was brought up in the US he was not) and the girls loved it. Dark Skin, aloof nature...worked like a charm.
Also Ukranian girls are so feminine but moody. Almost married one during my time getting my Master's. She had me smitten till I met her Polish GF and well, you get the picture.
we don't get any credit for all that civilization building
Because it has already been built, that is to say the benefit has already been provided.
i.e., Briffault's Law, corollary 1:
"Past benefit provided by the male does not provide for continued or future association."
And corollary 2:
"Any agreement where the male provides a current benefit in return for a promise of future association is null and void as soon as the male has provided the benefit (see corollary 1)."
That's so damn depressing.
I'm going to have to actively vet my daughter's suitors someday, and if I find ones I approve of, make sure they know game to keep them.
It's nothing new, pdwalker. 50 years ago my father-in-law did not have a father that prioritized teaching him masculine wisdom. His new bride did and her father mentored him. 18 years ago I did not have a father or mother who prioritized family values (much less biblical submission/respect). The man I married did. His parents mentored and greatly influenced me.
Mentor your son-in-laws. But before that, raise your daughters right.
Because it has already been built, that is to say the benefit has already been provided.
Not quite what I was getting at. We would've deserved credit for keeping it going.
If, y'know, we'd actually done that.
Not quite what I was getting at. We would've deserved credit for keeping it going.
It's not even about that. These women are abandoning their own race to join a mud race because he presents a picture of strength. What's really astonishing is the short-sightedness. You would expect more faith from a dog.
"This is a basic Game concept, but for some reason, men find it hard to believe." - Vox
Yep:
"What's really astonishing..." - Anon
Yep:
Yeah, guess what, from a male perspective of sticking to things on principle, it's astonishing to see a creature with none. Even less, seemingly, than some animals. Really, women should be ashamed of themselves, but their congenital ignorance on this front prevents it.
It's really not "some" reason, the reason is fairly obvious.
Women recognize strength without worrying too much about the nature of that strength. They only measure the total value of strength and power without worrying about the direction of that power.
Eva Braun
And the White Knights wept.
And some will be hanging themselves in disbelief...
I think you all are confusing status with dominance. The media tells women that dark skinned Foreign men are high status and above white men no mater how dominate the white men are. Women are heard creatures, they respond to media brain washing.
re: deti
„SO I find interesting the notion that Islam insists on rigorous sexual morality and abstention from harmful substances. Yet we hear reports of Muslim men sleeping with Western women and indulging and abusing all manner of substances.”
There’s no contradiction. As far as the treatment of women is concerned, the attitudes of men from traditionalist societies are the same. If a woman puts out, then she’s a slut and men are free to openly seek casual sex with her. If she’s part of the tribe, she’s no longer wife material and she dishonors her family. If she isn’t part of the tribe to begin with, men are free to do whatever they want with her. But if she’s part of the tribe and keeps her legs shut, she’s to be respected and protected. If any man tries to take advantage of her, it’s the duty of the tribe’s men to punish him.
Arabs aren’t the only ones who behave this way. Have you ever been to Southern Italy? The local men are always on the prowl for casual sex with foreign single women who visit the country, but the local women pretty much keep their legs shut and the men respect that.
"The stereotype here of Russian/Ukrainian men is of drunken, domineering, make-her-do-all-the-housework, wife-beating sexist pigs."
Nonsense. most Russian/Ukrainian men are miserable betas who drown their sorrow and hopelessness in vodka. Their society views them as utterly expendable.
@ UKrainian anonymous,
The stereotype here of Russian/Ukrainian men is of drunken, domineering, make-her-do-all-the-housework, wife-beating sexist pigs. According to this blog, the Ukrainian chicks should have been all over the Ukrainian men...
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Obviously,a stereotype.If you would be speaking russian and browse around russian manosphere you would see that the complaints are precisely similar to the ones here: hypergamous women,hooking up with alphas,milking the betas.
Russian (in conversations between themselves ofcourse!they would never admit this to a foreigner) men consider themselves to be over civilised beta loosers comparing to the primitive cultures of the east. They post similar stuff as AGP did today,giving examples of russian women "love"towards muslims and calling to arms and becoming more aggressive and domineering with women.Same shit everywhere with white christian/atheist nations,I suspect....
Good post. It reminds of one of the funniest comment threads in the history of the interwebz, where Alte is gently exlaining to clueless and shocked tradcon white knights that women only accept a religion if it provides them with an ample amount of young, hot men:
ozconservative.blogspot.hu/2010/10/lauren-booths-conversion-story.html
Höllenhund said...
"The stereotype here of Russian/Ukrainian men is of drunken, domineering, make-her-do-all-the-housework, wife-beating sexist pigs."
