Thursday, May 30, 2013

Alpha != winner

It should always be kept in mind that success with women is not necessarily synonymous with success in all aspects of life:
A drunken driver was having sex when he lost control of his car Monday night and crashed the vehicle, ejecting his naked female companion onto a New Mexico roadway, police report.

According to cops, Luis Briones, 25, ran a red light and slammed his Ford Explorer into another car on an Albuquerque street. The impact of the collision forced Natasha Carroll, 21, from Briones’s SUV. With a bloodied Carroll lying in the road, Briones got back into his vehicle and attempted to flee the accident scene, witnesses told Albuquerque Police Department officers. After one witness confiscated his keys, Briones “then jumped into a bush, landing and attempting to hide in a cactus.”

Carroll suffered facial lacerations in the crash and was transported to an area hospital, where she was reported to be in stable condition. The plastered Briones, cops reported, reeked of booze and was extremely belligerent post-arrest. He allegedly spit on officers, threatened them, and “refused to keep his pants on.”
This is why it is necessary to differentiate between the sexually dominant and the socially dominant.  Getting a 21 year-old woman to have sex with you while you are driving is pretty dominant.  Trying to hide in a cactus and refusing to keep your pants on, not so much.

All that story needs to make it perfect, in my opinion, is to learn that it was a first date....

60 comments:

Josh said...

It's still a pretty awesome story.

Joe Blow said...

I'm sure she's a nice girl and the Herb that marries her will work real hard to keep her haaaaaapy.

Unfortunately, and unbeknownst to him, if he really wants to get her attention, he'll need to crash a helicopter while high on meth, shooting at police on the ground and participating in a group grope with her, in order to erase the awesome memory she has (the one that still makes her shiver) of when she nearly dying while screwing Luis in his Honda Civic...

Aleph One said...

I'm willing to bet that he is not sexually or socially dominant. The girl in this case is likely a prostitute. Combine a drunk loser who has to pay for sex with a crack addict who will do anything to get her next fix, and this is the result.

Daniel said...

"Natasha, next time I get fiendish plan, do me big favor? Sharrup my mouth!"

Nate said...

i don't know that we can call road head dominant. I mean it may have all been her idea.

Nate said...

we can call it awesome though. I once ran a red-light right in front of a cop while getting a hummer. good times.

VD said...

i don't know that we can call road head dominant.

Not road head....

Giraffe said...

i don't know that we can call road head dominant. I mean it may have all been her idea

An idea that would never occur to her while riding with a gamma.

Nate said...

Yeah I mean... its an explorer... so I suppose its possible that she was going full cowgirl... but I bet it was a bj.

Nate said...

gamma would stop her... because.. oral sex is degrading to women and he thinks to much of her to let her to that to herself.

Daniel said...

You missed the "ejected naked" part, Nate. I doubt they were talking about her face.

Josh said...

gamma would stop her... because.. oral sex is degrading to women and he thinks to much of her to let her to that to herself.

Hehehe

Nate said...

nah... you'd be surprised what can happen. An EMS buddy of mine responded to an accident and found a girls severed head in what was left of the glove box. she had been blowing the driver. the rest of her wasn't even in the car.

Nate said...

though I allow... the "naked" part does support the claim of intercourse.

Josh said...

See...the fact that this white girl was having sex with a Mexican proves that all girls are sluts and only want black or hispanic men and good white men are screwed...

Rollo Tomassi said...

I wonder how many marriage proposals he's received from her and various other women since his arrest and incarceration?

Giraffe said...

though I allow... the "naked" part does support the claim of intercourse.

I get the sense that you are doubting the claim.

I know that it is incredibly stupid, and your head in the glovebox story reinforces that very effectively. But is it really that unusual?

earl said...

Hiding in a cactus while naked makes me cringe. There's a lot of needles that could poke various body parts.

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Wendy said...

That brings new meaning to carousel. She is fortunate to be alive. Unfortunately for her, that's not the kind of story she'll enjoy telling. (What's that scar on your back from? Oh, it was the cat...yeah, that's it...) The dude on the other hand...

Though I don't get the whole 'refused to keep his pants on' after arrest thing. Did he want a cavity search or something?

marenostrum said...

The man looks pretty white to me. Do not say that white mean only germanic (that is, anglo-saxon; there were other germanic tribes besides the two mentioned, of course) white, you stubborn WASPs who are invaded by mestijos from Meexicoo. One could say you got what you deserve.

Daniel said...

I would not be surprised to find that she maintains a MySpace page and has a "dangergirl" nickname, such as Bombshell, "Nasty Natasha" or Tashotica.

mmaier2112 said...

marenostrum: That pic and the name "Luis Briones" scream WHITE to you?

Nate said...

"I get the sense that you are doubting the claim.

I know that it is incredibly stupid, and your head in the glovebox story reinforces that very effectively. But is it really that unusual?"

