I'm just curious who the men here find most attractive of the various female A Game of Thrones characters. I'm wondering if there might be any connection to socio-sexual rank.
Cersei Lannister
Daenerys Targaryen
Catelyn Stark
Sansa Stark
Margaery Tyrell
Lady Melisandre
Talisa Stark
Ygritte the Wilding
Brienne of Tarth
Gilly
Missandei
Ros the Prostitute
Shae the Prostitute
Or any of the various other characters. As for me, Myranda is easily my favorite.
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Daenerys Targaryen. Beta.
In general bang order:
Would do
Daenerys Targaryen
Margaery Tyrell
Lady Melisandre (not a fan of red heads, but the body is slammin)
Shae the Prostitute
Would do,with a lot of wine
Ygritte the Wilding
Sansa Stark (I just don't think she's all that pretty)
Cersei Lannister
Ros the Prostitute
Talisa Stark
Missandei
Would not do
Brienne of Tarth
Gilly
Catelyn Stark
Osha the Wilding. When she's cleaned up, she is hot; particularly with those smoking eyes!
For me, Margaery Tyrell is tops, followed closely by Ygritte. I've moved around a lot on the hierarchy -- I'm probably delta right now.
Is this about the character or the actress playing the character?
I quit watching after Season 2, so there's some I don't know or don't recall (which the latter probably says something about the status)
Major League Bang
1. Margaery Tyrell
2. Shae
3. Daenerys
4. Sansa
Minor League Bang
1. Harry Potter Wildling
2. Jon Snow's Wildling
3. Girl Robb Stark marries
4. Melisandre
Then... Cersei Lannister, if there was nothing else up for offer. I didn't see her in the show but looked her up after the Red Wedding, would bang Rosalyn. She's above the girl Robb married/died for.
Ygritte
By the way.... Maisie Williams turned 18 last month.
Just sayin'.
This is a bit of a no-brainer, I think. I'll be interested to see if any answers really vary all that much.
Me (in general order of oh-yeah-baby)
Sansa Stark (redheads = my kryptonite)
Lady Melisandre
Shae the Prostitute (great example of the not-pretty-but-sexy woman)
Daenerys Targaryen
Margaery Tyrell
Jourdan, ye of little faith. Don't you know that we're all afraid of strong, independent women and that Brienne is every bit a real women and deserving our love and respect and erections as young hot feminine princesses?
Ros the Prostitute, by far. Hellz yeah!
However, I would bang most of the others (except Catelyn, perhaps). Lady Melisandre is just about the only one apart from Ros who exudes genuine sexiness, but she's on the mature side. Shae the Prostitute is another one who got my attention.
Note the absence of blonde, blue-eyed women. Not many of those in Britain nowadays, perhaps? Or is there another reason for the absence?
Over the last few years I've noticed that women on film have become less spectacularly beautiful. Average-looking girls seem to predominate. I'm not sure if this is because more women are involved in film production and want to exclude attention-stealing competitors, or if the scenes female actors are often required to do increasingly attract average-looking girls who don't have much else going for them.
Oh yeah, Myranda is also rather bangable. That hot, tiny body...!
In order - Margery, Shae, Ygritte. The rest are average in my opinion.
That is based on looks alone. Have not found a personality I like yet.
OT: There's an actress from the series 'Peaky Blinders' who's simply gorgeous: Annabelle Wallis. Good Lord! Check her out.
The actresses or the characters as they are?
Eh, same answer for me either way: Ygritte the Wilding (what can I say, I was raised around farmgirls).
Of course Sansa Stark & Margaery Tyrell are just plain hot, but one needs a woman they know can take care of the land while you're away.
Jourdan speaks truth, Owen is a heretic. ;-)
(forget socio-sexual rank, I think we've got a redheads vs brunettes war brewing here)
Margery is tops for both looks and personality. Attractive, feminine, and practical without being a cold hearted bitch.
Sansa next. Though she gets annoying for her pouting, helplessness. (Stopped watching the series after season 3, so maybe thats changed, never really liked her in the books beyond pity)
Ygritte is the next most attractive, but I couldn't put up with her attitude. And her starting "lets you and him fight" with wildlings would shorten a mans life span.
Shae rounds it off. Just keep your crazy inlaws away from her.
The others I don't really find attractive enough to put up with.
My family has its share of redheads in it. It's probably why they don't ring my bell.
