How surprising is it to learn that the man in the picture is the second husband of a divorcee. The only real surprise is the fact that both children are his. Hovering, mate-guarding posture? Check. Wearing the baby-sack? Check. Uncertain facial expression? Check.
And yet, he's a tall, fit, decent-looking man who could, in another universe, be the raw material for an Alpha. He's no Gamma, he's probably got a good life and it's a positive sign that his wife put a picture of her second husband in the article about her divorce. (The reverse is always a very bad sign of an Alpha Widow.)
But it's remarkable how often these things align perfectly with the theory of Game as it has thus far been developed.
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25 she sees as too young, and at 30 years old she still calls herself young. None of her frinds married before 30. She started out with the idea that marriage is not forever and still sees it that way still. I would say that divorce was her doom. But the new husband is far safer. He could get younger and better looking woman if he were cast aside by her. She could never do better than him at this point in her life. I hope it works out for them. It probably will, he looks to be a great guy. She is very lucky it worked out the way it did. I would have guessed that cats were in her future.
She should consider herself lucky he married her, especially with her looks and hips.
Currently I'm listening to 'Mothership - II' from Mothership.
Heavy.
Look at her. She stills believes she can do better or at least be fine withour him.
@Laguna Beach Fogey
While im no pot head,The evidence is clear: Stoner metal and Dinosaur Jr. Will keep you young forever. Clean them demons
Now I completely understand the look of utter disgust my husband gave me the one time I asked if he wanted to "wear" our infant son.
It looks so unmanly.
"especially with her looks and hips"
Are you kidding me. Those are some f me hips if you ever saw one and her face is not that bad. Blonde woman in some shape with nice hips?? I know I don't know you but if you are doing better than that, I'd be surprised.
It's easy to pile on here, but fugly that is not. Disingenuous is not all that endearing.
Well at least she respects him enough to not go whale, and while she is probably 10-20 pounds over weight I will cut her some slack given the baby's age. Was probably rather stunning for her first husband.
I know two women who have been divorced (under 35) both of them celebrated the end of their starter marriage with a boob job.
I never understood the purpose of the baby sack. I am not helping my wife migrate our unexpected triplets as we follow the buffalo. They weigh 10-20 pounds where am I going that I can't just carry them a mile or two? Also never understood the people with beastly strollers. Whats it do that the $19.95 umbrella stroller doesn't?
the baby sack, i.e. wearing your baby, it's a good thing when baby is small. Less fussing, easy access to nursing. For women who don't have any access to post-natal assistance, it's a blessing. Fussy baby? calm him/her down with a snuggle while you get dinner ready, courtesy of baby sling. Grocery shopping and don't want to wrestle a car seat into the not-for-certain safe clips on a shopping cart, and keep baby quiet? Wear baby in a sling.
As for beastly strollers...well, when pushing them over a distance of a few miles, the larger and more sturdy the wheels, the better. I could only carry two littles at once on my body; one of them had to be in a stroller, and an umbrella stroller wasn't up to the task of most of the walking that had to be done. And sometimes I just packed them all in a car and DROVE them around while doing errands.
"especially with her looks and hips"
She is over 30 years old and just had her second child about 8 weeks ago. In another 8 weeks her rear end should be back to prefect at that pace. I wish my figure came back that fast. Long pretty blond hair, nice eyes, she is not bad looking at all. My comment more about her being over 30 and her husband being a good looking fit man. He can do better and she cant is just the way it happens. I would know I'm over thirty myself and my husband is tall and fit. Its not fair but its life
It's not just her hips. I don't like her square face, either. Check out the manjaw on that mug.
I guess this is what Rollo would call open hypergamy - women essentially bragging about using different men for different things at different stages of their lives. And then they wonder why so many men are reluctant to get married.
She has that distinctive "pre-fat" look written all over her. I bet he'll be straying in no time. Do Deltas cheat?
Paul Elam once defined hypergamy as the female tendency to use males as appliances (dildos, ATMs, human shields) to be used and discarded at will, depending on the female's needs at any given moment. Kinda harsh, but not that far off really.
Matt ~ Indeed, same here. Although there was a brief period a couple of years ago when I was drinking and smoking almost every night after work. Trainwreck. The older I get the more I feel like a Southern good 'ol boy in the body of a Norse god. I'm seeing those guys play in Santa Ana next weekend. All is well.
@: " . Do Deltas cheat?"
Depends on the quality of his opportunities.
"He's no Gamma"
So nice of you. You might be a think he is if he spoke with you.
Is there a point aside from 'na na na na'? There are so many single non-divorced women without kids that men can avoid divorcees if they try.
