Sunday, February 3, 2013

The gamma's gambit

I've mentioned before that the gamma doesn't understand what is going on around him or the consequences of his actions.  That's precisely what we see in John "I'm a Rapist" Scalzi's response to the adorable and supposedly enjoyable attention being paid to him:
Here’s what I’m going to do: From now until the end of 2013 (and backdating to January 1st) when the Racist Sexist Homophobic Dipshit in question posts an entry on his site in which he uses my name (or one of his adorable nicknames for me), I’m going to put $5 into a pot. At the end of the year, I’m going to tally it up. All the money, up to $1,000, will be donated equally to the following organizations:

*RAINN

*Emily’s List

*Human Rights Campaign

*NAACP

Now, what this means is that, since I don’t want to have to read the Racist Sexist Homophobic Dipshit’s site, I’ll need someone to  monitor the dude’s site, and keep a spreadsheet for me. So I’m calling for volunteers. I will compensate you with signed first editions of The Human Division and The Mallet of Loving Correction when they come out, plus I’ll donate $250 in your name to go into the pot (on top of the up to $1,000 I will donate) to be disbursed to the organizations above. Email me with your interest.

As noted above, I’m backdating this to the first of the year, so the Racist Sexist Homophobic Dipshit in question has already caused money to go to each of these organizations. Well done him! I am sure he’s delighted to be helping to advance the causes of equality for women, gays and people of color, as well as funding an organization dedicated to helping those victimized by sexual assault. And each time he posts an entry that invokes me, one way or another, that’s another fiver into the pot. That’s 200 opportunities this year for him to prompt a contribution! I hope he takes advantage of all of them.
Now, I'm quite happy to help the poor gay little black girls to the contents of Mr. Scalzi's wallet and thereby do my own little bit for charity.  I certainly wouldn't want them to lose out on ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS by failing to play my part.  But that's of little import, what is much more interesting is the way that this latest gambit further illustrates what I've been saying about how the gamma handles conflict.

First, note that he refers to the situation as a "problem".  This is directly contrary to the stance he has publicly been taking until now, which was the unconvincing pretense that he was enjoying the conflict.  This is good, in that it shows he knows he cannot credibly continue to hide behind a facade of feigned pleasure, unfortunately, he still isn't willing to admit the extent to which his pride and his sensitivities have been wounded, much less how he is in over his head.  He hasn't been able to fully take the first step, but his foot is in motion and that is a nominally positive development.

Second, he has finally begun to grasp that he is powerless and that his actions mean nothing to me.  "Whether I ignore him or not doesn’t matter, so fine. I might as well get something productive out of it."  This, too, is indicative of a degree of progress in escaping his self-constructed alternate reality.  Remember, the opinion of others matters greatly to the gamma.  They find it hard, very hard, to imagine that the same is not necessarily true of those higher in the hierarchy.  John might still think I'm crazy to be so indifferent to the opinion of a whole hopping host of rabbits, but crazy or not, he is finally beginning to understand that this is, in fact, the case.

Third, he is still clinging to some illusions.  As NateM said: "He REALLY doesn't get you..."  The gamma never understands the ALPHA.  John has begun to grasp that his actions mean nothing to me, but he hasn't fully accepted that they truly mean nothing to me.  He can donate all of the royalties he received from his books in 2012 to those four charities or go off and fight for the Taliban in Afghanistan; it makes absolutely no difference to me.

Fourth, he's still not being entirely honest.  Does anyone believe that he truly hopes I take advantage of all 200 of them?  Does anyone believe this will be the last time we see any reference, however veiled, to the adorable RSHD?

Fifth, he's also still fighting in that inimitable passive-aggressive gamma style.  This is the appeal to the crowd.  "Look what a good person I am!  Isn't it terrible that he keeps hitting me?  Won't you please take my side?"  The rush of his fellow rabbits to affirm his goodness and what they mistakenly see as the brilliance of his gambit obscures, for the moment, that all he has managed to do is insure that they are out a collective $30,000$40,000 in 2013.  Remember, the gamma is reliably self-defeating.  Come on, rabbits, do I hear 50?  Hop to it!