Melisandre is probably my favorite.
Margery would be good if the actress would stop smirking.
I'm low beta probably delta.
Hmm.... Owen, when is your next family reunion?
Ygritte is the next most attractive, but I couldn't put up with her attitude. And her starting "lets you and him fight" with wildlings would shorten a mans life span.
Duh, that's why you drag her off to your own little ranch in the middle of nowhere where you don't have to put up with anybody.
Haven't watched the show so I had to look them up. Talisa Stark, Ros, and Sansa are easily the hottest.
Doreah, although I think the chick who plays her has left the show. But then, I'm a sigma, so you know I have to pick one who's not on the list.
As for the list, Sansa Stark followed by Margery Tyrell and then Ygritte. Redheads are my kryptonite as well.
I have better things to do than put sexposition scenes into my mind.
However, 15 minutes of reading on the topic a couple of months ago convinced me that the best possible outcome for Westeros is a revolutionary movement that overthrows and kills every single member of every noble family. They're a bunch of bloodthirsty power-seekers who will only bring death and destruction upon those under their control.
Margery would be good if the actress would stop smirking.
If it helps, she apparently has some muscle issue that pulls her mouth that way. That doesn't change the expression, but it does help that she's not intentionally playing the smug smirk 24/7 for shits and grins.
Margery would be good if the actress would stop smirking.
If it helps, she apparently has some muscle issue that pulls her mouth that way. That doesn't change the expression, but it does help that she's not intentionally playing the smug smirk 24/7 for shits and grins.
Ros, Myranda, Tansy...
Gilly's character is very sweet and has a quiet strength and has good sense.
Gilly is like the only character I care about on the show any more. I'd like to see her and that Warden just run off and have a quiet little home and family together. That's about the only happy ending possible in the show any more.
I'd be interested in seeing what the Kappas liked best.
From my very cursory viewing:
Ros (statuesque redheads are a weakness)
Margaery (best combination of looks and
personality)
The rest all have some fatal flaw that I simply find too off putting. I'd love to add Danaerys and Sansa to the list (to say nothing of Melisandre and Ygritte!), but the book descriptions spoil them. I guess I prefer honest sluts and feminine women to silly, foolish girls, tomboys, and sorceresses.
Not to say I wouldn't make a pass at them for a one-off, mind you...
Also, my rankings are somewhat warped/incomplete, as I've read all the books, but only seen 3-4 episodes of the show
Are the women going to pick their favorite GoT men next? That could be instructive, game wise.
"Are the women going to pick their favorite GoT men next? That could be instructive, game wise."
Considering how violent the GoT world is, we could guess now. Who's the strongest, most violent, and powerful? They're not going to pick Jon Snow, nice guy though he may be, it'll probably be that huge guy with all the scars.
Ros the prostitute, no doubt
@ Nate W.
"Duh, that's why you drag her off to your own little ranch in the middle of nowhere where you don't have to put up with anybody."
Thats the only reason shes on the list. She strikes me the same way as a fiery irish woman would. Get her away from society for 10 months, put a baby in her arms instead of a spear, and let those fierce loyalty and work ethic transfer from the wildlings to you.
Jon snow was, indeed, an idiot.
"Redheads are my kryptonite as well. "
Yes. But they're in the danger zone on the hot-crazy matrix too.
For bangability ygritte, Margaery, daenarys.
For still being bangable but not too much attitude sansa, missandei.
I'm curious, what do the women who read this blog think of the Thronettes?
This is why I think there's a disconnect with the question.
The actress who plays Gilly is cute. Very cute.
Gilly the character (especially how they present her physically and mentally as mildly retarded) is almost unbangable.
Gilly in the books may be even more different. I don't know. Never read the books.
Missandei. May have more to do with my tastes then the character
well I take the back, the character's traits appeal to me as well. Guess I like women simple, and loyal
Lady the Direwolf. In a threesome with Sansa.
With Shae, Ros and Osha masturbating in the corner. And Tyrion watching through a glory hole.
Gilly in the books may be even more different. I don't know. Never read the books.
In the books, she was raised as one of her father's many concubines, she's pretty messed up in the head and always crying into the nice, fat boy's jelly rolls while she nurses Mance Rayder's child. I'm with another poster who said they'd like to see these two live happily ever after. They're the most normal couple in the whole story.
