“Fatness is genetic. Fat chicks can’t do anything about it.”I've seen far too many women in the forties, with between three and five children, who are MORE SLENDER than most of the college girls waddling about to believe that fatness is either genetic or uncontrollable.
Bullshit on stilts. See above graph. There’s no way fat crappery can increase that much in a population of hundreds of millions in the span of 25 years by genetic selection alone. The best the “fat gene” crowd can argue is that most humans are wired to put on excess weight in an environment of plentiful sugar-rich, high glycemic index carb food and sedentary lifestyles. That isn’t the same as saying fat people have fat genes rendering them immune to efforts at long-term weight loss.
What it means is that fatsos have to stop eating pastries and pasta, and start getting off their double wide asses and moving their limbs more than they do when reaching like an obese infant for a cookie on the kitchen countertop. The worst of them could begin their training by discarding the Walmart scooters for walking.
No fat gene hypothesis is needed to explain the growing army of lardbuckets and the shitty marriages they leave in their battle cruiser wakes. The answer is staring everyone in the face. The reason there are so many fat chicks in the world, and particularly in America, is because THEY CHOOSE THE PLEASURES OF FOOD AND IDLENESS OVER THE PLEASURES OF PLEASING MEN.
That’s it, fatties. You choose… poorly.
Sure, it's difficult not to eat that second helping, to turn down that midnight snack, or to resist opening a new bag of cookies. It wouldn't be called temptation if it wasn't tempting. But even if resistance isn't easy, it is possible.
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What are you talking about?
Resistance if futile.
After all, even if she does by some miracle of television (by say, being selected by lottery to appear on a dramatic reality show designed for weight loss and stardom) lose the weight, she is eventually going to die and be forgotten, just like everybody else.
Atheism, both intellectual and cultural, is the wholesale acceptance, encouragement and major cause of obesity.
Obesity is the resistance. Obesity is a woman, making a choice in an uncaring world, to be like yeast, expansively becoming materially larger and larger. The more of her, the less of the world's matter is against her, and since matter is the only thing there is, measurably more is always and eternally better.
Obesity is life lived as if it were a Maya Angelou poem in the flesh. Obesity is a right, it is the spirit of this age, and it rules the world.
Who are you to judge?
Self-denial is, like, sooooo first-century.
Besides, she's drinkin' a diet soda with her candy bar. That totally cancels it out, y'know.
/tard
and since matter is the only thing there is......
--LOL. Yeah right, since my information pattern mind couldn't ever POSSIBLY have such things like THOUGHTS roaming around in it or anything! Have you ever tried to think the act of thinking away, Anonymous?
just sayin'
(You know, Vox, I've often thought that having a "sarcastic font" would be just dany, don't you?) :-D
just dandy.....sorry.
Aw crap. Anonymous above was me, dang it. Sorry for any confusion.
Me being sarcastic, that is. Would have been way more obvious with my name on it.
Well, some people use "/sarc" to flag it.
Shouldn't have to, though.
Ha ha....okay, Daniel. That's a serious RELIEF!! I was actually hoping you were Dread Ilk incognito. Makes much more sense now.....funny!
:-)
Anecdotally, I can say that people of the U.S. are becoming more round than tall, but, don't trust the stats. Several years ago the metric for calling someone fat or obese changed dramatically. Your height, weight and body measurements used to determine body fat. Then overnight the rules were changed and only height and weight became the standard.
The incredible Hulk would be called obese because his girth is about the same as his height.
It was simple for me...don't buy garbage, then you can't eat it. Buy good food (fruits, veggies, lean meat) and eat that instead.
Aw crap. Anonymous above was me, dang it. Sorry for any confusion.Me being sarcastic, that is. Would have been way more obvious with my name on it.
I was wondering for a minute if Matthew King had shown up again...
