Thursday, December 15, 2011

The broad utility of Game

There have been more than a few misguided souls who continue to lionize Game while simultaneously failing to understand what it actually is. Game is not a philosophy. It is not a way of life. There is no part of it - none - that is intrinsically linked to sex, pick-up artistry, or even inter-sexual relations, and the ALPHA-BETA distinction, far from being the essence of Game, barely scratches the surface of what is a very powerful and effective concept.

Those who think Game is somehow limited to its initial, Straussian manifestation are confusing the seed with the hypothetical harvest. The conventional aspect of Game that is related to young men having more casual sex with more attractive women is merely its initial application; reducing Game to pick-up artistry is akin to claiming that a computer is a Facebook device.

This is why it is a category error to ask if Game is compatible with Christianity or if Game is applicable to the workplace. The question makes no more sense than asking if gravity is compatible with Buddhism or if thermodynamics is applicable to the home.

Now, I have always pointed out that I am not a critic of Roissy, but rather one of the many who respect him and have extended some of the concepts he first articulated. It is interesting to see that unlike many of his more enthusiastic acolytes, he, (or perhaps one of his co-writers), publicly recognizes that the utility of Game goes well beyond its effective use by pick-up artists. For, as he writes at the Chateau, Game is universal:
For those denialists of the human condition who completely misunderstand and fervently believe that game only works on bar sluts, behold its power to improve relationships with overbearing mothers.
Of course, even this unconventional use of Game is still an inter-sexual one. But because Game is, at its heart, the conscious and articulated simulation of the attitudes and behavior of successful individuals in order to achieve better results than one has hitherto experienced, it can be used effectively in a very wide variety of situations, many of which have nothing at all to do with sex.

19 comments:

Anonymous said...

"But because Game is, at its heart, the conscious and articulated simulation of the attitudes and behavior of successful individuals in order to achieve better results than one has hitherto experienced, it can be used effectively in a very wide variety of situations, many of which have nothing at all to do with sex."

Amen. And this also refutes the equally idiotic assertion by game haters that Game is just pussy-begging. Then again, all one needs to do is watch a season or two of The Dog Whisperer (Cesar Milan) to understand this.

Koanic said...

I would argue that simulation of attitudes and behaviors of others is still more the seed than the tree.

Game can produce hitherto unseen natural fruit, if it hasn't already (and I suspect it has).

David said...

Game in this broad sense is nothing new:

“There is a kind of greatness which does not depend upon fortune; it is a certain manner that distinguishes us, and which seems to destine us for great things; it is the value we insensibly set upon ourselves; it is by this quality that we gain the deference of other men, and it is this which commonly raises us more above them than birth, rank, or even merit itself.” –Francois de la Rochefoucauld

modernguy said...

If game is simulating the manner of those who are successful then this blog must be an exercise in it, since you speak with confidence but don't know what you're talking about.

Game is not even well defined. Is has been described as a natural expression of masculinity, confidence, charisma, simulation, or status. None of which necessarily imply any of the others or require each other.

The actual techniques which comprise game are pretty specifically aimed at creating an effect on women. To claim that game is universal beyond that is specious as best, and really just bullshit. What techniques does one use on other men that would be commonly understood as "game"?

If you claim that game is aping that expression of success, which success? Would buying a Porsche on credit make one more likely to become rich?

Even if it was that, by advocating it you would be advocating that people falsify themselves towards other, which is evil.

Anonymous said...

There is nothing interesting to the concept of game or the socio-sexual hierarchy.

Let's boil these concepts down to what little substance they have: Sometimes you're in charge and sometimes you're not.

Great. I'm there. I got that and the poon. Sure was complicated, wasn't it?

Do we need a blog devoted to spinning tales of such a simplistic narrative, with its "poon" resources or do men desire more?

Compare the resources offered at the sites I mentioned in the Society and Game post. Would we prefer our sons taking silly multiple choice surveys about picking up the poon up at the party or would we prefer they contemplate what their own signature gifts might be so that when they stand next to their "manly" peers, they know what they have to add- and what they can subtract.

Once a man learns that he will find satisfaction by being proactive, confident, and the arbiter of at least some of his own choices against the will of others, then and only then does the hard work begin. We don't need any more stories about pathetic stumps who learned this and got the girl. Duh. Let's honk our own horns some more about how we also discovered that embracing these values would get us the girl and/or many other things.

