A sexually-frustrated husband compiled a spreadsheet charting a whole month’s worth of his wife’s excuses for refusing to have sex with him, including “I might be getting sick” and “I still don’t feel 100%”.Thereby proving that most people are idiots. The first thing is that this spreadsheet didn't come out of the blue. It is almost surely a quintessential male response to a very typical female tactic: the demand for proof. Women often try to put men in a false "heads I win, tails you lose" position, in which they demand proof of the assertion, but if called on this demand, then try to argue that the anticipation of the need for proof somehow disqualifies its relevance. That is exactly what the wife is attempting to do here. She's trying to use that the fact he made the spreadsheet and sent it to her on the road to retroactively justify her previous actions.
For a whole month the amorous husband jotted down every response from his other half when he asked her for intimacy, which elicited replies such as “I feel gross” and “I’m watching the show”, which he claims was a re-run of a Friends episode. The unnamed man then collated the information and put it into an excel document before emailing it to his wife as she arrived at an airport ahead of a 10-day business trip.
Excuses also include "I'm exhausted", "I need a shower" (didn't shower until next morning), "I'm trying to watch the movie" (fell asleep 15 min later) along with a few cases of not feeling too well and a number of ‘non-verbals’.
Shocked at the email, the anonymous lady tried to get in touch with her husband but found he had cut contact with her.In the end, she decided to share her husband's endeavour with users of social networking site Reddit by uploading the spreadsheet.
She then wrote: "Yesterday morning, while in a taxi on the way to the airport, husband sends a message to my work email which is connected to my phone. He's never done this, we always communicate in person or by text. I open it up, and it's a sarcastic diatribe basically saying he won't miss me for the 10 days I'm gone. Attached is a spreadsheet of all the times he has tried to initiate sex since June 1st, with a column for my "excuses", using verbatim quotes of why I didn't feel like having sex at that very moment."
The spreadsheet, which has since been deleted, quickly went viral with people taking both sides in the debate. Most people criticised the husband's "immaturity" and said he should have gone about it in a different way.
Needless to say, women who exhibit this basic inability (or refusal) to grasp cause-and-effect aren't often taken seriously. Think twice before you resort to such rhetoric; even if it works, you're making yourself look like a moron.
Although apparently there are those foolish enough to buy her "tails you lose" tactic, because they are using her very "immature" language to describe her husband. But there is nothing immature about what the man is doing. It's idiotic to claim, as many have, that he should "talk to her." He's obviously been talking to her already, the spreadsheet is filled with verbatim quotes from the woman. What he's doing is calling her on her bullshit, which makes many men and women uncomfortable. After all, what will happen if women start being held accountable for their actions? We can't have that, can we? Society will implode overnight!
The woman's response, and the furious response of other women, to the husband's action demonstrate how effective it is. Remember, women always communicate strategically when speaking in general terms about sex and love; what they say can never be taken at face value but must be interpreted properly. This is clearly the first time in months that the woman has paid even the SLIGHTEST attention to what the guy thinks; it's genuinely amusing to see the various women claiming that the combination of the spreadsheet and radio silence will have a counterproductive effect when she's already a) sexually rejecting him 88.89 percent of the time and b) has left him at home while she hits the road.
The fact is that she's feeling incredibly humiliated and defensive. And since in women, defensive crouches are followed by instinctively sexual responses, if he maintains his frame, the chances are that she'll return from her trip more sexually willing than before. (Personally, I doubt he will, he'll probably contact her too soon, apologize profusely, buy her flowers, and they'll be back to their old routine within a week.) But what he has inadvertently done is to introduce Mortification Game to a worldwide audience, Mortification Game being a subset of Dread Game.
Dread Game isn't for healthy relationships, but it can temporarily improve unhealthy ones and buy them time to fix things. This spreadsheet isn't indicative of immaturity, but rather desperation combined with a desire to save his marriage while honoring his wedding vows. It would be much more effective for him to have simply gone radio silent and had sex with other women while she's gone; the sexually hypercompetitive nature of women would likely have her sensing his subsequent indifference to her deprivation upon her return. But he chose not to do that, instead he plunged once more into the gap to try to salvage what looks like a fairly hopeless cause.
