Saturday, November 9, 2013

Hunting for anger

Rollo observes that the androsphere is keeping its collective cool:
If the “postponement” of the ABC 20/20 manosphere “exposé” has taught us anything it’s that the writers seeking to cast light on the manosphere are looking for crazy. They need crazy because it’s the only thing they know how, or have the patience, to confront in as minimal an effort as it takes to type a few paragraphs dismissing it as misogyny.

Writers (vichy male writers) like R. Tod Kelly are also lazy. They see an opportunity for outrage and that sells advertising. They wanted Stormfront and what they got was a global consortium of rational, well reasoned men with jobs, families and intelligence, men from all walks of life, all ethnicities, and socioeconomic backgrounds expressing ideas that don’t fit into an acculturation of feminine primacy.

If you read Matt Forney’s 20/20 interview post you’ll see the desperation for crazy in their producer’s attempts to provoke him to become what they think he should be – a frothing, angry, hate-fueled misogynist. That would make it easy for them, they know how to sell crazy. The copy gets approved, the crazies get marginalized and we move on to the next Mabeline commercial.
He's absolutely correct. The media has neither the ability nor the time to engage in rational dialectic, so cheap appeals to rhetoric are all they can manage. And one of the easiest ways to disqualify an opponent in a rhetorical manner is to portray them as out-group.

This is why the writers and producers he mentions were trying to find some wild-eyed angry men they could hold up as examples of the androsphere's craziness, and if they couldn't find them, they were perfectly willing to try manufacturing them.

However, we're fortunate that from Roosh and Roissy down to the smallest blog, the androsphere consists of men who are much practiced in maintaining their frame. In fact, one could argue that there is not a worse group to attempt to rhetorically dismantle, because by definition, the Game bloggers are adept at dealing with the grand rhetorical arsenal wielded by women.

And it's not as if maintaining frame gets any harder when dealing with someone with whom you have absolutely no desire to have sex. All the same, be cautious whenever dealing with the media. They ALWAYS try to sound like your best friends during the phase they call "the get". And once you're on the hook and the recording devices are started, they switch into full prosecutorial mode.

It's not a problem so long as you are prepared for it. Just remember, no one, NO ONE, interesting in covering these subjects in the media is on your side. Be cool, be prepared, and above all, maintain frame.

This doesn't mean that a man's anger is not legitimate or justified. It only means that it is unwise and counterproductive to display it for the public, because it is a rhetorical weakness.

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Unknown said...

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ANSWERS said...

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I am mary from Brazil,i don't know how to say this to the world.my husband who had left me for the past 2years is back to me.all this happened with the help of Dr. okoro a powerful spell caster.For that 2years my husband left me,i was not myself anymore i felt like this life has come to an end with my thoughts.all this happened to me because i loved him(my husband)so much and would do anything just to have him back.everything i did to bring him back wouldn't work it was like each time i try to have him back the farther he goes from me.i was hopeless and helpless.one day i saw a testimony from Ruth says "how the great Dr. okoro brought back her ex lover". i didn't believe her at that time.but as time went on i kept on seeing more testimonies about Dr. okoro and i said to myself with faith,it will be of the past if i contact this man. I contacted the great Dr. okoro.on his email okorospell@gmail.com i explained myself to him,what said to me was so amazed to the extent i was very happy even when my ex hadn't come back,this was what he said to me"he doesn't collect fund,what he needs is giving testimonies like this and giving little to buy items for casting the spell,then i did accordingly to what he asked me to do behold everybody i can't believe now my ex is with me after all that happened between me and him because i thought he would call me his sweet names again,truly when he left me i had many things in my mind negatively that i will murder myself if the great Dr.okoro can not help me,which he did,why am i saying all this is because i thought he wasn't real and he can't bring my lover back to me.because then i didn't believe is true bringing one's love back on the internet.what surprises me to this time is,in not more than 3 days after casting the spell my husband who sweated with his life that he will never come back to me again,came back not only that,kneeling down begging me he shouldn't have left me at frost.And till now we've not had any miss-understanding again because we now other.even before my husband left,we had little coping in the family because no too much fund but,when dr okoro brought him back everything changed and now we are building our other house as am talking now,my two daughters are now in school that they weren't before.because we now live well.All i want to say is,a big thanks and if there's another word bigger than that i should have said it to his hearing but nevertheless,great thanks to "THE Dr.okoro! for the help he rendered me.If you need help in your Marriage,relationship and even he told me he solves any problem so here is,his email Address,okorospell@gmail.com so contact him and see
Are you passing through any of these problems,

ANSWERS said...

Hello I am AKPAMU,I am out here to spreed this good news to the entire world on how I got my ex lover back.I was going crazy when my love left me for another girl last month, But when i meet a friend that introduce me to DR SHAKES SPEAR the great messenger to the oracle that he serve,I narrated my problem to DR SHAKES SPEAR about how my ex love left me and also how i needed to get a job in a very big company.He only said to me that i have come to the right place were i will be getting my heart desire without any side effect.He told me what i need to do,After it has been done,In the next 2 days,My love called me on the phone and was saying sorry for living me before now and also in the next one week after my love called me to be pleading for forgiveness,I was called for interview in my desired company were i needed to work as the managing director..I am so happy and overwhelmed that i have to tell this to the entire world to contact DR SHAKES SPEAR at the following email address and get all your problem solve.. No problem is too big for him to solve.. Contact him direct on: shakesspear23@yahoo.com OR shakesspear23@gmail.com and get your problems solve like me….. ONCE AGAIN HIS EMAIL ADDRESS IS: shakesspear23@yahoo.com OR shakesspear23@gmail.com

Anonymous said...


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My name is Max Jazine, from Canada USA. I never believed in love spells or magic until I met this spell caster once when I went to see my friend in Indian this year on a business summit. I meant a man who’s name is Shakes Spear he is really powerful and could help cast spells to bring back one’s gone, lost, misbehaving lover and magic money spell or spell for a good job or luck spell .I’m now happy & a living testimony cos the man i had wanted to marry left me 3weeks before our wedding and my life was upside down cos our relationship has been on for 3years. I really loved him, but his mother was against us and he had no good paying job. So when i met this spell caster, i told him what happened and explained the situation of things to him. At first i was undecided,skeptical and doubtful, but i just gave it a try. And in 7 days when i returned to Canada, my boyfriend (now husband) called me by himself and came to me apologizing that everything had been settled with his mom and family and he got a new job interview so we should get married. I didn’t believe it cos the spell caster only asked for my name and my boyfriends name and all i wanted him to do. Well we are happily married now and we are expecting our little kid, and my husband also got the new job and our lives became much better. His email is:shakesspear23@yahoo.com OR shakesspear23@gmail.com. ONCE AGAIN HIS EMAIL ADDRESS IS: shakesspear23@yahoo.com OR shakesspear23@gmail.com ... CONTACT HIM TODAY FOR YOUR HELP...

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