Road head isn't unusual. In fact I'd say it happens on every day on every interstate in the US. But actual intercourse, speaking from experience, is extremely difficult to do while driving.

Extremely. Difficult.

Nate said...

but no... I'm not doubting it. I mean... they wrecked right? so my claim that its difficult really doesn't contradict anything in the story. I just missed the "she was naked" part... wasn't really reading carefully I suppose.

tz said...

Add to meaning to the term moving violation

VD said...

though I allow... the "naked" part does support the claim of intercourse.

As does the 911 call in which a couple having sex was reported. To say nothing of the mutual nudity. As I said, not road head.

HowAboutSomethingOriginal said...

Is this supposed to be news or something? Considering how far women are willing to go in mistaking anti-social degeneracy for winning, the real challenge is finding an alpha who isn't a piece of shit. Which is ironic, considering how much internet alphas, or even real alphas, like to gloat about being alphas.

Roissy Maxim #43: In their sexual primes women’s attraction for assholes is at its strongest. You can catch a lot of hungry flies with honey, but shit attracts the most well-fed flies.

Tesla Was Robbed said...

Seriously, what do Alphas and Sigmas have against beds, or couches, or chairs, or futons, or cots used indoors? For Pete's sake, how is it dominant to fuck in a clearing, or in an elevator, or in a moving vehicle, or a public spot? Is it that you are imposing your will on the environment in some sense? If so, that's just idiotic. You're fucking already. You've competed and you've won. Repair to a sheltered, non-locomotive space.

Of course, doing it inside and without forward momentum might be tired and staid, but I was under the impression that it was the result that should count to the Alpha/Sigma, not the obstacles in one's path, or the setting.

Just my opinion, of course. Crazy story, though. Thanks for sharing, VD. Cheers.

Nate said...

I once fucked a girl under a stadium blanket during a college football game in the stands. She just took her shorts off and climbed on my lap.

I'm not totally sure the guy next to me knew it was going on.

Its not always up to us man.

Shit happens.

Joe Blow said...

Why mess with beds or moving Ford Explorers when there's a perfectly good kitchen counter in most houses?

Joe Blow said...

Y'know, because being close to the beer supply when finished is *winning*.

Tesla Was Robbed said...

Thanks for the perspective, Nate. Appreciate it. However, let me ask you this. Now, before I pose my query, let me say that I realize that what I'm suggesting requires some incredible self-control on the part of the man in the situation you described. However, as an Alpha/Sigma with options, as you definitely sound like, could you not have simply pointed out that those cheers hitting her ear drums from all around are not for her bald eagle?

Would not that have demonstrated your selectivity, higher value, and self-disqualification to her and would have potentially made her even that much more eager to please you going forward? Heck, it could even have turned what, in her mind, was only a stadium quickie with a quality woman to a fuck-buddy situation over a lengthier slice. Rejecting pussy that's literally in your lap? Talk about hamster on overdrive.

Purely theoretical question on my part (I even needed to Google stadium blanket as I usually avoid events like the plague because I hate the crowds...Ha! Did somebody say Gamma? Guilty as charged) as this would not happen to me in an epoch. Getting the perspective of someone with options would be really edifying for me, though.

Regards.

Daniel said...

Tesla, no. You need to cash the paycheck in order to buy cool stuff. No self-respecting alpha is going to ruin his good story just to make an interested girl more interested in him. It isn't about revving her up to her maximum levels. It is about revving her up to your best outcome.

If Nate doesn't do it, then sure, he's got the filly pining a little harder for something she was already wanting to do but so what? He's out of a sex in the stadium status report! That's a very bad trade for a respectable cocksman.

tldr; Alpha don't shiv. It's not about her. Dig?

Nate said...

"Thanks for the perspective, Nate. Appreciate it. However, let me ask you this. Now, before I pose my query, let me say that I realize that what I'm suggesting requires some incredible self-control on the part of the man in the situation you described. However, as an Alpha/Sigma with options, as you definitely sound like, could you not have simply pointed out that those cheers hitting her ear drums from all around are not for her bald eagle?

Would not that have demonstrated your selectivity, higher value, and self-disqualification to her and would have potentially made her even that much more eager to please you going forward? Heck, it could even have turned what, in her mind, was only a stadium quickie with a quality woman to a fuck-buddy situation over a lengthier slice. Rejecting pussy that's literally in your lap? Talk about hamster on overdrive."

No no... its a fair question. I mean it wasn't even like there wasn't plenty of time for it later. We probably did it again later in private too.. why right then and there?

looking back... why?

Because it seemed like the thing to do at the time? I mean honestly I really didn't think about it. Lots of 24 year old kids don't think about stuff when they do it. If I did think about it... it was probably something like.. "well... this will make a good story someday..."

