Besides the warm, pumpkin-candle scented aisles of the Hobby Lobby, there’s another new club for self-effacing female enablers of angry white men. Women Against Feminism had, last time I checked, 16,013 followers on Facebook. Its tumblr is constructed of selfies of young women, dressed and posed like ads for DIY escort services, holding up bits of notebook paper on which they’ve scrawled screeds against feminism.And yet, when male critics point out that feminists are to blame for all the negative fruits of women voting, working, and failing to produce the next generation, we're told that it is the fault of the men who gave in to the dictatorship of the petticoat.
Here are just a few quotes from a compendium of such blinding idiocy and prejudice that it defies description.
Black nail-polished hands hold a notebook over a half-shirt exposing a bellybutton: “I don’t need feminism because I don’t think it’s necessary to belittle and dispose of an entire gender in the name of equality.”
A note is propped against the protuberant cleavage enhanced by a pushup bra under a tank top. “If I’m wearing a top like this I want you to look.”
A woman with two or three lip piercings: “I don’t need feminism because blaming men for your OWN insecurities and mistakes is WRONG & ABSURD.”
These women are slandering the movement that enabled their freedom. They live in a world in which they and their mothers can vote, decide whether or not to work, who and when to marry, and whether and when to have children. That was not the case for women within living memory. They have feminists to thank for that, not Rush Limbaugh’s ideological forebears.
Aging feminists are angry that women are wisely beginning to turn away from an insane and incoherent ideology that is societal and civilizational suicide. And that anger is a positive sign that the equalitarian wave is finally beginning to recede.
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I especially like the snide remarks like, "dressed and posed like ads for DIY escort services," and, "protuberant cleavage enhanced by a pushup bra." I've seen some of these, and the girls are usually dressed quite modestly by today's standards -- after all, that's where many of them are coming from in the first place. There's an obvious overlap between the modesty/chastity movement and this anti-feminist, "I don't need birth control" stuff that's emerging.
But since when are feminists against women choosing how to display their bodies or exploring their personalities with piercings? When those things start being used against them, I guess. They're really starting to blow up their own arguments with their obvious envy.
I'm not sure which metaphor works best here.
Feminism is a labor union for ugly women? We're gonna show you what happens to scabs!
Or is it Alpha-mares trampling out rebellion within the herd?
Hardly matters either way. At sixteen thousand, this was a blip that a rational being would have completely ignored, rather than raise it's profile by calling attention to it.
This was completely expected.
I thought women were not supposed to be shamed for what they wore or how they expressed themselves as per slut walks? Am I missing something? So is it that you're only considered a slut if you are not part of a slut walk group and their ideology? Makes no sense. Either I am missing something here, or these women are willing to insinuate other women are whores and trash (DIY escort services) as long as their ideology is out of step with their lockstep. But then this would be in direct opposition to their support for Femen/Pussy Riot who display much more if not all of it to the public.
One thing that has long amused me about women is how they simultaneously use distrust of men as a justification for just about anything, while at the same tkme they will physically assault a man twice their size because they trust him not to hurt her in return.
They live in a world in which they and their mothers can vote, decide whether or not to work, who and when to marry, and whether and when to have children. That was not the case for women within living memory
The complete and utter ignorance of history - it burns! I tell you, I can't even with these people.
But since when are feminists against women choosing how to display their bodies or exploring their personalities with piercings?
When the women in question have better looking bodies to display than the feminists. One thing almost all women dislike is another woman getting more male attention. It doesn't really matter if she's getting it by being younger, prettier, or showing more cleavage, she's clearly doing something wrong and despicable.
If we were to use the Bible as a guide GG, God's will is for you to shut the hell up.
Did someone order stupid? It's not DeGiorno, it's GG.
Nina Burleigh is getting tree chippered in the comments. One brave feminist is trying to stick her fingers in the dyke. Sad...
..nd if you bring someone to Christ under false pretenses
Did I REALLY just read that statement?
