British mother abandons her three children to marry Texas violent prisoner she met online after becoming 'impressed with his honesty'. Jennifer Butler is leaving her three children in UK to marry American prisoner. Christoper Mosier will be released on parole in September after serving five-years of a 15-year sentence for drug convictions. Butler met Mosier online in 2011 and they became penpals. First traveled to see him in October and Mosier proposed using a piece of grey string as a ring. Is leaving her three children - all younger than 10 - with their father.Here is the punchline: "I am devoted to my children but they deserve a happy mum too." Actually, leaving your children to chase a violent felon is almost the exact opposite of devotion to your children.
Judging by the appearance of her children, I'm going to guess that she just couldn't stand her herbish husband any longer and started Alpha-chasing online.
"The single mother started writing to Mosier in July after she found his profile on the website, writeaprisoner.com, which unites would be pen-pals to inmates online."
Writeaprisoner.com is like crack for women craving Alpha.
'I was really intrigued by his profile. It was different to the rest. Most of the guys were posing with their tops off. But his was articulate and he was open about his crime.'
Mm-hmm.... Try that next time, my dear Deltas and Gammas. Be honest and open about your crimes. Preferably with your top off.
91 comments:
Blergh fuck this life, that such as writeaprisoner.com actually exists.
I get that these guys are "Alpha" in the pure biological sense, but how can evolution favour such civilisation destroying attributes? These are the guys who would burn everything around them and kill their own kids on a whim.
Also in other news, one of the main political parties here in the UK is allowing one of their spots to be filled ONLY by a woman, because, equality: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-28156857
"A Welsh Labour spokesman said: "We make absolutely no apology for seeking to increase the number of women in parliament or for all-women shortlists."
Sad really. So sad.
Marriage, family and friends is are all back thoughts in this ever-increasing cutthroat, manipulating, "get-over" world we live in.
Many women just ease on by in life with their beta providers but craving of seductive "Alpha fruit" always tugs away at their lustful desires and then, they will blatantly leave behind their responsibilities and dignity to fulfill those desires...
This world has gone absolutely CRAZY. If people keep running wild and loose like this in this narcissistic world, what can one honestly see this world being like in the next 10 years (God-willing) if we do not go overboard in the next 5 years or possibly less than that?
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She looks like Tracy Morgan. I knew she was going to be ugly, but *WOW*.
This is as close as that woman ever is going to get to an alpha. He kind of looks like a caricature, too. It is unfortunate that they will likely produce more children. Stupid, bad decision making children.
how can evolution favour such civilisation destroying attributes?
Why should evolution favor civilization at all?
Don't worry, the tradcons will be here any minute to explain how this is really all men's fault and how the women are totally innocent here.
Gotta acquire more crimes. At this point, honesty wouldn't be the best strategy.
Disgusting woman, shoving this off in her kids. They "deserve" a happy mum, so she's dumping them to sex up a felon. If that's devotion, I hate to see what she thinks betrayal is.
Thosee kids are almost certainly going to be better off.
Okay does this prisoner really know what he is getting into here?
Dude I know it's been five years since you've had sex...with a woman anyway... but you can do better. She's six years older than you that never works out...and she's crazy that's a minus too. You were dealer, you've got the entrepreneurial spirit and you're a people person.
Raise your sights. Up your game. You can do better.
Start by reading a few game blogs. Like this for example; where you can learn such gems as....whooooooa...wait a minute. Wait. A. Minute.
Vox didn't have post here not too long ago that covered this very topic? A woman giving up her kids as a requirement for a relationship?
You know, if Eliot Rodger had just committed a few assaults and thefts instead of murder, he would have had plenty of girls craving his dick once he got out of jail, amd no one would have died, either...
amd* = and
Not that Im endorsing that kind of behavior, but, you gotta admit it would have certainly been preferable to what actually happened.
cailcorishev said...
how can evolution favour such civilisation destroying attributes?
Why should evolution favor civilization at all?
No, turn it the other way: this is good evidence that evolution is a bad theory of life, as it obviously does not map well to reality. The well-being of the organism is *obviously* better in a civilized society, yet once we give up on restraining primal urges, the tendency is always away from civilization.
Whereas the idea that there is indeed good and evil, truth and beauty vs lies and ugliness, and a Creator who gives us the choice, and a historical precedent for mankind making a fatal choice to follow short-term desire over long-term wisdom maps quite well to what we observe around us.