Lest you be confused as to the real purpose, consider the following comment, which explains why the rabbits think their Chief Rabbit's latest hop is a brilliant one: "Yeah, that’s kinda the whole point of this subversive little enterprise. It works like the bumper stickers that announce plans to eat two animals for ever one animal veggies don’t. It gives the RSHD the power to stop tens of thousands of dollars in donations to causes to which he objects, and all he has to do is show restraint. If he doesn’t, it demonstrates that he cares more about blowing hot air than about his supposed principles."

It's all about the appeal to the audience with rabbits.  It always is.

Sixth, those who have suggested that I respond in some similar manner have demonstrated their own inability to understand the socio-sexual dynamics here.  Why would I respond to something so ludicrously irrelevant?  Does anyone really believe that a $10 million donation to the NRA would bother Mr. "I am a rapist" one-ten millionth as much the knowledge that he has been quoted, again, by me and others around the Internet?  The ALPHA response to someone saying "go ahead, punch me again, I dare you" is to call the bluff and punch him again.

Seventh, I have absolutely no doubt that wallowing in the warmth and welcome reassurance of the warren is much more fun for the gamma than the Super Bowl. 

Eighth, lest you have any doubt whatsoever of my identification of the Chief Rabbit as a gamma, consider this comment: "It seems to me that John’s new approach is a really astute response to this particular instance of bullying because it changes the frame. Ignoring the bully gives him free rein and has caused him to escalate. Trying to argue or justify yourself in the face of deliberate malice is obviously counter-productive. But raising money off the bully’s comments changes the game entirely."

That's right.  I'm not a critic.  It's not a serious matter of genuine ideological disagreement.  It's just simple bullying... which is an interesting admission of the perceived power dynamic here.

And finally, there is this: "And if this idea of yours of turning the RSHD’s insane vendetta into support for causes he hates doesn’t make his head explode, I don’t know what will!"

This reminds me of the Far Side cartoon.  Same planet, different worlds.  Suffice it to say, my head is not exploding.  It is merely shaking slowly, from side to side, in awe, at the comedy that is Man.

By the time this ends, presumably sometime around the year 2021, I expect the rabbits will be offering money directly to me as tribute.  Isn't it remarkable the lengths to which a gamma will go in his desperation to avoid the risk of being beaten in a fair fight in front of everyone?

66 comments:

Shimshon said...

Can't stop laughing. Make. It. Stop.

Elemental said...

So uber-gamma is basically paying people to give you traffic, publicity, and page views. Nice.

kh123 said...

"Yeah, that’s kinda the whole point of this subversive little enterprise. It works like the bumper stickers that announce plans to eat two animals for ever one animal veggies don’t."

Would this be in the same spirit of jailing 10 monks for every People's Army soldier that had a rock thrown at them. Free Tibet indeed, progressives.

SarahsDaughter said...

Bam
Why you hittin' yourself?
Bam
Why you hittin' yourself?
Bam
Why you hittin' yourself?

Yohami said...

"It works like the bumper stickers that announce plans to eat two animals for ever one animal veggies don’t. "

Eh. Im sure that works wonders.

"By the time this ends, sometime around the year 2021, I expect the rabbits will be offering money directly to me as tribute."

Laughing hard here.

Stickwick said...

It gives the RSHD the power to stop tens of thousands of dollars in donations to causes to which he objects, and all he has to do is show restraint. If he doesn’t, it demonstrates that he cares more about blowing hot air than about his supposed principles."

You weren't kidding; different worlds.

When rabbit people try to modify other people's behavior, it's always either candlelight vigils or gulags. We see the former here with the attempted charity extortion. I'll bet $5 that, once it becomes apparent this strategy has failed to move Vox in the slightest, someone at the Great Warren will suggest the only way to deal with people like Vox and his evil Ilk is to round them up and forcibly re-educate them or euthanize them.

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GF Dad said...

Rabbits gonna rabbit.

As I have said before, the educational value of this is priceless. Having been raised in the US Educational / Corporate America politically correct gulag, this is a re-education camp, but a good one.

kh123 said...