Not just most normal, Marissa (and yes, "other poster" was me), but at least on the show they seem to be the closest to decent, honest folk. Just salt of the earth types that pray for long summers, short winters, and don't care about the games the nobles play.
Lyanna Stark.
Hey, who am I second guess both Crown Prince Rhaegar and King Robert.?
She must have left Helen of Troy just standing.
Based solely on the hotness/attitude of the actress in the show:
1. Marei - (had to look her up) the redhead prostitute Ellaria chooses, also one of the girls for Podrick
2. Ygritte - her looks alone get her here
3. Mellisandre
4. Ellaria Sand - been hot for her since Rome, shes aging well but she doesnt have much time left
5. Sansa - shed be higher if she weren't so whiny all the time
What can I say? Italian men are known for their weakness for the redheaded Irish lasses...
Who was that chick Ramsey was banging before he married Sansa? She had a smoking hot body. Yeah, that one.
Cersei Lannister makes me want to reach for a whiskey.
4. Ellaria Sand - been hot for her since Rome, shes aging well but she doesnt have much time left
That slut sort of cheated on one of the best male characters in all of television. Unforgivable. But she is a good cast from how I imagined her character in the book.
I don't know all the characters, so I'll just list those I do.
Cersei Lannister: She's hot, would do... after slapping her around a bit.
Daenerys Targaryen: Actually... no. She comes across as a consummate career woman who isn't attracted to men.
Catelyn Stark: Too old.
Sansa Stark: Yes. She seems submissive, and the type of girl who looks like she wouldn't bother you too much if she was married to you.
Lady Melisandre: Yowza. Yes, certainly. Even if she's evil.
Ygritte the Wilding: Middling attractiveness, but seems adventurous. Maybe.
Brienne of Tarth: No way.
Shae the Prostitute: Cute, but comes off as too clingy.
I'm sorry gentlemen, no more posting. Bro. Longtail has *clearly* won this thread.
I haven't seen the show, so just going by a set of pictures: Myranda, Irri, and Ygritte. One of each.
I don't suppose that's very useful for analyzing socio-sexual rank, though, without knowing the characters. And the last two books were so bad I can't remember half of them.
Only two of us found Daenerys the hottest? By far. Lady Melisandre would be next, if she was 10 years younger. The rest are ok, I guess. Except the giantess.
I'm assuming this is based on looks alone. This list would be different if it also took into account personality.
Cersei Lannister -- In bad lighting, attractive. Aging with weird brow and strange mouth.
Daenerys Targaryen -- Poor hip to waist ratio. Barely any curve. Still attractive, however.
Catelyn Stark -- Old.
Sansa Stark -- She's gotten better as seasons pass. On par with Daenerys.
Margaery Tyrell -- Perpetual duckface, but on par with Daenerys.
Lady Melisandre -- Very attractive, but obviously aging. Better than Cercei.
Talisa Stark -- Passable. Plain faced. Lower than Daenerys and maybe a bit lower than Melisandre as well.
Ygritte the Wilding -- Horse faced. In bad lighting, perhaps.
Brienne of Tarth -- I'm not gay.
Gilly -- Blech.
Missandei -- No thanks.
Ros the Prostitute -- Not bad. At least attractive in good lighting.
Shae the Prostitute -- Slightly better than Ros.
Myranda -- I'm not particularly fond of girls with underbite. Better than most of the others, however.
If I had to choose between Sansa, Daenerys, and Margaery, I would choose them in that order (basically according to perceived age).
Heh. I was curious and just looked up the ages for Sansa, Daenerys and Margaery actresses. Their birth years are, respectively, 1996, 1986, and 1982. As usual, a 19 year old is greater than a 30 year old in terms of attractiveness. It's striking, and yet obvious, that I instinctively knew which was younger.
Ros in season 1, replaced by Ygritte later on.
Lena Headey (Cersei) left an quite an impression when I first saw her in the live version of Disney's Jungle Book, but that was 20 years ago and the Wall isn't just a place in Westeros
Sansa looks too much like my niece. Born around the same time, too.
Ygritte, naked, in a hot spring...
Of course it's not really the characters but the actresses. But I can setting does play a parts, so...
Ranked:
Talisa Stark
Margaery Tyrell
Melisandre
Shae
Ygritte
Missandei
Cersei isn't bad-looking for an older woman.
Doreah, Daenerys' handmaiden in Season 1, wasn't bad, either.
