Monday, April 22, 2013

Alpha Male: the magic preference

A commenter on the timeless female hair post goes in for yet another futile attempt to shame men into claiming they find short hair attractive:
I am a female and I have cut my hair short several times. My experience has been that the quality and 'interestingness' of the men I attract goes up significantly when my hair is shorter. Men who are easily attracted to short haired women tend to be less conventional, smarter, better read, more cosmopolitan and self-defined, bolder and more fun, and not to mention better in bed! I have talked about this with numerous other women and many have said the same thing about their short-hair experiences.

My hair is longer now. This has advantages in that I think more men are attracted to me overall. However there are also more bland, tedious and annoying men in this mix. Longer is fine for now, but I often think about cutting my hair short and suspect at some point I will. It is a fun change of pace -- and, as I am sure any human being who has an ounce of awareness or empathy for how stifling conventional feminine beauty expectations can be for women -- liberating! All women should try it at least once -- regardless of what this cranky, silly, and might i add unabashedly self-centered, author-boy thinks.
Wow, that's amazing!  Merely possessing the ability to be easily attracted to women with short hair will magically make one smarter, better read, and not to mention, better in bed!  I'm surprised she didn't go for the whole enchilada and inform us that being easily attracted to women with short hair who are more than 30 pounds overweight will add $100,000 to a man's annual income and three inches to his sexual organ.

(Seriously, men.  This is how stupid women believe you are.  They genuinely think you will jump through any hoop just to win their approval.  Why do they think this? Because being surrounded by deltas and gammas constantly kowtowing to their every momentary whim has taught them that you will.)

Read between the lines. All women should try it at least once... because that will make this long-haired woman more attractive by comparison. And more importantly, note that women will readily say anything, no matter how ridiculous, in their attempts to get you to submit to their frame. The most effective way to deal with this is ask for explanations about their reasoning, which will of course rapidly reveal that it is sheer rhetorical nonsense.

How does reading more make a man attracted to short hair?  Precisely how does a preference for short hair make a man better in bed?  Exactly what is more fun about a man who prefers short hair?

75 comments:

Roundtine said...

Women with short hair attract men with unresolved attraction to teenage boys.

Markku said...

It "attracts" gammas in that it lowers her SMV enough for them to think that they might have a chance with her. And on paper, gammas are of course interesting, the way our culture reckons interesting.

She, of course, prefers alphas but that's just because she is a special snowflake and this is just a particular quirk of hers. Totally not worth mentioning. Any other woman would like the effects of cutting her hair.

GF Dad said...

Short hair is a filter. A typical man sees short hair on an average woman and says pass/next. With fewer hunters in the woods, the gammas can bag their short haired prey. Based on my friends who are lower beta or gamma, they can be interesting and charming. Many are well read and I am guessing that what she calls cosmopolitan, I would call "metro". So I can see her point in that regard. BUT, what short hair says about her hamster and its inner workings is what would scare me off. The very things she says she likes in the gammas will eventually drive her to mount the next horse on whatever carousel she rides.
Few women are attractive enough to pull off having their hair up or pulled back, let alone short hair. My advice to my daughters and their friends is don't cut it. Some listen, some don't.
Can someone answer this for me: It seems to me that at most of the weddings I've attended, the bride wears her hair up. Why? Do they really think that looks better?

Markku said...

Can someone answer this for me: It seems to me that at most of the weddings I've attended, the bride wears her hair up. Why? Do they really think that looks better?

My first impulse would be to say that it's because such hairdos usually require more work*, and more work is more prettier because she obviously wouldn't be so stupid as to pay (or use her husband's money) for something that doesn't make her prettier, now would she?

*I don't mean that the simple act of wearing hair up requires more work, but that the most complex ones usually happen to be those. When you tie your hair into a Gordian knot, it can't help but stay up.

Markku said...

I'm going to call this the labor theory of beauty.

NateM said...

"My girlfriend got a haircut recently... she got 3 inches cut off and came home and cried for an hour. I said, why are You so upset, I'm the one that has to find a new girlfriend."- Anthony jeselnik

VD said...

Can someone answer this for me: It seems to me that at most of the weddings I've attended, the bride wears her hair up. Why? Do they really think that looks better?

