It’s a typical but tragic mistake: MRAs wildly overestimate women’s power, sexual or otherwise. Men, they insist, are helpless by comparison. But that claim ignores a long and unmistakable history of male domination in human history. And if there’s one undeniable truism about our species, it’s that the rules are made by the dominant group..... the pain so many men feel from broken relationships, social isolation, and the gnawing sense of personal powerlessness is not women’s fault.This is arrant nonsense of the most ignorant and pernicious sort. It is entirely dependent upon the idea that the dominant group - who admittedly are men - are making their decisions based upon what is to the benefit of their entire sex. There is absolutely no evidence that this is the case, Schwyzer simply states this as a postulate despite the fact that human history is absolutely littered with male elites making decisions that are to the direct detriment of the vast majority of their sex.
It’s the fault of a rigid code that was set up eons ago, a code that many of us continue to perpetuate. Extricating ourselves from the emotional straitjacket the code forces us to wear requires taking responsibility for our own lives and choices. It requires letting go of blame. And it requires seeing that feminism—with its remarkable claim that biological sex has nothing to with our human potential—is the best avenue for our personal and collective liberation.
Schwyzer's argument is not only groundless and historically incorrect, but biologically false. Biological sex is absolutely and directly connected to our human potential. Feminism isn't about liberation, much less equality or maximizing human potential, it is about using the force of government to legally cripple men and subordinate their services to the feminist-perceived interests of women. And finally, it is logically absurd. Women are absolutely to blame for the majority of divorces, for denying fathers custody to their children and imposing an ex-relationship tax on their former partners. It is easy to demonstrate that women are completely responsible for the pain they have caused without the need to argue over which sex is responsible for sex-biased family courts because not one single woman has ever been forced to file for divorce, custody, or alimony in the entire recorded history of Man.
Women are not passive, helpless creatures who cannot be held responsible for their own actions, they have have chosen to act, and in acting, they are 100 percent responsible for all of the pain that they have inflicted. It's not the fault of some rigid, unarticulated male code that magically prevents a man from staying married when his wife decides she isn't happy anymore or removes his children from him. The demonstrable fact is that feminism is pure and unadulterated evil and is one of the primary causes, if not the primary cause, of the decline of Western civilization. Feminism is the single most poisonous ideology of the 19th and 20th centuries and has amassed a body count that dwarfs that of Communism and Socialism combined. As I have previously written, calling a feminist a feminazi is an insult to the German National Socialist Workers Party.
And Game is the antidote to the ideological poison that is feminism. That is why it terrifies feminists. That is why intelligent women who value civilization instinctively support it. Feminism requires reducing men to gammas and omegas who fear to question the chains of the Mother State. In most cases, gammatude and omegadom are not natural states, they are behavioral evidence of crimes that have been committed against young boys with the intention of psycho-sexually crippling them in adulthood.
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Those are some strong words. I agree with 'em.
A remarkably clear grasp. This blog is better than ice cream:)
"The demonstrable fact is that feminism is pure and unadulterated evil"
I would love to see that demonstrated. Oh wait, I have.
Awesome.
and I patiently await the first angry feminist response or white night defense of women.
----freestater
"...not one single woman has ever been forced to file for divorce, custody, or alimony in the entire recorded history of Man."
Not even one?
My father had multiple homosexual encounters with strange men he picked up in parks. He made it clear after the few sessions of counseling he agreed to that he would not be returning to a heterosexual relationship. He also did not file for divorce.
I suppose you might think she should have stayed legally married to the husband that abandoned her, but frankly I'm glad she got the divorce and remarried my step-father.
-Arielle
That should be 'married' not 'remarried' my step-father.
-Arielle
Nice snowflake, Arielle, well done. No, not even one. Unless, of course, you can explain how her husband's decision to have sex with strange men somehow forced your mother to get a divorce? Did those homosexual penises magically transform into pistols pointed at her head? Did bands of raging homosexuals threaten to harm her if she did not file the paperwork freeing their toyboy? She chose to get divorced, did she not?
More to the point, it seems rather unlikely that the divorce caused your father much pain given that he openly chose a life of park-bench pick-ups over married life. Now, I don't think your mother should have stayed married to him, but I also don't think that your example has anything to do with the topic at hand.
"..with its remarkable claim that biological sex has nothing to with our human potential.."
This man enjoys golden showers. Male, female, it doesn't matter. He's extra happy if it comes from the Black Bull his slut wife invites over every Friday.
I used to ignore most of the 'Game' posts, but have found them interesting lately. Has anybody thought about trying to systematize this thing like Meyers-Briggs? You know, like making each personality like a sort of quantum vector with so many components (INTP, ESFJ, etc)?