There's no doubt that there are genetic factors. But it's a long way from that to saying you can't do anything about it. Unless you're one of the rare people born with true lipophilia (that's where your body (or usually one part of it) dysfunctionally stores fat no matter what, even at the expense of withering up other parts of your body), then you can lose weight and be fit. Bad genes just mean it'll be harder for you than it is for some people. For instance, you may have to do more than just go for a walk every morning; you may need to completely cut out the foods that everyone understood were fattening until about 1977: breads and sweets.
I've lost a lot of weight over the years -- and put most of it back on later. I know exactly how to lose it, and I know exactly what puts it back on. So I certainly won't say it's easy, but every time I eat the right things, it works like clockwork. For most people, it doesn't have to be that complicated: a reasonably low-carb, paleo-style diet will do the job.
So, let's see here now, fat women are heavily into denial of reality and blame shifting. Keggy McMuffinTop is not about to admit that it is her mouth, her own mouth, and nothing but her mouth that got her the way she is.
Garsh. Who would have expected that from any woman?
Ben Cynical
There is no fat gene, but just like the women have been lied to about feminism making them happy, they have been lied to about what causes obesity.
Roissy is exactly right about stopping the consumption of carbs. We're wired to eat during the harvest - because winter is coming. We have to use our wills to overcome our natural tendency to overconsume.
Tolstoy's Anna Karenina even has a passage about avoiding sweets and starches!
Read both books by Gary Taubes, Why we get fat, and Good calories, bad calories. They document how the GOVERNMENT IS LYING - the fatties are gorging on fructose/sucrose and GMO wheat and grains and other nutritionless starches. That makes them more hungry, tells the body to store fat, makes blood chemistry toxic, and creates a cycle of addiction.
My weight dropped over 10% in a few months by eating as much FAT as I wanted but little carbs - because fat triggers leptin, the "you're full" hormone. Carbs turn on insulin which makes you starve on the inside - storing fat instead of burning it and you are never satsified. Before I would do the heroic asceticism, would not lose much weight, have no energy, and would gain it all back in a week or two.
http://www.zoeharcombe.com/2013/01/american-dietitians-big-food-companies-conflict-of-interest/#utm_source=feed&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=feed
Eat what the food pyramid tells you, vaccinate your children, and give up your guns. Oh, and expect social security to be there for you.
http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclusives/display_exclusive.html?id=8992
http://primalcooks.blogspot.com/2012/01/first-official-weigh-in.html
Have a ready supply of meats (incl. poultry and fish), eggs, (some) cheese, Pork Rinds, flavored but unsweetened drinks (I have ultralight beer). Eat until you are satisfied. After your body switches to burning fat instead of carbs, you will be satisfied with only a few hundred calories until your fat depletes. You might even have to make sure you get vitamins and minerals and protein even if you aren't hungry.
Resist having anything sweet and starchy in your house. That is a near occasion of sin. Like having a porn magazine and promising yourself you won't look. Why have it around?
I've seen far too many women in the forties, with between three and five children, who are MORE SLENDER than most of the college girls waddling about to believe that fatness is either genetic or uncontrollable.
So have I. In fact, in the example that comes most readily to mind, I visit a blood center monthly to give plasma. The nurses and staff under the age of forty-five are almost uniformly obese. Not one of them is her proper weight, and half of them are at least fifty pounds over. The nurses and staff over the age of forty-five are, with one exception, not fat at all.
How many fatty women are just that way to punish their beta husbands into not having sex with them?
The numbers are probably staggering.
For years now, I have been making the same observation at the local mall. Where almost without exception, I would nail mom over her daughter despite the 20-25 year age gap. Junk in the trunk at 50 is understandable. At 18?! Ya gotta be kidding.
Slut shaming and now fat shaming...where's Ashley?
After your body switches to burning fat instead of carbs, you will be satisfied with only a few hundred calories until your fat depletes. You might even have to make sure you get vitamins and minerals and protein even if you aren't hungry.
I've noticed this.
I'm happy to report, since some fat shaming posts a year ago, I have gone from 39.2% body fat to 30.8% (was in the bod pod yesterday). I have lost 27 pounds. Who needs Weight Watchers when you've got AG?
A big thank you to all of the commenters and their recommendations - Paleo, weights etc.