I know I'm going go profoundly regret asking for this, but please do explain how one "leads someone to Christ under false pretenses." That's like saving someone from drowning or burning up in a house fire under false pretenses. Tell me why in this case "PRETENSES MATTER."
No one can read it now! Sheeeeeee's outta herrrreeeeeee! A grand slam for the bleachers, GG'S ROUNDING FIRST AND TAGGED OUT BY THE VETERAN FIELDER DAY. WHAT A GREAT PLAY TO END THE GAME.
Wait, that Confused Cats tumblr is supposed to be mocking Women Against Feminism?
Now I'm confused... the cat's arguments against feminism seemed perfectly reasonable to me...
OT, but really damned important:
Rubio joins Senate Democrats in their efforts to do away with college men's due process rights.
Rubio's a complete piece of shit.
I am still not convinced it isn't some sort of false flag NAWALT operation directed to stem the most obscene abuses so that they can keep all of the moderate and minor ones.
Really if they wanted to pimp their anti-feminist creds, you would see a plate of baked goods, or a lasagna or a vacuum cleaner, or ideal the Maria Kang flat abs with an 8 month old shot.
Retrenched,
Rape is so serious that we need to take it out of the hands of criminal courts and put it in the hands of students, professors, and faculty!
Google "Nina Burleigh kneepads" for a refresher on her commitment to fighting The Patriarchy™.
Owen,
"Can you hear the people sing!?!"
I think it is more than just a sign that the equalitarian wave is finally beginning to recede.
My read is that the checks and balances between the sexes is built in. When your woman becomes overwhelming, when neither your words nor actions will get her to behave, what do the majority of men do?
Walk away.
You literally do not want to be in the same space.
It’s not a considered action, it’s instinctive and all the more powerful because of it. It takes a hell of a lot for a man to reject women.
But that’s what men, as a group, are starting to do to women, as a group. Increasing numbers of younger men are looking at their female peers and finding too many of them to be somewhere between useless and disgusting.
And when men walk away from women they start living their lives without regard to what women want. Indeed, some men never come back.
This is what these young women are responding too. They are sencing that brand 'woman' is and has been devalued in the eyes of men by the feminists.....because it has. For the first time sizable numbers of young women are getting a sence that they may not ever get commitment from a worthy man.....because in all likelyhood, they wont.
And when faced with rejection by a man they desire, what do women do? They start to play nice, they start to consider what men want.
These women are signalling to men that they are looking to play nice. Although good to see, I suspect it will be too little too late. The reaction amongst men I have discussed this with is mostly 'meh'.
A lot of men have got a lot more walking to do before they will change direction.
Poor choice of quotes if she's looking for "idiocy and prejudice."
Yup.
Reminds me of when the wife and I go out shopping with all 5 sons.
Men who see us ignore us, look mildly surprised, or joke about a basketball team.
Women either ignore us, smile (other religious people) or get mad. Very, very mad.
Why? She's breaking the rules! She has a lot of sons and she is obviously happy about it!
These women are signalling to men that they are looking to play nice. Although good to see, I suspect it will be too little too late. The reaction amongst men I have discussed this with is mostly 'meh'.
Yes, it is too late and the reaction of large numbers of men to all the "playing nice" is not just "meh," but "go fuck yourself."
Modetn western women have proved themselves thoroughly and beyond question to be master manipulators and that is how men see this "playing nice." A leopard doesn't change its spots. It will take a whole hell of a lot more substantive action than "playing nice" for men to give women even a tiny measure of benefit of the doubt again.
"Really if they wanted to pimp their anti-feminist creds, you would see a plate of baked goods, or a lasagna or a vacuum cleaner, or ideal the Maria Kang flat abs with an 8 month old shot. "
Time for them to capitalize on the "making a sammich" meme.
They say in order to maintain a civilised society, you need - "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty"
Yet once people are comfortable, easily distracted & don't feel compelled to fight for very little; don't be surprised if they don't stand by your side ready to rant & rally.
That young women today can - " I do what I want", means there's very little for them to fight for.