Given Scalzi's SWPL tendencies haven't made him lay out an IRS-style list of what qualifies for donation purposes, why not allow any mention of his name from anyone at relevant sites to help rattle the change cup - the more the better, right? After all, there have been at least several honorifics for John mentioned in the past month alone last count, not the least of which from Roissy.

Unless of course, Scalzi is exclusive with where he bestows his undivided manly attentions.

Mike M. said...

Racist, sexist,
homo-phobic
La Da.

You would think a professional writer (Scalzi) could come up with something more original than the tired old slogans.

Stickwick said...

This gambit is highly reminiscent of a scene from a Red Dwarf episode called "Polymorph." Since Scalzi's a SF writer, it's even more appropriate. So, what's happening is, a terrifying polymorphic creature that feeds off emotions has invaded the ship, and the crew is trying to figure out how to deal with it. Arnold Rimmer, who is the epitome of gamma, comes up with a quintessentially gamma strategy:

Here's my proposal. Let's get tough. The time for talking is over. Call it extreme if you like, but I propose we hit it hard and hit it fast with a major, and I mean major, leaflet campaign. And while it's reeling from that, we'll follow up with a whist drive, a car boot sale, some street theater, and possibly even some benefit concerts. OK? Now, if that's not enough, I'm sorry, it's time for the t-shirts ...

I may be wrong about the jump straight from the charity extortion to the gulag suggestion; there may be a t-shirt stop along the way.

kh123 said...

Good times, good times.

Yohami said...

Stickwick, watching that episode... thought it was already over when captain says this:

"I think we're losing sight of the real issue here, which is... how are we going to call ourselves"

clitoris.

Good show!

blackbolt2099 said...

Ok, so what exactly would be the correct "Alpha" response from Scalzi? If that's been covered somewhere I missed it.

Anonymous said...

But... but... if you think something is true long enough and hard enough it just has to be true! It just has to be!

Soga said...

What he's pledging is basically chump change for organizations, especially big organizations that tend to waste money more than actually do useful things with that money (with respect to their goals) like NAACP. But it's not exactly chump change for individuals like Rapelot Scatzi.

As a reader and fellow wolf, seeing prey like him squirm so amuses me.

Anonymous said...

I never understood this sort of "spite" donation because I am left drawing one of three conclusions

1) It would cause him financial hardship to donate the money considering the severity of the loss limiting behavior ($5 a pop, $1250 cap)

2) He was planning on donating the money to these causes anyway and is just driving eyeballs to both this site and his own, which oddly enough enhances the value of the site he presumes to detest.

3) He doesn't actually really support any of these causes, he just has some warped sense of the enemy of my enemy is my friend

kh123 said...

"Rapelot Scatzi."

See, perfect example of what should qualify for a mention donation. Why would you want to deny the NAACP monies, John? Step up the game, let every mention of your grand self be financially fruitful and multiply.

Duke of Earl said...

Ok, so what exactly would be the correct "Alpha" response from Scalzi? If that's been covered somewhere I missed it.

Shrug and ignore it. Perhaps a bit of, "heh, yes I have acted like a dick."

Basically anything other than what he did. If you don't want to fight, just walk away. Of course if Scalzi actually acted like that, then Vox wouldn't be able to use him as an object lesson on the idiocy of Gamma.

Rex Little said...

A couple of suggestions for Vox during the coming year:

1. Don't max out your 200 mentions early; spread them out so that his monitors have to keep watching your sites all year.

2. When possible, don't actually give his name (or nickname); just make it clear who you're talking about. Some of his followers have proposed setting up an automated search for his name on your sites instead of doing their own monitoring, and we wouldn't want them to get off that easily.

The idea here isn't to boost your site views; I know you don't care about that. The point is that these people have made it clear that reading your stuff is painful for them. Some of the poor dears may have to be fed intravenously because their gag reflex won't let them keep food down. As an AWCA, this is the sort of thing you should take full advantage of.

OCS said...

I believe that this is an accurate representation of how Scalzi started his blog:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nBbgcYdweE

OCS said...

Bah, forgot the darn anchor tag:

Dramatic Rabbit Performance

Unending Improvement said...

I think the day they offer to pay you not to play the game will be the best. Of course you won't care about the money if it comes down to that.