(Stingray, day 11 today, busted through the plateau I had hit and energy through the roof!)
I can understand how people get fat. Some are fat because their parents are fat and they never learn how to lose it, or by the time they do they've had to struggle to do it. Or, they gain the fat insidiously over the years by eating too many carbs/junk and think a little jogging and weightlifting will keep off the fat like in their youth. Or, they get injured and can barely keep the weight off even with a healthy diet and eventually give up. Etc. Etc.
I once was on my way to becoming a fat guy, I was eating pizzas almost every other day, pounding Barq's rootbeer 2 liters, and consuming a daily quota of 3-5 Twix bars. I think I gained something like thirty pounds in a couple of months, and it was when I weighed myself and I was almost 200 pounds I decided I had better take my food consumption seriously. Initially I hadn't cared because I was always a skinny guy and it was great to have to mass (bulking up as I thought of it), but the health conscious part of me, oblivious to the damage bad food was causing on the inside, but astute to the fat on the outside, decided to take over and then I struggled for years to cut myself down to 180 with less bodyfat.
Years later, I'm at 175 with 13% bodyfat after I finally took control and eat mostly vegetables and lean meats, abstaining from grains and sugar (except when I cheat, and let me tell you, even one cheat day can really throw you back, I should be at 8-9% bodyfat with abs showing, but cheating too often has really drawn out my results).
Even though I'm much healthier and stronger now than I was in the past, I still have to fight tooth and nail temptations to eat pizza, candy, soda, and junk food. It really is difficult, even when the healthy meals you cook taste great. I can see how people who are already a little overweight can constantly struggle because they get home from work exhausted, due to their diet and health, and don't feel like cooking a healthy meal, which definitely takes effort, it's much easier to boil pasta and heat up a sauce, or microwave a meal, or throw some pre-made monstrosity into the oven, all of which will keep you fat and make you even fatter. It's sad, really, and I no longer look down on fat people, thinking they have no self control (some obviously don't, but also don't care), because I've seen people who are gym rats who still have layers of fat to be rid of. I think fat shaming may help some fatties to eat healthier and workout more, but I think the majority will just double-up on their mental defenses as a result of the cognitive dissonance, as a way of passive-aggressively defying the naysayers.
Something I recently discovered as a paleo modification is called "intermittent fasting". You have to be switched to fat burning first, but once there, do not eat between about 8 PM and 4 PM the next afternoon. Then eat all the good paleo foods you want in that late afternoon to evening time frame. Some people adjust the time frame a bit to fit their particular metabolism and lifestyle.
Why it works I don't know, but I've seen better results with this pattern than with eating the same amount of food spread throughout the day.
tz,
Isn't it great to be able to eat fat and meat and lose weight...w/o hunger? It's a diet I was totally against in my early years. When my cousin told me years ago that people who crave carbs aren't getting enough protein, not believing him I laughed in his face! I don't know what the trigger was in my life to start eating more protein, but when I did the weight really came off. And I stopped craving carbs! Bonus! Right? To anyone who doubts, it's possible to lose weight comfortably, it really is. Try it.
Congrats, SD. Sounds like you're making good progress.
A big thank you to all of the commenters and their recommendations - Paleo, weights etc.
I'll add another recommendation. If you find yourself hitting another plateau, one thing you might consider adding to your regimen is some interval training. Anything that's anaerobic is ideal for fat loss -- that includes weight training, but if you get tired of that and want to mix it up a bit (and your joints can take it), I recommend sprinting. Years ago when I wanted to lose a few pounds fast for a powerlifting competition, I started doing interval sprints once a week, and the weight flew off.
As for fat shaming, that's probably a necessary component for reducing the obesity rate, but it won't be sufficient. What has to happen is some form of discrimination against fat people, the same way that smokers have been discriminated against.
Ugh, Stickwick...You've told me about the interval training and I stuck with it for...um...*lowers head*...two weeks. I do need to add that back in to my weekly regimen. That and the leisurely walks you've recommended.