@retrenched
Eliot rodger did say in his manifesto that he did try to assault some people but ended up breaking his leg due to his inferior fighting skills.
Chicks dig thugs.
I suspect she'll be a statistic herself in fairly short order.
RobertW
Have you also watched that horrifying film, The Paperboy? I went in innocently - okay, I went in stupidly. I liked John Cusack in a few films many years ago. I recommend it to no one, but suffice to say a very foolish woman (Nicole Kidman) who was attracted a felon (Cusack) got her just rewards after far too many rank and debase movie minutes that just kept getting worse. The only upside was the foolish woman met a logical end.
Vox, if you've watched as many episodes of Castle as I think you have, I'm not sure whether to be appalled or impressed.
Wait, is that tattoo on his head supposed to be an exposed brain?
from the article: "[Butler describing an convicted criminal] .. "felt an instant connection with him and was struck by his honesty."
'for his honesty'
Laugh, I nearly cried. That hamster is on speed.
All the guys I know in prison, including two relatives (one paralyzed in a fight when gotten down and kicked until his spine broke) are not "Alphas." Most of them are just wimps who lost their temper and badly hurt someone (such as my paralyzed cousin who murdered a man and got 40 years), or else are stupid and impulsive. Most the most naïve and foolish think these losers are thugs. And the woman mentioned suffers from a disorder known as Hybristophilia.
Like Rev. GG preaches, give love a chance.
Sorry for any dups. IE isn't cooperating.
A friend shared this on DerpBook:
A lot of men act like they are doing a
woman a favor by asking for her hand
in marriage but let's think about this:
She changes her name, changes her
home, leaves her family, moves in with
you, builds a home with you, gets pregnant for you, bear ur children for
you, pregnancy destroys her body, she
gets fat, almost give up in the labour
room due to the unexplainable pains of
childbirth, even the kids she delivers
bear youw name. Till the day she dies, everything she does benefits you.
So who is really doing who a favor?
Dear Men appreciate your wife today
because it is not easy to be a Woman.
Bing a woman is Priceless!!!! Too bad
so many women of today don't even know their value.
"Like Rev. GG preaches, give love a chance."
Yes Trust, love, that magical thing that makes the world go around. I think the sci/fi guys were perceiving it as something more akin to "truth and beauty." I don't care what you call it, it's a wonderful thing.
Problem is, GG, not that you'll be able to comprehend this, is that what is being sold as love is not love. Love is the noble sounding cover for a one sided legal contract.
Marriage 2.0 isn't about love, it's about resources.
"Problem is, GG, not that you'll be able to comprehend this..."
Oh please. I comprehend just fine. The woman in this story was married to a herbivore and she desired a carnivore instead. Naturally being a girl, this seems perfectly understandable to me. We are wonderfully and fearfully made and that's how our biology works. What I'm having trouble understand is why men would be surprised by this? It is the nature of women, always has been and likely always will be.
GG,
So we can expect you to follow in her footsteps if you meet a higher status man than your husband?
That's how you were made and that's how your biology works, right?
"So we can expect you to follow in her footsteps if you meet a higher status man than your husband?
That's how you were made and that's how your biology works, right?"
I really doubt I could tolerate anybody higher than my husband, so no, not going to happen. But that is precisely why I asked about believing in love, because people are not simply helpless victims of their biology.
GG,
You are so full of shit your eyes are brown.
"You are so full of shit your eyes are brown."
Actually, no, I can see something here so clearly, it puzzles me that nobody else can. Unfortunately so many of you have such an impenetrable membrane of bias and pre-conceived notions, it's nearly impossible to communicate with you.
"The woman in this story was married to a herbivore and she desired a carnivore instead. Naturally being a girl, this seems perfectly understandable to me. We are wonderfully and fearfully made and that's how our biology works. What I'm having trouble understand is why men would be surprised by this? It is the nature of women, always has been and likely always will be."
Let me explain this one more time for you, GG.
The surprise happens because women like you waste the better part of two decades of a man’s life telling him that this is NOT the nature of women and never has been. Women like you tell a man that women only want to be wives and moms and want to marry nice guys.