So they can let it down on the wedding night. Do you seriously not grasp that? You might as reasonably ask why they wear veils; after all, most women look prettier when their faces aren't covered from view.

stg58/Animal Mother said...

I had never heard of Jeselnik until I watched his show. Funnier than Tosh and less faggoty.

GF Dad said...

" So they can let it down on the wedding night. Do you seriously not grasp that?"

No doubt that might have been the intention years ago, but I can't recall a reception where the bride and groom didn't leave wearing something beside the clothes they wore for the ceremony and the hair is down. Maybe things in Italy and Minnesota are different than in the deep south?

Apollo said...

@NateM - LOL!

@Vox - This short hair post of yours appears to be the gift that just keeps on giving. This particular post is just painfully transparent in its manipulation, and the whining about "conventional feminine beauty expectations" is great fun. It makes the minimal amount of work they have to put in to get pretty so as to have legions of guys kissing their ass sound like a real ordeal. The poor dears. If having short hair and subverting traditional beauty expectations is so liberating though, perhaps the poster should take it to the next level and also try putting on some weight, doing without the make up and wearing some drab and figure concealing clothes. Liberation plus! Take that patriarchy. Imagine the all around awesomeness of the guys she will attract after that.

realmatt said...

By 'better in bed' she means 'the hipster manjinas go down on.me for an hour'.

Stickwick said...

Can someone answer this for me: It seems to me that at most of the weddings I've attended, the bride wears her hair up. Why?

Same reason a lot of girls wear their hair up for prom: it's formal. Wearing an expensive formal dress and then having your hair down seems like an incomplete look. Wearing it up matches the formality of the dress and especially the occasion. (Hence the saying, "letting your hair down" as a metaphor for being more relaxed, uninhibited.)

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BTW, folks here will find this edifying. Goodreads has an entry for a ca. 1950s book on cultivating feminine charm. Note how the first reviewer, 'Sheri,' characterizes the book:

The premise is both horrifying and unintentionally funny to this contemporary reader. "More than ever before, today's woman should make the most of her age-old duty to be attractive, interesting, and of value to others."

Horrifying! Better to be unattractive, boring, and of value to no one. Nothing sums up modern women better.

earl said...

Don't like short hair...because I am not attracted to girls who look like hobbits.

I would put equal to obesity as the easiest way for a woman to become unattractive.

Vidad said...

"How does reading more make a man attracted to short hair? Precisely how does a preference for short hair make a man better in bed? Exactly what is more fun about a man who prefers short hair?"

Maybe... a man might like to read Ogden Nash out loud in bed - but a gal's long hair gets in the way of the fun, fun poems?

BTW, even They Might Be Giants agree on hair:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcTrHFYh6kM

Vidad said...

earl: "I would put equal to obesity as the easiest way for a woman to become unattractive."

Harsh. I can handle short hair (though it's not my preference)... but not obesity.

I pity my lesser-ranked friends and family married to gals that blimped out after marriage.

Little wide-eyed squirrels with one-way tickets to lardville... on a train they thought was filled with girl candy...

August said...

Some subsection of young women who cut their hair short seem to have a higher sex drive, probably higher testosterone. Obviously, some of these identify as lesbian.
They tend to be somewhat forward, so I suspect she's initiating. She's assigning these men a higher quality than the men she meets when she has longer hair. This makes sense, since, when she has longer hair she is more likely to get hit on by men she wouldn't have talked to on her own.

Anonymous said...

Another problem with her little solipsistic sample is it doesn't account for other factors.

She may get attention from more "intelligent" men bc they are more likely to approach women when there are fewer alphas to compete with.

Insofar as the sex being better, that just may be her own reaction to the men based on her sexual nature. A man who holds her in less regard is more likely to bang her without regard for how it makes her feel is ironically more likely to push her buttons.

-Trust

Joe Blow said...

A few women look good with short hair. They tend to have really nice cheekbones & big eyes, and the right haircut to show it off. Like "cat in the Shrek films" big eyes, and they'd probably look as good, or better, with long hair anyhyow. Short hair won't make an average girl look hotter, and may in fact make her look a lot worse, and the wrong short haircut can make a really hot girl look sort of ugly. As a rule, long hair looks better, but it depends on the girl. I'm friends with a short haired girl who is a pro triathlete, a very graceful and athletic HB9+. She looks good no matter what, and while she dresses up really well, the hottest I've seen her look is getting out of a scummy lake after the swim. Different kind of hot though, and most women don't have her physical gifts and would be foolish to try to emulate her.