Some chicks are really into public sex man. The idea of getting caught is really hot to them... until they get caught... then it sucks... but until they get caught it is a huge turn on.

Like I said... its not dominance. Its not an alpha saying... "suck my cock in front of everyone bitch." Its a chick just up and pulling out your cock in a resturaunt and blowing you under the table while you do everything in your power to not make it obvious.

Stadium Girl pulled that one too. It can be pretty irritating to be honest with you.

Nate said...

It should also be pointed out that we don't make decisions based on game principles. Game principles exist to help others figure out how to be successful like alphas. Alphas don't sit around thinking.. "wait... is this the alpha thing to do?" I had never even heard of game until Vox started posting about it.

RobertEx said...

"It can be pretty irritating to be honest with you."

Alpha Male Problems?

VD said...

Would not that have demonstrated your selectivity, higher value, and self-disqualification to her and would have potentially made her even that much more eager to please you going forward?

No. It's a form of shit test. Are you bold enough to go for it when it is risky or not?

Nate said...

'No. It's a form of shit test. Are you bold enough to go for it when it is risky or not?"

Shit test. Now that's an interesting perspective. Never thought of it like that.

Bob Wallace said...

I live in the city mentioned. Here the man's name means "underemployed or unemployed, alcoholic, drug user, unattractive, gets beaten by the police and actually deserves it."

The woman may have been a hooker. They actually walk the streets here.

Nate said...

Highly unlikely that chick was a hooker. Hookers don't do that shit. That's crazy girlfriend shit.

JCclimber said...

Some of the women I've been with couldn't really get the BIG orgasm, the mind-blowing version, unless the sex was public.

Never thought it was a shit-test until now, but some of them definitely were shit tests.

Nate said...

i'm not sure about the shit-test thing. I mean...is passing being bold-enough to do it? or is passing be bold enough to put her in her place and telling her to settle the fuck down?

I don't know if its a shit test or if its just... chicks are pervy.

Toby Temple said...

Do a girl while driving. I'm adding that to my do-to-list.

Nate said...

"Do a girl while driving. I'm adding that to my do-to-list."

Don't. Its really a waste of time. It sounds great... but you really can't get much done. if she is facing you there is no place for her right leg to go... if she is not facing you... then she has to steer... and trust me... you don't want that.

It sounds awesome... but in practice it isn't.

Nate said...

now that said... getting a reach around handjob from your chick while you're hitting 145 on the interstate... that's worth it. Just don't let her finish it. Think pissing in the wind... but way worse.

Toby Temple said...

I think the trick is in slowing the car down to 10mph or less.

Carlotta said...

For goodness sake, just park.

Toby Temple said...

Where's the fun in that?

Natalie said...

@Tesla was robbed

You should read some threads on backpacking forums. You get 20-30 miles away from a populated area (ie "front country") and people start hiking naked and all that stuff. Personally, I wear long sleeves and a hat precisely so I don't sunburn my respectable parts - forget the white and wobbly bits. Also, talk about strange tan lines.....

Bike Bubba said...

Good thing nobody was killed here. There was a case like this in southern MN where the girl and two other women, but sadly not the perv driving, got killed. At least five orphans and one widower out of the deal--the girl was married and had one kid, another woman had four.

And I'm guessing Nate's friend found other body parts somewhere in that car not belonging to the girl, if you catch my drift.

Like Carlotta said, just park. If you don't value your own life, please value someone else's.

(Natalie; I've seen the same within city limits in Boulder, but then again, that's Boulder)

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Nate said...

Wait... the guy getting the bj is a perv but the chick giving the bj isn't?

Carlotta said...

@Toby it may not be as fun as getting your unmentionables stabbed by a cactus after nearly killing yourself in a car accident....but I will take it :)

empathological said...

Police reported that the "cactus" had been Brazilian waxed

Toby Temple said...

No seeing any cactus here where I live so far. How's the desert sands there in you place, Carlotta?

the league of baldheaded men said...

I was watching the new Ryan Gosling movie, "The Place Beyond The Pines". Gosling plays an almost cartoonishly textbook "alpha male bad boy", stunt-bike rider in a circus.

After discovering that a one night stand has resulted in a son, he, on a whim, essentially kicks in the door of the mother, who is in a stable relationship with a nice, supportive male,and unilaterally re-inserts himself into her life, over her protests. (which are of course made while looking at him with wet, fuck-me eyes).

At one point, she says to him "but how are you going to support us??"

He just says "...Alpha."

It was a perfect moment, although he didn't actually say "alpha", he was saying "I'll find...I'll find a way."

Carlotta said...

@Toby
Himself, my Darling man, would say I shouldnt answer that :)

Toby Temple said...

I really don't understand why sex while driving should be discourage.

Compare it to this

Just choose an nice and almost-empty road, travel at 10kph or less, no cactus, just grass. That should make it safer without spending too much on safety.

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