"both of them celebrated the end of their starter marriage with a boob job"
Which they no doubt got some thirsty older dudes to buy for them. I've known such men and their young girlfriends. They're all over the place here.
Speaking of boob jobs, the blonde woman in the photo could use one to offset her hips.
Quit hating on the papoose. I haven't actually used one, but I would. Sure, you can carry an infant around, but what happens when you want to eat carnival food or grab another kid by the hair and shake him? You need your hands free.
Although strollers are probably a better alternative, they are designed for women. Which is less "manly," wearing a baby in a sack, or shuffling around bent over pushing a stroller? The correct answer is C, holding your wife's purse while she changes the baby.
From the article:
My weak spot in any fight with my husband is to bark, “Well, why don’t we just get divorced, then?”
He isn't secure.
Paul Elam once defined hypergamy as the female tendency to use males as appliances (dildos, ATMs, human shields) to be used and discarded at will, depending on the female's needs at any given moment. Kinda harsh, but not that far off really.
"But it's remarkable how often these things align perfectly with the theory of Game as it has thus far been developed."
Well, only if one filters the entire world thru the, ah, pet theories of oneself and one's pals. But 'men' have been behaving like this thousands of years. Plain ole dicklessness and cowardice explain it, not Game.
She has that distinctive "pre-fat" look written all over her. I bet he'll be straying in no time. Do Deltas cheat?
She just pushed a baby out of her a couple months ago. If she still looks like that this time next year, you would have a point.
Although strollers are probably a better alternative, they are designed for women. Which is less "manly," wearing a baby in a sack, or shuffling around bent over pushing a stroller? The correct answer is C, holding your wife's purse while she changes the baby.
Pretty sure the correct answer is have enough social network credits to dump the infant off someplace for a couple hours while you take the others with you. Alternatively, make enough money to afford to pay some 12 year old to watch your kid.
My weak spot in any fight with my husband is to bark, “Well, why don’t we just get divorced, then?”
He isn't secure.
heh. My wife said that to me once during a fight. I handed her my phone and told her to call XYZ, because she had hired a good one. Haven't heard the D word since.
the baby sack, i.e. wearing your baby, it's a good thing when baby is small.
The point is that a man wearing a papoose looks ridiculous.
The only real surprise is the fact that both children are his
Um...proof?
My weak spot in any fight with my husband is to bark, “Well, why don’t we just get divorced, then?” She is holding all the cards here. When she decides she's not haaaaappy he is royally screwed. 2 children he'll never see and that will serve as income transfer chits forever. She'll also get alimony, the house, etc. His "half" will be paid to her in installments over at best 2-3 years.
There is an important female reaction to the reality that a man's opportunity rises and sinks at different rates than does a woman's. The divorce rape process serves to cut the legs out from under this equation by denying him even a basic living wage should she decide to divorce him. This fits precisely with the feminine concept of if "I ain't happy no one will be!!". When she gets older, fatter, and even less attractive and sees that other women are attracted to her now husband - she can pull the ripcord and make sure that he isn't attractive to them anymore if she gets too insecure. AND there are guaranteed cash and prizes for her to do just that.
But the new husband is far safer. He could get younger and better looking woman if he were cast aside by her. She could never do better than him at this point in her life.
It all depends on how far gone she is in the Sex and City fantasy.
Has she settled for this guy permanently or is she in her secret heart, still looking for "Mister Perfect." She still thinks, heart throbbing romantic love is the sound basis for a solid marriage.
She keeps stating divorce in arguments...she's already thinking about it.
"Pretty sure the correct answer is have enough social network credits to dump the infant off someplace for a couple hours while you take the others with you. Alternatively, make enough money to afford to pay some 12 year old to watch your kid."
No. Not a good idea. Take the baby in a large-wheeled stroller or strapped to your wife. It's not that big a deal. There are just some places you don't go at some times. Restaurants aren't much fun; neither are crowds. Parks and trails are good, provided it's not too rough and your other children are big enough to walk. I've carried a toddler on my back plenty of times. Good exercise.
Baby or no baby, she pretty much looks like that all the time. It even looks as though she's developing some serious wrinkles on her forehead. Ouch.
She keeps stating divorce in arguments...she's already thinking about it.
If she's done it once she'll do it again.
We were divorced by 30, the age when everyone else I knew was getting engaged or married.
Keywords: "everyone else I knew". As soon as these other women in her circle start getting divorced, she will join them.
Oh, and they're Brits too. That just about guarantees that they're as dysfunctional as any couple anywhere can ever be.