Men are raised in today’s society with two ideas: (1) men say what they mean and mean what they say. They are to be forthright, blunt, honest and truthful in their words as well as deeds. (2) Women are exactly like men, only with different reproductive tracts.
Therefore, men are told to believe that women are also honest, forthright and acting in good faith at all times with men.
So, the surprise comes when a man sees a woman acting incongruously with this – when he sees a woman acting in accordance with her biology. He is surprised because he has been told to expect the exact opposite.
So when he sees this and tells a trusted woman about it, she tells him “NO NO NO! NAWALT! She is an outlier, an exception. She’s stupid. You just keep on being nice nice nice and someday all the girls will see how great you are!”
Repeat around 1,000 times, until at some point, he figures out that something’s not right. Usually, another man sits him down and explains it to him; or more likely, he finds it online.
That’’s where the surprise comes from, GG.
GG, your ability to get your facts straight yet draw the wrong conclusion is remarkable.
1. You correctly note the husband was a herbivore.
2. You correctly note that the new guy is a carnivore.
3. You correctly note that as a woman this tendency to crave the carnivore makes perfect sense to you.
4. You disregard that the herbivore is the one who took a chance on love.
5. Most men are herbavores.
6. Taking a chance on love earned this man a divorce and much of his hard earned money funding her ride in the carnivore cock carousel. The only reason he isn't separated from his children is she couldn't take them out of the country, otherwise she'd keep then and use them to extract money from him.
So in the end, you are telling men to take a chance on love while admitting it makes perfect sense to ditch a herbivore dependable provider and father for a carnivore criminal.
This is one of the best examples of solipsism ever exchanged. You see "taking a chance on love" as a success because you relate to the woman who gets beta bux and alpha fux out if the deal.
If you were capable of empathizing with, youd give different advice.
"So in the end, you are telling men to take a chance on love while admitting it makes perfect sense to ditch a herbivore dependable provider and father for a carnivore criminal."
First of all, I'm not telling men what to do at all, except you know, civilization is kind of in a state of collapse and it would be quite lovely if men would get around to finding themselves before we all perish. Also, many of you seem to be suffering, which is rather unpleasant to watch.
Thanks for the explanation, de ti, I appreciate it. Honestly, I'm a bit surprised to discover that men know so little about the nature of women, but not just that, women also seem to be unbelievably clueless about men. There really is a deliberate push in society, and effort being made to distort our perceptions of each other.
Actually it's even worse than all that, because the evil bitch is taking the children thousands of miles away to be raised with a drug dealer.
There are really only three options for the father of these children.
The first is to say goodbye permanently to his children and start a new family, because these children are lost to him forever. He may as well assume they have been sold into slavery.
The second is to grab his kids and make a run for it.
The third is also illegal.
@Cataline Sergius
Do you really think that man is going to be a good little househusband? He's going to be working that bitch my friend.
Those children are in very deep shit
GG:
I'm a bit surprised to discover that men know so little about the nature of women,
You shouldn’t be. We spend a lifetime listening to women tell us lies. We spend a lifetime being told that what men say is sexism and lies.
Women are heavily invested in the lie, so they can manipulate men into all sorts of things. Manning up and marrying the sluts. Being told that what’s being sold as “marriage” is in fact true marriage. And that true marriage is a bygone relic which deserves to rot on the ash heap of history.
Love doesn’t make the world go around.
The ability to wield, use, and project force makes the world go around. Force is the basis of all relationships involving human beings.
It isn’t just brute force, either. Women understand this very well. Women use force or the implied threat of it in relationships all the time. The queen bee and her minions. The herd dynamic. A wife’s use of feminine wiles to persuade a husband into something he doesn’t want. The threatpoint. The woman’s implied “do what I want or NO SEX FOR YOU!”
All of these are examples of uses of force.
Thosee kids are almost certainly going to be better off.
In a sad and perverse way, yes, that's probably true.
Expect to read within a year or two that Jennifer Butler Mosier has been violently murdered by her new dream-thug husband.
*lies constantly about the nature of women*
*is dumbfounded by the idea that men don't understand the true nature of women*
Don't ever change, GG.
GG seems to believe that it's impossible for any woman to ever do wrong or be wrong in any scenario. If a woman wants it, then it is by definition a good thing - period.