Nonsense. most Russian/Ukrainian men are miserable betas who drown their sorrow and hopelessness in vodka. Their society views them as utterly expendable.
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Yes.Although Ukrainian (who s been to Russia many times too-yes there are massive differences in cultures) myself I do admit that your words have a lot of truth.Russians society is a pure matriarchy,where women simply see men as providers and sometimes-a spermbanks.The level of divorce there is actually HIGHER than in the west.And yes men drink because of desperation.
Whenever I come to Ukraine and meet my childhood friends-I cringe from the level of their betaness and pure dominance of women in their relationships.
"or, to put it more bluntly, we don't get any credit for all that civilization building with the wymyns because somebody else actually did the building. We didn't, as the saying goes, build that. Our grandparents, great-great etc. grandparents, they built it. We squandered it."
Today's beta males didn't build it. But they are the only ones maintaining what's left of it. Everybody else is busy squandering it.
But you're missing the point. Women don't care about civilization - they can pretty much put up with any amount of misery and hardship. Yes, they will sit in front of their mud huts and complain about men all day, but they'd do exactly the same in any other environment anyway. They just can't be bothered.
My father provided me with masculine insight...but never told me to take that to women. Just the world.
Guess I should have figured out they are one in the same.
Really, women should be ashamed of themselves, but their congenital ignorance on this front prevents it.
Be ashamed of Adam for submitting to Eve.
"They like stallions. They don't like pack donkeys."
Most Excellect one-liner, dude!
My personal one is, 'Women don't fall in love with Houseboys' (though that's an African thing, it might need explaining).
I am disappointed to hear that Russian and Ukrainian men are beta. I guess I should stop imagining they are the last hope of the white race, uninfected with PC stupidity...
It is frustrating as someone who has read here for years to continue to read comments laced with bitterness. There is no learning going on with some, no growth, just ....circles.
I have large dogs. I don't bitch and complain when they act like dogs. I train them, hold them to their training and understand that they are DOGS. It is a constant thing. I don't bitch because it is constant.
I go into it knowing they have certain instincts that they must be held to a standard of overriding. It must be done for the benefit of both of us.
However, their instincts are designed to help them do their job. They must be acknowledged, trained, honed and used properly. The software they are running on are what makes them valuable, their obedience to my commands makes them priceless. Just like people.
Vox has written about reality. It is easy to see for anyone with a brain that women have a certain behavior pattern in their flesh. Their Spirit is in addition to this. Their flesh and spirit can be taken over with evil or with The Lord.
Either way, the flesh is programed to respond a certain way so that she can fulfill her given task. Someone filled with the Lord's spirit can withstand temptations of the flesh, but the programming is still there.
Same with the male.
Now I wanted a strong Husband who will protect my Children and I and provide for them. I do not want another child and to be Father and Mother. I can not do both jobs. This is the software I am running on.
I am not able to fend off other men myself, the largest predator, my Husband does this nicely. It is sexually attractive to me. Which is a benefit because it gives him something his software requires. We both win.
However, were he injured or ill, I would do it the best I can and the Lord would help me. We are one flesh. And the Spirit of the Lord would trump my flesh. As it does when many, many other women find the proof of his excellent providing and protection (which they can tell with one look at my children and I) sexually attractive as well.
It must be hard for him, but he resists. I consider this the Lord helping him trump his flesh as well.
That I want this does not make me some kind of moral degenerate. It is the software I run on. The same standard is not applied to men by the bitter, running in circles, complaining for YEARS commenters.
Mothers and Fathers have not provided the standards, controls and training that has provided the understanding of and control of the flesh for centuries. We see the reaping of that. And of course, the lost will be reveling in the flesh. They simply cannont help it.
Just like we see pounds full of unsocialized disobedient dogs who most likely were tossed out after dressing them like babies resulted in a bite.
And it was never the dogs fault.
Except that women are not a different species. Dogs are dogs, women are humans, but they want to be free to act on instinct, like animals. Sure, men need to do their part and being strong is part of that, both sides have their responsibilities. Being a whore and jumping race and religion because a sand nigger won't hesitate to beat you if you show some leg in public is acting like an animal. Try to have at least some principles.
"The last vestiges of feminism will vanish like smoke in the wind as Western civilization revolts against progressivism. Just wait."
No. Don't wait. Help move that pendulum faster.
And that extends to girls jumping on bad boy dick because it's oh so hot. If women had done that for the last two thousand years we'd still be in the dark ages. Instinct is not the same as permissible behaviour.
Really the sticking point is that western society has taken the position that women as adults have the capacity and capability to conduct themselves according to a higher principle than out and out animal instinct. Women seem to be neither aware of the obligation to do so, nor even capable of it in the rare instances that they are aware of it. What women are really showing is that based on behaviour they really should be removed from the species homo sapiens sapiens and lumped in with fish or something, just to avoid confusion.