And "Ignoring the bully gives him free rein and has caused him to escalate." just makes me laugh. The scalzied manboob acts like he's been ignoring you. He hasn't. He thinks that by denying your name he's denying your power. In fact, he is doing the opposite. By refusing to use your name, he is giving you power. (As an aside, I learned that in my recovery from my oneitis. The lessons of the SMP are crucial.)

Gammas are nothing if not arrogant, unjustified of course. He's so arrogant he thinks that 1 grand makes a difference. I've blown 1 grand in a few nights before. It's nothing. 1 grand does nothing for his "charities", and it's certainly not going to deter someone who is in this just for the amusement.

John Scalzi does not affect my life. I don't see him on the news. I don't visit his blog. I don't follow him on Twitter. I only see him due to Vox's amusement. With that being the case, only a Gamma as proud of his gammatude as Scalzi would continue to insist that we go after him because we're threatened. If anything we go after him because we're little children who find everything funny.

Matthew Walker said...

"If he doesn’t, it demonstrates that he cares more about blowing hot air than about his supposed principles."

Little girl logic: "If you do what I don't want you to, that means the opposite because I said so! So there! (Sticks tongue out)"

Also why the fuck would you care if somebody donates money to a cause you don't give a shit about? They're like a pacifist smirking about how he humiliated a rapist by letting the guy rape his wife. "He'll have to live with the knowledge of my moral superiority -- FOREVER!" No, you little shit, you wife will have to live with your worthlessness.

I thought you were exaggerating the degree to which you'd owned the poor little bunnies, but I was wrong. Oh, so wrong.

Matthew Walker said...

The funny thing (OK, a funny thing) about proggies is, they take pride in how creative they are at imagining solutions to problems, but they only have to be imaginative because they invariably reject any solution which has actually been shown to have any hope of working.

When they want the economy to grow, the ONLY option that is automatically, reflexively off the table is improving conditions for businesses to grow and hire more workers. Instead, they very innovatively and creatively toy with dozens of creative and innovative ways to punish anybody who hires a worker and prevent anybody from growing.

It's amazingly like a blue-pill man trying to rekindle his woman's romantic interest by innovating creatively in the field of supplication and self-abasement.

Disposable Guitar Hero said...

Great, now my rabbit neighbors are going to send Sarah McGloughlin a check every time I yell at my dog for crapping in her water bowl.
*sulk*

Woman's gonna get rich.
Rabbits gonna rabbit.

kh123 said...

"2. When possible, don't actually give his name (or nickname); just make it clear who you're talking about. Some of his followers have proposed setting up an automated search for his name on your sites instead of doing their own monitoring, and we wouldn't want them to get off that easily."

This is presumably what Scalzi wants in this instance - distance from the humiliation.

If anything, and if the stats posted recently are accurate, Vox's insistence on using John's actual name will more than likely wind up in search engine queries. Hence, not far behind or ahead of Scalzi's blog or published works will be post titles featuring some variation of Rapey McRaperson or Rabbit Lord of the Red Shirt Warren.

Kickass said...

I have to say, I am surprized. I expected a Slut Walk.

Johnny Caustic said...

Wow. Insane as the Chief Rabbit's gambit is, those comments from the Bunny Infantry betray a misreading of human nature so fantastical you could get a good SF novel out of it.

"It seems to me that John’s new approach is a really astute response to this particular instance of bullying because it changes the frame." You see, sir, for every time you punch me in the face, I'm going to give a gay black youth a job at an NGO. Ha, reframe! Let's see you punch me in the face now!

"If he doesn’t [show restraint], it demonstrates that he cares more about blowing hot air than about his supposed principles." I as a liberal am infuriated by those who support things I disagree with, therefore Vox's evil principles will oblige him to avoid behaviors that might indirectly benefit non-racist non-sexist non-homophobic non-dipshits. How could he respond any other way? It's just logical.

"If this idea of yours of turning the RSHD’s insane vendetta into support for causes he hates doesn’t make his head explode, I don’t know what will!" You know, my head always explodes when they let immigration opponents or gay marriage opponents speak on the evening news. Ha ha, now it's your turn, Mr. Day!