It's a perfect illustration of sociopathy, really – the idea that one must always receive everything he/she wants, coupled with a total inability to empathize with anyone else, and a belief that one's own will must necessarily be right and good in every scenario – essentially elevating one's own id above the laws of nature or God.
Game is a mirror reflecting the observed behavior of women. What it reflects isn't pretty. But the cure is not to break the mirror, but to change what it shows.
In a sane society, this women would be condemned roundly - by other women.
GG, you will need a chiropractor when we are finished with you.
"Love doesn’t make the world go around. The ability to wield, use, and project force makes the world go around."
Now there's a bit of familiar male solipsism. You're wrong you know, because I'm not speaking of "love" in a Halmark cards kind of way, but in a much broader sense. Love is what drives men to create, innovate, go forth and conquer, lay down their lives. Love of women is only a piece of that.
de ti wrote: **Therefore, men are told to believe that women are also honest, forthright and acting in good faith at all times with men.
So, the surprise comes when a man sees a woman acting incongruously with this – when he sees a woman acting in accordance with her biology. He is surprised because he has been told to expect the exact opposite.**
Don't make me fucking laugh, de ti. Men don't 'expect' women to tell the truth, and don't care if they tell the truth, regardless of how much they pretend otherwise. I had boyfriends tell me I was the most honest and nice girl they ever met, and that they were leaving me for a woman that they knew specifically was a gold digger who was lying to them and would betray them as soon as it was convenient. Why? 95% of all men go for looks, every fucking time. Then they pretend to be surprised when the woman that they knew was a liar previously, lies to and betrays them.
Oh, but wait. The 'inner beauty always shines through'. So even though these men admitted that I was nice, honest, faithful, helpful and not interested in their money, and that the women they were leaving me for (and the men fully admitted this in advance) were not nice, liars, cheats, cruel, and gold diggers, but were better looking than me, they must have had some sort of really good inner qualities. I'm sure Vox , having an IQ of 149, and being sooo much smarter than me, will throw me the Christian charity of explaining what these wonderful inner qualities of these other women were so that I can understand the situation and reconcile myself to it, thus gaining a measure of peace in my life.
@Micahel Meir
@liberrantor
You didn't read the article. She's taking the kids with her.
'Leaving my children is not an easy thing to decide to do. But I want to get everything ready for them in America before they move, too,' she said.
'I'm doing this for our future because I want us to be a family. I need to set up a life out there for us and I'll do whatever I can to get them over with us as soon as possible.'
She added, 'I am devoted to my children but they deserve a happy mum too. This relationship will be for me but the life I build is going to be for all of us.'
Butler claims her children are just as happy about her leaving as she is, but because they haven't met their future stepdad yet, she won't be sure until they do.
'My children are excited about eventually moving over there. As kids, they won't realize about me not being around until I'm actually gone. It's going to be hard saying goodbye, but I know I'll see them again soon,” she said.
'It's fine because they know I'm going over there to find us a house and to sort out their schooling. The main thing is that they're excited to get to
"Why? 95% of all men go for looks, every fucking time."
That's because most of them are unable to feel love the same way we do, Ann, The closest they can get is to be drawn towards what they perceive as "beauty," be it attractive women, art, music, whatever. In a perfect world, women exist as mirrors, reflecting love back to men so they can see it.
You sure are bitter, Ann. I really wish you'd come over to my blog and talk to me. insanitybytes2 wordpress.
Ha ha ha
You two deserve each other. Now go play and leave us alone.
Fuckoff with the whole herbivore, carnivore horseshit, eh...Alpha, beta, gamma, delta etc already established. Go learn it
Guys go for the prettiest girl that meets all their other criteria.
Which, if you're paying attention, means the 'other criteria' is more important than looks.
But women who lack the 'other criteria' will always blame it on looks.
Jack, work on your reading comprehension. It is not ME 'blaming it on looks'. The men, by their own admission, stated that I had far more of the 'other criteria' than the women they were leaving me for. But the other women were prettier. So no, most men do not think the 'other criteria' are more important, no matter how much you pretend they do.
Oh yeah. Did I mention that after a few months with their pretty, lying cheating gold diggers, these boyfriends wanted me back? Apparently they were so stupid they didn't know what the hell they wanted or were doing, and assumed I was stupid enough to go back to someone who insulted me in such a way.
I have a new sweetie now. Someone who appreciates my being nice to him.
@ Some dude: you're correct, I apparently did not read the entire thing.