Probably Maergery Tyrell, even if she isn't objectively the best looking one.
Top 3, in order of physical attractiveness.
Daenerys Targaryen
Ros the Prostitute
Cersei Lannister
The Tyrell girl that marries the wimpy Lannister boy is good looking, and Sansa has gotten good looking too. The dragon girl... good looking, but sooo much attitude. And mental issues.
Why is Arya Stark not on the list...?
There is a genetic problem with Myranda for me. She is thin, no doubts there, but her hip bones stood out waaaay too high for the shape of her bottom. They were disproportional to her chest ratio too. Like she starved herself to be the thin Hollywood waif - which got her on GoT, so I am sure she would argue that it worked.
the best possible outcome for Westeros is a revolutionary movement that overthrows and kills every single member of every noble family
The French will lend you their guillotines.
Why is Arya Stark not on the list...?
Because 1) She's supposed to be around 11 years old in the show. 2) The actress is only 13 or 14 in season one, and just turned 18 this year. (Though admittedly the Sansa actor is only 19 this year, but at least she had a relatively mature body throughout the show.) Finally, the list has Brienne and Gilly on it. That's already enough physical ugly.
Plus, 3) Arya looks and acts like a boy.
@Peter Pan
16 is Legal age in most of the USA, bahah.
and in Game of Thrones, most women are either psychotic evil or just waiting to get killed. Arya would have neither problem.
"The French will lend you their guillotines."
The French were a unified state.
The French were a unified state
Yes. They were. Westeros is too, for the most part, and has been ever since the Targaryens apparently unified it with dragons.
ever since the Targaryens apparently unified it with dragons
Another reason Daenerys turns me off: she's like those weird girls who are hyper-attached to animals such as little dogs and horses.
The Noble in France were way too weak to stir up trouble like that. When I said "unified" I really meant "centralized". France was an absolutist country, while Westeros is a feudal realm.
Another vote for Margery here. She's very feminine yet still has an interesting allure about her. Her "power" is not off-putting to me, for whatever reason.
Curious to see the analysis, Vox.
I'm going to list the options for marriage, since the majority of them would be candidates if I was looking for only a One Night stand.
1. Sansa Stark
2. Talisa Maegyr (I'm assuming this is prior to their marriages)
Honorable Mentions:
Margaery Tyrell's public persona would probably actually be the first place (I hope I'd pick up on her personality enough to know to run before I made any sort of commitment; seriously I'm pretty sure she's a younger Cersei; why is everyone picking her?)
Catelyn Tully (the young unmarried version of her would probably have been a good choice; too old by the time of the series)
For reference I'm pretty sure I'm an Delat or Omega who's picked up some Alpha/Sigma tendencies since I was younger. I suspect a few years ago I would have went: Daenerys Targaryen, Ygritte the Wilding, Gilly, Shae the Prostitute (with Gilly being the only one I'd even consider Today)
Arya would have neither problem.
Plus if she learns that shapeshifting assassin trick, you'd STILL get all the hottest girls in GoT. XD
You couldn't trust half of the "Game of Thrones" women not to murder you in your sleep if the right opportunity presented itself. So I'd go with Ygritte for the safest choice. Yes, she's blunt, hot-tempered and violent, but those same traits make her terrible at feminine deceit -- when she wants to kill you, you'll see it coming a mile away. Subdue her properly as befits a wild child and she'll likely get turned on by the experience. And the make-up sex will be heard in every one of the seven kingdoms.
Whoops, meant to add this to my previous post.
You couldn't trust half of the "Game of Thrones" women not to murder you in your sleep if the right opportunity presented itself.
@Darwinian
Yeah, true. That's why my observations didn't take marriage into account, only "would I sleep with them". Especially in the case of the cougars (like Cersei and Melisandre).
For marriage, of the characters I listed above, only Sansa even remotely meets my standards.
"Would I be tempted to sleep with them", rather.
Talisa Stark hands down, though I think it's curious they didn't name her Jeyne like in the book. Daenerys' face is starting to look really weird, I think she's going to be a premature wall victim.
Sansa Stark
Margaery Tyrell
Margaery Tyrell
Margaery Tyrell
Looked up these two on Google Images, after other posters brought them up. Yes, I do remember them, I just didn't remember their names.
Talisa Stark: Yes. She is rather overly attached to her silly mission, but unlike Daenerys has still has kept some obviously feminine behavior.