Carlotta,
You and I are experiencing the same thing frustration. I've found going back and reading posts like A tale of two discourses to be helpful. As well as all posts tagged "Gamma."
The red pill warren is still...a warren. And what do we know of rabbits? They run in circles.
I get hung up with thoughts of "no, it can't be so, there's got to be a way for them to recognize this of themselves and pursue wisdom, logic, and understanding." But am slowly accepting that for some, it's just not possible.
"Really the sticking point is that western society has taken the position that women as adults have the capacity and capability to conduct themselves according to a higher principle than out and out animal instinct. Women seem to be neither aware of the obligation to do so, nor even capable of it in the rare instances that they are aware of it."
Again, the situation didn't happen in a vacuum. Men have been at the helm, instrumental to the making of Western society. As women and men, we each have an obligation to examine our own contribution and collusion in the current collapse. But men are the leaders, clearly. You can't encourage and contribute to slut-making, then wonder so many women are sluts. Once you see the gate has was left open, you have to be the one to make sure it's securely closed.
* gate has been left open . . .
I'm addressing men and women, but understand that men's ability to regulate their own behavior rationally is one reason their leadership/headship is essential. Women (of character) will respond in kind.
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"The last vestiges of feminism will vanish like smoke in the wind as Western civilization revolts against progressivism. Just wait."
I want to believe this, but I simply can't. The West will never revolt against progressivism. It just won't. A nation of gammas and feminists would never even think of it as the problem. This simply won't change until we are completely destroyed and have to rebuild, then and only then will people realize how inefficient policies like affirmative action and welfare are. Enjoy the Decline.
"only then will people realize how inefficient policies like affirmative action and welfare are."
They won't realize anything. They have been taught not to think. They have only been taught how to react emotionally. A population capable of evaluating the past correctly - and thus seeing the disastrous mistakes that have been made - is exactly what the elite does not want.
That I want this does not make me some kind of moral degenerate. It is the software I run on. The same standard is not applied to men by the bitter, running in circles, complaining for YEARS commenters.
Are you girls 'tarded? No one is bitter that you want a strong man. And lots of men need to toughen up, and be taught to as well. But you would be bitter too if your romantic propects passed you up for golddiggers and bimbos with tit and ass implants and gave them their life savings and a claim on their future earnings as well. You think they were idiots. And that's exactly what young women are doing with players, bad boys, sand niggers on welfare, and assorted other dirtbags. It's the impulsive, short-sighted stupidity that induces bitterness in the observer.
I understand what you're saying Anon. Imagine this, however: the women being passed up for golddiggers and bimbos with tit and ass implants are fat, keep their hair short, pursue degrees in women's studies, blather on and on about equality and women's rights. They complain often about how there are no men attracted to them. So, a wise blogger comes about and pours out millions of words of truth about how they could, without tit and ass implants, attract the men they seek. That they would need to change their thought processes, lose some weight, grow their hair out and develop a feminine nature. Instead of listening and implementing said advice, these women continue to read and comment on this blog whining and complaining about how the men only choose the women with tit and ass implants. How long would it take you to shake your head in utter befuddlement wondering how they are not getting it?
I understand what you're saying Anon. Imagine this, however: the women being passed up for golddiggers and bimbos with tit and ass implants are fat, keep their hair short, pursue degrees in women's studies, blather on and on about equality and women's rights. They complain often about how there are no men attracted to them. So, a wise blogger comes about and pours out millions of words of truth about how they could, without tit and ass implants, attract the men they seek.
By this point the men they seek are penniless losers, so better to just get the tit and ass implants anyway and join the douchepocalypse. PUA FTW.
Assuming we're still drawing a corollary between "penniless losers" and used up women, don't we have to consider the approximate 2 million women turning 18 (U.S. alone) each year. Is it logical to say they are ALL used up? That they will ALL only be attracted to players, bad boys, sand niggers on welfare, and assorted other dirtbags?
You may continue this "it's hopeless" discussion, and you'll have proven the point of the commenters you'd like to call retards. Or...or you could understand there are men who are actually winning and desire to do what they are doing.
Though you fantasize "PUA FTW" - the truth is becoming evident that Man cannot live as a lotus eater.
The men who are "winning" as you put it, are using PUA skillz. There is simply no other way to compete. Game has supplanted douchebaggery. In essence it is a more advanced douchebaggery in most applications, except that instead of muscles and mma t-shirts with loud designs you leverage social tactics to your advantage. And there is no going back, just as the average girl cannot compete against her peers without wearing make up and slutty skirts.