The beleaguered husband doesn't deserve scorn or criticism, but the sort of sympathy one spares for the underdog. As for the wife, well, any woman who repeatedly turns down her husband because watching television repeats is more of a priority merits all the mortification and marital difficulties she subsequently experiences. I don't know if there are any relevant studies on the subject, but I hypothesize there is a very high correlation between the hours of television a wife watches and the amount of Internet porn that a married man consumes. Someone close to her needs to inform her that this isn't a game, posturing and playing the victim is not going to work here, and she needs to take responsibility for her failures as a woman and as a wife immediately or her marriage will be over.
And, by the way, for men and women alike, keep in mind that if someone ever throws something like that spreadsheet in your face, you have quite literally asked for it. Every time someone brings up a concern to you and you dismiss it for lack of proof, you set the stage for the person preparing a quasi-legal brief against you. Never resort to the idiotic rhetoric of claiming that unless the other person can prove it, it never happens, because that is ignoring the obvious logic that SOMETHING upset the other person enough to cause them to bring up the subject with you.

56 comments:
"Women often try to put men in a false "heads I win, tails you lose" position, in which they demand proof of the assertion, but if called on this demand, then try to argue that the anticipation of the need for proof somehow disqualifies its relevance. That is exactly what the wife is attempting to do here."
That's one of the more infuriating thing about women. Logic? Facts? History?
Nope. Ain't nobody got time for dat!
And since, as we know, that in women, defensive crouches are followed by instinctively sexual responses, if he maintains his frame, the chances are that she'll return from the trip more turned on by him than ever before.
Yep. If (as you say, a big "if") he could maintain zero contact while she's gone, especially not answering the phone if she starts calling late in the evening or night, he could get the best bang ever when she gets back. Ten days is a long time for her hamster to run wild thinking about what he might be doing now that he's this fed up.
One thing I noticed: he wasn't even asking for sex every day. Sometimes he'd go a few days without bothering. So it's not like he was badgering her, as some would surely assume. Judging by this, he'd probably be happy with 2-3 times a week, and she's put him on a diet of twice a month. That's brutal and dehumanizing, and I'm not exaggerating. Being rejected for sex over and over because she "feels gross" (which translates to "thinking about sex with you makes me feel gross") or would rather watch TV is dehumanizing. It's treating him like less than a man, less than a human being with needs and emotions of his own.
From the Reddit comments:
Stop calling him and focus on your work as best as you can.
The whole point of this message was to make you panic and cause you distress so you would be grovelling to work it out when you got home and do whatever he wants. Don't cave into that feeling.
Send him a short but sweet e-mail saying that if he was unhappy with your sex life you would've appreciated an honest discussion, not a Pivot Table of your sexual failures, and that his refusal to be in contact with you is cruel and you won't tolerate it.
Then tell him that if he's interested in keeping this marriage after his abysmal behavior, he will enroll in couple's counseling with you. And if he doesn't respond and refuses counseling, your next trip should be to a lawyer's office.
Vox, you saying that Dread Game doesn't belong in a healthy relationship once again makes me think you might actually be sane.
I'd still love to see you discuss what you see as the intersection of a Christian worldview and the Game community. Dalrock doesn't seem to really hit the issue the way I suspect that you would.
Oh, but finish your next Selenoth novel first.
@JLT
That is actually great advice if her goal is to break his frame and reassert her dominance. Then again, women can't credibly threaten divorce. If the word leaves her lips you can be assured she has already talked to an attorney and its over. All she is doing at that point is being honorable and not blindsiding you with showing up to a house with changed locks and your accounts frozen with a process server there to greet you.
I remember when my wife and I was dating, she had a planned trip to Las Vegas with her work. I tried texting at night when I got off work, but didn't get any response the first few nights. So I let it be and started getting drunk at the local bar with my buddies after work the rest of the week. She eventually called and heard the loud music in the background and the giggling of the barfly on my lap. After that, she bugged me to death while on her trip. I still wonder what she did on those nights she wouldn't respond; but she wonders if I rolled in the hay with ol' Mary Jane rotten crotch from the bar, too. Now she has no ammo to fight with in the argument.
From the Reddit comments:
The whole point of this message was to make you panic and cause you distress so you would be grovelling to work it out when you got home and do whatever he wants. Don't cave into that feeling.
