Thursday, July 28, 2011

Roissy, Roissy, wherefore art thou?

roissy.wordpress.com is no longer available. The authors have deleted this blog.

This would be a definite loss to the Game community. But if Roissy has indeed departed the Blogosphere, we shall do our best to do our part in helping fill those large and slightly sticky shoes.

66 comments:

JCclimber said...

Don't have time for it right now, but have an amusing story about game and little children.

And Roissy was up as little as 3 hours ago, so I wonder what happened...

Anonymous said...

Fortunately it was changed to http://heartiste.wordpress.com/

JCclimber said...

Here is the amusing story. My 5 year old son has 3 very cute 5 year old girls who really like him. They exhibit every game behavior, already at such a young age. They are jealous of each other, but don't blame him for liking the others, instead they vie for his attention (on those occasions where they are present at the same time).

Recently, the older sister of one had her sister and my son "get married" while they were playing in a park. A couple weeks later when they came to our house, she brought 2 dolls that she said were their children.

Anyway, about a week ago, this little girl, a 6 year old boy, and my son were playing together, and the girl tripped and fell. My son was laughing because it was funny. She started crying because he was laughing at her. The other boy ran over, and was asking if she was okay, etc.....then came to my son and told him he should apologize for hurting her feelings.

My son refused to apologize, and said he didn't want to be married to her anymore because of the tears and drama. The next day, the other boy asked this girl if she wanted to be his girlfriend. She said "No", she wants to remain married to my son.

He was so confused. "But remember, I was the one who came over and asked if you were all right, and asked {my son} to apologize, and I stuck up for you!".

The girl patched things up with my son the next time they met.

Anonymous said...

ahh how pathetic

JCclimber said...

Here is what is so amusing. Even at such a young age (and none of these children are contaminated by TV or preschool), these children illustrate how effective game is as a guide.

My son, praised by many for being kind and considerate and well-behaved, has been exhibiting the aloof alpha behavior with these girls, and they respond to it just as their older gender mates would. It shows me there doesn't have to be a conflict with being a Christian and being alpha.

The other boy, poor kid, is being raised with beta behaviors. Asking the girl if she likes him. Sticking up for her against her "boyfriend". Trying to move in the next day by hoping white knight behavior bought him some affection. And being confused by the rebuttal of his (romantic) attention.

It gives me hope that being raised with beta behaviors, I can and have overcome that for the most part, to the point where I am teaching more alpha traits to my son without consciously trying.

I thank this blog for part of that, and it is why I've sent several worthy men in this direction for help.

jay c said...

You mean "Whither art thou?" Location, not causation.


"I am not the reality police. I am not the reality police. I am not the reality police...."

Plumpcake said...

He's still around.

heartiste.wordpress.com

SarahsDaughter said...

While at the salon today a short pudgy black stylist was expressing her delight for an app on her droid that allows her to hide certain phone numbers and text conversations. Now her boy toy will not be able to see her interchanges with her other boys.

Later she talked of her uncontrollable desire for bad boys. If they've been to prison, all the better. "Ummm ummm umm, I just can't help it."

No surprise she is a 22 year old single mom that's been divorced once already.

She was upset that she continually gets told that she looks 16 (she does). I asked her how old she thinks I am. I delighted in her reply: "26." I said, "now see, you just guessed me 10 years younger than I am, people only think you're 6 years younger than you are, you're fine." She said, "oh, okay."

I know, you're not supposed to tease retards but sometimes it's irresistible.

BTW, Loved your story JC.

Markku said...
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The LP 999/Linda said...

So he'll be contributing here, right?

The LP 999/Linda said...

I don't care for the change over. Any url like 'heart' is. Never mind. I shall remain positive :)

Anonymous said...

Yeah, 'heartiste' just screams 'pretentious twit'.

indyguy77@work said...

As though the whole "Roissy / Chateau" wasn't pretentious?

Anonymous said...

"Heartiste" takes it to a whole new level.

JCclimber said...

Quick correction to my story. The 6 year old boy, has already had 2 years of indoctrination in the feminist public schools of California's bay area.

My wife has corrected my assumption that since he joins the afternoon Japanese playgroup, he wasn't enrolled in school yet.

The LP 999/Linda said...

Ah, well...end thought its ok. I'm just picky, then again I chose The LP...So what do I know :)

The LP 999/Linda said...