If "PUA skillz" = an analysis and emulation of socio/sexual behaviors of successful men and an observance and response to the innate nature of women then you are correct.
There is no going "back" because this is nothing new. That it may not have been taught or emulated for a generation or two, does not mean it hasn't been a constant Truth.
SD, excellent link. Thank you.
Anon, You can't seem to comprehend my example. You are complaining about the instincts shown by most women (wanting a strong horse at all costs). This blog is about asessing the truth and moving into taking charge of your reality by using that wisdom.
Plenty of women commenters here and elsewhere that don't throw ragers everytime he posts. Some of us have actually been woken up and changed our lives. Read SD's blog for instance.
To stay with my example, then don't get a dog. But shut up about it already. Especially not a big one. You will either be dropping it off to be killed shortly or it will turn on you because it is contesting you for the Alpha of the pack. All because you refused to simply take command in a way that dogs respect and understand.
You are just like the owners painting their nails and cooking for them and then wondering why fido suddenly went bad one day and telling everyone around you that that breed is dangerous.
No, you simply can not handle the breed because you don't want to.
" But you would be bitter too if your romantic propects passed you up for golddiggers and bimbos with tit and ass implants and gave them their life savings and a claim on their future earnings as well. You think they were idiots. And that's exactly what young women are doing with players, bad boys, sand niggers on welfare, and assorted other dirtbags. It's the impulsive, short-sighted stupidity that induces bitterness in the observer."
Bitterness is a choice, and a lazy one. Second, you are either too unattractive to have been making the plays for the males you want or have done something to make them decide against you. Stop blaming everyone else but yourself. Newsflash, men like women who look good.
Last, you are going to have to recalibrate yourself to get what you want. Vox and others give good advice in this area. Shoot him an email if you dare.
My neighborhood is about 80% Muslim, mostly southeast asian with some Balkans-area folk. It does my heart good each day to walk about and see women with the modest head covering going about their business. It's quite sexy actually.
I only know one white female that converted to Islam, via vaginal osmosis from her Egyptian husband. She was an ex-whore and had what some might regard as "daddy issues" and what others might regard as a seemly desire to please & obey men.
If "PUA skillz" = an analysis and emulation of socio/sexual behaviors of successful men and an observance and response to the innate nature of women then you are correct.
There is no going "back" because this is nothing new. That it may not have been taught or emulated for a generation or two, does not mean it hasn't been a constant Truth.
PUA skills are not just an analysis and emulation of successful men. I don't even know where that definition came from. Mystery wasn't just copying some super player and writing it down. A lot of that is original "reseach" in-field by PUAs who tried just about everything and hit on the stuff that worked. And now those tactics are being couched in evo-psych talk. Regardless of why it works, it does. Somewhere out there is a Platonic form of what is perfectly attractive to women. He is perfectly charming and has the highest value, and he always approaches at an angle. Somewhere out there is Platonic form of the perfectly attractive woman too. She probably looks Megan Fox does all dolled up but she's wearing even less and has bigger tits and a rounder ass.
What we are starting to have now is people trying to emulate those forms to the best of their ability using the tools at their disposal, which is game and make up. I'm not sure it's all good news. Women are walking around pretending to be 8s and 9s until you see them with their masks off the next morning and guys are pretending to be superstars until they get the notch. It's just another level of falsification in human relations, and there is no going back from that.
Girls love winners. Since white guys are increasingly coming out the closet and behaving as pseudo females then it should come as no surprise when girls leave them.
You cant be a drunkard or depressive or effeminate or anything else less than a man. Women are submissive and yearn for their opposite. You don't give it too them then they'll get it from others like the low iq groups such as Arabs and blacks.
Be a man and they'll be yours.
The bright side of white girls converting is their genes at least won't die out. The ruling ideology in Europe is anti-family. They think babies are horrible little things.
At least through Islam their genes will pass on, even if it is mixed with a lot of quality genes.
Don't know how I missed this one but being a horse person I'd certainly beg to differ. Most women, at least once past 30 and after children, want nice, quiet horses.
Certainly geldings not stallions and many times not even mares (who can be emotional - shocking!)
Even the younger women (and girls, I work a ton with the local Pony Club) though they may want "strong" horses - they want horses they can control and whose energy they can direct. No one is going to sink the kind of time and money into an animal necessary to "make a horse" if that horse is not interested in settling into performing in the woman's chosen discipline (dressage, jumping, western, roping, whatever.)
In that sense "strong" horse as you allude to it is not at all what most women shop for when they are shopping for horses. At least not in the $10K+ market with which I am most familiar (many middle aged women have good budget.)
Since you're not a horse person I'd encourage you to avoid making parallels using horses until you know a bit about the horse culture. (tweak!)
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