Never let it be said that women don't understand this stuff. It may not always be conscious, but they know exactly what it means when a man takes a stand and stops playing their games. They instantly recognize any threat to their power -- or the power of Team Woman perhaps even more so. They also know exactly what their weaknesses are, hence the attempts to bolster her resolve so she won't cave in and give up any of her control due to hamsterbating for 10 days. This just proves how effective radio silence is; and that when you're wondering whether you should contact a woman or not, the answer is no.
This is pretty funny. A spreadsheet is so beta/gamma, but he really can't be blamed for it. Instead he should have sought sex outside of the marriage, a move justified by his wife's behaviour. Mistresses exist for a reason.
Three times over a two month period would be an improvement for most marriages. Conversely, these same wives probably put out 3 times a week when they were girlfriends.
And double that for blowjobs.
@JLT
as usual girls help each other with the advice to end every relationship instead of fixing it. & that girl on reddit ignores the evidence that the existence of the spreadsheet is the result of an honest discussion. this is why you should never seek relationship advice from a girl. whether you are a man or a girl, their advice will always be the quickest way to end a relationship.
Why does no one suggest that she try to empathize with her husband, realize he desires sex and is obviously hurt over the constant rejection? I'm not defending this woman, it's just that so many women no longer even know these things. Try explaining to women that men desire sex, that they need respect to feel love, and they'll look at you like you're an alien from another planet.
As to mortification, this was a somewhat private email between a husband and wife. She's the one who went and made it public.
She is pretty much setting up the dissolution of her marriage. She is evidently asking for it by dumping her problems in the Internet. Other women like my ex-first-wife did it by gossiping our marital problems to her girlfriend. Some friend. They merely encouraged her to break-up.
The longer she remains on her business trip, the risk is that she won't need him. I'm not worried about him, but if he is smart, maybe he should bail.
"Thereby proving that most people are idiots"
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After I read the last sentence of that quote, I literally thought the exact same thing.
GG:
I wasn’t going to say anything on this but I can’t let this go.
The mortification isn’t a result of the wife’s self-publishing her husband’s spreadsheet and email. She’s mortified because husband confronted her directly, kept score and called her out.
She’s mortified because her husband presented her not just with complaints, but with recordkeeping. He gave her documentary evidence of her wrongs against him, and used her own words to do so.
She’s mortified because the jig is up and he’s on to her. He’s stopped playing her game, and she can’t do this to him anymore.
Okay de ti, so obviously I am outlier, but what hubby did just strikes me as kind of sweet and charming. I wouldn't feel "mortified" by such a thing at all, I'd feel like he cared or something.
Classic case of bad follow through. Mild Insecurity Game would have worked would have worked for most of these excuses. But he's got bigger problems than a temporary dry spell.
His wife has just plain lost interest in him. I suspect Vox is correct and that this is really just a Beta cri de coeur. Though he may have started reading Athol Kay's early stuff, in which case. I hope he can figure out when to stop reading him.
https://uk.lifestyle.yahoo.com/husband-creates-sex-rejection-spreadsheet--her--excuses--translated-114041117.html
... and obviously, rationalization runs amok, he's the guilty one for "not understanding what she really meant", and she's absolved from any responsibility.
Well, yeah. All relationship and advice columns are written from the female point of view, either by women or by feminized men. The male point of view has no place in the mainstream; hence the manosphere.
unhappy with your sex life you would've appreciated an honest discussion
Only a dishonest person would say such a thing.
I can't imagine a more honeststatement than, "I'm not getting enough sex". The fact that he has to document that fact for his wife is her failing not his. Husbands ask for sex because she isn't taking care of that need on her own without the request being made. The "bad" person is the one NOT taking care of their mates basic human need. The very fact that he had to ask, sometimes for days at a time for sex is PROOF she is a bad wife.
Getting the spreadsheet before she went out of town is the equivalent to that "If your presence adds no value than your absence will make no difference" quote from awhile back.
Interesting dynamics here. Wife leaves her husband for two weeks without affirming the relationship, he uses a spreadsheet in such a way that it's non-searchable. In other words, he doesn't know how to use Excel well, but she does. I would wonder whether she has long since ceased to respect him because she's the one carrying the fiscal weight of the marriage. Had a brother-in-law who chose career over marriage, too....or at least we thought so until he came out.