Margaery Tyrrell: Sure, although her actress' famous skrillex is rather off-putting.
Myranda beats out Margaery by being younger. Margaery looks like the only classical beauty out of the bunch. The rest look above average at best. There is something strange about Sansa's face that I can't put my finger on.
Not a watcher of the series. I quit reading the book version of the series mid-way through book 3, when the plot started to get stupid and the nihilism underneath began to overwhelm it. That said, hot actresses are always a fun subject.
So hitting IMDB, and clicking on every actress who looked kinda hot in the thumbnail, I render the following judgements:
Lena/Cersei - formerly hot about 20 years ago and only if you don't mind the manjaw. right now, she's old news, just an older woman who doesn't look bad but doesn't look good, especially compared to her younger costars.
Emilia/Daenerys - very attractive, looks better with her natural dark brunette hair.
Sophie/Sansa - ick. Even with the photos with her hair down, she looks weird. Photos of her body show a typical skinny fatness that lots of women in UK seem to have. Sorry my red-headed fetishists, she does not make the cut.
Maisie/Arya - even if 18, she looks 12. And kinda like a midget. No bueno.
Gwendoline/Brienne - You have got to be kidding me. She looks like a dude in every photo Google pops up for me.
Natalie/Margaery - She looks fit, which I like, but there is something weird about her face. I don't like it, even before the stupid haricut.
Sibel/Shae - meh.
Nathalie/Missandei - cute, but not my thing. Heck of nice rack though.
Rose/Ygritte - here we go, a woman who looks feminine. Little bit of the man jaw showing, but her large eyes, long hair, head/body ratio and her slender but feminine form all come together quite nicely.
Carice/Melisandre - similar to Rose. Like this woman too for similar reasons. She has a smoldering look though that might edge her above Rose. Still pondering.
Hannah/Gilly - mouse face.
Natalia/Osha - looks like a trannie
Esmé/Ros - looks good for an older woman, but I'd place her in the hierarchy around Lena.
Amrita/Irri - She's cute, but not cute enough to beat Emilia, Rose or Carice.
Oona/Talisa - meh.
Roxanne/Doreah - ah, I'd like too, because she's got a nice body, and a cute face, but due to it's size compared to her body, the long face, high forehead, and mannish jaw she has a bit of the trannie look. So close. She'd be a runner up though. Strong jaws on women don't always bother me if the body is tight and the face is still cute on some level.
Indira/Ellaria - no thanks
Gemma/Yara - ick
Tara/Selyse - She was obviously hotter back in the day when she was in her late 20's, but her face always struck me as "snake-ish"
After that, no one else to really remark on.
Final vote:
1 - Emilia Clarke aka Daenerys Targaryen
2 - Rose Leslie aka Ygritte
3 - Carice van Houten aka Melisandre
2 & 3 are really close in my book.
Not sure on my socio-sexual rank. Based on the hierarchy page, Beta sounds the closest. My notch count is right at 30, most of which was accumulated before becoming a Christian at the age of 29. I tend to annoy my girlfriends in that I never seem as invested in them as they are in me and for calling them out on their tactics. I annoy Alphas, typically because I make fun of them (as I do all men, but I tend to be a little harder on the alphas since I expect them to be able to handle a ribbing better) or because I'm one of the few who questions what they say, though I need to learn to be more tactful and logical when doing so. Generally though I'm well liked and HB7's aren't difficult for me to pick up but anything higher tends to make me anxious. I think I was Delta in HS but then experience and observation burned it out of me by the time I hit college. I'll leave the final call on my rank to you, oh Overlord of Hate.
@ LBF - Annabelle Wallis is gorgeous, and she can sing! Always was a sucker for singers and dancers (and actresses, but after dating several I actually screen out such women).
Not sure on my socio-sexual rank. Based on the hierarchy page, Beta sounds the closest. My notch count is right at 30,.. I annoy Alphas, typically because I make fun of them (as I do all men, but I tend to be a little harder on the alphas since I expect them to be able to handle a ribbing better) or because I'm one of the few who questions what they say, though I need to learn to be more tactful and logical when doing so. Generally though I'm well liked and HB7's aren't difficult for me to pick up but anything higher tends to make me anxious.
@Durandel
Low Sigma.
Sansa, definitely.
I'm probably delta.