Here's my attempt:
I think there should be something like three categories, like so:
Confidence:
D = (D)ominant
C = (C)onfident
I = (I)insecure
Social:
P = Ade(P)t
W = A(W)kward
Game:
G = I(G)norant/Natural
T = (T)rained
so your canonical categories would be something like:
alpha = DP
beta = CP
delta = IP
sigma = DW
gamma = CW
omega = IW
(obviously that list doesn't exactly correspond to the hierarchy, but you get the idea...)
and you could fine tune things with the last letter, i.e. natural vs synthetic alpha = DPG vs. DPT
Maybe that's not the best articulation, but I think it helps people see the distinction between things like gamma, delta, and sigma. Or maybe I haven't captured it quite right and somebody else could come up with something better.
My mistake. I did not realize you meant that sentence so literally. I thought you were saying no woman has ever found herself in circumstances where her only good option was filing for divorce.
-Arielle
and you could fine tune things with the last letter, i.e. natural vs synthetic alpha = DPG vs. DPT
that's not a fine enough differentiation.
i think of the Alpha distinctions as:
Intrinsic - naturally highly skilled at Kino and AMOG role playing. circumstances of birth, money and family irrelevant to his abilities with women
Extrinsic - socially 'Alpha' only because of wealth/fame/power/family. Extrinsic Alpha may overlay almost any other 'natural' category including Omega. think of Charlie Sheen here. Intrinsic Alphas do NOT steal their father's credit card so they can lose their virginity to a prostitute.
Synthetic - the successfully implemented Game Boy
I thought you were saying no woman has ever found herself in circumstances where her only good option was filing for divorce.
No, of course not. If a man screws up his marriage, then obviously his wife can't be blamed for any pain that he subsequently experiences from his mistakes. But divorces don't just magically happen, they are the result of an intentional action. Sometimes that action is justified, but usually it isn't.
that's not a fine enough differentiation.
Well, ok, I'm not sure about all that, but you see my drift.
There are threads of similarity and 'dualisms' running through the hierarchy that imply something more complex than a simple hierarchy. In general, there seem to be sorts of dipoles and maybe tripoles, like the intro/extrovert, thinking/feeling, judging/perceiving, sensing/intuitive pairs in the MBTI model.
It seems to me that the alpha, beta monikers are like the INTP personality types that are being generated by a fairly systematic combinatorial system.
Don't know if I've captured it perfectly, (I probably haven't) but seems to me there might be something nifty behind all that.
I think you should put cocomment on here too, Vox.
Quick Game/MBTI Meld:
Natural Alpha Tendency:
ESTJ, "Overseer" - Andrew Jackson, Billy Graham, John Rockefeller.
ENTJ, "Chief" - David Letterman, Rahm Emanuel, Steve Jobs.
ENFJ, "Mentor" - Sean Connery, Peyton Manning, Barack Obama.
Second Tier:
INTJ, "Strategist"; William F. Buckley, Donald Rumsfeld, Arnold Schwarzennegger.
ESTP, "Persuader"; Ernest Hemingway, Jack Nicholson, Bruce Willis.
ENTP, "Originator"; George Carlin, Teddy Roosevelt, Rodney Dangerfield.
Social Tier:
ESFP, "Entertainer"; Woody Harrelson, Bob Hope, Steve Irwin.
ENFP, "Advocate"; Will Smith, Robert Downey Jr., Robin Williams.
ESFJ, "Supporter"; Bill Clinton, Steve Spurrier, Terry Bradshaw.
Low Tier: Else.
Alpha Prototype would be ESTJ. (E)xtroversion for its ability to influence widely. (S)ensing for its commonality. (T)hinking for its selfishness. (J)udging for its certainty.
Zeta Prototype would be INFP. (I)ntroversion for its closedness, i(n)tuition for its oddness, (F)eeling for its empathy, (P)erceiving for its uncertainty.
Those with Alpha-traits should play to their natural tendencies, or emphasize the traits that are alphaish.
Those with Zeta-traits can try to make lemonade by: (I), being mysterious and aloof; (N) focusing on the smaller pool of N females; (F) reading and manipulating emotionality; (P) remaining fun and hard-to-tie-down.
FWIW:
Household Income by type: ENTJ:($84,434), ESTJ, ESFJ, INTJ, ENFJ, ISTJ, ESTP, ISTP, ENFP, INTP, INFJ, ISFP, ISFJ, ESFP, ENTP, INFP:($61,565).
Percent Married by type: ESFJ:(53%), ISTJ, ENTJ, ESTJ, ISFJ, INTJ, ISTP, ENFJ, ISFP, INFJ, ENTP, ENFP, INTP, ESFP, ESTP, INFP:(30%)
Re: "Game is the antidote to the ideological poison that is feminism."