Shittily-written article, though; from the headline:
"Is leaving her three children - all younger than 10 - with their father"
You didn't read the article. She's taking the kids with her.
I'd like to hope that some judge in the UK will nip that idea in the bud (hut I'd probsbly be a fool to hope that). Otherwise, Jennifer's (what the HELL is it with women named Jennifer?) kids will be murder victims along with their mother.
Maybe it was the men you picked Ann....
Anne Morgan: "Men don't 'expect' women to tell the truth, and don't care if they tell the truth, regardless of how much they pretend otherwise."
I think they do, when it comes down to things *men consider important*. So, in no particular order
1. Is the woman you are thinking of committing to, worth committing to (equal or higher socio sexual equity).
2. Did you meet up with her because she gives off that 'slutty, I'm an easy lay' vibe?
3. Related to 2. Are the children she's produced, yours?
Brad Andrews: "Maybe it was the men you picked Ann.... "
Bulls eye!
How 'bout this scenario.' Woman A' goes for men who are above her socio sexual league.
Now when a man does this because of the different implications of a sexual relationship for a woman with a man, the woman will bomb him out straight away - unless he's a 'bad boy', then she might service him anyway.
But a man being approached by a lower socio sexual woman, in his lizard brain might think - prime directive: plant as many seed's as you have the opportunity to plant - and will happily enter a relationship with the woman and enthusiastically and frequently impregnate her. UNTIL a woman he identifies as higher up the socio sexual hierarchy wanders by and gives him the 'come on'.
Back burner for 'Woman A', who now feels cheated and used, but in fact, is experiencing the consequence of trying to bat 'out of her league'.
Anne Morgan: "The men, by their own admission, stated that I had far more of the 'other criteria' than the women they were leaving me for."
Translation. I'm gonna give this other woman of higher socio sexual ranking a go, but I've had so much fun and fux with this particular gal, that' I don't want to offend her - she is proven mistress material - so will sooth her ego with platitudes that I know she'll gobble up wholesale. If it doesn't pan out with the new woman, it's prudent to keep this plate happily spinning.
Probably sensible to stop selecting players.
You guys are completely FOS. Men repeatedly chose women who are going to be bad for them, having almost no ability to discern inner beauty what so ever. If there's a gold digger within 50 miles, I guarantee you she'll have dozens of men all competing for the chance to get screwed over by her. The manosphere is full of men bemoaning the alleged nature of women and how they got screwed over, men completely incapable of ever asking themselves why they are attracted to such women in the first place.
"Like Rev. GG preaches, give love a chance."
Yes Trust, love, that magical thing that makes the world go around. I think the sci/fi guys were perceiving it as something more akin to "truth and beauty." I don't care what you call it, it's a wonderful thing.
The problem is that "love" is a word that has different meanings for men and women.
As Rollo Tomassi says, women are not able to love, not in the way men understand love. Women love their children (sometimes) but they are unable to love a men. With the word "love", women refer to:
- The gina tingle an alpha produces. Men call this "lust". In women, it is accompanied by emotional feelings (emotional lust) and women call this "love".
- Playing the role of "The one" in the personal theater the woman has been creating in her head since she was a child. Women have dreamed that they will find "The one" and marry them. They are "in love" with "The one" since they are little girls. lf you come to their life and you play a role similar to "The one", they will tell you they love you (until you deviate from the role and other man will be cast instead). Men call this "narcissistic fantasy".
- Being useful for nesting and having children. Men call this "convenience".
Do you want love? Have a dog or pray God. God will really love you. Are you chump enough to believe women can love? You are for a rude awakening.
@Ann
95% of all men go for looks, every fucking time.
This is true. We are wired this way and it's the thing I hate most about being a man. It's difficult to find an attractive woman that is nice. Unattractive women are nice because they have no other option. I have seen women get a cosmetic surgery and start being a bitch in short time.
However, we are brutally honest about this. When a female friend asks me what women I like the most, I don't say: "I prefer old women, ugly women, fat women". But when women are asked about the men they like the most, they say: "nice guys that are sensitive and treat women well".
The 'inner beauty always shines through'.
This is a lie created by unattractive women and perpetuated by unattractive women so they can be lazy in improving their appearance. Men don't have anything to do with this. If you prefer to fool yourselves, please don't blame men.