She is pretty much setting up the dissolution of her marriage. She is evidently asking for it by dumping her problems in the Internet. Other women like my ex-first-wife did it by gossiping our marital problems to her girlfriend. Some friend. They merely encouraged her to break-up.
That's why she's doing it. She's already decided to divorce him, but she wants to make sure she won't look like bad person when the story comes up after the divorce. So it's kind of a trial balloon - "If I explain it like this, do other women think it was wrong of me to divorce him?"
And she's going to use the speadsheet as a moral justification to cheat on him.
I get the "I feel gross" and "I need a shower" bullshit all the time.
Take it from a 50-something married guy - until I finally took up with a mistress, months had turned into years. I think most married guys over 40 (at least those married to an American woman) are slightly mad from sexual deprivation. I think that American wives no longer see tending to their husband's sexual needs as their responsibility.
Heh to all those commenters criticising his openness, honesty and bluntness (With evidence) of bringing forward their relationship issues to her, I wonder how they would react if this was flipped.
Imagine it, her keeping a list of all the times she wanted to have a conversation with him, and he wouldn't reciprocate, especially when she needed to blab on about her friend's gossip, distant family's mundane activities, shopping or what her co-worker had said that day etc. Noting down all the instances of "I'm busy", "Not right now", or "Christ woman I've just this minute got in from a long day of work", or even more amusing, "Shut up, I'm watching football". People would be tearing him to shreds for ignoring her needs, not interacting with her as a hustband should and praising her for coming forward with this, rather than "suffering in silence".
Also to the person criticising his use of Excel and justifying his ability to provide based on that...really? I appreciate good I.T skills but come on now, not every high paying job requires good knowledge of Excel, especially manual ones. Heck I hold a Microsoft Office Specialist qualification and some secretaries would outmatch me in the day to day use of it.
"I get the "I feel gross" and "I need a shower" bullshit all the time."
Which means the THOUGHT of it makes them feel gross and need a shower. (not a dig at you). It's terrible these women would stay in a marriage and lead someone on while feeling like this, and making excuses about it, blergh.
It would be much more effective for him to have simply gone radio silent and had sex with other women while she's gone; the sexually hypercompetitive nature of women would likely have her sensing his subsequent indifference to her deprivation upon her return.
I assume you mean this exactly as stated, that it would be effective, but that you don't suggest a married man go out and have sex with women on the side. Can you confirm this?
From the point of view of effective meets morality, just plain radio silence would be a good course. Just stop asking, and let her hamster wonder why the sudden change.
My husband's ex-wife was like that for most of their 30 year marriage. If she had spent 20 minutes once or twice a week too at least maintain the illusion she was in it for more than the paycheck she could have continued to pillage his earnings well into old age. Catching flies with honey works far better than petty power plays and mind games any day. I don't really understand how these women are willing to charge into divorce court rather than assume the position once or twice a week.
My wife always says yes. Reading all of this makes me really feel guilty because I get irritated because she disappears into the bathroom for a minute or so before the action commences. My earlier lovely was also always willing. It never occurred to me that all this was going (or not going) on in other folks bedrooms. Am I an outlier? Good Lord, talk about "quiet desperation"! By the way, I'm not an alpha by any means. Maybe a sigma marching to my own beat -- which will include sex if the lovely wants to march with me.
OK, seriously... what is WITH women? I know of at least one married woman and she told me that she cannot stand getting sweaty during sex and has to shower right after. And everything is "gross". Seriously, WTF?
I would go nuts with a woman like that.
I'm just wondering how the hell a woman gets that mentality in the first place.
If my wife ever said "I need to take a shower" and didn't immediately go take one, I'd pick her up and deposit her there, clothes and all. Turn on the shower, squirt her all over with shower gel and start washing her. Outside of her clothes. Not let her out until she stripped. Then wash her all over and then pick her up - still wet - and throw her on the bed and have my way with her.
If she bitched overmuch in any of the process, I'd finish ASAP and not care if she got hers. Then roll over and go to sleep.
Why is this "mortification game"? He sent it to her; she was the one who posted it on teh interwebz. Mortification game would have been posting the spreadsheet on Facebook and tagging her and her friends in it. Or somehow putting it out on his accord, not hers. This was beta-convincing-game, but could have been turned into mortification game with the aforementioned change in delivery.