This statement is in want of evidence. So far you've only discussed why Feminism is bad.
Also, I'd like to see your definition of Feminism.
Something like: Feminism is the belief that . . .
I've heard of one definition of feminism: The believe that Men and Women should get equal pay for equal work. I'm guessing you disagree with this definition.
Ian,
I have taken the MBTI tests several times and always come up with ESTJ. In the book "Please Understand Me", some of the thoughts that ESTJ's are purported to have, I actually have. I am confident that MBTI has been accurate in describing me.
I am very confident that I can better place myself in the hierarchy based on your post as an Alpha. My income also falls in to the range you list. I work in outside technical sales in the oil industry, a job I am perfectly suited for.
My dad was an alpha to the max. Anyone who knows him or has heard of him will agree. I was reminded of that by a post on Roissy about Charlie Sheen only acquiescing to his dad, because and alpha will only accept his dad as being a bigger alpha than he is. I feel the exact same way.
Thanks for the help.
The believe that Men and Women should get equal pay for equal work.
A Grand Slam tennis tournament is coming up (the French). Until recently, the women get a smaller prize money than the men. But now they get equal prize money with the men even if they play fewer sets (3 to the men's 5 sets) and had to spend more hours training for 5 sets, and have fewer people watching their matches than the men. When they were receiving less, that was equal pay for equal work. When they started to receive the same prize money, that's feminism.
Defining something by its actions and results seems more reasonable, though.
would love to see equal pay for equal work. So all those amounts of time women spend slacking off at work doing nothing but gossiping and creating irrelevant drama would be rewarded with.....less pay.
Thank you very much. Oh, and when they are unable to carry as much stuff, always ride the elevator, take more time off from work for things like doctor appointments and stuff like that, less pay for then, too. Oh, and all the unpaid overtime that I see the men doing much more than the women, the men can get paid more for that too.
And the list goes on.
Jego: Easy fix for that and all sports at all levels.
Make the women play the men straight up.
And make all divisions based on weight or height. Much more fair and objective than mere age.
That author is a seriously messed up individual. I was unable to thoroughly read it lest I lose some testosterone just be association. Really sad gamma type.
@JCclimber
I looked him up. He teaches gay crap at a community college has been divorced 3 times and experimented with chickenhawks when he was still in high school.
Fruits, etc.
Learn Game. Because Feminism must die.
Abiding in Proverbs 31 is also an antidote for feminism. Should females spend a fraction of their time attempting to become a woman as they do in failing to become a man, their provision would be substantial and "equal pay" would be laughable.
Sorry for the misplaced parenthesis in my comment above. That should have read: "But now they get equal prize money with the men even if they play fewer sets (3 to the men's 5 sets and had to spend more hours training for 5 sets), and have fewer people watching their matches than the men."
You have a number of different objections to feminism that need to be addressed differently. I also endorse Jamsco's request that you define "feminism" according to how you perceive it.
It's one thing to object to the perceived injustice of family courts, and another to object to abortion and reproductive rights. One is a point of law and the other is entangled with you religious beliefs. Likewise, objecting to women's suffrage reflects your political opinion that women have demanded a developed welfare state, while you think men would have established a more independent society. Then we have your evident objection to anything that bolsters female assertiveness because your religion specifies a normative submissive role for women. So, you see, you're all over the board. As a synthesized world view it's no surprise at all that you disfavor feminism, but your reasons are so discursive an unfocused that it's hard to take them seriously as a cohesive whole. Many of them fall solidly under the category of personal opinion or preference, and many are religious doctrine that you apparently favor. It would be interesting for you to go through your multifarious reasons, dropping any that are opinion, preference, or religious, and see what's left over. Not that there won't be any, but it may be informative.
Don't know if I've captured it perfectly, (I probably haven't) but seems to me there might be something nifty behind all that.
which is my point. i didn't mean for my three personal gradations to be seen as the be all, end all of Vox's "Alpha". nor could i, it being Vox's system after all. i haven't the standing to make unilateral changes to it.
it's just one of the areas which i consider to still be quite weak.
another area that i think is lacking is that Vox has stated repeatedly that the reaction of women to the man in question is the absolute judgment of his categorization.
in a SOCIO-sexual system.
the problem being that men and women often respond quite differently to the same stimuli. and often judge each other by different hierarchies of attributes.
the Extrinsic Alpha is typically a male who is respected ( fame / wealth / accomplishment / etc ) by his male peers AND who also chooses to use that respect in the sexual arena. he can have pretty much any woman he desires but his lack of native Kino and Hamster Wrangling will foil any long term relationships that he might establish.
i suspect that Vox's system could greatly expand it's utility if a coherent intra-Masculine hierarchy were developed.