I read Tomassi's piece on love. He's a lovely writer, his words flow like milk and honey, but he's wrong. Women can and do love deeply and sacrificially. Part of the problem is that men tend to seek their own definition of love from women, expecting women to fill them up. No human being can do that for you and certainly not women. God can and does. Rather than surrendering to the Source of all love, men tend to seek out women and then blame us for not filling their cup.
That's why I complain about the idolatry I find so often in gaming blogs and the PUA people. Game is a lovely thing, as long as you aren't using women to try and fill a need that can only be filled by God, because in the end you will always just wind up making yourself and others miserable. It's a form of goddess worship and it has tragic results.
Ann, the 'other criteria' aren't scales, they're pass-fail. She doesn't have to be the nicest or most loyal or most feminine, she just has to be nice and loyal and feminine.
Your behavior on this board doesn't strike me as the behavior of someone who is very nice or feminine. You argue incessantly. If you behaved the same way towards a husband, he'd surely be described as "henpecked."
Women can and do love deeply and sacrificially.
Yes, to children. Not to men. This is a lie that it is repeated once and again by women.
There have been reports of men risking their lives to save women (there was a recent massacre in the States). There have been reports of women risking their lives to save their children. There is no report of a woman risking her life to save a man.
So yes, this "sacrificial" love is unable to sacrifice when the sh*t his the fan.
Sorry, words are cheap. Actions speak louder than words.
Part of the problem is that men tend to seek their own definition of love from women, expecting women to fill them up. No human being can do that for you and certainly not women. God can and does.
In this, we agree. However, men are told that they are going to receive this kind of love from women, by everyone (including women). If love is defined as "what men experience for women that love", women are unable to have this kind of love for men. Nature does not work this way. Men love women and children, women love children (because this is how natural selection operates). Yes, children love mothers (but not in the sacrificial way that mothers love children). Yes, women love men (but not in the sacrificial way that men love women).
This is why men were given authority over women. So things were balanced. Women can use men's love and women's manipulation to try to manipulate men. Men could use the authority of the State and the Church to balance things. Now, it is one-sided and no woman (no matter how traditional and Christian she claims she is) wants to return to the previous situation. They want all the power.
GG, what measures "inner beauty"? How do you know that isn't a cop out for "horrid on the outside".
Remember the saying, "beauty is skin deep, but ugly goes all the way down." Most women can look at least decent, though losing weight may be the biggest challenge.
Also note that attitude plays a huge part, as Vox has noted here before. Why would feminists need a "Ban Bossy" campaign if many/most women today were not bossy?
The other thing that really grates me with the bint in the article, is that sit's not like she left the bloke for the thug on a whim, meeting at random and it being "love" at first sight at his "Alpha" vibes etc.
She actually went SPECIFICALLY seeking a felon! To actually sit and think "I'm going to look for a criminal to date today" is boggling.
Chent: Yes, to children. Not to men. This is a lie that it is repeated once and again by women.
This is a good point. It is true I almost unthinkingly behave sacrificially for my child, but have to consciously choose to put my husband's needs before mine. I've learned to do so but it has been a long and steep learning curve. I'm grateful he has put up with me.
I wonder how intentionally this "lie" is repeated. I'm not sure it's so much a lie repeated as a concept not well communicated. "Love" clearly means something different to a man than to a woman and we may each be guilty of projecting his/her own meaning to the other sex.
Also sickening is how she's using the reasoning it's "for the children," because "They deserve a happy mummy". It's not for her children at all, it's for herself. She'd probably be quite happy to move them all in behind bars with the felon too.
Hate how she rationalises that they're "happy" with it. Heck kids are generally unhappy at moving to another TOWN, to somewhere they don't know, away from their friends. As if they're going to be happy with moving to a completely different country, leaving their father, and moving in with a convicted fucking criminal, they'll be scared as shit!
What this bitch is doing should be criminal in itself. They should leave the kids with the father, and put her behind bars. Maybe with her criminal romantic she actively sought out, so they can live their little happy life there.