Classic LP typo: 2nd = end.

Giraffe said...

Forget Roissy, where is the Aplha Game team?

This is the only post in a week.

James A. Donald said...

Roissy's blog is now at hartiste.wordpress.com, but is Roissy?

The latest post reads to be written by some gay from comsmo

alphapersona said...

I'm 900% sure Roissy got hacked.

Anonymous said...

I'm in agreement that Roissy got hacked. Look at the twitter posts that are continually being updated, and the most recent tattooed idiot on the twitter page.

Markku said...

I don't think he got hacked. The default avatar image generation algorithm has changed. For the better, I might add. No reason a hacker would do that.

Markku said...

However, the artist -> heartist pun would have been somewhat pretentious. But heartistE is just flaming.

Crowhill said...

Since this seems to be a rather general post, I thought I'd toss in something a little off topic.

I have often pondered why some churches tend to have way more women than men. There are a lot of possible explanations, and there's some interesting stuff on the web on the subject, but here's one angle I hadn't considered.

Could it be that men are more likely to be interested in very detailed doctrinal issues?

Read this from Roissy and think about how it might affect male / female church participation.

Is it possible that churches with intellectually pitiful sermons and superficial treatments of complicated issues tend to alienate men a little more than they alientate women?

Anonymous said...

what the heck does "heartiste" even men?

Crowhill said...

I suppose it's a play on "artiste"

Vidad said...

"Is it possible that churches with intellectually pitiful sermons and superficial treatments of complicated issues tend to alienate men a little more than they alientate women?"

Yes. It goes back to the Platonist divide between the heart and mind. Christianity, thanks to the Great Awakenings (which absorbed Platonism), has fallen prey to a touchy-feely anti-intellectualism. Nancy Pearcy does a good job tracing its fall to American emotionalism in "Total Truth."

Mrs. Pilgrim said...

@ Crowhill:

That's nothing new. Devout Christians, male and female alike, are repelled by meatless sermons. It so happens that it's just easier for half-Christian women to be attracted to the fluffy feel-good of modern churchianity.

Jennifer said...

Roissy really can be clueless.

Sarah, great thoughts.

"It shows me there doesn't have to be a conflict with being a Christian and being alpha"

Um, there is a difference between being a Christian and being a jerky alpha, esp. if you're a GROWN MAN who laughs at his wife when she hurts herself. I have a hard time believing you'd support this nonsense. That other little boy was charming and had guts to stand up to your son that way. Maybe the girl stayed "married" out of a sense of loyalty to your son, if he was generally sweet.

I dunno, maybe she overreacted and learned something about drama; if she really didn't get hurt, it shouldn't have been a big deal. But on the other hand, this somewhat reminds me of much older girls who let themselves chase unworthy and unkind boys. Funny thing is, if they WERE married, her actions would be mature and loyal, whereas his would be immature and jerky. If I were in her place, I'd later regret hurting the nice boy's feelings. If your wife ever fell and actually got hurt in public, I'm guessing you wouldn't laugh at her.

It seems you're teaching your son well; but if any of your kids ever play "aloof game" by stringing a girl along or letting some other kids laugh at her and joining in, I'm sure you know that's cowardice, not alpha-ism.

"Sticking up for her against her "boyfriend"

God forbid a boy ever be "beta" enough to do that. Seriously? Even if the boyfriend's a real jerk, another guy stepping in would be "beta"? I think you're confused about Christianity's appliance here.

SarahsDaughter said...

Jennifer,
You're a bit off. A rational woman will laugh at her own damn self along with her alpha husband. Quite like I did just a few weeks ago, tripping over a child gate and scrapping up my leg. I had even thought I should take down the gate and not attempt walking over it (with a bucket of deck stain). Like an idiot, I didn't and had to continue staining the deck with ice wrapped around my leg. When my husband saw me, we had a good laugh over my blondness. There is no need for drama even when there is physical pain. JC described a very normal event, a young child trips and falls. They're clumsy and should know that's a fact. There is a reason why America's Funniest Home Videos has a ton of clumsy trips in their reels. It's funny. There's no reason to be emo about it. Even when physical pain is involved, it lasts for a moment, but the humor of the situation lasts a long time. Should someone had a video camera rolling when I tripped over the gate, you would definitely enjoy a chuckle just as I still do when I recall the incident. Am I a jerk? No, just rational - nothing unChristian about it.