Desiderius said...

"It's amazingly like a blue-pill man trying to rekindle his woman's romantic interest by innovating creatively in the field of supplication and self-abasement."

It's not "like", it is. Given the distaste for Patriarchy expressed by those organizations, I doubt they'll appreciate his patronage as much as he imagines.

"If this idea of yours of turning the RSHD’s insane vendetta into support for causes he hates doesn’t make his head explode, I don’t know what will!"

The opposite of love is not hate, it is indifference.

VD is indifferent to those organizations. If colored people want to advance themselves, more power to them - no skin off of his teeth.

He does demonstrably hate Scalzi and what he represents.

Anonymous said...

ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS

You were touching the corner of your mouth with the tip of your little finger while making the evil eyes when you typed that, weren't you.

rycamor said...

The gamma is forever rewriting the script in his head to try and make the other guy fit his crude stereotype. This drives him to miss the searingly, blindingly obvious, as does this guy mentioned in Vox's other blog. It really is beautiful to see them do their little rage dance, unaware that their strings are being pulled.

...

Anyone but the gamma would recognize it as leg-pulling, and freaking GET OVER IT.

Anonymous said...

Carthago delenda est.

Just end every post with something like "Scalzi is a rapist!"

OffTheCuff said...

I think Vox should donate 2000 himself to the NAACP. Like one donation matters...

Anonymous said...

2000 lira?

Loki of Asgard said...

I was going to donate a damn, but I appear to be fresh out of them. Pity.

Disposable Guitar Hero said...

I'll donate my dogs water bowl.

After she fills it up.

Hermit said...

"the educational value of this is priceless"

Some people have asked if Vox will restart Voxiversity. I say Voxiversity never stopped.

dalrock said...

It is interesting that he is both avoiding mentioning your name and trying to punish you for mentioning his. It is a good thing none of this bothers him.

Log said...

Apparently, alphas care greatly what others think of them too, from martial arts classes to blog readerships.

kh123 said...

The train has arrived, as is fine.

Love's Orphan said...

In his mind, he is presents Vox with a capital dilemma. Call Scalzi out and he will "help" those organizations. Otherwise it will create some kind of cease fire (very unlikely). He gives Vox the power and responsibility to make the choice; complete submission. He must know he is submitting at some level because he has put a limit to his donation spree. Scalzi just took passive aggressiveness to a new high. "Passive agressiveness a la Scalzi" They will teach this case in Men's Studies classes.

Jack Amok said...

I may be wrong about the jump straight from the charity extortion to the gulag suggestion; there may be a t-shirt stop along the way.

Let's not forget bumper stickers.

Hey! Maybe I should make up a "Hop To It/Defend the Warren/Shame RSHD Now!" bumper sticker and sell it to the rabbits.

Professor Ashur said...

It seems he has all the drawbacks of a hybrid of male and female intellectual and social attributes.

VD said...

Apparently, alphas care greatly what others think of them too, from martial arts classes to blog readerships.

Of course alphas do. They care that everyone knows that they are on top of the totem pole. But that's as far as it goes.

Also, I'm not an alpha. The sigma cares about what he chooses to care about. I very much did care what my fellow Dragons thought. I very much do care what my soccer teammates think. But it's not the default position vis-a-vis everyone as with the gamma.

And the readership? Some of it yes, most of it not at all. That totally depends upon my respect for the individual.

Anonymous said...

How did this thing start again?

I forgot.

Starr said...

If you wanted to be really cruel you could not talk about him for a month or so to give him just a glimmer of hope he's succeeded before launching your next salvo

VD said...

How did this thing start again?

Look up "New Heights of Prestige for the Nebula Award" on Electrolite.

LP 999/Eliza said...

What? Where is the SPLC in this list?!

Sorry, I couldn't resist the humor of it all.

ScaRa doesn't live in reality, he could have responded completely differently and yet chose not to.

BlackJack said...

From the comments:

Man oh man. I really want to help with this, but I’m guessing RSH(N)D’s website is triggery as ****

Professional victim wallowing in her own brokenness or just a chick that read too many blog stories about other people getting raped?

Beefy Levinson said...