I think you should put cocomment on here too, Vox.
you die. you die and go to hell.
I also endorse Jamsco's request that you define "feminism" according to how you perceive it.
this would be useful. it almost might belong in a FAQ.
It's one thing to object to the perceived injustice of family courts, and another to object to abortion and reproductive rights. One is a point of law and the other is entangled with you religious beliefs.
it will be quite amusing to watch you attempt to 'prove' that abortion and reproductive 'rights' are NOT points of law.
philosophical ( that is, not legal ) question:
what 'rights' of reproduction does a man have?
I think you should put cocomment on here too, Vox.
you die. you die and go to hell.
Yes, You die and go to hell!!
We can spend a fruitless back and forth, or you can attempt to interpolate the argument and understand the greater point, which is that these reasons against feminism are so disparate that it's hard to see any theory behind them. This makes them seem more like opinion or world view than an actually reasoned argument. Again, I'm not saying there isn't an argument buried in there somewhere, but it may require some excavation, some deconstruction and categorization to make heads or tails of it. These are moral reasons, these are political reasons, these are reasons from religious perspective, these are my own personal preference, these are my opinions, etc.
From there it will be easier to see just how valid these reasons are. For instance, is it rational to think feminism represents a global conspiracy to enslave men because family court appears to favor mothers? Is it reasonable to come down against feminism (even call it "evil") just because you believe the Christian doctrine of male dominance and female submissiveness? Or because you take an undemocratic stance against a welfare state?
I'm not going to go back and forth with you at all here, Dodo. I don't mind your endless requests for definitions and left-liberal boilerplate at VP, as it is a political blog. This is a Game blog. Every little jot and tittle are not going to be debated here.
If you think feminism is dandy, fine. In that case, you don't belong here because it's not up for discussion. That sort of debate is what VP is for.
Well fine then. I was just following what I thought was your topic. When you say something "is evil" it seems appropriate to discuss it. But whatever. Maybe you can bracket the parts of your posts that are not "up for discussion" with something like [nodiscuss] and then [/nodiscuss]
[/sarcasm]
"Feminism [. . .] is about using the force of government to legally cripple men and subordinate their services to the feminist-perceived interests of women." Yeah, once they started voting it was all over.
Having read the quoted article I found Schwyzer's central theme to be relevant to this blog: a narrative of helplessness - as indicated by "It is easy to demonstrate that women are completely responsible for the pain they have caused without the need to argue over which sex is responsible for sex-biased family courts because not one single woman has ever been forced to file for divorce, custody, or alimony in the entire recorded history of Man." Which leaves out the fact that men aren't forced into marriage either. See: Narrative of Helplessness.
Dodo.. Imagine going to AR15.com... to the forums where we discuss say.. accurizing out rifles... and demanding an explanation of why we're pro gun.
We'll have that discussion with you... but this is not the place for it. This is where we talk about accurizing rifles.
We do very much appreciate your admission that you simply do not understand the arguments being made though. Its just amusing that you conclude that your inability to understand evidences your higher intellect.
Dodo, if I may (as it is on topic), I suggest you cruise on over to TakenInHand.com for a glimpse inside what a submissive woman relationship can do for both the man and the woman. You seem to be sufficiently inquisitive and open minded that this may prove to be enlightening, at least as a way to see inside something utterly foreign to you.
Be sure to click the 'taken in hand tour' link at the bottom of the introductory post, for a good cross section of information without having to wade through hundreds of posts.
No argument regarding the dynamics of feminism and its deleterious impact on society. But I believe the dysfunctional decadent patriarchal model is a precursor to it. It is the misuse of patriarchy that fuels the rebellion which is feminism.
Game in and of itself is not the antidote unless masculinity is founded on the discovery of true identity through proximity to God.
A proverbial example would be something like this. In a large auditorium (existence) there is set a candle (Yeshua Mashiach). The nearer one approaches this source of light the more defined is their image. We become who we are meant to be by the power of God through His Son.
The simple assertion that defining the alpha model and emulating it is a solution to the global discord resultant from feminism belies the influence of man's inherent corruption (the precipitant of dysfunction in the first place). After all it is God who delivers humanity over to a reprobate mind. You gonna buck Him? Otherwise Game is merely a psychological exercise with little strength to keep it real.
"And Game is the antidote to the ideological poison that is feminism. That is why it terrifies feminists. That is why intelligent women who value civilization instinctively support it."
lolwut
Fucking sluts while contributing nothing useful to society is not going to save civilization. Get real.
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