The Scolds' Bridle said...

They are also probably being told that by attractive men who are just going for the bang.

This type of woman is probably a total loss when it comes to relationship potential anyway, so I'm not sure it matters, other than as an instructive point.

SarahsDaughter said...

how stifling conventional feminine beauty expectations can be for women

This is just bizarre. Stifling?

When our girls have friends spend the night (their ages are 11-13) they could choose to do so many things. Our house is like a youth center - pool, air hockey, Foosball, darts, karaoke, tons of board games, trampoline etc. What do they do? They spend hours giving each other manicures and styling each others hair.

Anonymous said...

@ SarahsDaughter said...

When our girls have friends spend the night (their ages are 11-13) they could choose to do so many things. Our house is like a youth center -pool, air hockey, Foosball, darts, karaoke, tons of board games, trampoline etc. What do they do? They spend hours giving each other manicures and styling each others hair.
________________

Totally. I have twin daughters who will be 4 soon, and they play dress up all the time. My nephews on the other hand prefer sports. Can't "stifle" natural instincts.

-Trust

Markku said...

Like "cat in the Shrek films" big eyes

But usually they are like "cat in the Shrek films" in that he is a dude.

Some dude said...

Alternative explanation: because fewer men werer hitting on her, she found the ones that did more interesting by virtue of their scarcity

Some dude said...

Alternative explanation: because fewer men werer hitting on her, she found the ones that did more interesting by virtue of their scarcity

ECM said...

Let me clear up what is happening here (if it is happening): all the geeks, dorks, and losers* that are terrified of approaching more attractive women are less hesitant to approach Ms.Butch because she is suddenly in their league.

Glad I could solve that mystery for her...

*Personally, I identity with the geek crowd, but I manage to actually, ya know, workout, and go outside once in a while.

Cail Corishev said...

Can someone answer this for me: It seems to me that at most of the weddings I've attended, the bride wears her hair up.

A pet peeve of mine is the way a woman will get some drastically different hairstyle for the wedding, so she doesn't even look like herself. A woman with gorgeous straight hair will get it turned into a huge mess of curls, for instance. Then she'll put on a dress like nothing she's ever worn (these days, typically something strapless that feels like it's about to fall off; why are bare shoulders assumed to be the pinnacle of elegance?) and get a completely different makeup job than usual. She doesn't look or feel like herself, so any chance of looking composed and elegant is just shot.

Ladies, if you're going to do something "different" for your wedding, at least do a few trial runs beforehand so you don't look like a six-year-old girl playing dress-up.

Mina said...

yawn! this again?? LOL

well, I will say I was turning heads at the (packed) outdoor range this weekend with my bra-length, wavy, wind-blown, freely-flowing auburn hair, my new Springfield Armory 9mm handgun and Colt AR-15 .

... though honestly I think they were looking at my guns...

Hey! It was a nice day. I had short sleeves on.

Anonymous said...

@Mina

Photographic evidence please.

dalrock said...

Photographic evidence please.

My thoughts exactly. Anyone can claim their AR-15 is something to behold, but I'm not buying it without a photo.

Cail Corishev said...

It just occurred to me that the male equivalent to the short-haired hottie could be the fat ladies' man. There are certainly men who manage to attract women despite being grossly overweight, by being very wealthy, amping up the alpha to dangerous levels, being famous, etc. But no man would say, "Hey, I know this 350-pound bartender who's dating three models, therefore many women do like fat guys, so there!"

Yes, a man can make up for being fat, but that doesn't mean fat is equal to or better than not-fat. Likewise, a woman can make up for short hair, but long is better than short. If a man could be not-fat as easily as a woman can have long hair, there would be no fat men.

Jack Amok said...

...why are bare shoulders assumed to be the pinnacle of elegance?

Because for a woman with a good figure, good muscle tone, and the right body fat percentage, it is the pinnacle of elegance. The long, elegant curve of the neck transitioning into the shoulders, that sort of thing.