Yeah... gotta go with Arya. She's not old, not ugly, won't murder you after sex, and would help kill anyone trying to kill you or steal your dick.
This is GOT we're talking about, death or loss of your dick is a very real danger.
And how can we even know our own rank? I'd like to think lower alpha, but...
I thought the socio-sexual rank thing was to order the women.
Daenerys. Explain in the next post if this takes
Daenerys. Delta.
She seems submissive to her man but can seemingly and competently hold it down if you were busy or gone. Decent looking. In the books, I believe she is sterile and if that is the case in the show, I'd probably then go Margery for similar reasons (can you tell I'm pretty busy/absent right now??). The smirk is both annoying and charming.
I'm pretty disappointed in the depiction of the Dornish women. I'm a sucker for olive skin, dark hair, dark eyes but the ones in the show are either old or dyke-ish ( at minimum none stuck out to me)
I've never seen the show. Had to google them all..... Daenerys by a long shot.
The Noble in France were way too weak to stir up trouble like that. When I said "unified" I really meant "centralized". France was an absolutist country, while Westeros is a feudal realm.
From the Encyclopedia Britannica, under the "feudalism" entry. Emphasis mine.
These institutions [fiefs] survived in England until they were abolished by Parliament in 1645 and, after the Restoration, by Charles II in 1660. Until their eradication by the National Assembly between 1789 and 1793, they had considerable importance in France, where they were employed to create and reinforce familial and social bonds.
Under the "National Assembly" entry: From June 17 to July 9, 1789, it [the National Assembly] was the name of the revolutionary assembly formed by representatives of the Third Estate.
Under the "French Revolution" entry: French Revolution, also called Revolution of 1789, the revolutionary movement that shook France between 1787 and 1799 and reached its first climax there in 1789. Hence the conventional term “Revolution of 1789,” denoting the end of the ancien régime in France and serving also to distinguish that event from the later French revolutions of 1830 and 1848.
I'll let those dates speak for themselves.
I am a strong paterfamilias beta. In Westeros, a man's socio-sexual rank is heavily dependent on birth - I am assuming I have sufficient rank to qualify for most of these women. If I picture myself in that context, I would want a woman who is young, attractive and fertile, who would make an attentive mother and a loyal wife, and who would bring social capital. That eliminates most of the list.
Too old: Cersei, Catelyn, Melisandre,
Too low class: Ygritte, Gilly, Missandei, Myranda, all the whores
Too feminist: Daenerys (post dragons)
Too fugly: Brienne
Candidates: Talisa, Daenerys (pre-dragons), Sansa, Margaery
They are all attractive enough. I like Talisa for her strength of character and nurturing skills. Daenerys pre-dragons is an exquisitely nubile babe, but unformed in character. Sansa is a too mousy, but would make a loyal if unexciting wife and mother.
Margaery is the most hypergamous, ambitious, and politically adept - she is the Claire Underwood type, a perfect companion to an ambitious and ruthless man. I would probably not be alpha enough to keep her interest.
I thought the socio-sexual rank thing was to order the women.
@Owen
Socio-sexual rank is for men, so I'm presuming he's taking about the male posters.
Women have "tiers", explained here.
It's based on a 2D interaction between four looks ranks and four sluttiness ranks, but I would add a couple of more explicit caveats:
1) out-of-wedlock births and/or abortions automatically bump up a woman to the next slutty rank (+1 for a love child, +2 for an abortion), and
2) age automatically bumps a woman down to the next attractive rank (-1 rank if over 25, -2 if over 30, automatic coyote if over 40.)
However, it's easy to extrapolate the tiers to their ideal male mates:
Tier 1: Alpha and Sigma
Tier 2: Beta
Tier 3: Delta
Tier 4: Gamma
Tier 5: Omega
If going by the character in the book series - Asha Greyjoy.
If going by the character in the tv series - Talisa Stark
Actually for me in the book series the top tier would probably be a tie between Asha Greyjoy:
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/iceandfire/images/c/cf/Regodon-asha-greyjoy.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120213162523
and Val from beyond the wall:
http://awoiaf.westeros.org/images/e/eb/Denkata5698_Val.jpg
All of these women are dangerous, but none so dangerous as women with the power of the state behind them. I see a lot of similarities between Martin's work of sexually perverted fiction and the perverted society we live in today.