I can't say that I would get married again if I could do it all over again. Hindsight is a bitch.
My wife always says yes
Your libido is less than hers, you don't have children, or she is trying to get pregnant. A married woman with children has zero consequences to saying no. So even women that genuinely think they should (and want to) meet their husbands needs will occasionally say no.
As to you being lucky. The bar is so low in the US that just finding a woman that won't use the libido gap as a weapon is a chore, and the average American male can count it a win if she is willing starfish for him a couple times a week, with some head twice a year. You get more than that and you can put yourself in the top 20% of marriages.
If she bitched overmuch in any of the process, I'd finish ASAP and not care if she got hers. Then roll over and go to sleep.
I don't like to sleep on overly messy beds. Then again we have a steam shower that fits two people so, I would just say "great, I will join you"
Why is this "mortification game"?
Because he went radio silent when she started texting/calling him about it. She then posted it to the interwebz as part of her hamsterbate process.
@Michael Maier
If my wife ever said "I need to take a shower" and didn't immediately go take one, I'd pick her up and deposit her there, clothes and all. Turn on the shower, squirt her all over with shower gel and start washing her. Outside of her clothes. Not let her out until she stripped. Then wash her all over and then pick her up - still wet - and throw her on the bed and have my way with her.
You should be ashamed of yourself for writing such a thing. Do you know how many women regularly read Vox?
Do you know how many married women will read that, and try this out for themselves, only to be sadly disappointed when their husbands don't react as hoped?
I assume you mean this exactly as stated, that it would be effective, but that you don't suggest a married man go out and have sex with women on the side.
I always mean what I write exactly as stated. If I were suggesting that, I would have clearly stated that.
It's actually an interesting moral question: which is to be preferred, divorce or an immoral act that reduces the chances of divorce. I suspect the conventional Churchian answer would be: act in such a way that encourages the other party to file divorce without engaging in immoral behavior. Then you're free and clear and it's not your fault.
Of course, this tends to forget that the Bible says post-divorce sex is adultery anyhow.
"Of course, this tends to forget that the Bible says post-divorce sex is adultery anyhow. "
For the WOMAN, anyway. I don't see where a man who puts his woman away or divorces her is sinning by taking another wife (an UN-married one, anyway.)
"which is to be preferred, divorce or an immoral act that reduces the chances of divorce."
Neither. That said, the permissibility so to speak of the "immoral act that reduces the chances of divorce" depends on what it is.
A man having an adulterous affair is a "worse" sin than the wife's deprivation. But a man's use of manipulation, deception, force and threats with Dread is preferable to the status quo and is permissible. So is husband's radio sllence while wife is away on business. So is husband's withdrawal and tighter control of money. If none of these things work, and wife is still withholding sex, in my view, divorce is permissible, because wife is not willing to live with husband in a peaceful way.
Compare this spreadsheet to a PUA's number of approaches-to-lay ratios, I'm thinking the PUA's have a better success rate.
The criticism is always one that Game is really a game of numbers and approaches – it would seem marriage is too, with a much lower protracted ROI.
That marriage was dead years before the spreadsheet. A woman who rejects you 88.89% of the time simply doesn't get wet with you. Being his wife, the other 11.11% are most likely pity fucks.
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rumpole wrote: **My wife always says yes. Reading all of this makes me really feel guilty because I get irritated because she disappears into the bathroom for a minute or so before the action commences.**
Rumpole, here's the deal. Being horny makes it hard for a man to pee. The opposite is often true of women. Sometimes sex (when it first starts) can make a woman really feel like she has to pee due to a combination of horniness and physical pressure on the bladder. Your wife may be emptying her bladder before the action commences so that she can give you her full attention. Be a man and be flattered that she wants to give you her full attention, rather than acting like an immature 14 year old who waves a bible around and insists that he is entitled to sex upon instantaneous demand, rather than a reasonable time later, be it 2 minutes to pee or 2 weeks because the woman just gave birth.
This whole story is uncomfortably familiar to me. I blogged about it here. I too tracked my sex life in my marriage for a while, watching things slowly go down hill. Even when I changed myself for the better, things didn't really turn around, until I managed some social proof, then POOF, as they say in the LEGO movie: everything is awesome.