Far easier to gossip about Bieber on their smart phones, eat a chunk of Ben & Jerries, shove their cleavage out & flirt with the boys as opposed to being in a constant state of mental anguish, angst & anger.
Be careful what you ask for feminist fools. you may just get it.
Not to mention, if you try to enforce a set of principles on young people (especially teenagers), don't be surprised if they "rebel" & do the complete opposite out of mere defiance.
Call me cynical, but I think that this #womenagainstfeminism nonsense is the more clever feminists realizing that they've overextended themselves, and consolidating their gains instead.
The delta/gamma boys are happy (happier, rather) and the feminists continue the trudge towards...whatever their endstate is. Just a bit slower, is all.
Yes, it is too late and the reaction of large numbers of men to all the "playing nice" is not just "meh," but "go fuck yourself."
The reaction from bitter pill Gammas, sure.
The reaction from men however, is "about damn time."
No, not "about damned time." More like "so you say.. now put your money where your mouth is and PROVE IT!"
Some of you may have a fantasy that most men have completely rejected women, but that is just that, a fantasy. Men are still made to like women. They may not like much of the modern incarnation, but they still like it better than other men (in context) or being alone. MGTOW may work for some, but I can't see it sweeping the world.
And it is a good thing if it does not or we won't have too many more generations....
16K followers? Come on. Sure, it would be nice if western feminism suddenly disappeared, but there are a lot more people than 16K advocating for exercise, and yet everyone is still so out of shape. There are people who want to stop financial corruption and endless war, too, and they're not getting anywhere either.
I'm all for cheering progress, but this particular group of people seems more like kids who want an excuse to post pictures of themselves, rather than any indication of substantial change. Until we start breaking up the crime families, none of this will be any more than window dressing. America needs ridiculous domestic social movements in order to function this way, just like it needs crappy movies and tasers and new land wars in Asia.
Dredging through the depths of UK society, Jeremy Kyle comes up with this corker ..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbxYPFv847M
@Jack
The reaction from men however, is "about damn time."
Whilst undoubtadly true I think this looks past the real dynamic that is driving this.
Women don't care if the gammas tell them to 'Go fuck themselves' Because women have never cared about low status men.
My feel is that the real change driving this dynamic is the quality of men dis-engaging with women. High quality men have always has a disproportionate effect on the herd. Although small in number, it is the men women deem 'worthy' who are dis-engaging that are getting the herd antentee twitching.
It is the quality of the men that
@Brad
I agree that it is fantasy to expect men to completely reject women but IMO your thinking is too binary. My interpretation of what I see would be more correctly stated as men rejecting women's terms rather than women themselves.
Most men are not rejecting women, they are dis-engaging from them. This doesn't mean they have nothing to do with women, just that some men are starting to lead their lives without reference to what women want. In the real world this manifests itself as relationships without commitment, provisioning at discretion rather than by obligation and choices made more in the spirit of 'forgiveness is easier than permission' rather than full disclosure.
The power of this approach is that it leads men down a path soemwhere between the alpha fux / beta bux imperatives of female sexuality. This is supremely confusing for women. It's why we are seeing schisms opening up amongst feminists and women in general.
I think what we are seeing is a re-negotiating of the terms. #womenagainstfeminism is likely to be the first of many rounds in this negotiation.
@High Arka: Every social change has to start somewhere. It does no good to complain that a nascent movement has not yet taken over the world even after having been at it for a week.
Cadders,
I am not arguing that it is binary. It is not and that would be my primary argument. Many argue as if it is.
I would agree many men are fed up with the terms and will work around them, even though that can be quite difficult today. They are unlikely to completely abandon women. That is a meme that is often seen in sites like this even though it not likely to ever happen.
Also known as the Fugitive Slave Act. The Democrats were very big on that before the Civil War, and they continue it to this day in its modified form. You just can't be thrown in chains (at least not yet). As an aside, black men suffer disproportionately from the modern day Fugitive Slave laws. Just witness the lynch mob when a conservative black man tries to walk around outside the plantation.
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