The Bible keeps it pretty simple...don't get involved with an adulterous or a divorced woman. It doesn't go into the gritty details why...but it's stuff like this that's the why.
Oh, and they're Brits too. That just about guarantees that they're as dysfunctional as any couple anywhere can ever be.
If that's the case, he's substantially better off than average. British women are hands down the world's worst white women.
British women are hands down the world's worst white women.
They come in third. We Yanks hold the permanent "World's Worst Women" award, with our northern neighbors coming in a very close second.
Read the article closely. I've read that divorce spreads like a communicable disease thru a social group. Any married guy can tell you that if a woman uses such a statement in a fight, it's gonna happen. She'll take him to the cleaners, and carry his testicles in a sack. Oh well.......there's only so much room in the lifeboat.
It's probably a three way tie between America, Canada, and Britain. They are all trying to race each other to the bottom.
Don't forget Australian women. The stories I've heard...
Don't forget Australian women. The stories I've heard...
They're essentially British anyway. So are New Zealanders. Irish women have similar problems.
The U.S. and Canada are actually not nearly as badly off as these other English-speaking countries. And those who insist they are have probably never met British women.
Also, believe it or not, I did figure out a way to get hard data on where the world's best and worst women are:
Link
I agree with you about women in Britain. I first noticed the change in the '80s. The sexual promiscuity, public drunkenness, the drinking and cursing like men. Crazy. Easy to dismiss as loutish working class behaviour, but the uppers did it, too.
For a brief period I worked for the Tory party and the crowd surrounding Sarah, Duchess of Gloucester in Kensington and Chelsea were notorious for this. One of them sat herself atop a desk in the office, spread her legs, and invited me to go down on her. Many of them still wore skirts, and they were absolutely shameless in 'inadvertently' flashing me their panties and bush.
Of course, these types of English girls were instrumental in providing some of my earliest sexual adventures as a teenager, so I do look upon them with some fondness.
American women are just a whole other kind of bad.
Bam! The Wall.
Check out her photo:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/you/article-2913287/Bullying-doesn-t-stop-leave-school-writer-Sarah-Ivens-reveals.html
So much hamster in that article it made me laugh. From the "I was getting married young at 25" line, to the admission in her heart that it could be a starter marriage WHILE SHE WAS WALKING DOWN THE AISLE, to the fact that she threatens the new chump with a divorce all the time, all I have to say is, boo on this hoe
It's probably a three way tie between America, Canada, and Britain. They are all trying to race each other to the bottom.
It just occurred to me that we're tossing this sidebar around on Mother's Day eve. How appropriate (ROTFLMAO).
Don't forget Australian women. The stories I've heard...
Yeah. Really sad. During my first and only visit to Australia 35 years ago, all the women I met "Down Under" were the polar opposite of what they're reputed to be now. Then again, that was 35 years ago, when Anglosphere women were still actual human beings ... *SIGH*
Using the threat of divorce in an argument? Dude should get a divorce document drawn up (with the most punitive settlement in his favor), and the next time she brings it up he should just toss it at her and say, "Sign it, and we're done."
One of two things will happen: she'll sign it in a rage (binding herself to a no-win contract), or she'll cower. Either way, he wins.
One of two things will happen: she'll sign it in a rage (binding herself to a no-win contract), or she'll cower. Either way, he wins.
Nobody wins when they marry a "woman" like this.
I tend to read to much into these type of photo's, but look at how he aggressively leans into her. Her lean is a bit subdued...almost as if she's forcing herself to accept the embrace. And the little one at their feet? He just wants dad to grow a pair and lose the baby bjorn.
Adorn him in armor and have him gaze up to the heavens, holding aloft his infant in one hand, presenting him to the creator. She, scantily clad, is sitting on the ground, grasping his thigh and begging for a glance and promise of an evening romp.
Wait...that's sexist. Lose the armor and replace it with a serape. Put some clothes on her (preferably a business suit), and have her stand in front of him, brushing his hand from her shoulder while she pays the nanny to take the kids and keep them busy while mommy makes a new Facebook profile photo. Better.
I enjoyed wearing the papoose. It put the weight on the shoulders and kept the arms free. I didn't give a shit what anyone thought about it.
What I note about the photo is she's leaning away from him and has her hand on the older kid, not on him. Bodes ill for that marriage.
@Dexter. I used to wear it all the time as well. I was stay at home dad for our youngest in seminary while the wifey worked. Often, I'd have to move her sleeping when I went to class - the sling was great. As soon as I put her in it she would immediately fall asleep.
(Shhhh...don't tell anyone).