Jennifer said...

I agree, Sarah; you put things in good perspective. I just don't like the promotion of "aloof" game when people are already in a relationship (this, and a boy intervening if he sees someone's boyfriend being a REAL jerk, were the center of my thoughts). Some men train alphas to never be truly apologetic about anything. But, OTOH, that little girl refused to be coddled; that's the kind of woman we need, refuting the coddling of unfair laws against men, for ex.

SarahsDaughter said...

Honey, the little girl didn't refuse to be coddled, she chose the boy that naturally suited her desire. The one that was the MOST honest and fitting to that which makes her giddy. I think you may be a little dishonest about this fact.
I'm not sure what REAL jerk behaviors you're referring to. Is it honesty? Rationale? The refusal to play an emo/drama game? When a guy is behaving rationally, what does he need to apologize for? A boy/guy that intervenes when an alpha behavior is being exhibited will always be overlooked because he his behaving as a "white knight" defender. It makes for ridiculous fiction but in reality, that guy does not get the girl.

Jennifer said...

Honesty and rationale, give me a break; hardly. The kind of jerk behaviors I'm talking about are flirting with other girls, stringing one girl along and keeping her in doubt of affection, and trying to say "I'm sorry" as little as possible even if a wrong's been done. I'm not being dishonest at all, and it is good that the kid decided she didn't need to be pandered to when she fell down.

"The refusal to play an emo/drama game?"

Incidentally, the ugly gamers tell men to deliberately play emo/drama games to keep the girl needy.

SarahsDaughter said...

I have no way to read your mind and what "real jerk" behaviors you are referring and I don't feel like playing whack-a-mole while you move goal posts. I thought we were talking about JC's little kid story. Maybe you should email Vox about the issues you're having with ugly gamers (?) and their antics.

Jennifer said...

I'm not moving goal posts; playing aloof game with a girl who's already interested is what JC mentioned and it's what I wouldn't want to see an older boy do.

Duke of Earl said...

As an older "boy", I have to say that aloof game works fine even in a relationship.

My fiancée relies on the fact that her emotional ups and downs don't affect me at all.

Jennifer said...

I guess it depends what you mean by aloof. Not beign swayed by fits is one thing, while pretending general disinterest or rejection in her is another.

SarahsDaughter said...

Jennifer, have you ever been with a man that demonstrated "aloof game?" He is not pretending disinterest, the men that don't understand women pretend interest. They are confused and somehow think that doting on a woman is the way to her heart/vagina.
Men are not swayed by fits, they either keep their manhood or surrender it. I've never met a man whose opinion/conviction/reality has been changed by a woman's fit. The ignorant will kowtow to the fit because he thinks that's the way to get sex. Little does he know, unfortunately, that should he treat her like the child she's being he'll get sex that much faster.

Jennifer said...

Well, as long as we're talking about avoiding being swayed by fits rather than pretending to not be interested, I'm good. But if a woman really got upset and he did the grownup version of what the kid in the story did, scorning her too harshly, I wouldn't be cool with that.

SarahsDaughter said...

Really? As a mother, I do not allow my daughters to have a "really upset" moment/fit. They are quickly reminded they are being irrational or overly emotional. They are scorned harshly and always come back apologizing for their behavior (their OMG moment as we call it in this house).
It is essential that a man not be interested in a woman's fit - even/especially if she's "really upset." The most effective reaction (should the fit happen at night) is to go to sleep. If it occurs during waking hours the man should walk away and later come back and say "are you done now?" You say you wouldn't be "cool with that," however, men - at this point of understanding of women - know you're lying. Your inner hamster may spin out of control but it plays out quite successfully for the man that will do this.

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Jennifer said...

I agree that unnecessary fits should be ignored. But I was talking about being upset for a GOOD reason, not throwing a childish fit over nothing (sorry for the deletes, can't edit my comments).

SarahsDaughter said...

Would that be a REALLY, REALLY good reason?

What woman amidst a fit doesn't believe it is for a GOOD reason?

Jennifer said...
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Jennifer said...

Well, there are less extreme kinds of emotional upset that women show which can be for very good reasons and which sometimes require being talked through. But I agree that a screaming fit never solves anything.

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