Roosh considers how an intentional pursuit of hedonistic pleasure inadvertently led to neomasculinity and a quest for truth:
How did game serve as the gateway drug? Simple: I kept asking why, as if I was an annoying 8-year-old child.The answer is straightforward: Game involves cutting through the lies society tells its boys and young men. And once a man develops a taste for the truth, he also develops a sense for when people are lying to him. Following that path leads a man to philosophy, and eventually, if he continues to walk upon it, to the Way, the Truth, and the Life.
- Why are woman attracted to me when I dance and act like an entertaining clown?
- Why did my father not have to act like a clown to attract my mom?
- Why has society changed to encourage women to pursue exciting “bad boys” and clowns over good men?
- Why are institutions like the media and universities pushing women into behaviors which harm them and the family unit?
- Why is there a concealed group of elites who seem to control politicians and the most important institutions?
There wasn’t only one step from having fun into the nightclub to fighting back against social justice warriors and the media, but several steps that had to take place over the past 15 years. My path weaved through sex and gender relations, but there are other paths as well, which I describe in The 5 Paths To Realizing Truth. For example, minimalism is another point of entry:
- Why are those institutions attacking me for speaking the truth?
When you live below your means, you begin to see that most people are unnecessarily living above theirs. That leads to the conclusion that they were trained to live a life of excess by corporations with the complicit help of a government that wants to keep society in a neverending state of indebtedness and distraction so they ignore everyday injustices while losing any will or desire to fight the establishment. The easiest stepping stone out of The Truman Show is to realize that consumer lifestyles are not the path to happiness, and those those who chase material possessions are misguided.
More than a few people have asked me what I saw in Roosh, and wondered why I was so willing to stand by him and defend him. The reason is because I recognized in him something that I knew of myself: he was genuinely seeking after truth and knowledge. Game is the gateway drug to truth.
And more often than not, it is the hedonist who seeks it most sincerely, as the examples of men from Aurelius Augustinus to Siddhārtha Gautama suffice to demonstrate. I am not saying Roosh is going to be a saint or a buddha, but I will say that he is much more likely to end up as one than the average man.
Commenter John Freeman has witnessed the transformation from the start:
It's been a very interesting ride, watching the entire manosphere drift toward alt right politics. Back in the day, blogs like Roissy and Roosh were nothing but game. People got all butthurt and complainy when he would throw out the odd political article. Now it's mostly alt right politics with a little bit of game. But to anyone who has been reading this whole time, the transition makes perfect sense.It's all related. It's all various aspects of one grand deception. So, it's not a mere coincidence that "breaking the chains, winning the games, and saving Western Civilization" has been the tagline of this blog from the beginning.
The thing is, you start tugging at one little lie, and all the rest of the lies start unraveling. If they would lie to us about sexual relations, about families, about misogyny, about the pay gap...what else would they be willing to lie about?
Turns out, the answer is EVERYTHING.
Would you rather have a few more years of being a sexual libertine, or would you rather save your civilization? That's the stark choice before us now.
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This reminds me of a quote used by "Hawaiian Libertarian" in which he describes "Game" as an application of Austrian economics. He uses the term "praxeology" in that article. At any rate, the quote goes as follows: "Game is truth but Truth is not game, but game leads to Truth."
Game & PUA have always been about the liberation of men, society's have always been based on the enslavement & marginalisation of men, instead of the liberation of men.
The enslavement & marginalisation of men, instead of the liberation of men. A basic definition of evil.
Irrespective of how immoral or moral, or how far you go against a religion or societal norms, when you inardvently fight evil, you always fight for good.
The difference is men always strive for the truth, irrespective of the norms women & their piss ant worms, the mangina's & their corrupt bureaucratic societies foist on men.
Call Game & PUA what you will, it is & always will be the truth.
Which is why Game & PUA will always inadvertently fight evil for the greater good.
Game & PUA is the truth, that society & civilisation should benefit men & only men. Women should be only used as artificial wombs or well paid surrogate whore's to inspire men, that is the only place for women.
If we want to avoid the destructive effects of women, we have to put women in their correct biological roles, we have to avoid placing women on roles they are unable to fulfill such as wives & mothers, & place them in roles they are able to fill as surrogate whores designed to inspire men to greater heights.
As a Gamer & PUA, irrespective of how traditional or restrictive our society becomes, we know women are incapable of being wives & mothers to our children, & that makes women a danger to our children.
We have to vacate the notion of fairness & civility to women. As it always transforms to the pedestalisation of women by pussified faggots.
If we want a fair & just society, we have to rid our society of the irrationality & injustice of the states of insanity created by women. Which infects the usual pussified faggots of society.
We have to break the cycle of insanity created by the biology of women.