This is rapidly becoming a daily ritual for me: wake up at the crack of dawn, pop open a can of Rockstar, take a deep drag on a cigarette, and enjoy a hearty chuckle at McRapey's expense. Seriously, I hope he realizes that this is an opportunity for growth. It's a good thing when more men take the red pill. But this is gold Jerry, gold!

Lamarck Leland said...

"Remember, we usually give away our values in the process of attacking others. " ~ VD

“Today I will offend racist sexist homophobic dipshits simply by EXISTING" ~ John Scalzi

It's the mere existence of different people that is offensive to the rabbits that's how they rationalize that you must "hate" anyone who is different from you.

"A bigot likes to invoke me; now when he does I raise money for the people he hates."

Convincing these people that they are not thinking correctly is impossible.

Accepting MPAI is still one of the most difficult things in life for me.
Resignation, resignation.

Joshua_D said...

"By the time this ends, presumably sometime around the year 2021, I expect the rabbits will be offering money directly to me as tribute."

I laughed. "Just take our money! Please!"

Alexander said...

What astonishes me is that Scalzi can not have possible taken the time to imagine what would happen if the roles were reversed. Is Scalzi saying that if 'threatened' with a one-thousand dollar donation to the NRA, he would censor his own site of any topic the donaterrorist desired? Is there anything he wouldn't do if the price on third party paid to another third party were high enough?

My first inclination is to say this is simple shortsightedness on his part. The more I see, however...

BrandNewPerson said...

Semi off topic, but seeing as how the accusations of racism are flying out of the left at a steady pace, I wanted to present this question because I don't see people pointing this out or asking this much (or really at all). How come more people don't point out the inherent racism and condescending viewpoint of race so inherent in the liberal position? I realize most lefties are adapt at olympian feats of mental gymnastics, but it seems to me a direct correlation can be drawn about their stance on race directly from their actions.

I have heard it asked why don't most liberals just give up a large majority of their incomes to charity/the poor/invalids/drug addicts/etc. as per their socialistic ethos. It's pretty perspicuous (nice word I learned from watching the Shield) to anybody with common sense that their default position is one of smug contempt for black races.

Why else would they think that the poor poor black man, proud and capable yet beset on all sides by the unholy indignation of the racist white patriarchy, would be unable to ever achieve any sort of success (per the liberal idea as I read mentioned on this blog I believe [which got me thinking about this]) without the kind (bleeding) hearted liberal massa constantly mollifying their existence, treating them as children with little to no responsibility for being able to care for themselves?

Also, a thought on feminism and cuckoldry in the same regard. Why is it that the "new masculinity" pushed by feminism is one of male effeminization and female domination, yet there is an increasing rise in the genre of porn/thought/blog postings/internet ramblings/etc. of black on white cuckoldry in liberal circles? It seems that their vichy males, so thoroughly emasculated, can't get the giny tingles going, so these ladies assert their T-Level dominance over said betas and pick a "black stud", who retains some trace traits of a masculine culture, to be her lover (sex pet). Not only is she insulting her beta evil patriarchal white male per her feminist imperative, she is simultaneously accepting and encouraging a negative and damaging racist stereotype of black men as a form of (sex) slave.

Of course the rationalization wheels spin and spin and spin, so I imagine that pointing this out and them admitting it would be about as likely as, say, Scalzi not spending his weekends masturbating to my little bronie porn.

tz said...

Although I can appreciate the insouciance, I really, really want someone to hack "Emily's list" and post that image of Scalzi with his legs spread and wearing the wig. Mainly because it would be likely to suppress donations for several months, far much more than images of shredded fetuses.

Maybe he should do a pink "gamma". Upside down it is a symbol of the Komen fight against breast cancer. But it seems that the inverted gamma is a symbol of ineffective but feel-good actions, just pick your color.

The only thing which often saves Gammas is that they are beneath contempt. And I would not laugh as hard.

Once anyone learns to either ignore or respond with real aggression to passive-aggression, the opponent has lost.

Note carefully he limits his liability to $1k. I can give him credit for not picking 501c3 orgs so he could deduct things (assuming he didn't realize this). The punch is pulled. The risk is mitigated. Marquis of Queensbury.