Doesn't work if she's not in shape though. If she's either fat or scrawny, it doesn't look the same. I think hair up is also supposed to highlight this.

rycamor said...

There is a world of difference between short hair and long hair pulled up in some way. I'm not sure why this is but I think Vox's explanation of the potential for it being let down is part of it. Also, hair pulled up still has a feminine shape, quite different from a mannish butch haircut.

And, as Jack says, highlighting the line of neck and bare shoulders, with a few wisps of curls falling down... mmm... just makes you want to bring down the rest of those curls.

Stingray said...

I always thought a woman wearing her hair up for a formal occasion had a lot to do with with many men enjoying the lines of a woman's neck.

Anonymous said...

"Can someone answer this for me: It seems to me that at most of the weddings I've attended, the bride wears her hair up. Why? Do they really think that looks better?"

She is secretly hoping for Marriage 3.0, which will include a dog collar and a leash.

Sigyn said...

Well, I just did a post at His Domain that was a bit more charitable toward pretty women's solipsism (clicky my name), so it's funny how this works.

Anyways, note on the "intelligence" thing: It's a truth that we assume that anyone who agrees with us is more intelligent than people who don't. She's attracting more like-minded men with the shorter hair because she's signaling she's not a traditional thinker.

Remember that leftists think that people to their right are "bland, tedious, and annoying", not to mention less intelligent. There's no mystery here; it's straight-up selection and personal bias.

Sigyn said...

Sorry for the scramble in my last; I'm on my way out the door. If it needs clarification, I'll be back later.

Cail Corishev said...

There's no mystery here; it's straight-up selection and personal bias.

Plus a fair amount of projection, I'd guess. She feels more intelligent and interesting with short hair, so she projects that onto the men who happen to approach her at that time.

earl said...

"Harsh. I can handle short hair (though it's not my preference)... but not obesity."

While short hair doesn't have the health effects of obesity...they both have the same boner effect for me.

ace said...

The manosphere sticking on this point is really draining their collective credibility. Like if you suddenly all decided that the proper cup size was a D and anyone who believed otherwise was a fag.

No, actually, it's just a personal preference you've all elevated to godhood on the thinnest of pretexts. Short hair is associated with feminists and you hate them. I get that. But that's not the hair's fault. The hair is fine.

Josh said...

But that's not the hair's fault. The hair is fine.

I think you meant to say, the train is fine.

rycamor said...

ace said...

The manosphere sticking on this point is really draining their collective credibility. Like if you suddenly all decided that the proper cup size was a D and anyone who believed otherwise was a fag.

No, actually, it's just a personal preference you've all elevated to godhood on the thinnest of pretexts. Short hair is associated with feminists and you hate them. I get that. But that's not the hair's fault. The hair is fine.


It's amazing how many people cannot seem to get past the difference between prescriptive and descriptive truth.

Vox ain't talking about what *should* be. Whine all you want. It's just a fact that this is most men's preference. Not all, of course. Whether it should be... well let's talk when women are willing to view shy, unemployed, unmotivated, boring men as attractive. I mean, why should men have to improve themselves "just" for women?

Anonymous said...

Ditto rycamor.

Women *should* find nice dependable beta men more attractive then prisoners, alpha bastards, cads, and drugged out rockers with dirty hair. But men don't get to decide what women are attracted to, just like women don't get to decide what hair length we find most attractive.

For a group of people who.think they are being controlled if i don't want taxed to pay for Sandra Fluke's birth control before i buy my kids food, they sure.want to control my thoughts

-Trust

Will Best said...

Then she'll put on a dress like nothing she's ever worn (these days, typically something strapless that feels like it's about to fall off; why are bare shoulders assumed to be the pinnacle of elegance?) and get a completely different makeup job than usual. She doesn't look or feel like herself, so any chance of looking composed and elegant is just shot.

My wife's make-up for the wedding was geared toward making the pictures better, though I guess these days photo editing software will handle that just fine.

Off the shoulders isn't just elegant it looks sexy as hell if the woman in question doesn't have under the arm fat or is boney.

First time Brides seem to fall into two categories stressed or intoxicated so it is generally impossible for them to look elegant/composed in anything that isn't a still shot.

ace said...