Also, notice where his hands are. & where her hands are in that photo.
Its a sad thing to not know how a woman from your own culture will behave if shes desperate for your cockkckkKKZzzzzzzzzzaaaaa
It needs to be drilled into men to behave in such a way that the girl ia hanging on you. She unzips your jeans. She pushes for sex. They look for a wife, see she doesnt push to get physical, and think they hit the jackpot, not realizing shes not into him. Just think of where the girl came from. These arent muslim girls from Afghanistan.
'They look for a wife, see she doesnt push to get physical, and think they hit the jackpot, not realizing shes not into him. '
Given that some women will have sex with guys they aren't into...I wouldn't take physical as strictly the one thing that shows she's into you. It's more about the entire story.
I can tell by how gals talk about their significant other most of the time if they are into them or not...most aren't. They say scathing things about their boyfriends or men in general...and it's not just a one time thing in frustration. It's a pattern. Whether that's because she's been trained to hate men or the guy is emasculated or both is up for discussion as to the reason behind it.
Got to suck to be a Delta these days and believing all that shit propaganda out there. I know a guy who stuck it into a woman who ran a trap pregnancy on him. So he hitches up and they have two boys, she of course is crazy and the marriage dissolves then the usual financial rape. So he quits his business goes part feral and since he has two boys he uses them in a fashion to drive the old lady off her rocker, accomplishes that gets full custody and the boys grow up well, both join the USMC and distinguish themselves. Mother still crazy.
He had it fairly easy because of having two boys, a girl would have probably destroyed herself being stuck with crazy mom. But men especially white men have to man up and be direct and speak clearly about how all that shit propaganda is just that shit propaganda and not try the usual method of playing conservative intellectual Beta Boy who wants that eternal dream of "fair and reasonable exchange of ideas" bullshit.
You guys might get a kick out of this: I just had two girls fight over me.
So last night I went out with a girlfriend to a live music venue in Laguna Beach. We grabbed some cocktails and stood near the stage. The IOIs started coming in thick and fast, particularly from a group of hot thirtysomething blondes who were gyrating across the dance floor. Of course, my gf noticed and immediately got into defense mode.
At one point one of the tiny blondes slid in between us and started grinding her ass on my crotch. It was pretty blatant. Having consumed several G&Ts by that point, I honestly didn't much care at first, but my gf did and words were exchanged.
I was oblivious to what was going down next to me, until another woman--who was there with her bf and who kept smiling at me and rubbing my beard (which was also driving my gf crazy)--told me what was up. My gf and the tiny blonde were in each other's face and threatening each other. I caught the words "fucking cunt" and "fuck off". It looked as if blows were about to be exchanged.
After I told her to calm down my gf finally just turned her back on her and the little blonde backed off, swearing and spitting. I turned around and yelled at her to fuck off, chill out, relax, and enjoy the music. She slinked away to the back of the bar with her friends. She was still glaring at us when we left at midnight.
I think I handled the scene pretty well and prevented what could have turned into major drama and possible crime scene on the dance floor.
I didn't want to be a total dick to the little blonde and her hot friends because, well, you never know. You have to leave your options open. haha
My one regret was not getting the number of the woman who kept smiling at me and rubbing my bearded face. Seriously sexy, with long light brown hair bleached at the ends and a rack to die for. Her bf, strangely enough, was cool with it and kept trying to make nice.
It's all about attitude.
I bet anything he's a good husband and father.
And therein lies the rub. The biggest obstacle most women face in having a good husband is their own inclinations in the other direction. And, unfortunately, they instead see men as the obstacle.
Women are their own worst enemy.
The funny thing is, when I was yelling at the tiny blonde [I had to yell due to loud music] to fuck off and chill out, she had what I think was an aroused look on her face and it seemed as if she was about to kiss me.
"My weak spot in any fight with my husband is to bark, “Well, why don’t we just get divorced, then?” He knows I’ve done it before."
This right here. I can't even imagine using that line with my husband let alone as a routine line in a spat. That is an abusive nasty thing to utter to someone you've pledged your life to be with. We both agree there are certain things you can't unsay. She clearly hasn't grown that much since her first marriage and the poor guy let's her get away with it.
I hate women who think its cute to piss a man off or get off on being yelled at etc. I just want to kill the bitch.
Abuse is right. Threatening divorce is bascially saying "i have more legal muscle than you and am threatening third party force to throw you out the house, keep you from you kids, and take your money." If a man threatened first party force he'd be called abusive.
Of course women have been conditioned to not see their threats as abuse, but to even see silence as abuse if he walks out if the room.