Johnny Caustic said...

I wanted to present this question because I don't see people pointing this out or asking this much (or really at all). How come more people don't point out the inherent racism and condescending viewpoint of race so inherent in the liberal position?

Because the liberal position isn't really anti-racism; it's moral preening. Here's one of Lawrence Auster's best pieces of analysis:

"the liberal order articulates the world through a “script” in which there are three characters: the white liberal, who embodies the non-discriminatory virtue of the liberal regime; the white non-liberal, who discriminates against nonwhites and who must be crushed by the white liberal; and the nonwhite/non-Westerner, who either is discriminated against by the white non-liberal or is non-discriminatorily included by the white liberal. In the script, furthermore, only the white liberal and the white non-liberal are moral actors, with the first representing good and the second representing evil. The nonwhite/non-Westerner is not a moral actor, but is simply the passive recipient of the white liberal’s goodness or of the white non-liberal’s bigotry. The reason that the nonwhite/non-Westerner cannot be a moral actor is that his very function in the script is to be the recipient of either good non-discrimination or evil discrimination. If he were a moral actor, then his own actions would have to be judged; specifically, his bad actions would have to be judged. But to judge his bad actions would be to discriminate against him. And since the central purpose of liberalism is to eliminate all discriminatory treatment of nonwhites/non-Westerners, moral judgement of nonwhites/non-Westerners must also be eliminated. Therefore nonwhites/non-Westerners cannot be seen as responsible moral actors."

tl;dr: The purpose of colored people is to be a prop with which the liberal demonstrates his moral superiority over you.

Yohami said...

what Lawrence Auster said also applies to feminism

BrandNewPerson said...

tl;dr: The purpose of colored people is to be a prop with which the liberal demonstrates his moral superiority over you.

This was pretty much the conclusion I drew, nothing quite like a bit of high profile preening to stoke the narcissistic ego of the typical lefty. The condescending treatment of non-whites (The nonwhite/non-Westerner is not a moral actor, but is simply the passive recipient of the white liberal’s goodness/Therefore nonwhites/non-Westerners cannot be seen as responsible moral actors.) still comes off rather bigoted to me, offhandedly acknowledging the minorities inability to function without constant coddling and protection, like a "do as we say, we know what's best for you" attitude. Although since this is their default attitude towards all non-manginas, I suppose it's less about superiority of race, and more about "superiority of moral positioning" as you point out.

@Yohami - is there a difference between "regular" liberals and feminists at this point?

Johnny Caustic said...

The condescending treatment of non-whites still comes off rather bigoted to me

I agree completely. But human nature is bigoted, and always will be. Liberals just direct the instinct in perverse ways so they can deny to themselves what they really stand for. Equalitarians aren't really about equality at all, just as Communists don't really care about the proletariat.

I'm not claiming to be any less bigoted than them. I look at Rhodesia/Zimbabwe and Detroit and naturally conclude that collectively, blacks aren't competent even to govern a civilization passed down to them by whites (Ethiopians possibly excepted--not all black races are alike). But my bigotry is conscious and based on observation. Liberal condescension is based on denial...they can't entirely deny the dysfunction of blacks and Hispanics in America or Muslims in Europe, so they have to deny that those groups are responsible for their own dysfunction.

BrandNewPerson said...

I'm not claiming to be any less bigoted than them

Without a doubt neither am I, I just wondered if liberals were capable of being honest with themselves. But after typing that sentence out, I realize the answer was obvious to begin with, seeing as how passive aggressive vichy libtards can't be honest about a damn thing, let alone their own intentions.

BrandNewPerson said...

That's why I tend to advocate that they donate all their wordly income and possessions to the poor and go live in the ghetto with the people they "so adore". I have lived in these places, and like you my views are based in rational thought drawn from innumerable observable instances.

Although something tells me that they will let the hamster loose ala amanda kijera when something happens.

Bogey said...

"Look up "New Heights of Prestige for the Nebula Award" on Electrolite."
That was one hell of long thread. Interesting, that Nick B guy virtually took over the thread near the end and destroyed everyone with logic, good stuff.

http://nielsenhayden.com/electrolite/archives/006122.html

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