It's amazing how many people cannot seem to get past the difference between prescriptive and descriptive truth.

Sure, I'm with you on that. I'd even say that 95% of beauty is objective. But that last 5%? Plenty of women can pull off a pixie cut and I'd hit it all night. The fact that it doesn't rustle your own personal dick from its slumber is proof of nothing, certainly not of any higher status as a man.

Is the girl in the original post on target? Doubtful, but it doesn't matter.

My point is this: you're overplaying a good hand with this. This anti-short hair mission is just about the most quixotic and retarded thing about the manosphere, and we'd all be better off letting it go.

Anonymous said...

I don't think the post is anti-short hair. It is about the hamster.

Mina said...

"I don't think the post is anti-short hair. It is about the hamster." LOL joke's on you.

They all are.

Cail Corishev said...

Off the shoulders isn't just elegant it looks sexy as hell if the woman in question doesn't have under the arm fat or is boney.

Problem is, many do, yet they get stuffed like a sausage into a dress that accentuates every ounce of that arm fat for everyone to see. I know some people in the wedding business, and apparently it's very difficult to find a wedding dress that's not strapless. I know traditionalists who gave up trying to find one and bought a shawl or jacket to wear over the dress to cover their shoulders and achieve the level of modesty they wanted.

Huggums said...

@ace

You're missing the point. I saw a black woman with her hair cut very shirt in a cut that you'd normally see on black men, and I'd personally smang it all night long. The point is that if you want to be more attractive to most men, you shouldn't cut your hair short. This isn't the type of site where we try to dictate what others do. Only tell others how to reach their goals through a most judicious application of reality-based reasoning.

akatsukami said...

"Can someone answer this for me: It seems to me that at most of the weddings I've attended, the bride wears her hair up. Why? Do they really think that looks better? "

It was originally a signal that she's no longer on the market; she let her hair down at night, in the bedroom, for her husband, not for you.

Brian The Brain said...

..So She Attracts Metro-Sexuals

and 'interestingness' of the men I attract goes up significantly when my hair is shorter. Men who are easily attracted to short haired women tend to be less conventional, smarter, better read, more cosmopolitan and self-defined, bolder and more fun, and not to mention better in bed!

I am sorry but: BULLSHIT! You attract sissy-boy, San Francisco dwelling, Prius-driving metro sexuals! How many times do we have to tell women: short hair makes you look like a petite, gay male! ...Possibly a Bull-Dyke if you are on the heavier side.

Just admit it, ladies. You wear your hair short out of shear laziness - nothing else. This is the same reason you ass expands to twice it's pre-nuptual size - LAZINESS! This is why your husbands will not sleep with you and why your husbands begin viewing porn - YOUR LAZINESS! Think of articles like this as a test of Darwinism. The dumb women will read this, take it to heart, and die childless spinsters. The smart ones will read it, realize that it is bullshit, and ignore it. Ladies, which one appeals to you more? The spinster or the smart one? I guess time and pixie-cuts will show.

GF Dad said...

I'm still not buying traditionalism/wedding night as the reason for the wedding/hair up thing. The modern American wedding ceremony is all about the feeding the hamster as the bride gets to play "queen for a day" and everyone else is relegated (including the groom) to props in her production all for the sake of impressing her peers with her awesomeness. At the same time, her friends and their hamsters can't stand that they're not the center of attention, so they play this passive aggressive game and subtly sabotage with suggestions like, "oh your hair would look so beautiful if you put it up, like Yeoman Rand." or some such crap. They sabotage each other all of the time by telling each other crap like, "A pixie cut would look so cute on you." and they would do that to each other for weddings too.

For the record, GF Mom and I eloped twenty years ago, partially to avoid that kind of crap from her mother and friends.

Rex Little said...

How does reading more make a man attracted to short hair? Precisely how does a preference for short hair make a man better in bed?

She's not saying either one does. She's saying she's observed a correlation, without specifying which way the arrow of causation runs. Whether the correlation is real or just the hamster talking, I have no idea.

SarahsDaughter said...

At the same time, her friends and their hamsters can't stand that they're not the center of attention, so they play this passive aggressive game and subtly sabotage

Oh, GF Dad, your whole comment is just so true. I had my hair up (almost 18 years ago) but really couldn't even have answered you if you asked why. It was just something you did while wearing the ridiculously expensive princess gown...right? My husband's gay uncle did my hair, I didn't argue with what he thought it should look like.