Vox, the obesity rate in America did not go from near-zero in 1930 to one-third of the population today because people forgot how to turn down seconds. People's metabolisms have changed because the composition of the food supply changed.
Linoleic acid, high fructose corn syrup, and dwarf wheat (which provided Americans with approximately zero calories in 1930, but the majority today) change our metabolisms (not just because of carbs, because of toxins) so that adipose cells do not release fat as easily. The increase reluctance of fat cells to release their contents causes increased eating (to make up for the quarantined energy that isn't reaching the bloodstream), not the other way around. Almost everybody gets the direction of causality wrong. Increased fat holding causes people to eat more calories than they expend, not the other way around.
My mom is in her fifties, and she's skinny. Never been fat. Dad has a little bit of a belly, but it would probably go away if he quit drinking soft drinks. I'm more obsessed with health than either of them (they don't believe me when I try to share paleo wisdom) so I've got my act together. Now I just need to marry a gal who's not fat (easy) and has a lifestyle and genetics that suggest she won't get fat in the future (harder.)
I'm sure there are genes which switch on when exposed to sugary type foods as it would help one's ancestors to survive episodes of famine. Fruits and berries often ripen during the autumn. People will binge on that because it makes them *hungrier* than other foods (just compare how satisfied you feel on a 2000 calorie meal from Mcdonald's as compared to a 300 calorie energy drink). They'll get bigger, and that weight will give more leeway for the harsher winters when further energy expenditure is required. I'm not trying to compare apples and cheeseburgers here, but it's just the principle of the matter. High energy/low nutrient concentration->hunger. Low energy/nutrient dense foods->satiety.
To me, it's just as much about quality control as self-control.
Two points:
1. What is true for the goose is also true for the gander. Men also choose the pleasures of food and idleness over the pleasures of pleasing women. I have not observed an abundance of trim fit men around these days (Let him who is with out sin...)
2. The fallen nature of man/woman is such that the effort to be in shape is not highly rewarded/appreciated by one's mate. The 'pleasure' derived therefrom then becomes an insufficient motivation to keep the weight off.
A better and more enduring motivation would be to look at your body as a gift/stewardship from God--one that you look after and take care of because of a desire to please Him.
Because you love and desire to please God (not your girlfriend/boyfriend).
I'd also add...taking vitamins/mineral supplements is a good idea too. Many of the vitamins are a natural metabolism stimulator. Many of us aren't getting enough from the excuse we call food.
I have a pretty good setup for my dinner...a steak, a vegetable, and an apple or banana as a desert. Leaves me full and satisfied.
@ Desert Cat - Wow, you are correct. This "intermittent fasting" thing really works! I've been doing it on my own for close to one year now. Just recently heard about it a few weeks ago on A.M. radio, though. I'm very happy to see that others are discovering this as well. I changed my schedule (after switching to fat burning mode)to having breakfast & lunch (plenty of fat & meat, as much as I want until satisfied)& then completely skipping dinner. Fasting from 4pm - 8am every day. The only frustrating thing about the whole process is having to go back to buy slimmer jeans every three months...lol :-)
Desert Cat and Herman the German, when you speak of fat burning mode, are you talking about ketosis? How do you know when you are in fat burning mode?
A better and more enduring motivation would be to look at your body as a gift/stewardship from God--one that you look after and take care of because of a desire to please Him.
Because you love and desire to please God (not your girlfriend/boyfriend).
Personally, this has never worked for me. I've been a Christian all of my life and had not internalized the conviction of "my body is a gift from God and I must be a good steward." - I agree with it but I chose rebellion and temptation easily. It wasn't until I obeyed God's command to be in submission to my husband that it concerned me to overcome gluttony. I committed to obeying God's command three years ago. One year ago that submission allowed me to see my sin of gluttony. The desire to have a body pleasing to my husband up to that point was not enough of a priority to me to stick to fitness and maintaining a body pleasing to him. Having ups and downs with my weight all my adult life, I can honestly say that I have never been more committed and motivated to continue weight loss and fitness than I have been this last year. In doing so to please my husband, it also pleases God and fulfills the goal of being a good steward over the body God gave me.