It is funny how GG and Anne Morgan say that men have these bad experiences from women because they only go after good looking women. While that might be true in certain cases, it clearly wasn't that in my case. I consider myself somewhat of a beta as I am a short (5'7), ethnic and a Christian man. I dated someone from my own ethnicity who was same height and Christian as well. She was fat, but I dated her assuming that she was a nice person because she is a "Christian woman". I remember one of her comments about me was she found me physically unattractive probably because of my height. At least she was honest about being shallow. Regardless whether a woman is good looking or not, all women are hypergamous and as Stardusk said in his youtube video "women do not love men, they only love what men can do for them."
"It is funny how GG and Anne Morgan say that men have these bad experiences from women because they only go after good looking women"
I never said that. I said that men tend to go for the aesthetics and have a hard time seeing inner beauty. That's not something to be ashamed of at all. Men were designed to see physical beauty, so embrace and celebrate it. The only problem is, your inability to see very far beyond the physical makes you very easy to deceive.
The 'inner beauty always shines through'.
What is the nature of this "inner beauty" which drives the woman who has it to make herself have outer ugliness.
GG the woman I dated I didn't go after her based on looks but I assumed she is a good Christian woman because she claimed to be born again and was involved in ministry. She was the one who would constantly attack me based on my physical appearance and compare me to her ex taller bf's. Of course we all know Christian women are such innocent princesses *rolls eyes*. I mean even Jesus might have been between 5'3-5'5 although if the shroud of Turin is legitimate he might be between 5'11-6'2. Anyways bottom line is all women are the same at their core. There is no inner beauty when they are hypergamous as Rollo states in his blog post hypergamy doesn't care.
Men were designed to see physical beauty, so embrace and celebrate it. The only problem is, your inability to see very far beyond the physical makes you very easy to deceive.
No, this is not true. As usual, GG does not understand men (although she has made progresses lately). It's not physical beauty the thing the makes us easy to deceive. Every man knows a hot chick that is a bitch.
It is only that women are better deceivers than men. They have best skills to manipulate (they were built this way) and they have no scruples or guilt to do it (most men feel guilt when they do something wrong but women can do the worse things and be completely without guilt).
So, when you date a bitch, she behaves like the low-maintenance woman she is not. Being masterful deceivers, women can pull it off for some time. For example, one of my first girlfriend was able to hide her bitchy nature for three long years, because she was very interested in me. Suddenly, she showed me she was a bitch and I dumped her. One of my last girlfriends was able to hide her bitchy nature for one year. After that, she started being a bitch and I dumped her.
"Every man knows a hot chick that is a bitch"
No you don't. Your very definition of a bitch revolves around whether or not she would say yes or no to you, and has nothing what so ever to do with being able to see inner beauty. The fact that women are very good at deception, also doesn't dispute the fact that men are simply blind in this area.
Every man knows a hot chick that is a bitch"
No you don't.
Sorry, GG. I do. Believe me: I know more about me than you do. Yes, I have known hot chicks that are bitches.
Your very definition of a bitch revolves around whether or not she would say yes or no to you
Sorry, GG. I have never given any definition of a bitch. In addition, I have never met a man who defined a bitch that way. You keep on fantasizing about what men think so you can imagine whatever you want. You prefer your fantasies to the ugly truth.
, and has nothing what so ever to do with being able to see inner beauty.
Excuse me GG, but, no matter how many times you repeat it, there is no such thing as "inner beauty". This is an oxymoron. The beauty is external by definition. The same way, there is no such thing as "external thought" or "external feeling".
The expression "inner beauty" was invented to protect the fragile ego of unattractive women. "Honey, you are ugly but you have inner beauty". Sorry, but no. You may be kind, you may be nice, you may have a good personality. This is good but has nothing to do with beauty. You are still unattractive, honey, no matter what your best friends forever tell you. Instead of fooling yourself thinking how great catch you are and that an attractive man will want you because of your inner beauty, go to the gym. Or settle for an unattractive man.
("You" in the previous paragraph does not refer to GG, who I don't know, but to a hypothetical woman)
The fact that women are very good at deception, also doesn't dispute the fact that men are simply blind in this area.
No, we are not. Everybody can see a bitch behaving like a bitch (when she is not deceiving you). To be fair, some men still accept the bitch if she is hot enough. It is not blindness: it is a conscious decision.
Chent, not to state the obvious here, but since you claim to believe "there is no such thing as inner beauty," I'm going to have to go with the fact that inner beauty is something you simply cannot see. This validates what I have observed in many men.
"Everybody can see a bitch behaving like a bitch (when she is not deceiving you)."