We're doomed.
Guy needs to seriously start looking for his own stuff on the side and then start playing the dread game with this harpy.
She is no prize either. Hips are way too wide and jaw way to square and mannish. Not much at all about her face is particularly feminine and the average wrinkling of age will wreck havoc on her face.
To counter her experience, he should lock on to her flash points,the ones that will trigger a violent, physical response, so that when she pulls that "Let's just get a divorce" crap, he can trigger her physical aggression, giving him the grounds to call 911 and get her jailed, with a restraining order against her.
Then, he operates from a position of strength. He could even use the "she beats the children regularly " or "she fondles them in unusual ways" stories, as divorced chicks are now encouraged to do against their exes.
Black knighting women using their own tactics, is one way to start stemming the anti-male tide.
'She's no prize because of looks x,y,z.'
No...she's no prize because she's divorced before, she's threatened divorce again, and she has a terrible state in her heart when it comes to her view of marriage. I don't care if she's a supermodel...that's the definition of an ugly woman.
I hate women who think its cute to piss a man off or get off on being yelled at etc. I just want to kill the bitch.
They know that we've been conditioned (most of us, anyway) to restrain ourselves. They should thank God for that because, absent that restraint, these disgusting, combative, disrespectful, duplicitous creatures that pass themselves off as women today would consist largely of mangled, broken, bloody corpses.
My dad always said that if women didn't have pussies there'd be a bounty on them.
Heh my grandfather said the same thing. If it was for tits and puss we'd of killed them off a long time ago.
She seems to be approving of the starter marriage, but I imagine she will change her tune if her husband decides this is HIS starter marriage. And she will judge him.
Apart from the added legal repercussions, theres little difference between a woman whos been married, and a woman whos had a long term relationship(s). Or the random slut, for that matter. They all did every filthy thing long before you got there. They all have terrible baggage. They all have other men to think about. They all have pictures and videos out there featuring them in all sorts of sex acts. They all have little mementos they saved for whatever reasons.
Next thing you know, your life turns into some bridges of Madison county notebook garbage because you didnt recognize the signs.
WOMEN. ARE. ORNAMENTAL.
You should be out doing whatever you want. Take her dancing once a week or so and thats it. Damned if you do, less damned if you dont.
'Translation: Yeah, she was validly married. Dernit. I really wish they wouldn't do that.'
I wonder if it was a civil marriage or if they actually got God involved with the marriage process.
I imagine if they knew each other for only a couple months...they didn't do any marriage prep.
"I imagine if they knew each other for only a couple months...they didn't do any marriage prep."
Oh I imagine they did plenty of "marriage prep".... a lot of the unsupervised, in-the-back-seat kind of marriage prep.
Doesn't matter if God was involved either. She would deny she did anything wrong in breaking the basic marriage vows anyway. In a woman's mind those vows only apply to men and the monogamy/provisioning aspects of the vows; its called a "unilateral contract" and its benefits flow only one way, while the burdens apply only to the male!
When the youngest child turns four or five...that divorce talk will ramp up considerably and she will be positioning for the exit.
And that photo, him leaning in and her leaning away...clearest sign that she's repulsed.
I think the point that most women view vows as on the husband is valid. They think they are unwaivering to the man regardless of what the wife does. On the other hand, any breaking of her vows she will blame in him. No excuses only goes one way in her mind.
Case in point: adultery. We never let men off the hook by crying neglect, but blame neglect when a wife does.
When a husband cheats, the judge says: "the husband cheated on his wife. The jerk's gonna pay."
When a wife cheats, the same judge will say: "the husband neglected his wife. That jerk's gonna pay."
'Oh I imagine they did plenty of "marriage prep".... a lot of the unsupervised, in-the-back-seat kind of marriage prep.'
Which isn't marriage prep. That has been shown in numerous studies it actually is one of the things that increases the likelihood of someone (woman mostly) torpedoing a marriage.
I often think promiscuous women will only use sex to lure naive men into their traps. Bible points this out a few times.
Remember the phrase: "I'm cutting you off."
If a man says it, he is referring to money. If a woman says it, she's referring to sex. Sex is a woman's relationship currency.
Most men understand that bad wives are more expensive than good wives. Well, to wives, bad husbands are more expensive than good husbands.
I agree on the baby sack. I hate seeing men wear them. As cute as it is to see a man, especially a good looking fit guy, hold a baby, wearing a sack is different. That is something women do in order to be close to the baby and still be able to work. Whether it is wearing it on the back or the front, it implies domesticity. Men should not wear baby sacks.
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