Margaery is the most hypergamous, ambitious, and politically adept - she is the Claire Underwood type, a perfect companion to an ambitious and ruthless man. I would probably not be alpha enough to keep her interest.
As long as you gave her access to the throne it probably wouldn't matter. She would gladly play the queen to your king. I doubt that any man who could not give her access to her goals would keep her attention for long.
As long as you gave her access to the throne it probably wouldn't matter. She would gladly play the queen to your king. I doubt that any man who could not give her access to her goals would keep her attention for long.
Right, and whether you can do that or not is largely an accident of birth. But a Margaery born to a lower caste family would still be a social climber. She would be looking to catch as promising a man as she could get and rise as high as possible. Definitely the great woman behind the great man type. A good woman to have if you can provide her the ride she's looking for. She would be willing to make the sacrifices that great ambition requires.
Recovering gamma. Missandrei and Ygritte. Natalie Dormer's mouth thing is off putting, although she'd be perfect for a Bewitched remake. The show makes such a big deal about Daenerys' beauty that it bugs me. I've a hunch that 50 years ago Lady Olenna could have put them all to shame.
@thule222
I do believe you're right about Lady Olenna
The show makes such a big deal about Daenerys' beauty that it bugs me.
None of the actresses for the tv series are that attractive to me. The one who plays Daenerys is somewhere in the middle of that group by my assessment. As I said earlier the one who played Talisa Stark was the most attractive to me, but even she was not what I would consider extremely attractive.
So what is the theory underlying this? If one is for say Daenerys would this be labeled an Alpha/Sigma choice or a Beta/Delta/Gamma choice?
I assume I'm a Delta / low Beta although my notch count is higher than most having lived in Asia.
Peasant Woman #8, or one of those inbred chicks North of the wall.
...a question to other men here: I find some women attractive on the list, and some not, as stated above.
I find it baffling that some are saying, "too much for me" to women I'd have not thought all that complicated. Meanwhile others are saying "your choices (or those similar) are too nasty to deal with."
Is this the kind of thing Vox was looking at exploring? I view those wanting more as insane, amd those less as men whom should ask more of their women. What is the opinion of the ilk? What do you demand of women, and thus civilization, before you'd burn it to the ground?
"What do you demand of women, and thus civilization, before you'd burn it to the ground?
The Ilk don't all share the same socio-sexual rank or religious beliefs/ethics/morals, so it shouldn't be surprising to see different individuals "demand" different things from women before establishing relationships with them, especially given the variety of relationship goals (f-buddy, wife, or something in-between?). Also, since your use of the phrase "not that complicated" implies judgement based on attitude, action, and motivation rather than just pure physical attractiveness, no one should have to point out that rejecting a fictional female character from a gratuitous HBO adaptation of a nihilistic author's work of fantasy,,,qualifies as desiring to "burn civilization to the ground." Neither does rejecting real women in a perverse culture, but now I'm dancing dangerously close to another MGTOW discussion.
A good point on differing goals to a relationship. And yes, I do understand the characters are fictional and do not constitute exactness in a real woman; simply that I do see lesser tendencies of the fictional characters in real women. Thus I find it interesting to see what men put up with and encourage in women, which I do believe has influences upon civilization in either building it up or being discivic tendancies that add up as more individuals act upon them.
I ranked them by looks, as they appeared on the show (Gilly and Talisa Stark on the show are blah, in real life are very cute). I didn't think it needed to be more complicated than that.
If I were to weigh in their character, as presented on the show, than it would be Talisa Stark and the one and only that I'd consider for any type of LTR*. The rest are kinda manipulative or tramps or (Gilly) mildly retarded or unbangable (Brienne and Catelyn). So, while I'd bang a bunch, I'd only invest in one.
Talisa appeared high quality, loyal, and compassionate, despite dark circumstances. Unintimidated, yet willing to serve. And bangable.
* I've explained my problem ranking/considering Sansa.
Nobody else thinks Myrcella is growing up to be a real hottie? Looks like she's 15 right now, but I'd be willing to wait for couple more years.
Sansa, Talisa, the hot Frey girl, Myrcella. All at once.
Ygritte, there is no competition here. She is hot and she is the only loyal female on the show. She was ready to fight her wildling friends with Jon when he had turned against them.
Danaerys by a wide margin. She has a nice mouth and baby-makin' hips. I'm Beta according to both the AG and CH monkey-puzzles.
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