@ Ann Moron:
Because you're a woman, you have insights on female urinary and physiological reactions related to sex. Good for you. You possess genitals! Amazing! Congrats!
But to an uninformed male, it looks like female vanity that is wholly unneeded because we don't care about "touching up makeup" or whatever we males think a woman is doing in that "freshing up". I would guess, if asked, the typical male reaction would be: "Whatever... her crotch is going to get sweaty and smell a bit during vigourous sex anyway." Hunger being the best sauce, I never cared much if she disappeared for five minutes before the main event.
But this guy JUST SAID " Reading all of this makes me really feel guilty". But you're so utterly and pathetically desperate to cast dispersions on men that you don't even consider this dude didn't realize what was really going on. And directly AFTER he fully admitted it!
Putting a far nicer face on it than I'd prefer out of respect for our host: you're an uncharitable and obnoxious bitch. And you have serious issues.
But because you've actually (albeit 100% unintentionally, I'm sure) done a service for some of us males: Thank you.
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IS A TESTIMONY, I NEVER BELIEVED IN LOVE SPELLS UNTIL I MET THIS SPELL CASTER CALLED DR UNITY. HE IS REALLY POWERFUL AND COULD HELP CAST SPELLS TO BRING BACK ONE'S GONE,LOST,MISBEHAVING LOVER AND MAGIC MONEY SPELL OR SPELL FOR A GOOD JOB.I'M NOW HAPPY & A LIVING TESTIMONY COS THE WOMAN I HAD WANTED TO MARRY LEFT ME 3 WEEKS BEFORE OUR WEDDING AND MY LIFE WAS UPSIDE DOWN COS OUR RELATIONSHIP HAS BEEN ON FOR 3YEARS... I REALLY LOVED HER, BUT HER MOTHER WAS AGAINST US AND I HAD NO GOOD PAYING JOB. SO WHEN I MET THIS SPELL CASTER, I TOLD HIM WHAT HAPPENED AND EXPLAINED THE SITUATION OF THINGS TO HIM..AT FIRST I WAS UNDECIDED,SKEPTICAL AND DOUBTFUL, BUT I JUST GAVE IT A TRY. AND IN 48HOURS WHEN I WAS IN MY HOUSE IN USA,SHE CALLED ME BY HERSELF AND CAME TO ME, APOLOGIZING THAT EVERYTHING HAD BEEN SETTLED WITH HER MOM AND FAMILY AND SHE GOT A NEW JOB INTERVIEW SO WE SHOULD GET MARRIED..I DIDN'T BELIEVE IT COS THE SPELL CASTER ONLY ASKED FOR MY NAME AND MY GIRLFRIENDS NAME AND ALL I WANTED HIM TO DO... WELL WE ARE HAPPILY MARRIED NOW AND WE ARE EXPECTING OUR LITTLE KID,AND MY WIFE ALSO GOT THE NEW JOB AND OUR LIVES BECAME MUCH BETTER. IN CASE ANYONE NEEDS THE SPELL CASTER FOR SOME HELP, HIS EMAIL ADDRESS IS;unitylovetemple@gmail.com THANKS DR UNITY FOR YOUR GOOD WORK. ONCE AGAIN HIS EMAIL ADDRESS IS unitylovetemple@gmail.com
My name is Daria myers , am from usa. i want to use this opportunity to thank my great doctor who really made my life a pleasurable one today. This great woman pritest asha brought my husband back to me, i had three lovely kids for my husband, about four years ago i and my husband has been into one quarrel or the other until he finally left me for one lady. i felt my life was over and my kids thought they would never see their father again. i tried to be strong just for the kids but i could not control the pains that torments my heart, my heart was filled with sorrows and pains because i was really in love with my husband. Every day and night i think of him and always wish he would come back to me, until one day i met a good friend of mine that was also in a situation like me but her problem was her ex-boyfriend who she had an unwanted pregnancy for and he refused to take responsibility and dumped her. she told me that mine was a small case and that i should not worry about it at all, so i asked her what was the solution to my problems and she gave me this great man email address. i was doubting if this man was the solution, so i contacted this great woman and he told me what to do and i deed them all, he told me to wait for just two day and that my husband will come crawling on his kneels just for forgiveness so i faithfully deed what this great woman asked me to do and for sure after two days i heard a knock on the door, in a great surprise i saw him on his kneels and i was speechless, when he saw me, all he did was crying and asking me for forgiveness, from that day, all the pains and sorrows in my heart flew away,since then i and my husband and our lovely kids are happy.that's why i want to say a big thank you to pritest asha. This great woman made me to understand that there is no problem on earth that has no solution so please if you know that you have this same problem or any problem that is similar, i will advise you to come straight to this great man. you can email him at: (pritestashatemple@gmail.com)...