"It's all related"
Yes. The 'merger' of Game and the Alt-Right has been an objective for years. Glad it's finally happening. here are plenty of supplicating beta-boys and mewling Churchians in the Alt-Right who reject Game, so we still have work to do.
"Yes. The 'merger' of Game and the Alt-Right has been an objective for years. "
It's about enabling men to be masculine & leaders. Our society is too hyper-sexualised to allow men to naturally learn how to be masculine & lead.
Hence the necessity & need for christians, traditionalists & fundamentalists, as well as the FarRight & Nationalists to teach their sons Game & PUA.
The religious will have to give up their puritan brainwashing implanted by the Jews & traitorous Vatican, & give their sons the weapons of war & mass destruction that is Game & PUA & The Red Pill. As well as a good dose of MGTOW, to warn them of how useless & dangerous women are to the average man.
Augustine's prayer - make me chaste, but not just yet.
Hedonism is dyscivic. And habit forming. Casanova and the Marquis de Sade didn't become saints.
The gospels are full of people who repented, and many who did not.
That will be the hardest part.
Most will prefer a few more years as a libertine and eternity in hell.
Of course, but I always have thought that the Left is feminine minded, so it was obvious to me. But of course the blue pilled knighters of the contard movement were stuck in a positive feed back loop that rewarded them for "logic and reason." Yep
On the subject of cucks and churchians, SOBL/28 Sherman put it well in his fictitious dialogue:
"Yes, totalitarianism came to America wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross, except it was the Left's totalitarian communist system and the idiots waving the flag and carrying the cross distracted us from seeing it and shouting us down as bad Christians for objecting to it."
(http://28sherman.blogspot.com/2016/08/drive-time-with-erick-erickson.html)
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A similar "libertarian to alt-right" article would be interesting. That appears to be the major political shift in the last decade.
The religious will have to give up their puritan brainwashing implanted by the Jews & traitorous Vatican, & give their sons the weapons of war & mass destruction that is Game & PUA & The Red Pill. As well as a good dose of MGTOW, to warn them of how useless & dangerous women are to the average man.
Yes. There is truth in all of these.
A hedonist lifestyle may lead some to Christ, but that doesn't mean that it is the only way there or that it should be intentionally pursued by everyone. Something that has the right end result is not necessarily the best way to get there.
Trust in God's way or you will face ruin. The saved souls of men are worth more one by one than all of Western Civilization. The Dark Ages are nothing compared to an eternity in hell.
Just because salvation came to the West once does not mean it will happen that way again. God may stretch out his restraining hand and hold us back from the consequences of our choices, and He may revive the West and make it flourish again, or he may not.
here are plenty of supplicating beta-boys and mewling Churchians in the Alt-Right who reject Game, so we still have work to do.
Really? The Trump campaign has proven a surprisingly effective oven cleaner for that type.
A hedonist lifestyle may lead some to Christ, but that doesn't mean that it is the only way there or that it should be intentionally pursued by everyone. Something that has the right end result is not necessarily the best way to get there.
No one said it was the only way or it should be pursued.
But we should take heed that the people it is easy to look down upon will enter the kingdom of God before we do - the first shall be last, and last shall be first.
Jesus said to them, "Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you. For John came to you to show you the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him, but the tax collectors and the prostitutes did. And even after you saw this, you did not repent and believe him.
All must repent and believe. Roosh is heading there, and we ought take care that we do no less.
"Following that path leads a man to philosophy, and eventually, if he continues to walk upon it, to the Way, the Truth, and the Life."
Yea, yea. ^THIS. I definitely was pursuing truth in my mid-teens since I was 16 and found this blog online. After learning from it and other masculine blogs on the "manosphere" they ultimately helped "propel" me back into the Origin of my Faith which is in CHRIST. Kudos to the good work of the men (and some women) on the manosphere. Amen.
"It's all related. It's all various aspects of one grand deception. So, it's not a mere coincidence that "breaking the chains, winning the games, and saving Western Civilization" has been the tagline of this blog from the beginning."
Yup. Got it. It's all connected. Amen.
~ Bro. Jed
@SirHamster
"All must repent and believe. Roosh is heading there, and we ought take care that we do no less."
Yeah, I understand where you're coming from... For Mr. Roosh, I've tried to witness Christ to him, but he seems "on the fence" like he doesn't really want to "believe" or "obey" the Faith in Christ... Kinda like "one leg in the world" and "one leg in Christ" but from what I can discern (only the Lord Jesus Christ knows for sure) Mr. Roosh as it stands is not currently a true "born again believer" or Christian yet.
Like he's "leading on" people with his spiritual interest in the Word of God (King James Version Holy Bible [KJV]) but not really wanting to truly "believe Jesus" is the GOD and then make steps to walk in OBEDIENCE as a Christian; such as stop "fornicating" or "banging women".