Regarding the sabotage thing...My maid of honor told us our gift from her was our wedding night hotel room. A suite at a nearby hotel. Last minute I had the idea to call and verify. No suite was ever booked. The day of our wedding I was scrambling to find a place for us to stay on our wedding night. My maid of honor was...my own, recently divorced, sister.

Doom said...

What about neurosis and women confuses you. I don't know whether women are just deeply optimistic or if they are completely mad. They often kill their own game, sometimes for a reason sometimes not, then act is if the loss was a victory, if they even recognize the loss. Messing in there with a woman who is clearly self deluded, a liar, or simply insane is like poking a dead fish on the riverside just for fun. Which it is, but that is beside the point.

Emma said...

Actually, I totally believe her when she says short hair filters out a certain type of guys. When I was really skinny, all sorts of overly dominant guys were attracted to me, and it scared me. I decided to gain weight on purpose, to make them go away.

I remember reading a study that certain male attitudes (benevolent sexism and sociosexual unrestrictedness) was associated with greater desire for bigger boobs, greater thinness and more makeup. So if like me, you don't like dominant unrestricted alpha guys, short hair might actually do the trick... Or weight gain (although non-dominant sweet guys are men, too, and you can't go too far with this).

And I did actually end up with a well-read, interesting, great in bed, intelligent guy, who thinks chubby women are sexier than thin women. He even told me "You look great as you are, but some weight wouldn't hurt", so he is not doing it just to avoid hurting my feelings.

Markku said...

You're missing the point. I saw a black woman with her hair cut very shirt in a cut that you'd normally see on black men, and I'd personally smang it all night long.

The only relevant question is if you'd feel as horny, or perhaps even less so, had she had long hair. We are all pretty much in agreement that short hair isn't a universal showstopper, if the underlying SMV is sufficiently high. It merely amounts to an SMV penalty.

I'd be very interested to encounter even one man who genuinely prefers short hair, and who I could trust not to say it just because he thinks it's what he should say. Currently I write it off as a strange fetish that probably exists out there, but that is so far removed from my own sphere of experience that I'm extremely sceptical of really meeting such a man.

BoysMom said...

No one can see any of the eighty-bazillion beads or sequins or what-not on the back of your wedding gown if your hair's down?

I don't know. My hair caught on my eighty or so buttons, but that's what I got for wearing my grandmother's wedding gown, buttons, apparently, were the in thing at the time it was made. (That would be seventy-two years ago now.)

Long hair put up in general is to keep it clean and out of the way, which is not exactly a concern on a wedding day.

Sigyn said...

For the record, GF Mom and I eloped twenty years ago, partially to avoid that kind of crap from her mother and friends.

His Lordship and I didn't have a wedding, either--but it was probably for different reasons. *innocent look*

Anonymous said...

I had short hair, and managed to attract a cross-dressing unicyclist, followed by a pot-head with lice. I grew my hair, and now the guy I'm marrying goes to Oxford university and reads the Lancet to me before bed. I'm never cutting it again.

MrGreenMan said...

My hair is longer now.

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Martian Bachelor said...

> ... a cross-dressing unicyclist, followed by a pot-head with lice.

All the best guys are not controlled by stifling conventions of male beauty expectations.

> ... reads the Lancet to me before bed

See? How much kinkier can you really get?!

Anonymous said...

This is equivalent to a man saying :
Hey, I'm into the S&M scene and I constantly meet women who enjoy being tied up and beaten during sex.
This means that it is NOT TRUE that ALL women in general hate being tied up and beaten during sex.

Of course, the author will somehow "fail" to see the logical parallels here.

Quaker-Oats said...

I'm reminded of a friend of mine's girlfriend-wife, she's a fat a woman but she isn't an outright ugly woman, normally. I had always known her to have long hair and I always got a very homely vibe from her, kind of like I was hanging out with my grandmother when she was around. The first time I saw her with short hair I found myself actively repulsed to look at her.

I already knew I had a preference for long over short hair on women but I did not expect to see that huge a change in the way I saw that woman based on nothing other than the style she cut her hair to.

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