I want to thank Dr.Agbazara for his job in my family, this is man who left me and the kids for another woman without any good reasons, i was pain and confuse,till one day when i was browsing through the internet with my computer then i saw Dr.Agbazara contact, then i contaced him and he help me cast a reunion spell, since I then the situation has changed, everything is moving well, my husband who left me is now back to his family. reach DR.AGBAZARA TEMPLE via email if you have any relationship problem at:
agbazara@gmail.com
OR call him on +2348104102662
Am jessica from California.I want to use this medium to tell you
all about my spell caster.About two years ago I was having problems
with my husband and he left me for another lady.I did everything I could
to get my husband back all to no avail until last month when a friend
of mine introduced me to(hinduspiritualtemple@gmail.com )were I met a
great spell caster who gave me a spell with instructions on how to use
it.I did all I was told and two weeks later my husband came back home
begging me for forgiveness.I forgave him and today we are living
together again.You could be the next to tell your story why not try this
temple out?Contact them via this email:hinduspiritualtemple@gmail.com.
(1) If you want your ex back.
(2) if you always have bad dreams.
(3) You want to be promoted in your office.
(4) You want women/men to run after you.
(5) If you want a child.
(6) You want to be rich.
(7) You want to tie your husband/wife to be yours forever.
(8) If you need financial assistance.
(9) Herbal care
(10) If you can be able to satisfy your wife sex desire due to low erraction.
(11) if your menstruation refuse to come out the day it suppose or over flows.
(12) if your work refuse to pay your, people owing you?.
(13) solve a land issue and get it back.
(14) Did your family Denny you of your right?
(15) Let people obey my words and do my which.
(16) Do you have a low sperm count?
(17) Case solve E.T.C
free to contact him at hinduspiritualtemple@gmail.com, and tell him what you need to be salve
Hello i am Jacqueline Ashley ,from USA, I am out here to spreed this good news to the entire world on how i got my ex lover back.I was going crazy when my lover left me for another girl last month,But when i meet a friend that introduce me to Dr oku the great messenger to the oracle that he serve,I narrated my problem to Dr oku about how my ex lover left me and also how i needed to get a job in a very big company.He only said to me that i have come to the right place were i will be getting my heart desire without any side effect.He told me what i need to do,After it was been done,In the next 2 days,My lover called me on the phone and was saying sorry for living me before now and also in the next one week after my lover called me to be pleading for forgiveness,I was called for interview in my desired company were i needed to work as the managing director..I am so happy and overwhelmed that i have to tell this to the entire world to contact Dr oku at the following email address and get all your problem solve..No problem is too big for him to solve..Contact him direct on: okutemple@gmail.com. and get your problems solve like me..
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My husband left me for another woman and i have been seeking for love spell allover only to get scam of $2800 till someone refer me to mama Anita.who did what I called black magic now my husband is back with me and we are living better than before and my son junior..please do not get scam if you need real spell caster that is not a scam then contact her now on....(mamaanita.lovespellsolution@gmail.com).
Hello Everybody, My name is Mrs.Juliet Quin. I live in Canada and i am a happy woman today? and i told my self that any lender that rescue my family from our poor situation, i will refer any person that is looking for loan to him, he gave me happiness to me and my family, i was in need of a loan of $30,000.00 to start my life all over as i am a single mother with 3 kids I met this honest and GOD fearing man loan lender that help me with a loan of $30,000.00 Canada Dollar, he is a GOD fearing man, if you are in need of loan and you will pay back the loan please contact him tell him that is Mrs.Juliet Quin that refer you to him. Contact DR PURVA SHAREGISTRY via email: (urgentloan22@gmail.com)
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