We need substance, not the sweet, easy dwelling on crass, overly-simplistic models.

Vox said...

If game is simulating the manner of those who are successful then this blog must be an exercise in it, since you speak with confidence but don't know what you're talking about.

That's nice. Why don't you go away and frequent one of those blogs you regard more highly.


There is nothing interesting to the concept of game or the socio-sexual hierarchy.

That's nice. Why don't you go away and frequent one of those blogs you regard more highly.

indyguy77@work said...

Come on, Vox! Have a heart!

These losers need some room somewhere for which they're just too damn cool. Even if no one believes them.

Anonymous said...

"That's nice. Why don't you go away and frequent one of those blogs you regard more highly."

Obviously there must be a reason we stay.

The more interesting question is, why do you choose to create the type of community you have here and what direction to you intend to take it in?

CL said...

Frame control is an essential element of Game that is applicable anywhere. It changes the way you interact with the world if you apply it. A lot of people, especially women, get caught up in criticising the lifestyle choices of some of the main proponents of Game - i.e. PUAs - and thus miss the essential truths about human nature contained therein. Any information can be used for good or ill; the information itself is morally neutral.

Houston said...

"...Game is, at its heart, the conscious and articulated simulation of the attitudes and behavior of successful individuals in order to achieve better results than one has hitherto experienced..."

And it has done more for me than all of my late father's well-intentioned, but useless, chiding. What I needed was a consistent theoretical explanation for success and failure in the social hierarchy and in relations between the sexes (a major communication problem, compounded by the fact that he was a Sigma, Silent Generation man who'd come of age in a pre-feminist world). Game, and Vox's articulation of Game principles in particular, has provided this. Just having labels for different kinds of behavior (shit tests, demonstrating higher/lower value, etc.) has allowed me to correct character flaws that I couldn't even clearly identify before.

Verbatim quote from my wife a couple of weeks ago: "I thank God you're reading Vox Day and the Game blogs. You're not the same man I married." Nothing new, huh? Neither is color, unless you've been colorblind your whole life and have just been cured of it.

Markku said...

Obviously there must be a reason we stay.

Your kid likes AG, and you try to persuade him not to by attempting to shame Vox? "See, the emperor has no clothes!" sort of a deal?

Mrs. Pilgrim said...

Why do I get the impression that the Anonymous poster is female? Maybe it's the quick snap to assuming that this blog is all about gittin' summm.

Vox said...

The more interesting question is, why do you choose to create the type of community you have here and what direction to you intend to take it in?

First, I don't create the community. The community created itself. Those who are here are here because they wish to be.

Second, since I am not the creator or the manager of the community, I have no plans for it. It will go where it happens to go.

I'm not an Alpha. I'm not the leader. And I don't care what you do.

Toby said...

The more interesting question is, why do you choose to create the type of community you have here and what direction to you intend to take it in?

You have know idea what you are blabbering about.

You are obviously new here. Hence your complete ignorance to how alphagameplan.blogspot.com came to exist

Anonymous said...

Human interaction is subject to the laws of nature. Game explains that science. It exists, whether you like it or not...ignore it at your own peril. - Solo

Anonymous said...

"I'm not an Alpha. I'm not the leader. And I don't care what you do."

No one said anything about you being an alpha or the leader. I also don't recall asking about your level of interest in my actions.

50fifty50 said...

Although this isn't technology as such, it reminds me of something my dad has always said.

New technology will always be first applied to the military, then to pornography.

So with game not neccesarily being applied to pornography, it's still relatively the same!

Susan Walsh said...

Thanks for the link, Vox, it just showed up for some reason.

For me the highlight of the article was the woman saying, "this is just another thing they lump onto women." Does she mean God? And aging? That's some heavy feminist programming there.

I had my kids at 30 and 32 and didn't realize then how fortunate I was that it was easy to get pregnant. As was alluded to here, our "progressive" sex ed programs don't educate women about their own reproductive cycles, although in my town of Brookline, MA the taxpayers were forced to support the teaching of fisting to high school students.

Real facts about fertility, coupled with the declining marriage rate, means that women should be actively seeking their life partner from the moment they graduate from college. (College, with its pervasive hookup culture, makes the search impractical before then.)

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