Mr. Roosh has to eventually make up his mind whether he wants to turn to Christ and then *live in Christ* and not go after his fleshly lusts of the world like "fornication".
He's perhaps a "work in progress" so we ought to keep Mr. Roosh and people like him in prayer constantly. Amen.
~ Sincerely,
Bro. Jed
@Jed Mask
Acts 19:19 A number who had practiced sorcery brought their scrolls together and burned them publicly. When they calculated the value of the scrolls, the total came to fifty thousand drachmas.
For Roosh to repent, he would have to do the modern equivalent of burning every book he authored but his latest. Even the rich young ruler wouldn't sell his stuff to the poor and follow Christ.
There is a trap in that side of the red-pill. The first is that it invites living a dissolute life the Prodigal Son would envy without the crash. If the Prodigal Son could get whores for free? It is hard to give up immediate pleasure. The second is the damage from the STDs and the rest. If men are rendered infectious or sterile, they can repent, but will never be able to sire a family. Nor will women with scarred wombs be able to bear a child. Permanent sterility.
Even after taking the red-pill, if one decides to follow the dyscivic path, even if they later repent, it does not mean that things can be repaired to the point they can have civilizational families.
@ Jed ~ I am certain Mr. Roosh would be very grateful if only he understood that you are trying to witness Christ to him and save his soul from the eternal fire of Hell. Keep trying, brother. Hallelujah! Can we get an Amen?
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All I can say is the biggest possible "thank you" to the men brave enough to relentlessly follow truth to wherever it leads, by whatever path they forge for themselves. Vox, and Roosh, and Molyneux, and Cernovich, and others have my admiration and gratitude for this.
I came to Christ through hedonism. Despite the heavy drugs that I was doing and the Dark Side that I was drawn to , my heart yearned for Truth. It led me on a quest for spiritual and philosophical knowledge that has never ceased to this day. I distinctly remember when I was a young college kid feeling like my professors were feeding me lines of shit. A family friend of my parents - who was quite an independent thinker - gave me the book None Dare Call It Treason along with a bunch of New American magazines. This was pre internet days mind you and receiving this was like discovering the holy grail of information. Lenses literally fell off my eyes. I devoured it and kept digging for more.
A failed marriage led me to dig for answers about why women act the way they do. That digging led me to Richard Glover which then led me to the manosphere.
Most readers here I'm sure have had similar journeys.
The journey for Truth is like following a stream to its source. Some may be content walking a ways before stopping and lounging at a deep pool or two. Some may even lounge at these pools forever -enjoying the great pleasure in what they found. Yet others have a drive and desire to get to the source from which this pleasure is derived. So they keep moving forward determined not to stop. Roosh appears to be one of these individuals.
A sad commentary on the state of affairs for men dating in the current year
This sort of thing puts into perspective the MGTOW movement.
To me, the value of Game rests in the confidence to embrace manhood in a time of misandry.
The timing is good; we men will need every iota of masculinity we can muster once the phase change arrives. Nature (or God) offers coherence if we look for it.
How is a guy who writes books about sex tourism helping Western Civilization? Picking up sluts in bars won't help us reclaim our civilization.
I'd like to read a succinct list of bullet points that to describe this evolution. Something along the lines of:
social proof > negs > shit tests > HBD > wage gap > divorce rape > spoon-fed interracial relationship acceptance > normalizing of gay marriage > feminism > SJWs > leftism > censorship > ethics in journalism > censorship > backlash > masculinity > the Trumpening > Christianity > Truth
I know that's pretty much the basic progression but better communicators, such as Vox, could explain this more fluidly and convincingly.
Vox, I'm not suggesting ideas, as per a recent article here, just throwing it out there because it's an interesting phenomena that will be studied in the not so distant future.
The Trump campaign has proven a surprisingly effective oven cleaner for that type.
True. But these things work both ways, so we should expect some people to go: Support Republicans --> Support Republican Nominee --> Wonder Who Their Fellow Trump Supporters Are --> Discover Alt-Right --> Discover Manosphere --> Get Redpilled. If the Alt-Right loses some white knights and uncucks some normies, it's a fair trade.
It is a fact of sociobiology that there are two kinds of status, prestige and dominance. "Game" can be interpreted as men trained to acquire prestige status notice it is not working with women e.g. being a good ally of the local LGBTQ movement gets no pussy, and they work on acquiring dominance status instead.
Conveniently, todays politics are precisely about these two ladders clashing. Prestige is left, dominance is right. When the left says oppression is bad and you all are a bunch of fascists they are basically condemning dominant relations. Look at this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_dominance_orientation does it need to be spelled out in more detail that the essence of the left is that dominance is bad?
This is why it happens.
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