Hello, I need to lose some weight for medical reasons and was finding difficult to do on American Diabetic Association recommendations, and have thus been searching for alternatives. Can you please explain how to get into fat burning mode and how you know when you are in same? Will greatly appreciate any help.
@Anonymous on January 26, 2013 at 9:03 AM --
I really *hate* to say this, but you could try looking up the Atkins diet.
http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/atkinsdiet/p/atkins1.htm
http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=126717
SarahsDaughter, sorry for the delayed response. If your body is comfortably adapted to consuming very few carbs in favor of added protein and fat, then you could be said to be fat burning (versus carb burning), and could comfortably work intermittent fasting into your lifestyle. You may or may not be in ketosis depending upon how low your carb and intake is.
Anonymous, another source of a somewhat different low carb (fat burning) approach is the paleo or primal diet. Here is one source of information: Mark's Daily Apple. Another source is a book by trainer and author Robb Wolf called The Paleo Solution.
There are more resources and often some disagreement as to the details regarding the paleo or primal approach, but those two are a very good starting point.
Thanks to those who responded to my question. In diabetes class, you are told ketosis is a Bad Thing. I'll have to do some research ; thanks much for the starting point.
Also, I am typing this on a phone and don't know how to make links, but you can google it: there is a new perfume out called Cthulhu in Love. Ia
What you want to do is research the difference between ketosis and ketoacidosis. They are not the same, despite many health care practitioners conflating and sometimes outright confusing the conditions.
Ketosis in normal non-diabetic individuals is simply the state of burning ketones--which are basically fat molecule fragments--instead of carbohydrates.
Dr. Atkins' books talk about ketosis and ketoacidosis.
You might do well to find a paleo-friendly integrative medicine doc or naturopath who specializes in helping diabetics through dietary changes. There are more reputable alternatives to the alliopathic model available today than ever.
SarahsDaughter, sorry for the delayed response. If your body is comfortably adapted to consuming very few carbs in favor of added protein and fat, then you could be said to be fat burning (versus carb burning), and could comfortably work intermittent fasting into your lifestyle. You may or may not be in ketosis depending upon how low your carb and intake is.
Like I said earlier, I have noticed that I don't need much to eat. My appetite has significantly decreased. I've eaten at most 100grams of carbs/day for the last 15 days. Most of which has come from fruits or vegetables. So I'd assume I'm burning fat.
I remember doing the Atkins diet years ago and had side affects from it (metallic taste in my mouth). I have not experienced that at all these last two weeks so I wasn't sure if that is indicative of fat burning or a side affect from ketosis.
I'm struggling with old thinking that I need to remind myself to eat instead of just listening to my body. I'll go from 8AM to 3PM and think, "Oh no, I forgot to eat."
Meant to add: Thank you Desert Cat!
You're welcome.
I'll go from 8AM to 3PM and think, "Oh no, I forgot to eat."
This may not be a bad thing at all, if you then eat what you need after 3 PM to maintain your health and/or lose weight at a comfortable, safe pace. You're doing "intermittent fasting" already.
I should throw a disclaimer in here: I'm not a doctor nor do I play one on TV (I do play doctor on my own body, but that is my sovereign choice). Nothing I've said or will say should be construed as medical advice. Particularly if you are diabetic, seek competent medical advice before making dietary changes, or be willing to assume full responsibility for changes you make on your own. Your mileage may vary. Subject to prior sale. Caveat emptor. Etc.
I'll second Desert Cat. I've been doing intermittent fasting for the past 3-4 years with great results. I've lost over 60 pounds and have been steady for over a year. I could lose more, but have been balancing out eating with my family and am happy with where I'm at.
A friend told me about Fast5 and I moved from there into Mark's Daily Apple. I no longer have high blood pressure or need omeprazole for GERD.
Of course, everybody else trying to lose weight is still waddling around trying to eat 8 small portions a day and still telling me I'm crazy.
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