Here's the piece you're missing. I can see the bitch in someone, even when she IS deceiving you. It doesn't fool me one bit. Why are men so much easier to deceive? Because they cannot "see" very far beyond the physical and their own solipsistic expectations of women. That's not an insult, it's simply how most men are.
"Everybody can see a bitch behaving like a bitch.."
No. You would not believe the things I see women do to men, the outright offensiveness, the insults, right in front of them, and many men completely miss it. Everything from passive/aggressive snipes that fly right under the radar, to flat out demeaning comments. It actually embarrasses ME, but the men, nope, it doesn't even register.
Because they cannot "see" very far beyond the physical and their own solipsistic expectations of women. That's not an insult, it's simply how most men are.
Plenty of men are not deceived, GG. They possess something called honor. Men who are married to bitchy, manipulative women are well aware of it. Most of them are in a "blue pill" stage and haven't a clue what to do about it. They dig deeper trying to be the man she claims she wants. They get nicer, more appeasing. Their honor prohibits them from complaining to others about it and their niceness prevents them from doing something about it with their wives. So while you think you're seeing an obliviousness in these men, what you're actually seeing is the common decency and honor that is so horribly lacking in women.
You are not more astute than men, GG, get over yourself.
GG's a freaking expert, SD.
GG, you women get a lot of grace and longsuffering you don't deserve. Want to know why? Children. We put up with your bitchy, stupid childlike selves for our children. We sacrifice our own needs and desire for sanity so our children can have a father and mother. Get over yourself, you're an oxygen thief.
GG,
TWO FOR ONE! Thug Hunger and "inner beauty! What a combination!
http://www.star-telegram.com/2014/07/07/5953621/20-year-old-boyfriend-arrested.html
"We put up with your bitchy, stupid childlike selves for our children. We sacrifice our own needs and desire.."
Self absorbed much? Women put up with a whole lot of stupid childlike crap from men, too. We sacrifice our bodies, our love, sometimes our lives, so we can listen to pathetic men whine and complain about how screwed they are in the biological equation and how there's no such thing as inner beauty.
If you can't see inner beauty in your own stupid self, you sure aren't going to be able to see it anyone else.
I'm so glad GG's here to tell us our massive shortcomings...
How could we survive without her telling us of the invisible bitches in our midsts?
"We sacrifice our bodies, our love, sometimes our lives, so we can listen to pathetic men whine and complain about how screwed they are in the biological equation and how there's no such thing as inner beauty."
Every argument always reduces to "You have nothing real or genuine to complain about. You men are just bitter, insecure, whiny complainers (who can't get laid)".
"You men are just bitter, insecure, whiny complainers (who can't get laid)". "
Well some of you are! Where I live that's not the case. There are awesome men fighting a bad economy, the changes in our culture, and struggling to try and make their communities a better place, in spite of it all. There is no doubt in my mind that men are amazing and worthy of women's love, but there sure seems to be doubt in some of your minds.
GG, loves to use circular reasoning regarding inner beauty. I noticed that she completely ignored my last comment regarding my ex-gf. So GG prior to meeting you husband, how many short men have you dated in your life? I'll assume your a "good loving Christian woman" and you have "inner beauty" as you love to claim about yourself.
Chent wrote: **Excuse me GG, but, no matter how many times you repeat it, there is no such thing as "inner beauty". This is an oxymoron. The beauty is external by definition. The same way, there is no such thing as "external thought" or "external feeling".**
The expression "inner beauty" was invented to protect the fragile ego of unattractive women. "Honey, you are ugly but you have inner beauty". Sorry, but no. You may be kind, you may be nice, you may have a good personality. This is good but has nothing to do with beauty. You are still unattractive, honey, no matter what your best friends forever tell you. Instead of fooling yourself thinking how great catch you are and that an attractive man will want you because of your inner beauty, go to the gym. Or settle for an unattractive man.**
That might very well be, but you really need to explain that to Vox, who apparently thinks that the fact that a woman appears ugly in a photograph is proof that she is an evil person, since, according to him 'the inner beauty always shines through', as well as to other people in his forums, who apparently think that ugly women ought to be 'locked away' or made to do 'menial labor for low wages'.
Ann,
So when do you start your new job performing menial labor for low wages?
Ah, now this is just getting silly...
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